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Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:53 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 24 February 2013 22:35, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
>
> As I remember, my experience with it has been with things I have trouble
> emptying from the Trash, and it removes them without asking for
> confirmation, and quickly.
>
> Now that I actually *read* about it, you appear to be correct.
>
> On the other hand, I'm comfortable with the command line, also....
>
I suspect you are thinking of *force* Empty Trash (Option key), which won't
be any quicker in this case.
Otto
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>
> As I remember, my experience with it has been with things I have trouble
> emptying from the Trash, and it removes them without asking for
> confirmation, and quickly.
>
> Now that I actually *read* about it, you appear to be correct.
>
> On the other hand, I'm comfortable with the command line, also....
>
I suspect you are thinking of *force* Empty Trash (Option key), which won't
be any quicker in this case.
Otto
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:16 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Please wait until someone can reply with a safe answer. It might be me, but
it's late here and I don't want to rush this.
The Unix rm command can be *deadly* when used with the recursive option and
lack of experience!
Otto
On 25 February 2013 00:43, nosteele noearthspam@gmail.com > wrote:
> Well, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to research this and I
> cannot determine if there is a problem because there are Time Machine
> Backups in my Trash. As I said, I am not aware of ever deleting backups
> by using Finder and dragging backups to Trash. I am pretty sure I have
> always entered Time Machine and deleted the backups from within Time
> Machine but hey. I could be wrong.
> Is it true as Ed_Reiff suggested that there is something wrong?
> I have stated that I have over 130,000 files when trying to delete
> Trash. I have used the wrong term, I actually have over 250,000 items,
> not files. So, I have seen various commands for deleting Trash. I am a
> bit confused by what command I use because these backup folders show
> /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/.Trashes/502.
> Are these Time Machine backups in an external HD Trash folder? Or on
> they on my computer HD? Will they be deleted by using " rm -rf
> ~/.Trash/*" ?
>
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it's late here and I don't want to rush this.
The Unix rm command can be *deadly* when used with the recursive option and
lack of experience!
Otto
On 25 February 2013 00:43, nosteele noearthspam@
> Well, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to research this and I
> cannot determine if there is a problem because there are Time Machine
> Backups in my Trash. As I said, I am not aware of ever deleting backups
> by using Finder and dragging backups to Trash. I am pretty sure I have
> always entered Time Machine and deleted the backups from within Time
> Machine but hey. I could be wrong.
> Is it true as Ed_Reiff suggested that there is something wrong?
> I have stated that I have over 130,000 files when trying to delete
> Trash. I have used the wrong term, I actually have over 250,000 items,
> not files. So, I have seen various commands for deleting Trash. I am a
> bit confused by what command I use because these backup folders show
> /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/.Trashes/
> Are these Time Machine backups in an external HD Trash folder? Or on
> they on my computer HD? Will they be deleted by using " rm -rf
> ~/.Trash/*" ?
>
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:25 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Norma Steele" nosteele
Thank you Otto, I will wait. I really do appreciate that you realize that I
do not know what I am doing.
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Otto Nikolaus otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com
> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Please wait until someone can reply with a safe answer. It might be me, but
> it's late here and I don't want to rush this.
>
> The Unix rm command can be *deadly* when used with the recursive option and
> lack of experience!
>
> Otto
>
>
> On 25 February 2013 00:43, nosteele noearthspam@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Well, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to research this and I
> > cannot determine if there is a problem because there are Time Machine
> > Backups in my Trash. As I said, I am not aware of ever deleting backups
> > by using Finder and dragging backups to Trash. I am pretty sure I have
> > always entered Time Machine and deleted the backups from within Time
> > Machine but hey. I could be wrong.
> > Is it true as Ed_Reiff suggested that there is something wrong?
> > I have stated that I have over 130,000 files when trying to delete
> > Trash. I have used the wrong term, I actually have over 250,000 items,
> > not files. So, I have seen various commands for deleting Trash. I am a
> > bit confused by what command I use because these backup folders show
> > /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/.Trashes/502.
> > Are these Time Machine backups in an external HD Trash folder? Or on
> > they on my computer HD? Will they be deleted by using " rm -rf
> > ~/.Trash/*" ?
> >
>
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>
>
>
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do not know what I am doing.
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Otto Nikolaus otto.nikolaus@
> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Please wait until someone can reply with a safe answer. It might be me, but
> it's late here and I don't want to rush this.
>
> The Unix rm command can be *deadly* when used with the recursive option and
> lack of experience!
>
> Otto
>
>
> On 25 February 2013 00:43, nosteele noearthspam@
>
> > Well, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to research this and I
> > cannot determine if there is a problem because there are Time Machine
> > Backups in my Trash. As I said, I am not aware of ever deleting backups
> > by using Finder and dragging backups to Trash. I am pretty sure I have
> > always entered Time Machine and deleted the backups from within Time
> > Machine but hey. I could be wrong.
> > Is it true as Ed_Reiff suggested that there is something wrong?
> > I have stated that I have over 130,000 files when trying to delete
> > Trash. I have used the wrong term, I actually have over 250,000 items,
> > not files. So, I have seen various commands for deleting Trash. I am a
> > bit confused by what command I use because these backup folders show
> > /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/.Trashes/
> > Are these Time Machine backups in an external HD Trash folder? Or on
> > they on my computer HD? Will they be deleted by using " rm -rf
> > ~/.Trash/*" ?
> >
>
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>
>
>
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:33 PM, nosteele wrote:
> Barry, thanks, it came over just fine in your reply.
>
> Problem is that I never use Terminal so once I entered man rm and the different syntax appeared I had no clue how to proceed. (hell, i had to look up what syntax meant)
>
> Can someone give me a bit more assistance on what I do to delete these Trash files once I am in Terminal?
> ___
>
From the man (i.e. manual) file:
NAME
rm, unlink -- remove directory entries
SYNOPSIS
rm [-dfiPRrvW] file ...
unlink file
DESCRIPTION
The rm utility attempts to remove the non-directory type files specified
on the command line. If the permissions of the file do not permit writ-
ing, and the standard input device is a terminal, the user is prompted
(on the standard error output) for confirmation.
The options are as follows:
-d Attempt to remove directories as well as other types of
files.
-f Attempt to remove the files without prompting for confirma-
tion, regardless of the file's permissions. If the file does
not exist, do not display a diagnostic message or modify the
Assuming there is a hierarchy involved what you want to do is type rm -d and then a space. Note the space before the f. Then drag whatever files you want to delete into the window and hit return. That should work.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:06 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Patsy Price wrote:
> Ideas?
I recommend that you purchase this incredible mouse as a replacement.
Logitech M310
$15.50
http://is.gd/
It is just about perfect. It is cordless, but it lasts for a year on only one AA battery. It feels great in the hand, and it tracks (optically) beautifully. The receiver is tiny and won't clutter up your desktop. At the price you can't beat it.
____________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
____________
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:45 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Andrew Buc" andrewbuc
On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> I recommend that you purchase this incredible mouse as a replacement.
>
> Logitech M310
Two questions:
1) Does it have a tilt scroll wheel? My recently acquired Logitech
M525 does. Feels great in the hand, tracks beautifully, just like you
say the M310 does.
2) How easy is it to replace the battery? When I got the M525 (from
an online merchant), I was really pleased to see that a good-sized
piece of the top of the mouse detaches, and the 2 AA batteries are
right there, easy to replace. This was great because on the Microsoft
5000 mouse it replaced, the batteries went in and out through a
rectangular hatch that was a bit shorter than the length of the
batteries. Getting the first battery in wasn't too bad (I angled it
at bit); getting the second one in was a pain. How does the M310
compare in this regard? I ask because I may be in the market for a
mouse for another computer of mine.
> I recommend that you purchase this incredible mouse as a replacement.
>
> Logitech M310
Two questions:
1) Does it have a tilt scroll wheel? My recently acquired Logitech
M525 does. Feels great in the hand, tracks beautifully, just like you
say the M310 does.
2) How easy is it to replace the battery? When I got the M525 (from
an online merchant), I was really pleased to see that a good-sized
piece of the top of the mouse detaches, and the 2 AA batteries are
right there, easy to replace. This was great because on the Microsoft
5000 mouse it replaced, the batteries went in and out through a
rectangular hatch that was a bit shorter than the length of the
batteries. Getting the first battery in wasn't too bad (I angled it
at bit); getting the second one in was a pain. How does the M310
compare in this regard? I ask because I may be in the market for a
mouse for another computer of mine.
Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:59 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"keith_w" keith9600
Yes. Go to apple menu / System Preferences / Mouse.
Check the battery level.
I suspect it might be really low.
You DO keep a lot of AA batteries around the house, don't you?
I've been better at turning my mouse switch off overnight, but it's
batteries are amazingly short lived.
keith whaley
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Patsy Price beyondwords@shaw.ca > wrote:
> **
>
>
> My Microsoft optical USB mouse, which has served me well, has quit
> working several times today. I notice that the light is off, so
> unplug the mouse from my keyboard and plug it back in and all is well
> for an hour or so. Then it happens again.
>
> My keyboard continues to work fine.
>
> Nothing has changed recently. (Except for the addition of 3
> rambunctious cats to our household in the summer. They have knocked
> connections loose a few times, but they haven't been near my computer
> today, and nothing seemed loose when I checked.)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Patsy
>
>
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Check the battery level.
I suspect it might be really low.
You DO keep a lot of AA batteries around the house, don't you?
I've been better at turning my mouse switch off overnight, but it's
batteries are amazingly short lived.
keith whaley
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Patsy Price beyondwords@
> **
>
>
> My Microsoft optical USB mouse, which has served me well, has quit
> working several times today. I notice that the light is off, so
> unplug the mouse from my keyboard and plug it back in and all is well
> for an hour or so. Then it happens again.
>
> My keyboard continues to work fine.
>
> Nothing has changed recently. (Except for the addition of 3
> rambunctious cats to our household in the summer. They have knocked
> connections loose a few times, but they haven't been near my computer
> today, and nothing seemed loose when I checked.)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Patsy
>
>
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:33 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Andrew Buc wrote:
> > Logitech M310
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1) Does it have a tilt scroll wheel? My recently acquired Logitech
> M525 does. Feels great in the hand, tracks beautifully, just like you
> say the M310 does.
No, just the standard scroll-wheel.
>
> 2) How easy is it to replace the battery?
Since it was dead easy to install the first battery, I'm assuming that it will be just as easy to replace it.
____________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
____________
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Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:28 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Buy some low self-discharge rechargeables like the Sanyo Eneloop and you
will hugely reduce your battery costs!
Otto
On 25 February 2013 01:59, keith_w keith_w@dslextreme.com > wrote:
> Yes. Go to apple menu / System Preferences / Mouse.
> Check the battery level.
> I suspect it might be really low.
>
> You DO keep a lot of AA batteries around the house, don't you?
>
> I've been better at turning my mouse switch off overnight, but it's
> batteries are amazingly short lived.
>
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will hugely reduce your battery costs!
Otto
On 25 February 2013 01:59, keith_w keith_w@dslextreme.
> Yes. Go to apple menu / System Preferences / Mouse.
> Check the battery level.
> I suspect it might be really low.
>
> You DO keep a lot of AA batteries around the house, don't you?
>
> I've been better at turning my mouse switch off overnight, but it's
> batteries are amazingly short lived.
>
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:07 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I can only say that no one should rely on just one backup system/volume.
Do you really have nothing more recent? Your TM backups were wiped last
year and iCal has been missing those entries all the time since then?
Otto
On 24 February 2013 23:05, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
> Otto and Jim,
>
> I am very happy to know that you can import over an existing calendar
> without deleting its data. That makes all the difference. But in my case,
> yes, my Time Machine backup doesn't go back far enough to recover data from
> before my calendar lost ITS data. My Time Machine had a nervous breakdown
> late last year and I had to start it over from scratch. Oh, well.
>
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Do you really have nothing more recent? Your TM backups were wiped last
year and iCal has been missing those entries all the time since then?
Otto
On 24 February 2013 23:05, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.
> Otto and Jim,
>
> I am very happy to know that you can import over an existing calendar
> without deleting its data. That makes all the difference. But in my case,
> yes, my Time Machine backup doesn't go back far enough to recover data from
> before my calendar lost ITS data. My Time Machine had a nervous breakdown
> late last year and I had to start it over from scratch. Oh, well.
>
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:10 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 25 February 2013 00:14, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
>
> My earliest entry is in November, 2000.
>
> In the past, I did have to do some archiving/restoring, but have been
> stable for a while.
>
Yes, but *something* changed Daly's and my setting without our knowledge. I
was fortunate in that I have backups that cover just about anything, but
not everyone has that.
Otto
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>
> My earliest entry is in November, 2000.
>
> In the past, I did have to do some archiving/restoring
> stable for a while.
>
Yes, but *something* changed Daly's and my setting without our knowledge. I
was fortunate in that I have backups that cover just about anything, but
not everyone has that.
Otto
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:17 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"pat412255" pat412255
I turned off Java several months ago & have never had a problem running speedtest.net nor Google.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Eric" wrote:
>
> There seemed to me to be quite a few sites that require it, let alone enhance a site. If you want to do a ping test or speed test of your internet you'll need it. (pingtest.net & speedtest.net) When I turned it off once a year or so ago after reading of the risk etc of using it, I found that even Google's page didn't work right.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> There seemed to me to be quite a few sites that require it, let alone enhance a site. If you want to do a ping test or speed test of your internet you'll need it. (pingtest.net & speedtest.net) When I turned it off once a year or so ago after reading of the risk etc of using it, I found that even Google's page didn't work right.
Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:22 am (PST) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Timely and simple article explaining the current state and including instructions for removing both Apple and third party Java versions.
http://www.macworld.com/article/2028900/how-to-disable-java-on-your-mac.html#tk.nl_mwbest
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Hugh Crymble wrote:
> I received updates from Apple today to update Java SE 6 to 1.6.0_41
>
> and
>
> from Oracle to update to Java 7 Update 15.
>
> Does anyone know which I should be using for good security on a Mac or is there no difference?
>
> Thanks
>
> hugh
>
>
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http://www.macworld
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Hugh Crymble wrote:
> I received updates from Apple today to update Java SE 6 to 1.6.0_41
>
> and
>
> from Oracle to update to Java 7 Update 15.
>
> Does anyone know which I should be using for good security on a Mac or is there no difference?
>
> Thanks
>
> hugh
>
>
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:26 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Carol Corley" floridabouvs
I used Zoom Browser, which I think is related to Canon, and Photoshop. I don't like either program, as well as iPhoto.
Carol
You can simply connect the Book (I assume that's a Western Digital MyBook)
to the Mac and copy the pictures over using Finder. Finder is the Mac
equivalent of Windows Explorer. Just drag them to the Desktop to start
with.
You can then decide if you want them in iPhoto.
Which photo app, if any, did you use in Windows?
Otto
Sent from my iPad Mini
Carol
You can simply connect the Book (I assume that's a Western Digital MyBook)
to the Mac and copy the pictures over using Finder. Finder is the Mac
equivalent of Windows Explorer. Just drag them to the Desktop to start
with.
You can then decide if you want them in iPhoto.
Which photo app, if any, did you use in Windows?
Otto
Sent from my iPad Mini
Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:25 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
So, assuming you know where the photo folder is, you can simply drag it
from the external to the Mac.
I know it's too late now, but you should have tried Picasa on the PC. ;)
Otto
On 25 February 2013 01:26, Carol Corley floridabouvs@gmail.com > wrote:
> I used Zoom Browser, which I think is related to Canon, and Photoshop. I
> don't like either program, as well as iPhoto.
>
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from the external to the Mac.
I know it's too late now, but you should have tried Picasa on the PC. ;)
Otto
On 25 February 2013 01:26, Carol Corley floridabouvs@
> I used Zoom Browser, which I think is related to Canon, and Photoshop. I
> don't like either program, as well as iPhoto.
>
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