2/24/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9394

15 New Messages

Digest #9394
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Re: Another iMac mail question - can't delete by "James Robertson" jamesrob328i
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Re: iCal losing data by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: iCal losing data by "George Barker" four46
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Re: iCal losing data by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: iCal losing data by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: iCal losing data by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: iCal losing data by "Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
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Re: iCal losing data by "James Robertson" jamesrob328i
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Re: Virus Protection by "Nick Andriash" andriash2005
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Re: Virus Protection by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Re: iMac security settings question by "James Robertson" jamesrob328i
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Re: Java confusion by "James Robertson" jamesrob328i

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Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:44 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Carol Corley" floridabouvs

Thanks, will do. The funny thing is I have 4 Yahoo accounts and this problem only exists with one of them. If I can't figure it out from this, I'll call Apple support, or take another of the Apple iMac classes, which are great.
Thanks again.
Carol

Hal,wrote:
Read this link for related problem w mail that won't delete. Seems to work for them, but it happened several years ago:

https://discussions.apple.com/message/5838875#5838875

Sent from my iPad 3

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:16 am (PST) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Feb 21, 2013, at 5:57 PM, N.A. Nada whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Too bad the resolution wasn't shared with the group so others can learn from it.

I'm reading this thread pretty late, but didn't Carol tell us EXACTLY what the resolution was (click the "thumbs down" icon in the toolbar). Or, was there something more related to the fact that it was yahoo mail that was important but not mentioned?

I don't use Yahoo mail at all, so I have not idea whether there's something more to this than what's clearly written in message (unless she wrote another message earlier that I've already deleted).

Thanks,
Jim

Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:38 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Eric" emanmb

ATM, I'm not using itunes much except to update the iphone as I don't have speakers worthy of listening to (thanks mac pro engineers) so yesterday when the itunes update came out I threw caution to the wind and updated. Running OS 10.6.8.

I then started playing with it to see how it works and came across some weird artwork. This one, the song for which is probably not possible to tag w/artwork since the title is gibberish and probably originally written in Thai, is the oddest one of the bunch.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z210/emanphoto/Screenshot2013-02-23at121651AM.png
http://tinyurl.com/aumam2r
Has anyone else had this issue? I mean, where the heck did itunes come up with this artwork and why would it even bother to use it?

Also, I've yet to find a way to turn off the "Do you want the application "itunes.app" to accept incoming network connections?" message. Is deleting itunes via the Terminal as per this page http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1525142 the only option to fix this? Yikes.
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:13 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

I had something similar happen to me a while ago. Somehow the setting in
iCal > Preferences > Advanced had been changed, so I'd check that first.

I was able to reinstate the missing data from a backup. I use my calendar
as a diary as well as a calendar so this matters to me!

Otto

On 22 February 2013 14:15, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

> Some months ago I noticed that my calendar in iCal had lost previous years
> of data. I had calendar entries going back a month or two, but all previous
> years were blank.
>
> I assumed it was from a system update or from starting to synch with
> iCloud, and expected it to be okay going forward.
>
> But today I again had to find a past event and discovered that I have
> almost exactly one month of entries and everything earlier than January 24
> is blank.
>
> I do use iCloud for synching. But I hope and expect that using iCloud
> doesn't mean that I can't keep my calendar's events from the past.
>
> Has anyone seen and solved this issue?
>

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:11 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"George Barker" four46

Otto has already suggested checking your preference settings. From
what you say about only the last month's entries still existing I
would agree with this. There is a setting which allows you to set a
time period after which entries should be deleted - it sounds like
this is what's happening here.

Otherwise, last month I experienced several missing current entries
missing with no explanation. An internet search revealed this was not
an entirely uncommon occurence, though nobody had ever got to the
bottom of it. In this case I cleared out the .plist and did my best
to restore from my latest backup.

George

>On 22 February 2013 14:15, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Some months ago I noticed that my calendar in iCal had lost previous years
>> of data. I had calendar entries going back a month or two, but all previous
>> years were blank.
>>
>> I assumed it was from a system update or from starting to synch with
>> iCloud, and expected it to be okay going forward.
>>
>> But today I again had to find a past event and discovered that I have
>> almost exactly one month of entries and everything earlier than January 24
>> is blank.
>>
>> I do use iCloud for synching. But I hope and expect that using iCloud
>> doesn't mean that I can't keep my calendar's events from the past.
>>
> > Has anyone seen and solved this issue?

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:30 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup

Otto and George,

Thank you so much. I had never even noticed that preference setting in iCal. I'm sure it somehow got set when I switched to iCloud synching because I certainly never set it myself. I have turned it off (in "Advanced"; settings) and will watch to see if I keep the history.

I can't restore from backup because this started so long ago that if I restored from a backup I would lose months of more recent calendar events.

When you restored from backup, was it a Time Machine backup, or something else?

Anyway, I'm very hopeful and confident that this was the solution: turn off deleting events that are more than a month old!!

Daly

Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:37 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

I don't sync using iCloud. I still don't know for sure what happened but
it's bad news when a setting gets changed so that you lose data. It took me
a few days to realise what had happened; I first noticed it on my iPhone's
calendar.

I take daily (and weekly, monthly, etc.) backups using CCC but the same
should be available using TM.

IIRC what I did was to create a new calendar, restore the backup into that,
then combine the 2. You can also rename calendars. You shouldn't lose
anything as long as you have backups for the right period; you can create
as many calendars as it takes. The worst case should be dealing with a few
duplicates.

Otto

On 24 February 2013 05:30, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

> Otto and George,
>
> Thank you so much. I had never even noticed that preference setting in
> iCal. I'm sure it somehow got set when I switched to iCloud synching
> because I certainly never set it myself. I have turned it off (in
> "Advanced"; settings) and will watch to see if I keep the history.
>
> I can't restore from backup because this started so long ago that if I
> restored from a backup I would lose months of more recent calendar events.
>
> When you restored from backup, was it a Time Machine backup, or something
> else?
>
> Anyway, I'm very hopeful and confident that this was the solution: turn
> off deleting events that are more than a month old!!
>

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:12 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:37 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> I don't sync using iCloud. I still don't know for sure what happened but
> it's bad news when a setting gets changed so that you lose data. It took me a few days to realise what had happened; I first noticed it on my iPhone's calendar.
>
> I take daily (and weekly, monthly, etc.) backups using CCC but the same should be available using TM.
>
> IIRC what I did was to create a new calendar, restore the backup into that, then combine the 2. You can also rename calendars. You shouldn't lose anything as long as you have backups for the right period; you can create as many calendars as it takes. The worst case should be dealing with a few
> duplicates.

Otto, this was encouraging. I attempted to replicate what you did, but found that I had no Time Machine backup old enough to recover my old events. So I just have to let that go. At least now, having corrected the setting for "delete events earlier than one month ago," I should be okay into the future.

But your post did leave me with two questions:
1) If you are backing up with CCC, how is it that you can retain earlier versions of files? Does CCC let you keep earlier versions of files while still cloning the most recent file?

2) How in iCal do you combine two calendars?

Daly

Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:12 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

I'm running v 6.0 of iCal and can find no provision for setting or adjusting automatic deletion of events based upon their age. That includes settings under the 'Advanced' tab. Is this setting only in an older version of iCal?

..............Mike

On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Otto Nikolaus otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I don't sync using iCloud. I still don't know for sure what happened but
> it's bad news when a setting gets changed so that you lose data. It took me
> a few days to realise what had happened; I first noticed it on my iPhone's
> calendar.
>
> I take daily (and weekly, monthly, etc.) backups using CCC but the same
> should be available using TM.
>
> IIRC what I did was to create a new calendar, restore the backup into that,
> then combine the 2. You can also rename calendars. You shouldn't lose
> anything as long as you have backups for the right period; you can create
> as many calendars as it takes. The worst case should be dealing with a few
> duplicates.
>
> Otto
>
> On 24 February 2013 05:30, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Otto and George,
>>
>> Thank you so much. I had never even noticed that preference setting in
>> iCal. I'm sure it somehow got set when I switched to iCloud synching
>> because I certainly never set it myself. I have turned it off (in
>> "Advanced"; settings) and will watch to see if I keep the history.
>>
>> I can't restore from backup because this started so long ago that if I
>> restored from a backup I would lose months of more recent calendar events.
>>
>> When you restored from backup, was it a Time Machine backup, or something
>> else?
>>
>> Anyway, I'm very hopeful and confident that this was the solution: turn
>> off deleting events that are more than a month old!!
>>
>
>
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:38 am (PST) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

> Some months ago I noticed that my calendar in iCal had lost previous years of data. I had calendar entries going back a month or two, but all previous years were blank.
>
> I assumed it was from a system update or from starting to synch with iCloud, and expected it to be okay going forward.
>
> But today I again had to find a past event and discovered that I have almost exactly one month of entries and everything earlier than January 24 is blank.

FWIW, I cannot find anything in Mountain Lion's "Calendar"; program's Preferences>Advanced tab that deletes events older than a specified time. Must have been too many Apple Support Engineers spending too much time on the phone with angry users complaining about their past lives disappearing before their eyes...

Jim Robertson

(who doesn't even USE Calendar except as a vehicle for pouring stuff from iCloud into BusyCal, because Calendar cannot stop itself from hopelessly, forever, duplicating whole oodles of events!)

Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:34 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Nick Andriash" andriash2005


On 2013-02-21, at 1:03 AM, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com> wrote:

> Interesting tidbits from the results:
> - Virus Barrier (both the free Express version and the commercial version), Dr. Web, and Avast!, all free programs, were able to detect 100% of active malware. Other did less well.

Thanks for all the info Randy. I decided last year to go with the commercial version of Virus Barrier, as I felt better to be safe than sorry... and not that I partake in careless behaviour.

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17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1024 MB
OS X 10.8.2 on a 480GB OWC Mercury Extreme Pro 6G SSD

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Nick Andriash wrote:

> Thanks for all the info Randy. I decided last year to go with the commercial version of Virus Barrier, as I felt better to be safe than sorry... and not that I partake in careless behaviour.

Just a note. I use the commercial version of VirusBarrier too. (Not because I think that I need it. I don't. But because my profession more or less requires me to.) I've had no problems at all.

However, I have heard from Mac users whose computers were really screwed up by VirusBarrier. In fact, it is more or less the same for most fully interactive malware programs:
http://www.macattorney.com/rbb.html

So, if you find that your Mac has slowed, and/or that you see the rotating beachball way too often, consider uninstalling your anti-virus software to see if things immediately get better.

This article is out of date, but still relevant:

Mac OS X anti-virus software: More trouble than it's worth?
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10331147-263.html

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:29 am (PST) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Otto Nikolaus otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> If you have a working PC that you are going to keep, IMO it's simply not
> worth the trouble and expense of running Windows on a Mac.

I wouldn't go quite that far.

I much prefer the Mac OS for most of what I do, but I MUST use Internet Explorer for one Enterprise Medical Electronic Health Record and soon will be compelled to use Windows for another. My VM "engine" is Fusion 5.0.whateverthenewestversionis; my VM itself is Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit. I run the VM in full screen mode so that my Mac doesn't show any traces of the Mac on screen when I'm in "the dark side," BUT with VMware's behind-the-scenes melding of keyboard shortcuts, I can in Windows (where Windows would use . When I'm doing beta testing for one of these EHRs, Windows' snipping tool, Dropbox, and the VM allow me to share screenshots with my Mac-naive colleages while I do all my communications with them in Mail.app.

I'm sure others could supply far more compelling reasons why it's nice to have both environments available simultaneously on the same machine.

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Jim Robertson
(who's obviously gotten a bit behind on reading this listserv)

Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:22 am (PST) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Jeff jbturof@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Every file I brought over from my MacBook pro has to have it's read/write settings changed by me and 'authorized'. It won't let me just change the settings on the folder they're in.
> It's a huge time waster and pretty annoying.
>
> Anyone have any ideas of what I can do to fix this?

It may be too late, unless you still have the MacBook Pro, but it sounds as though you did one of two things:

1. Copied the files one by one from a user account on the MacBook Pro to the iMac, or

2. Used Migration Assistant, but only AFTER you finished setting up the iMac, so that your main account on the new computer isn't the default admin account, as it was on the MacBook Pro.

If you have the MacBook Pro still, you could start over; reinstall the OS, but DON'T set up your main user account on the iMac before running Migration Assistant.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:29 am (PST) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Paul Smith kullervo@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Running a known Java app locally, with no connection made to the internet, should be safe. I would strongly advise against installing the Oracle component at this time, though.

Many of the posters who give blanket advice that the proper thing to do is just to delete all traced of Java from the Mac must not realize that there are people who would have to go and find different employment if they did that. There are MANY enterprise web apps that are ABSOLUTELY critical to day to day work for the employers in question that are totally dependent on a properly functioning Java plugin. Many Mac users might stare at that cute little coffeecup daily as they load their web app to start work, yet still not have the foggiest notion that if they delete the Java runtime they've deleted their ability to do their daily work at the same time.

JMO (based on having to use a Java Plugin daily),

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Jim Robertson

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