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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:29 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"redhillsranger" jsm5320432
Jim:
That's what the Apple Genius folks said and so the erased all data on the phone and tried syncing over the cloud with a clean slate. It was still continuing to keep duplicating more events each sync.
Given the trouble I had with icloud and the loss of much of a day from my practice to sort this out, I am following their collective advice and simply doing direct connect syncing and leaving the cloud alone.
Hopefully, no one else runs into this anomaly as it was not a simple fix at all.
John
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim Saklad wrote:
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> > I had a somewhat surreal experience with my iphone, MB Pro (10.7.5) and the icloud when I first set up my phone and synced via the "cloud". Every time I synced it duplicated every event on my MB Pro and phone. Luckily this happened at the Apple Store and after the intervention of 3 Apple Geniuses (One phone guy, one "cloud" lady and another MB Pro guy) working on things for nearly 4 hours they restored my original data - mostly.
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> The usual cause is syncing BOTH via iCloud AND via local computer connection.
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That's what the Apple Genius folks said and so the erased all data on the phone and tried syncing over the cloud with a clean slate. It was still continuing to keep duplicating more events each sync.
Given the trouble I had with icloud and the loss of much of a day from my practice to sort this out, I am following their collective advice and simply doing direct connect syncing and leaving the cloud alone.
Hopefully, no one else runs into this anomaly as it was not a simple fix at all.
John
--- In macsupportcentral@
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> > I had a somewhat surreal experience with my iphone, MB Pro (10.7.5) and the icloud when I first set up my phone and synced via the "cloud"
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> The usual cause is syncing BOTH via iCloud AND via local computer connection.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:33 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"George Barker" four46
MIchael Stupinski wrote:
>I'm running v 6.0 of iCal and can find no provision for setting or
>adjusting automatic deletion of events based upon their age. That
>includes settings under the 'Advanced' tab. Is this setting only in
>an older version of iCal?
That could be, Michael, I'm running v4.0.4 under OSX 10.6.8.
Incidentally I don't use the Cloud, and I only synch FROM my iMAc
iCal TO my iphone - which means I don't make any new entries to the
Calendar on the iPhone. This is a bit of a pain, but early on I was
synching Wunderlist in both directions and some entries unexpectedly
disappeared. No great loss there, but if it were my Calendar I'd be
in trouble.
George
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>I'm running v 6.0 of iCal and can find no provision for setting or
>adjusting automatic deletion of events based upon their age. That
>includes settings under the 'Advanced&#
>an older version of iCal?
That could be, Michael, I'm running v4.0.4 under OSX 10.6.8.
Incidentally I don't use the Cloud, and I only synch FROM my iMAc
iCal TO my iphone - which means I don't make any new entries to the
Calendar on the iPhone. This is a bit of a pain, but early on I was
synching Wunderlist in both directions and some entries unexpectedly
disappeared. No great loss there, but if it were my Calendar I'd be
in trouble.
George
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:05 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
Otto and Jim,
I am very happy to know that you can import over an existing calendar without deleting its data. That makes all the difference. But in my case, yes, my Time Machine backup doesn't go back far enough to recover data from before my calendar lost ITS data. My Time Machine had a nervous breakdown late last year and I had to start it over from scratch. Oh, well.
Daly
On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> I can't restore from backup because this started so long ago that if I restored from a backup I would lose months of more recent calendar events.
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> You can archive/export your existing calendar(s), then restore from backup, then re-import the saved (current) data. Where they overlap you will have duplication, but that's easier to deal with than absence of data.
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I am very happy to know that you can import over an existing calendar without deleting its data. That makes all the difference. But in my case, yes, my Time Machine backup doesn't go back far enough to recover data from before my calendar lost ITS data. My Time Machine had a nervous breakdown late last year and I had to start it over from scratch. Oh, well.
Daly
On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> I can't restore from backup because this started so long ago that if I restored from a backup I would lose months of more recent calendar events.
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> You can archive/export your existing calendar(s), then restore from backup, then re-import the saved (current) data. Where they overlap you will have duplication, but that's easier to deal with than absence of data.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:25 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"ed-reiff" ed-reiff
My iCal doesn't delete anything, I just did a search and have entries going back to 2003. Running current ML.
Ed
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , James Robertson wrote:
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> On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Daly Jessup wrote:
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> > Some months ago I noticed that my calendar in iCal had lost previous years of data. I had calendar entries going back a month or two, but all previous years were blank.
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> > I assumed it was from a system update or from starting to synch with iCloud, and expected it to be okay going forward.
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> > But today I again had to find a past event and discovered that I have almost exactly one month of entries and everything earlier than January 24 is blank.
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> FWIW, I cannot find anything in Mountain Lion's "Calendar"; program's Preferences>Advanced tab that deletes events older than a specified time. Must have been too many Apple Support Engineers spending too much time on the phone with angry users complaining about their past lives disappearing before their eyes...
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> Jim Robertson
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> (who doesn't even USE Calendar except as a vehicle for pouring stuff from iCloud into BusyCal, because Calendar cannot stop itself from hopelessly, forever, duplicating whole oodles of events!)
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Ed
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> On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Daly Jessup wrote:
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> > Some months ago I noticed that my calendar in iCal had lost previous years of data. I had calendar entries going back a month or two, but all previous years were blank.
> >
> > I assumed it was from a system update or from starting to synch with iCloud, and expected it to be okay going forward.
> >
> > But today I again had to find a past event and discovered that I have almost exactly one month of entries and everything earlier than January 24 is blank.
>
> FWIW, I cannot find anything in Mountain Lion's "Calendar"
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> Jim Robertson
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> (who doesn't even USE Calendar except as a vehicle for pouring stuff from iCloud into BusyCal, because Calendar cannot stop itself from hopelessly, forever, duplicating whole oodles of events!)
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:14 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> My iCal doesn't delete anything, I just did a search and have entries going back to 2003. Running current ML.
> Ed
My earliest entry is in November, 2000.
In the past, I did have to do some archiving/restoring, but have been stable for a while.
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> Ed
My earliest entry is in November, 2000.
In the past, I did have to do some archiving/restoring
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:31 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Carol Corley" floridabouvs
Sorry for the confusion. I thought I was asking a question on one item and thanking the person who answered my question about another item. But what follows was the ultimate solution to one of the issues in question:
I just got off the phone with the Apple techs about my email problem. I have 4 Yahoo accounts and was able to delete messages off 3 of them but not off the 4th. The problem had to be with the iMac because I could delete mail from that account from my PC or iPad or iPhone, not the iMac. I had checked all settings and couldn't see any difference in the accounts. The tech had me delete the account and re-enter the account. Which I did, and now it works fine. Simple, actually, but it took her about 15 mins to think of it, so I don't feel badly that I didn't think of it first
And while on the phone, I also asked her how to delete bulk mail as one action, without having to look at the emails individually. She told me to call up bulk mail and hit Command A, which I did, and it works. Yea!
Brent, I thought I got the solution off the list. Sometimes it's hard to tell with so many emails and so many accounts and so many things going on at the same time -- I call up my emails and deal with them in spare moments. My lapse in courtesy wasn't intentional.
Carol
IIRC, she was commenting on something else and just include reference to the icon. The person who sent her the solution, did not bother to send it to the list but to her privately. That is my complaint.
Brent
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I just got off the phone with the Apple techs about my email problem. I have 4 Yahoo accounts and was able to delete messages off 3 of them but not off the 4th. The problem had to be with the iMac because I could delete mail from that account from my PC or iPad or iPhone, not the iMac. I had checked all settings and couldn't see any difference in the accounts. The tech had me delete the account and re-enter the account. Which I did, and now it works fine. Simple, actually, but it took her about 15 mins to think of it, so I don't feel badly that I didn't think of it first
And while on the phone, I also asked her how to delete bulk mail as one action, without having to look at the emails individually. She told me to call up bulk mail and hit Command A, which I did, and it works. Yea!
Brent, I thought I got the solution off the list. Sometimes it's hard to tell with so many emails and so many accounts and so many things going on at the same time -- I call up my emails and deal with them in spare moments. My lapse in courtesy wasn't intentional.
Carol
IIRC, she was commenting on something else and just include reference to the icon. The person who sent her the solution, did not bother to send it to the list but to her privately. That is my complaint.
Brent
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:36 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Carol Corley" floridabouvs
OK, that question was how to mark a mail as junk so that the computer would immediately send anything from that address to junk without me having to look at it. I think the answer was to drag it.
Again, I don't always realize that an email comes to me off list because I have toooo much going on right now and it's hard to keep all the ducks in their separate rows.
Personally, I think sometimes people send something privately because they don't want to bore the list with something so simple. Not sure if that is true in this case, but it is true in a post I received privately from another list on a totally different topic. But you make a good point. Questions often help others.
Carol
The way she posed the question had nothing to do with moving it to the Junk folder, and sounded more like she either wanted to "bounce" then email or forward it to an abuse e-ddy.
Solving problems off-list does two things. One, it does not allow us to judge if our own understanding of the problem and if our solution is correct, and two, does not allow those who did not have a solution learn from the thread. Often if one person asks a question, or does not understand something, there are others in the same boat, but who have not voiced the question.
Brent
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Again, I don't always realize that an email comes to me off list because I have toooo much going on right now and it's hard to keep all the ducks in their separate rows.
Personally, I think sometimes people send something privately because they don't want to bore the list with something so simple. Not sure if that is true in this case, but it is true in a post I received privately from another list on a totally different topic. But you make a good point. Questions often help others.
Carol
The way she posed the question had nothing to do with moving it to the Junk folder, and sounded more like she either wanted to "bounce" then email or forward it to an abuse e-ddy.
Solving problems off-list does two things. One, it does not allow us to judge if our own understanding of the problem and if our solution is correct, and two, does not allow those who did not have a solution learn from the thread. Often if one person asks a question, or does not understand something, there are others in the same boat, but who have not voiced the question.
Brent
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:33 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
I'm not sure anyone answered your question. If you have both, you should update both. You don't want either to be out of date. As long as Apple is supporting Java on your OS, stick with Apple. It's easier. However, Apple will discontinue direct Java support in the future. I forget the details. You must have manually installed the "third party" Java at some time as well. You can either remove this or simply keep it up to date.
As to disabling Java in your browsers, here are instructions:
http://osxdaily.com/2012/09/08/how-to-disable-java/
Whether you should do this is a judgement call. Some people need Java, but most don't. It is becoming obsolete. JAVA is AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN a security threat BUT please don't panic. The "doomsday scenario" that's been spun recently is just another load of security industry hysteria.
My advice. Go ahead and disable Java in your browsers as instructed above. It's easy. Do not remove it. Keep updating it. If you should discover that you need Java for a website (your browser will tell you), you can turn it on at that time.
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Hugh Crymble wrote:
> I received updates from Apple today to update Java SE 6 to 1.6.0_41
>
> and
>
> from Oracle to update to Java 7 Update 15.
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> Does anyone know which I should be using for good security on a Mac or is there no difference?
>
> Thanks
>
> hugh
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>
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As to disabling Java in your browsers, here are instructions:
http://osxdaily.
Whether you should do this is a judgement call. Some people need Java, but most don't. It is becoming obsolete. JAVA is AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN a security threat BUT please don't panic. The "doomsday scenario" that's been spun recently is just another load of security industry hysteria.
My advice. Go ahead and disable Java in your browsers as instructed above. It's easy. Do not remove it. Keep updating it. If you should discover that you need Java for a website (your browser will tell you), you can turn it on at that time.
Cheers,
tod
On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Hugh Crymble wrote:
> I received updates from Apple today to update Java SE 6 to 1.6.0_41
>
> and
>
> from Oracle to update to Java 7 Update 15.
>
> Does anyone know which I should be using for good security on a Mac or is there no difference?
>
> Thanks
>
> hugh
>
>
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:35 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?
As I remember, my experience with it has been with things I have trouble emptying from the Trash, and it removes them without asking for confirmation, and quickly.
Now that I actually *read* about it, you appear to be correct.
On the other hand, I'm comfortable with the command line, also....
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As I remember, my experience with it has been with things I have trouble emptying from the Trash, and it removes them without asking for confirmation, and quickly.
Now that I actually *read* about it, you appear to be correct.
On the other hand, I'm comfortable with the command line, also....
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:36 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>>> Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?
>>
>> Probably yes. Can you not just start the empty going some time you can leave it, over night for instance, and just let its finish ...
>
> P.s. in future, you might think about emptying your trash a little more often, to avoid this sort of issue.
Doesn't help if you just deleted a single folder with 13,000 files in it....
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>>
>> Probably yes. Can you not just start the empty going some time you can leave it, over night for instance, and just let its finish ...
>
> P.s. in future, you might think about emptying your trash a little more often, to avoid this sort of issue.
Doesn't help if you just deleted a single folder with 13,000 files in it....
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:48 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"nosteele" nosteele
Jim, you are absolutely correct, I am chalking this up as a lesson learned.
Okay, so going back to using the command line, I have been doing some online research and since these are Time Machine Backups that appear to be on my external HD, O am thinking that I could use rm -rf /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/.Trashes/ to delete these backups.
Am I getting warm?
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim Saklad wrote:
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> > Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?
>
> As I remember, my experience with it has been with things I have trouble emptying from the Trash, and it removes them without asking for confirmation, and quickly.
>
> Now that I actually *read* about it, you appear to be correct.
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> On the other hand, I'm comfortable with the command line, also....
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Okay, so going back to using the command line, I have been doing some online research and since these are Time Machine Backups that appear to be on my external HD, O am thinking that I could use rm -rf /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/.Trashes/ to delete these backups.
Am I getting warm?
--- In macsupportcentral@
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> > Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?
>
> As I remember, my experience with it has been with things I have trouble emptying from the Trash, and it removes them without asking for confirmation, and quickly.
>
> Now that I actually *read* about it, you appear to be correct.
>
> On the other hand, I'm comfortable with the command line, also....
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:41 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"ed-reiff" ed-reiff
You must be missing a setting somewhere, my TM has reached max long ago at 2.5 years and deletes files on the backup disk a couple time a month to make room and they never show up in the trash.
Try doing a Google search for the problem and see if you can find an answer online.
Ed
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Chris Jones wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:04 PM, "nosteele"; wrote:
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> > Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?
>
> Probably yes. Can you not just start the empty going some time you can leave it, over night for instance, and just let its finish ...
>
> Chris
>
> >
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim Saklad wrote:
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> >>> I want to empty my Trash and find that when it starts to process the number of files to be deleted it has 130,000 files and counting. I should say that all that is showing Trash are these eleven TM backups.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a way that I can delete these backups one by one rather than having Trash do 130,000 files at one time?
> >>
> >> Try "Secure Empty Trash" from the Finder menu.
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Try doing a Google search for the problem and see if you can find an answer online.
Ed
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> Hi,
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> On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:04 PM, "nosteele"
>
> > Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?
>
> Probably yes. Can you not just start the empty going some time you can leave it, over night for instance, and just let its finish ...
>
> Chris
>
> >
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@
> >>
> >>> I want to empty my Trash and find that when it starts to process the number of files to be deleted it has 130,000 files and counting. I should say that all that is showing Trash are these eleven TM backups.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a way that I can delete these backups one by one rather than having Trash do 130,000 files at one time?
> >>
> >> Try "Secure Empty Trash" from the Finder menu.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:22 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Patsy Price" beyondwords2
My Microsoft optical USB mouse, which has served me well, has quit
working several times today. I notice that the light is off, so
unplug the mouse from my keyboard and plug it back in and all is well
for an hour or so. Then it happens again.
My keyboard continues to work fine.
Nothing has changed recently. (Except for the addition of 3
rambunctious cats to our household in the summer. They have knocked
connections loose a few times, but they haven't been near my computer
today, and nothing seemed loose when I checked.)
Ideas?
Patsy
working several times today. I notice that the light is off, so
unplug the mouse from my keyboard and plug it back in and all is well
for an hour or so. Then it happens again.
My keyboard continues to work fine.
Nothing has changed recently. (Except for the addition of 3
rambunctious cats to our household in the summer. They have knocked
connections loose a few times, but they haven't been near my computer
today, and nothing seemed loose when I checked.)
Ideas?
Patsy
Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:32 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Try another mouse for a couple of days. This will tell you if it is time to replace the first mouse.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Patsy Price wrote:
My Microsoft optical USB mouse, which has served me well, has quit
working several times today. I notice that the light is off, so
unplug the mouse from my keyboard and plug it back in and all is well
for an hour or so. Then it happens again.
My keyboard continues to work fine.
Nothing has changed recently. (Except for the addition of 3
rambunctious cats to our household in the summer. They have knocked
connections loose a few times, but they haven't been near my computer
today, and nothing seemed loose when I checked.)
Ideas?
Patsy
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On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Patsy Price wrote:
My Microsoft optical USB mouse, which has served me well, has quit
working several times today. I notice that the light is off, so
unplug the mouse from my keyboard and plug it back in and all is well
for an hour or so. Then it happens again.
My keyboard continues to work fine.
Nothing has changed recently. (Except for the addition of 3
rambunctious cats to our household in the summer. They have knocked
connections loose a few times, but they haven't been near my computer
today, and nothing seemed loose when I checked.)
Ideas?
Patsy
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:46 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"ed-reiff" ed-reiff
change the battery
buy an new mouse
drop it on the floor and try again
Ed
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Patsy Price wrote:
>
> My Microsoft optical USB mouse, which has served me well, has quit
> working several times today. I notice that the light is off, so
> unplug the mouse from my keyboard and plug it back in and all is well
> for an hour or so. Then it happens again.
>
> My keyboard continues to work fine.
>
> Nothing has changed recently. (Except for the addition of 3
> rambunctious cats to our household in the summer. They have knocked
> connections loose a few times, but they haven't been near my computer
> today, and nothing seemed loose when I checked.)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Patsy
>
buy an new mouse
drop it on the floor and try again
Ed
--- In macsupportcentral@
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> My Microsoft optical USB mouse, which has served me well, has quit
> working several times today. I notice that the light is off, so
> unplug the mouse from my keyboard and plug it back in and all is well
> for an hour or so. Then it happens again.
>
> My keyboard continues to work fine.
>
> Nothing has changed recently. (Except for the addition of 3
> rambunctious cats to our household in the summer. They have knocked
> connections loose a few times, but they haven't been near my computer
> today, and nothing seemed loose when I checked.)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Patsy
>
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