3/07/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9420

15 New Messages

Digest #9420
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Re: Interesting Mac hacking article from USAA by "Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
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Re: Interesting Mac hacking article from USAA by "Jim Showalter" jshowalt94127
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Intel to PPC Mac Question by "Guy Kudlemyer" truckersroost
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Re: Intel to PPC Mac Question by "Barry Austern" barryaus
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Re: Intel to PPC Mac Question by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: Intel to PPC Mac Question by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: All My Files by "Banksia" banksia02
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Re: All My Files by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
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Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: I need a boot disk for Mountain Lion by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Digest Number 9419 by "Richard Huggins" huggins88

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:35 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 6 March 2013 23:08, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:

>
> The last three words there are a URL link on the original site. I clicked
> on it and went straight to the page without doing anything further about
> cookies.
>
> Bad coding by their webmaster.
>

Not just bad coding, but how does something become "live" with this level
of testing?

Otto

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:43 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

As a member of USAA I just logged info my account and found the file. If the coder was operating entirely in the USAA system when he tested it maybe that's how it got out.

.........Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 6 March 2013 23:08, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The last three words there are a URL link on the original site. I clicked
>> on it and went straight to the page without doing anything further about
>> cookies.
>>
>> Bad coding by their webmaster.
>
> Not just bad coding, but how does something become "live" with this level
> of testing?
>
> Otto
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:45 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Showalter" jshowalt94127

I am a USAA member, and have been for over 50 years. USAA is an affiliation of military personnel for insurance and banking services. They take security very seriously. As a member, I had absolutely no problem following the link they provided to me in an email using Safari on OS X 10.7.5. Based on previous discussions regarding security on Macs in this group, I did have a minor quibble with the comments on the page at USAA. I don't quibble with their restricting access to their site, however.

On Mar 6, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>>> https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/advice-security-machack?EID=corp_cc_13_03_U250-11&akredirect=true
>>
>> My Safari is set to never block cookies, yet I cannot visit the site without being told to recognize cookies?
>
> I got the same message:
>> Welcome to USAA! To get started, please enable cookies.
>>
>> We take the security of our members' information very seriously, so we've recently enhanced the protection on our website. Please enable cookies in your web browser to continue.
>> How to enable your cookies...
>>
>> It varies by browser, but you can usually change your cookie settings by going to the browser "Options" or "Settings" menu and finding the "Privacy" settings. Or, just search your browser's "Help" menu for "enable cookies".
>> You should then be able to access usaa.com.
>
> The last three words there are a URL link on the original site. I clicked on it and went straight to the page without doing anything further about cookies.
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> Bad coding by their webmaster.
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:15 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Guy Kudlemyer" truckersroost

Hello:

I¹m using a PPC Mac Mini with 10.4.11. I recently received a CD that is ³PC
and Mac Compatible.² Of course, I¹m sure that the CD is intended to be
³compatible² with Intel Macs. I cannot get it to open on my PPC Mac. Is
there something I can install that will ³convert² this CD into a format that
my PPC Mac will be able to read?

I thank you all for your kind assistance!

Guy
Thurston, OR

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:37 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus


On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Guy Kudlemyer wrote:

>
> I'm using a PPC Mac Mini with 10.4.11. I recently received a CD that is "PC
> and Mac Compatible." Of course, I'm sure that the CD is intended to be
> "compatible" with Intel Macs. I cannot get it to open on my PPC Mac. Is
> there something I can install that will "convert" this CD into a format that
> my PPC Mac will be able to read?

If you are referring simply to being about the READ the disc, there is no difference between the formats for PPC and Intel Macs. If you are talking about being able to run a program on it then it is a different story.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:00 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Guy Kudlemyer wrote:

> Hello:
>
> I'm using a PPC Mac Mini with 10.4.11. I recently received a CD that is "PC
> and Mac Compatible." Of course, I'm sure that the CD is intended to be
> "compatible" with Intel Macs. I cannot get it to open on my PPC Mac. Is
> there something I can install that will "convert" this CD into a format that
> my PPC Mac will be able to read?

Sadly, I do not think it will work with your PPC Mac. What is the CD?

Daly

Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:05 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 7 March 2013 00:37, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

>
> If you are referring simply to being about the READ the disc, there is no
> difference between the formats for PPC and Intel Macs. If you are talking
> about being able to run a program on it then it is a different story.
>

Indeed. I'm sure you can look at the contents using Finder and copy any
folders/files from it. What is it?

Otto

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:46 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Banksia" banksia02

A warning about All my Files. Last year, soon after I got Mountain Lion, I assumed All My Files that showed up by default, were duplicates or something, certainly not originals, and I deleted them. DON'T! Luckily I had not emptied the Trash but getting them out of the trash and back to their original locations was a monumental effort needing a password to move only one or two at a time and I lost some. I was not aware at that time that Finder had preferences to turn All my Files off. And I had had to restart Time Machine about that time so had no backup! I'm glad you posted about this so others can be warned.

Ruth

Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:32 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Yep, having a backup helps us get back on my feet after I try a bonehead maneuver. Sometimes it's the only way I learn on a computer. Do something bonehead, then go "Oh, yes, now I understand what they were talking about." Normally takes about 24 hours w backup to get back to normal after receiving a new lesson in what to click and what not to click, but heck, once I learn, I don't repeat the mistake anymore. Or until I forget. :)

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Banksia <banksia@...> wrote:
>
> A warning about All my Files. Last year, soon after I got Mountain Lion, I assumed All My Files that showed up by default, were duplicates or something, certainly not originals, and I deleted them. DON'T! Luckily I had not emptied the Trash but getting them out of the trash and back to their original locations was a monumental effort needing a password to move only one or two at a time and I lost some. I was not aware at that time that Finder had preferences to turn All my Files off. And I had had to restart Time Machine about that time so had no backup! I'm glad you posted about this so others can be warned.
>
> Ruth
>

Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:54 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Earle Jones wrote:

> Back about System 9 I had a copy of a virus (WDEF -- the "Windows Definition" virus) on a floppy.

Back when the Macintosh was running OS 7, OS 8 and OS 9 (prior to the
advent of OS X with its UNIX underpinnings), and the Mac had a much smaller market
share than today, there were a bunch of viruses for the
Macintosh. (Though nowhere near the huge number that exist for
Windows. And most of the OS 8/9 viruses that existed weren't
seriously malicious.) These include

MacOS/nVIR - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99830.htm
MacOS/INIT-M - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99861.htm
MacOS/ZUC - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99863.htm
MacOS/CDEF - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99888.htm
MacOS/MBDF - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99829.htm
MacOS/INIT29 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99858.htm
MacOS/WDEF - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99862.htm
MacOS/SevenDust - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99884.htm
MacOS/Simpsons@MM - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99102.htm
W97M/Antimarc@MM - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_98325.htm
MacOS/CODE252 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99832.htm
MacOS/MDEF - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99835.htm
MacOS/CODE32767 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99838.htm
MacOS/INIT1984 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99857.htm
MacOS/INIT9403 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99859.htm
MacOS/Flag - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99891.htm
MacHC/Merryxmas - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99893.htm
MacOS/CODE9811 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99896.htm
MacOS/Peace - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99831.htm
MacOS/INIT17 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99834.htm
MacOS/NVP - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99836.htm
MacOS/T4 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99839.htm
MacOS/ANTI - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99887.htm
MacOS/CODE1 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99890.htm
MacHC/ThreeTunes - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99892.htm
MacOS/Frankie - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99894.htm

See:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-virus/macintosh-faq/
Section 7

So, clearly, a small market share does not equal no viruses...even for the Macintosh itself.

Apparently the lack of viruses for Macs running OS X has nothing to do
with its proportion of market share. Maybe the lack of viruses for
Macs running OS X has to do with something else? Hmmm..could it be that Windows is
inherently more vulnerable to malware attacks (i.e. is much less secure) than OS X?
I think that's the only logical conclusion.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:21 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 7 March 2013 01:54, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.com> wrote:

>
> Back when the Macintosh was running OS 7, OS 8 and OS 9 (prior to the
> advent of OS X with its UNIX underpinnings), and the Mac had a much
> smaller market
> share than today, there were a bunch of viruses for the
> Macintosh. (Though nowhere near the huge number that exist for
> Windows. And most of the OS 8/9 viruses that existed weren't
> seriously malicious.) These include
>
> MacOS/nVIR - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99830.htm
> MacOS/INIT-M - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99861.htm
> MacOS/ZUC - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99863.htm
> MacOS/CDEF - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99888.htm
> MacOS/MBDF - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99829.htm
> MacOS/INIT29 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99858.htm
> MacOS/WDEF - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99862.htm
> MacOS/SevenDust - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99884.htm
> MacOS/Simpsons@MM - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99102.htm
> W97M/Antimarc@MM - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_98325.htm
> MacOS/CODE252 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99832.htm
> MacOS/MDEF - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99835.htm
> MacOS/CODE32767 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99838.htm
> MacOS/INIT1984 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99857.htm
> MacOS/INIT9403 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99859.htm
> MacOS/Flag - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99891.htm
> MacHC/Merryxmas - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99893.htm
> MacOS/CODE9811 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99896.htm
> MacOS/Peace - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99831.htm
> MacOS/INIT17 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99834.htm
> MacOS/NVP - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99836.htm
> MacOS/T4 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99839.htm
> MacOS/ANTI - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99887.htm
> MacOS/CODE1 - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99890.htm
> MacHC/ThreeTunes - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99892.htm
> MacOS/Frankie - http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99894.htm
>
> See:
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-virus/macintosh-faq/
> Section 7
>
> So, clearly, a small market share does not equal no viruses...even for the
> Macintosh itself.
>
> Apparently the lack of viruses for Macs running OS X has nothing to do
> with its proportion of market share. Maybe the lack of viruses for
> Macs running OS X has to do with something else? Hmmm..could it be that
> Windows is
> inherently more vulnerable to malware attacks (i.e. is much less secure)
> than OS X?
> I think that's the only logical conclusion.
>

Add in the following:-

1. Macs are very commonly seen on TV, both in fiction and fact-based
programmes;

2. Macs are still very popular in the creative industries;

3. There is a common perception that Mac owners are smug about their choice
of computer;

4. Thanks to iPod/iPhone/iPad, there are now more Apple-haters than ever
before;

5. Many hackers aren't interested in making money, just in the kudos of
being the first to do something;

>
It defies logic that Macs are not a bigger target for hackers and malware
than ever before, and certainly more than they were in the 80s and 90s.

Otto

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:20 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

All you need is the Mountain Lion installer file/app and a DVD disc.

The Mountain Lion installer app is a "package" file. This means you
can open the package file and use a disk image file that is included
and use your current Disk Utility and you can burn a new DVD Mountain
Lion installer disc.

To access any package file's contents do a right click (or Control left
click) on the Installer file and then pick Show Package Contents from
the contextual menu that pops up.

Then navigate down in the package file and open Contents folder and
find the SharedSupport folder.

Inside SharedSupport is InstallESD.dmg file. This is a disk image
file.

Keep this disk image file handy.

Then launch Disk Utility.

If you have never used Disk Utility to burn a disk image file to a DVD
disc, I recommend you use the Help feature in Disk Utility so you will
have the steps set out to follow.

Access the Disk Utility Help menu and start Disk Utility Help.

Click Duplicate a disk, CD, or DVD then pick Create a Disk Image. Find
the appropriate section and following the steps.

If you have not dealt with disk images before this, not the there are
two confusing parts of a Disk Image File. 1) is the Disk Image file
itself which ends in the extension .dmg, 2) when the disk image file
is double-clicked a 2nd file is produced and this 2nd file is
confusingly called the Disk Image (not the Disk Image File).

The Disk Image (the 2nd part) is a great computer trick. Your Mac
thinks this file is a disc that has been inserted. You can install
from it but your can also burn it to a DVD that will boot your Mac for
installing the OS.

Good luck.

Denver Dan

On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:28:13 -0800, Earle Jones wrote:
> Is there any way to create a DVD or better yet, a flash drive (thumb
> drive), by using something like Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer the
> system files from my primary HD to the flash drive?
>
> My primary drive (1 TB) has almost 300 GB total data. I don't want a
> complete clone.
>
> But how do I extract only the system files necessary to create a boot drive?
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> earle
> *
> _______________________
> Earle Jones

Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:26 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Richard Huggins" huggins88

I did not ….I'll try that and the other things you mentioned. Thx everyone.

R.

On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:23 PM, macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Did you go to Accounts, under Mail�s preferences� and manually change the password there, even to the same password?
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 9:01 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

There seems to be a lot of complaints on the web about how the 27" iMac case scratches DVD's inserted into the side slot. It's a shame that the super drive works but the case damages disks inserted. The iMac case has begun ruining any DVD I insert into the slot.

1. Do I take out the internal superdrive and mount into an external Firewire 800 Case

2. Buy at $129 an OWC Mercury Pro 12X External Blu-ray Reader / DVD Burner with Media Mac / PC / eSATA / FireWire 800 / FireWire 400 / USB 2.0 & 1.1

3. Buy at $238 a LaCie D2 BDXL 12X USB/FW400 Blu-Ray Drive 9000282

I was shocked to learn that 128GB of data can be stored on one BDXL Disk. But how expensive are BluRay disks for burning? Or should I just stick w burning Double sided DVDs and the cheaper burner?

It's confusing to know what is best to do. I would appreciate any advice. jr

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone hear or experience scratched DVDs in slot loading iMacs? The side slot loading seems to scratch any DVDs I insert. The iMac is a late 2009. Have used it a lot since new.
>
> Is there some procedure I am not using to insert a DVD that keeps it from scratching my media.
>

Wed Mar 6, 2013 9:38 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Lou,

The problem sounds like it is within Gmail and its address book, not on your Mac.

You realize that you are asking a question about your address book in Gmail on a Mac support list. That address book has nothing to do with the Mac OS or Apple apps.

Yes, some of us do use Gmail, but only some. Reduce this by that most of us use an email app on their computer, rather than web mail over a browser.

I hope you find an answer, but you should be looking on a Gmail list.

Brent

On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:43 AM, LouisD wrote:

I failed to mention I am using Safari 6.0.2 as my browser when accessing Gmail on the web.
I have the same issue with Firefox, so I don't think it is browser related.

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "LouisD" wrote:
>
> I use Gmail directly via the web (no download client) and have for years. I'm using OSX 10.8.2 on a Mac Pro.
>
> Beginning a few days ago, I can only access maybe the first 30 or 40 of my contacts (A, B, C and part of D, by last name, listed alphabetically). It doesn't matter if I select My Contacts, All Contacts, or Imported Contacts. I have about 400 total contacts, and I see absolutely no way to get to the rest of my contacts.
>
> If I manually type a person's name into the TO:, CC: or BCC: fields, they dutifully show up and can be added. It doesn't seem to make any difference if it is a new message, forwarded message or a reply...I only can access the first 30 or 40 names in the contact list when clicking the on the To:, cc:, or bcc: drop down. I have checked my Contacts and they all show up and seem fine. I imported my contacts weeks ago and they worked fine, but things went haywire just recently. No new software.
>
> This only started a few days ago and I am completely stumped. I've rebooted my computer, I've run YASU and cleared all the caches, etc. No luck.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou Dina
>

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