4/04/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9475

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 6:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

When you use the Save or Save As commands in Mac OS X a dialog box
appears.

In this dialog box, at the top, is the text field where you type a file
name. To the right of the text field is a button that looks like a
little square with a black triangle in it.

Click the black triangle to change the Save or Save As dialog box.
When the triangle points up the dialog box is in a complete state with
lots of options for navigating through the Finder's file and folder and
hard drive structure.

When the black triangle points down the dialog box is in a "simple" or
basic status with few options.

This black triangle is sometimes called the "reveal" triangle.

The first time you save a file in many applications, after the
application has been installed, the black triangle will be in the
"basic" or closed status.

The default status is the basic status. Change that status to full
(triangle pointing up) and you only need to do this one time in each
application and it remembers this.

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Learn about the parts of a Finder window and the icons and buttons in a
Finder window to help you use, navigate, copy files, save files, open
files, open other windows.

Good things to learn in a Finder window include the Toolbar, the
Sidebar, Icon View, List view, Column View, and Cover Flow view.

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Command key.
Macintosh pioneered a key on keyboard called the Command key. The
symbol on the key looks like a four leaf clover. On Macintosh the
command key is used with other keys to do many, many things. The
Command key is sometimes incorrectly called the Apple key. The Command
key is the Macintosh version of Window's Control key.

Option key.
The Option key next to the Command key is the Macintosh equivalent of
the Window's Alt key.

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For moving the cursor around in a document.
You can use the arrow keys, you can use the arrow keys with the Command
key and with the Option key.
Command right arrow moves the cursor to the end of a line of text.
Option right arrow, or left arrow, moves the cursor from word to word.
Command down arrow, or up arrow, moves cursor to bottom or top of text.
Option down arrow, or up arrow, moves cursor paragraph by paragraph up
and down text.

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The Menu bar.
Macintosh has a Menu bar that is always at top of screen. This Menu
bar, like many things, can be customized by you for your convenience.
You can turn on new Menus that will appear on the right side of the
Menu bar.

A good Menu to turn on is the Input menu. When you turn this menu on a
Flag symbol icon will appear on the right side of the Menu bar. This
will be a French flag if you are using a French language Mac OS X
install, an American Flag if an American English Mac OS X install, etc.

To turn on the Input Menu open System Preferences from the System
Preferences icon on the Dock, or from System Preferences under the
Apple Menu on Menu bar, or from System Preferences found in the
Applications folder.

Then open Language & Text and click the Input Sources tab.

Put a check in the Keyboard & Character Viewer check box and the new
Input Menu should appear on the Menu bar with the Flag symbol of your
language.

Close the Input Sources panel and System Preferences.

Open a text document in any program and then click on the Input Menu
flag icon on the Menu bar.

Note that in Input Menu you can also turn on keyboards for different
languages. For example, I sometimes turn on an Italian keyboard
layout. When you do this the Flag Menu changes to the currently
selected language and flag.

Choose the Character Viewer command and a dialog box will open.

Character Viewer lets you pick letters, symbols, Bullets, stars,
Punctuation, Latin and accented Latin characters, and even Emoji
symbols (extensive selection of smiley face things) and drag them to
your document.

You can also use the Keyboard Viewer under the Input Menu to find keys
on your keyboard for entering all kinds of special symbols and
characters. Select Keyboard Viewer and a keyboard should appear on
screen. press different keys and combinations of keys to find letters,
accented letters, symbols, Dollar signs, Pound signs, Euro signs, Yen
signs, math symbols, and much more.

You can click the green button on Keyboard Viewer (red, yellow, green
buttons at top left) to enlarge Keyboard Viewer to a more comfortable
size.

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Keyboard commands for common special symbols or accented characters.
Commonly used characters and accented characters can be typed with
keyboard commands. This takes a bit of practice for most new Mac users
but just at first.

For example: To enter the properly accented letter e often used in the
word "Résumé" (with e acute) do this:

Press and hold the Option key and with Option key still pressed type
the letter e. Then release the Option key and press the letter e key
again. e acute should appear.

Try it with the letter "n" with a tilde over it as in Peña (a person's
name in Spanish). Press and hold Option, add the letter n, let go of
Option and press "n" again.

These options have been available on Macintosh going back to 1984.

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Lots more to learn.

Welcome to Macintosh!

Denver Dan





On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:51:16 -0400, Jennifer Roane wrote:
> Hi everyone, my name is Jennifer and I just recently bought a MacBook
> Air (last Friday). I made the big switch from PC to Mac and am
> loving it so far. I have so much to learn though!
>
> I think i am learning quickly but sometimes I run into things that I
> am not figuring out and I am also sure that there's a LOT more that I
> can do that I am not aware of.
>
> I'm working with Office Mac 2011 a LOT and was wondering if others
> were familiar with this and could help? My first question is…..when
> I try to save a document - I have a subfolder under Documents for my
> office (I work on my own laptop because my office allows me to
> telecommute a lot!). When in a document I go to "Save As" and then
> my choices are not broken down to allow me to find subfolders under
> the main "Documents" folder. Is there a way to change that so I can
> go to all of the subfolders under "Documents"?
>
> Also….I am used to using the Control + arrow keys to jump from word
> to word in a sentence rather than using just the arrow key and going
> one space at a time. Is there a way to do this? I did find that Cmd
> and arrow left or arrow right will take me to the beginning or end of
> a line but now I just want to figure out how to go word by word. Is
> this possible?
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> Jennifer

Thu Apr 4, 2013 8:34 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jennifer Roane" jenalr

This worked!!! Thank you!

Another thought that crossed my mind was to do a screen shot. I haven't looked through the shortcuts yet - but is the screen shot an easy one, too?

Thanks !

Jennifer

On Apr 4, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> When you use the Save or Save As commands in Mac OS X a dialog box
> appears.
>
> In this dialog box, at the top, is the text field where you type a file
> name. To the right of the text field is a button that looks like a
> little square with a black triangle in it.
>
> Click the black triangle to change the Save or Save As dialog box.
> When the triangle points up the dialog box is in a complete state with
> lots of options for navigating through the Finder's file and folder and
> hard drive structure.
>

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 8:42 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"OBrien" conorboru

On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:33:58 -0400, Jennifer Roane wrote:
> Another thought that crossed my mind was to do a screen shot. I
> haven't looked through the shortcuts yet - but is the screen shot
> an easy one, too?

Screenshot
Partial Screen Shot: Apple-shift-4 (marguee the area)
Whole Screen Shot: Apple-shift-3
Apple-Shift-4 plus the Caps Lock Key down takes a shot of the active window.

I would save the shortcuts text as an text file (.rtf) file and keep it open in TextEdit, then switch to it for reference anytime I need it.


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O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.

Thu Apr 4, 2013 9:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus


On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Jennifer Roane wrote:

> Another thought that crossed my mind was to do a screen shot. I haven't looked through the shortcuts yet - but is the screen shot an easy one, too?

Take a .357 and aim it at your screen and pull the trigger.

Seriously, two best choices are command-shift-3, which will take a picture of the whole screen and command-shift-4, which will allow you to mouse diagonally over what you want to take a picture of.

--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 9:29 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jennifer Roane" jenalr

Okay! Well I like two of those options! :)
When I take the snapshot I hear the snapshot sound but then when I go to paste it into an email I try to paste it but it pasts the most recent text that I copied.

Jennifer

On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

>
> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Jennifer Roane wrote:
>
> > Another thought that crossed my mind was to do a screen shot. I haven't looked through the shortcuts yet - but is the screen shot an easy one, too?
>
> Take a .357 and aim it at your screen and pull the trigger.
>
> Seriously, two best choices are command-shift-3, which will take a picture of the whole screen and command-shift-4, which will allow you to mouse diagonally over what you want to take a picture of.
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net
>
>

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 10:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus


On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Jennifer Roane wrote:

> Okay! Well I like two of those options! :)
> When I take the snapshot I hear the snapshot sound but then when I go to paste it into an email I try to paste it but it pasts the most recent text that I copied.
>
> Jennifer
>
>
How are you trying to paste it into the Email, and with what program are you doing Email? The easiest way is simply to drag the file from your desktop into the Email or use the ATTACH button, assuming you are using Apple�s Mail. Do you see the file on your desktop after you �take the picture�?

> On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:
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> >
> > On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Jennifer Roane wrote:
> >
> > > Another thought that crossed my mind was to do a screen shot. I haven't looked through the shortcuts yet - but is the screen shot an easy one, too?
> >
> > Take a .357 and aim it at your screen and pull the trigger.
> >
> > Seriously, two best choices are command-shift-3, which will take a picture of the whole screen and command-shift-4, which will allow you to mouse diagonally over what you want to take a picture of.
> >
> > --
> > Barry Austern
> > barryaus@fuse.net
> >
> >
>
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>

--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 7:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"hester" drhester_06107


Many Thanks, Otto.

hester
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> Yes. It seems the techie was copying/renaming stuff so he could easily
> revert if required. This didn't happen and you've been using the newer
> version since then. You can confirm this by looking at the dates for your
> "live" Safari.
>
> Of course, you have backups of all this somewhere? ;)
>
> Otto
>
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Thu Apr 4, 2013 8:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jennifer Roane" jenalr

Great guides! Thank you!
I will print these and use them a lot, I am sure. I am hoping that it'll all become second nature, eventually!

Jennifer

On Apr 4, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> And also, here's a list of OS X keyboard shortcuts.
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343>
>
> You can copy/paste this into a file for quick reference, or download my
> version.
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/Keyboard/>
>
> Otto
>
> On 4 April 2013 07:18, Christopher Collins <maclist@analogdigital.com.au>wrote:
>
> > Hi Jennifer,
> >
> > Here is a link to the different keyboard layouts and their equivalent key.
> >
> > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5636?viewlocale=en_US
> >
> > On a MackBook, the Home key is equivalent to fn+, I think!
> >
>

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 8:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

Use Network Utility (standard OSX Utility). Select the "Whois" tab and enter the IP address. This will return the registry listing for that IP. This provides some information, but it is often severely obfuscated. The IPs will be those of the mail servers used, and won't necessarily include the originating IP location. But it's a start.

Cheers,
tod

On Apr 4, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:

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> I am acting as an interlocutor, if you will, between two people, neither of whom speaks the other�s language. The female (whom I know) lives in Austria and speaks Hungarian (mostly).
>
> The male (whom I don�t know) lives in Massachusetts (supposedly) and speaks English (which may or may not be his native language). His email to me was syntactically deficient.
>
> The two met online.
>
> Based on an email response to me, I suspect that the male is not what and who he purports to be. I would like to do some sniffing around.
>
> I use Apple Mail (Version 4.6). I have some familiarity with headers, both open and closed. Is there some way that I can use IP addresses (or other features) to track the location of the male? He says that he lives in Boston, however I am (currently) dubious.
>
> Thanx and greets from Budapest. Oneal
>
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Thu Apr 4, 2013 9:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:

mstupinski

My daughter is trying to access the American Airlines site and log in to the employee/retiree page on her Macbook Pro, but gets rejected. She called AA and they said she must use Internet Explorer for that page. IE is, of course, not available for the MacOS. A response on the Apple Communities section of Apple Support indicates she must go the route of installing Windows via one of the available means and running the Windows version of IE. Needless to say, that's a crazy expense for someone with such a limited need for access.

(BTW, She has already tried, with no success, changing the User Agent under the Develop window in Safari.)

Does anyone know of a way out of this dilemma short of installing Windows?

Thanks,
.................Mike

Thu Apr 4, 2013 9:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue

It might be worth looking into Wine, WinOnX, or CrossOver for Mac
http://www.codeweavers.com/ or similar, which allows some Windows
applications to run *more or less* compatibly.

> stupnski@tiac.net <mailto:stupnski@tiac.net>
> April 4, 2013 9:07 AM
>
> My daughter is trying to access the American Airlines site and log in
> to the employee/retiree page on her Macbook Pro, but gets rejected.
> She called AA and they said she must use Internet Explorer for that
> page. IE is, of course, not available for the MacOS. A response on the
> Apple Communities section of Apple Support indicates she must go the
> route of installing Windows via one of the available means and running
> the Windows version of IE. Needless to say, that's a crazy expense for
> someone with such a limited need for access.
>
> (BTW, She has already tried, with no success, changing the User Agent
> under the Develop window in Safari.)
>
> Does anyone know of a way out of this dilemma short of installing Windows?
>
> Thanks,
> .................Mike
>
>

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 9:56 am (PDT) . Posted by:

cheeky_chas

If you do the following Google search you will find an easier way.

Search:

how to let safari pretend to be internet explorer

Charles.

On 4 Apr 2013, at 17:18, Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@runbox.com> wrote:

> It might be worth looking into Wine, WinOnX, or CrossOver for Mac
> http://www.codeweavers.com/ or similar, which allows some Windows
> applications to run *more or less* compatibly.
>
> > stupnski@tiac.net <mailto:stupnski@tiac.net>
> > April 4, 2013 9:07 AM
> >
> > My daughter is trying to access the American Airlines site and log in
> > to the employee/retiree page on her Macbook Pro, but gets rejected.
> > She called AA and they said she must use Internet Explorer for that
> > page. IE is, of course, not available for the MacOS. A response on the
> > Apple Communities section of Apple Support indicates she must go the
> > route of installing Windows via one of the available means and running
> > the Windows version of IE. Needless to say, that's a crazy expense for
> > someone with such a limited need for access.
> >
> > (BTW, She has already tried, with no success, changing the User Agent
> > under the Develop window in Safari.)
> >
> > Does anyone know of a way out of this dilemma short of installing Windows?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > .................Mike
> >
> >
>
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Thu Apr 4, 2013 10:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Dat be cool. Gotta remember to not fill in forms using this method per it's author. jr

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, ck368@... wrote:
>
> If you do the following Google search you will find an easier way.
>
> Search:
>
> how to let safari pretend to be internet explorer
>
>
> Charles.
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Apr 2013, at 17:18, Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@...> wrote:
>
> > It might be worth looking into Wine, WinOnX, or CrossOver for Mac
> > http://www.codeweavers.com/ or similar, which allows some Windows
> > applications to run *more or less* compatibly.
> >
> > > stupnski@... <mailto:stupnski@...>
> > > April 4, 2013 9:07 AM
> > >
> > > My daughter is trying to access the American Airlines site and log in
> > > to the employee/retiree page on her Macbook Pro, but gets rejected.
> > > She called AA and they said she must use Internet Explorer for that
> > > page. IE is, of course, not available for the MacOS. A response on the
> > > Apple Communities section of Apple Support indicates she must go the
> > > route of installing Windows via one of the available means and running
> > > the Windows version of IE. Needless to say, that's a crazy expense for
> > > someone with such a limited need for access.
> > >
> > > (BTW, She has already tried, with no success, changing the User Agent
> > > under the Develop window in Safari.)
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a way out of this dilemma short of installing Windows?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > .................Mike
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
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Thu Apr 4, 2013 10:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Check out this article on browser that can spoof to be others.

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Web_Browser_Spoofing

On Apr 4, 2013, at 9:07 AM, stupnski@tiac.net wrote:

My daughter is trying to access the American Airlines site and log in to the employee/retiree page on her Macbook Pro, but gets rejected. She called AA and they said she must use Internet Explorer for that page. IE is, of course, not available for the MacOS. A response on the Apple Communities section of Apple Support indicates she must go the route of installing Windows via one of the available means and running the Windows version of IE. Needless to say, that's a crazy expense for someone with such a limited need for access.

(BTW, She has already tried, with no success, changing the User Agent under the Develop window in Safari.)

Does anyone know of a way out of this dilemma short of installing Windows?

Thanks,
.................Mike

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Thu Apr 4, 2013 10:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Chris Randazzo" cdazzo64

Did you give Firefox or Chrome a shot? Both free downloads. The other thing you may want to try is updating flash for Safari. You can get the update at Adobe.com

Chris

On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@runbox.com>
wrote:

> It might be worth looking into Wine, WinOnX, or CrossOver for Mac
> http://www.codeweavers.com/ or similar, which allows some Windows
> applications to run *more or less* compatibly.
>
>> stupnski@tiac.net <mailto:stupnski@tiac.net>
>> April 4, 2013 9:07 AM
>>
>> My daughter is trying to access the American Airlines site and log in
>> to the employee/retiree page on her Macbook Pro, but gets rejected.
>> She called AA and they said she must use Internet Explorer for that
>> page. IE is, of course, not available for the MacOS. A response on the
>> Apple Communities section of Apple Support indicates she must go the
>> route of installing Windows via one of the available means and running
>> the Windows version of IE. Needless to say, that's a crazy expense for
>> someone with such a limited need for access.
>>
>> (BTW, She has already tried, with no success, changing the User Agent
>> under the Develop window in Safari.)
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way out of this dilemma short of installing Windows?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> .................Mike
>>
>>
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