4/18/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9498

14 New Messages

Digest #9498
1a
Hidden system software updates by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
1c
Re: Hidden system software updates by "Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue
1d
Re: Hidden system software updates by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
1f
Re: Hidden system software updates by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
1h
Re: Hidden system software updates by "Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
3a
3b
Re: CNN videos not playing by "Dave C" davec2468
3c
4a
Re: Match? by "Doris" untoldexpressions
4b
Re: Match? by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Messages

Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Yesterday Apple released Java and Safari updates. I choose to ignore the iTunes 11 update, but did not realize that all system software updates are hidden within this one Software Update. I looked several times yesterday for some way to download this update. I now have to manually open the Update note to see any updates along with the iTunes 11 update.

Just sayin'

Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Hal,

Apparently I am missing something here. Are you trying to say that either or both of Java and Safari updates are forcing a upgrade of iTunes to v 11?

If so, where are you seeing this, because a quick looking at the detail web pages does not seem to indicate this.

Brent

On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:02 AM, HAL9000 wrote:

Yesterday Apple released Java and Safari updates. I choose to ignore the iTunes 11 update, but did not realize that all system software updates are hidden within this one Software Update. I looked several times yesterday for some way to download this update. I now have to manually open the Update note to see any updates along with the iTunes 11 update.

Just sayin'

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue

Did you click the "More" link? Doing so reveals the additional updates,
and the option to update any, all or none of them.

> HAL9000 <mailto:jrswebhome@yahoo.com>
> April 17, 2013 8:02 AM
>
> Yesterday Apple released Java and Safari updates. I choose to ignore
> the iTunes 11 update, but did not realize that all system software
> updates are hidden within this one Software Update. I looked several
> times yesterday for some way to download this update. I now have to
> manually open the Update note to see any updates along with the iTunes
> 11 update.
>
> Just sayin'
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

That was what I realized. Now I must click MORE to see all updates, because I choose not to update iTunes.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@...> wrote:
>
> Did you click the "More" link? Doing so reveals the additional updates,
> and the option to update any, all or none of them.
>
> > HAL9000 <mailto:jrswebhome@...>
> > April 17, 2013 8:02 AM
> >
> > Yesterday Apple released Java and Safari updates. I choose to ignore
> > the iTunes 11 update, but did not realize that all system software
> > updates are hidden within this one Software Update. I looked several
> > times yesterday for some way to download this update. I now have to
> > manually open the Update note to see any updates along with the iTunes
> > 11 update.
> >
> > Just sayin'
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

I'm still missing something. Where is this "More" link?

On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:

Did you click the "More" link? Doing so reveals the additional updates,
and the option to update any, all or none of them.

> HAL9000 <mailto:jrswebhome@yahoo.com>
> April 17, 2013 8:02 AM
>
> Yesterday Apple released Java and Safari updates. I choose to ignore
> the iTunes 11 update, but did not realize that all system software
> updates are hidden within this one Software Update. I looked several
> times yesterday for some way to download this update. I now have to
> manually open the Update note to see any updates along with the iTunes
> 11 update.
>
> Just sayin'
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

It's on the App Store write up regarding the update available & is at the bottom of the wording. When you click it, you will see the various updates available with individual "update" buttons.

On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:33 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm still missing something. Where is this "More" link?
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>
> Did you click the "More" link? Doing so reveals the additional updates,
> and the option to update any, all or none of them.
>
>> HAL9000 <mailto:jrswebhome@yahoo.com>
>> April 17, 2013 8:02 AM
>>
>> Yesterday Apple released Java and Safari updates. I choose to ignore
>> the iTunes 11 update, but did not realize that all system software
>> updates are hidden within this one Software Update. I looked several
>> times yesterday for some way to download this update. I now have to
>> manually open the Update note to see any updates along with the iTunes
>> 11 update.
>>
>> Just sayin'
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Pat,

Hal asked about Software Update, not the (Mac) App Store.

Java and Safari updates do no appear in the (Mac) App Store, at least not in 10.7.5.

Hal,

Are you speaking of something in the (Mac) App Store, in 10.8?

Brent

On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Pat Taylor wrote:

It's on the App Store write up regarding the update available & is at the bottom of the wording. When you click it, you will see the various updates available with individual "update" buttons.

On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:33 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm still missing something. Where is this "More" link?
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>
> Did you click the "More" link? Doing so reveals the additional updates,
> and the option to update any, all or none of them.
>
>> HAL9000 <mailto:jrswebhome@yahoo.com>
>> April 17, 2013 8:02 AM
>>
>> Yesterday Apple released Java and Safari updates. I choose to ignore
>> the iTunes 11 update, but did not realize that all system software
>> updates are hidden within this one Software Update. I looked several
>> times yesterday for some way to download this update. I now have to
>> manually open the Update note to see any updates along with the iTunes
>> 11 update.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:43 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

On 18/04/13 06:35, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Pat,
>
> Hal asked about Software Update, not the (Mac) App Store.
>
> Java and Safari updates do no appear in the (Mac) App Store, at least not in 10.7.5.

They do in 10.8 "Software Update" actually opens the Mac App Store.

>
>
> Hal,
>
> Are you speaking of something in the (Mac) App Store, in 10.8?
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Pat Taylor wrote:
>
> It's on the App Store write up regarding the update available & is at the bottom of the wording. When you click it, you will see the various updates available with individual "update" buttons.
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:33 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm still missing something. Where is this "More" link?
>>
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>>
>> Did you click the "More" link? Doing so reveals the additional updates,
>> and the option to update any, all or none of them.
>>
>>> HAL9000 <mailto:jrswebhome@yahoo.com>
>>> April 17, 2013 8:02 AM
>>>
>>> Yesterday Apple released Java and Safari updates. I choose to ignore
>>> the iTunes 11 update, but did not realize that all system software
>>> updates are hidden within this one Software Update. I looked several
>>> times yesterday for some way to download this update. I now have to
>>> manually open the Update note to see any updates along with the iTunes
>>> 11 update.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"halfhoff" halfhoff

Thanks all.

I did by a USB 3.0 enclosure for the old drive to use as an external drive.

I guess cloning is the way to go.

I keep a copy of my hard drive at my work in case my computer and back up drive gets stolen or damaged somehow.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > I want to do two things. (1) Replace the 500 GB 5400 platter drive with the 1 TB SSHD; and (2) Replace the 1 TB USB 3.0 external drive with a 2 TB USB 3.0 external drive to use on Time Machine (because my main drive will now be 1 TB).
> >
> > So what is the best way of doing that? Should I clone my current drive and then copy the clone to the new drive? Can I do that if I have a 500 GB single partition drive and I am moving to a 1 TB single partition drive?
>
> What do you plan to do with the old, 5400 RPM drive? You could get an external case and plan to put the 5400 in it as a spare drive.
>
> If you plan to do that, then temporarily put the SSHD in the case, and clone the present internal drive to the SSHD directly. Yes, you can clone TO any drive with more space than the data you have to copy.
>
> Also, with future backups, remember that amount of space you need depends on the amount of data you have to back up, and not necessarily the overall physical size of the drive being backed up.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@...
>

Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Eric" emanmb

Depending on where you live and time of day, I've found that sites can misbehave. Since I live 12 hours ahead of CDT, I frequently find sites that won't load or are missing tons of content, or load very slowly. These can include totally innocuous sites like Spamcop.

I attribute it to either site maintenance, or content controlled by IP location, or Thailand's Ministry of Information and Communication Technology who, among other things, censors what you can access here. Wikileaks page- <http://tinyurl.com/d8m64ce>

Sites like Hulu and many others aren't allowed to be viewed outside the US for copyright reasons. There is an ad-on for Firefox which can trick those sites and allow you to view them and I use it. You can get it here or through the Firefox Ad-On manager. https://mediahint.com/

Your supplied link has spaces thanks to Yahoo Groups, so clicking on the link (in Safari) takes me to <http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4> which is not the video you're looking for I think. That page then takes quite a while to load. The link then becomes <http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4#/video/world/2009/03/18/robertson.iraq.medical.break.cnn> and then plays. Go figger eh? Going through the supplied URL and deleting those spaces ends up with the same result.

Pasting the URL into Firefox with the MediaHint ad-on employed, the video and URL work as they should.
Worst case scenario, if under a repressive government or governing body, you can go the VPN route which will cost money to do so. Tor browser can accomplish nearly the same thing but in the process of protecting you, it disables flash and other things so you'll miss out on a lot of content even though you'll have access to the site. This can be tweaked in the prefs to allow flash, but then you won't be as anonymous.

Eric
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Daly Jessup <jessup@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Dave C <davec2468@> wrote:
>
> >> http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4#/video/bestoftv/2013/04/15/moos-pkg-thief-swallows-ring.cnn
> >>
> >> the adverts play just fine but when the news content video follows it it's just a black screen, no controls or time.
> >>
> >> Same with Safari and Firefox.
> >>
> >> What's your experience?
>
> That's my experience, too.
>
> Daly
>

Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

> Your supplied link has spaces thanks to Yahoo Groups, so clicking on the link (in Safari) takes me to <http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4> which is not the video you're looking for I think. That page then takes quite a while to load. The link then becomes <http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4#/video/world/2009/03/18/robertson.iraq.medical.break.cnn> and then plays. Go figger eh? Going through the supplied URL and deleting those spaces ends up with the same result.
>
> Pasting the URL into Firefox with the MediaHint ad-on employed, the video and URL work as they should.
> Worst case scenario, if under a repressive government or governing body, you can go the VPN route which will cost money to do so. Tor browser can accomplish nearly the same thing but in the process of protecting you, it disables flash and other things so you'll miss out on a lot of content even though you'll have access to the site. This can be tweaked in the prefs to allow flash, but then you won't be as anonymous.
>
> Eric

-=-=-=-

I have found that the ClickToPlugin add-on for Safari is causing my problems with CNN.com videos:

http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/support.xhtml

Scroll down to the section "Solutions to common issues" and to the first question: "I found a web page that does not work with ClickToPlugin enabled, but does when ClickToPlugin is disabled. Surely there is a bug in ClickToPlugin!"

There are solutions to this issue.

Thanks,
Dave

Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Eric" emanmb

Ahh there's an ad-on I haven't tried and seems like it would be useful for laptops.
Hopefully you can switch it off easily when you need to.
e

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Dave C <davec2468@...> wrote:
>
> I have found that the ClickToPlugin add-on for Safari is causing my problems with CNN.com videos:
>
> http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/support.xhtml
>
> Scroll down to the section "Solutions to common issues" and to the first question: "I found a web page that does not work with ClickToPlugin enabled, but does when ClickToPlugin is disabled. Surely there is a bug in ClickToPlugin!"
>
> There are solutions to this issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
> > Your supplied link has spaces thanks to Yahoo Groups, so clicking on the link (in Safari) takes me to <http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4> which is not the video you're looking for I think. That page then takes quite a while to load. The link then becomes <http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4#/video/world/2009/03/18/robertson.iraq.medical.break.cnn> and then plays. Go figger eh? Going through the supplied URL and deleting those spaces ends up with the same result.
> >
> > Pasting the URL into Firefox with the MediaHint ad-on employed, the video and URL work as they should.
> > Worst case scenario, if under a repressive government or governing body, you can go the VPN route which will cost money to do so. Tor browser can accomplish nearly the same thing but in the process of protecting you, it disables flash and other things so you'll miss out on a lot of content even though you'll have access to the site. This can be tweaked in the prefs to allow flash, but then you won't be as anonymous.
> >
> > Eric
>
> -=-=-=-

Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Doris" untoldexpressions

The problem is I don't know how it works. It shows some of my music - some
of them are shown as not on the cloud (the icon with a mark through it),
some have the cloud icon (which appears to be a dotted llne cloud, not a
solid line) and others have nothing.

How can I tell if there is a actual copy occupying space on my computer or
if it is in the cloud only.

Thanks,
Doris

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Pat Taylor <pat412@mac.com> wrote:

> Did you click Store in the iTunes menu bar to select Turn on iTunes Match?
>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Doris <untoldexpressions@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Okay, I subscribed to Match so I could have my previously purchased CDs
> on
> > iCloud but haven't the faintest idea how to use it. Can somebody help me
> > get started.
> >
> > I don't want the music on my computer because it already has too much
> stuff
> > on it.
> >
> > Thanks so much,
> >
> > Doris
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:59 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Doris,

Have you read Apple's description of how it works?
<http://bit.ly/11kV9XA>

Otto

On 18 April 2013 06:25, Doris <untoldexpressions@gmail.com> wrote:

> The problem is I don't know how it works. It shows some of my music - some
> of them are shown as not on the cloud (the icon with a mark through it),
> some have the cloud icon (which appears to be a dotted llne cloud, not a
> solid line) and others have nothing.
>
> How can I tell if there is a actual copy occupying space on my computer or
> if it is in the cloud only.
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

GROUP FOOTER MESSAGE
Posted by at