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Of the Mac/Windows Genealogy/Family Tree software what do people pre by "Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll
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Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:20 am (PST) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
I've used Macs and PCs for over 20 years. I work in the creative industry. I respectfully disagree.
On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> 1. Macs are very commonly seen on TV, both in fiction and fact-based
> programmes;
Okay, I certainly agree with that. Us creative types love them. Macs have been a staple of our industry from the beginning.
>
> 2. Macs are still very popular in the creative industries;
Still agree.
> 3. There is a common perception that Mac owners are smug about their choice
> of computer;
"Smug"? Well, aren't you? I am, but I temper this with the knowledge that I have Macs because I can afford to. Or more precisely, my employers can. I've never purchase a Mac directly. I could not afford to. But I can certainly see why others might see my Mac promotion as smug.
>
> 4. Thanks to iPod/iPhone/iPad, there are now more Apple-haters than ever
> before;
Do you have a citation for this? I don't see it. I would also point out that "Apple-haters" and "Mac haters" do not equate any more than Microsoft haters and Windows haters does. I've met quite a few Mac "lovers" who are also "Apple "haters." Actually, I've never met a Windows user who "hates" Apple, unless you count resentment of Apples higher prices as "hatred."
>
> 5. Many hackers aren't interested in making money, just in the kudos of
> being the first to do something;
Such people still exist, but these are not the dangerous ones. Hacking and malware is now primarily institutional, controlled by organized crime, national governments, and anarchists (like "Anonymous"). These people are intent on either (a) stealing your money or (b) doing very, very serious harm to corporations and governments. And most of those looking for "kudos" now work on the side of "good" because if you are intent on harm, it's a really bad idea to be public about it.
Cheers,
tod
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On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> 1. Macs are very commonly seen on TV, both in fiction and fact-based
> programmes;
Okay, I certainly agree with that. Us creative types love them. Macs have been a staple of our industry from the beginning.
>
> 2. Macs are still very popular in the creative industries;
Still agree.
> 3. There is a common perception that Mac owners are smug about their choice
> of computer;
"Smug"
>
> 4. Thanks to iPod/iPhone/
> before;
Do you have a citation for this? I don't see it. I would also point out that "Apple-
>
> 5. Many hackers aren't interested in making money, just in the kudos of
> being the first to do something;
Such people still exist, but these are not the dangerous ones. Hacking and malware is now primarily institutional, controlled by organized crime, national governments, and anarchists (like "Anonymous&quo
Cheers,
tod
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Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:34 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Guy Kudlemyer" truckersroost
> If you are referring simply to being about the READ the disc, there is no
> difference between the formats for PPC and Intel Macs. If you are talking
> about being able to run a program on it then it is a different story.
>
> Indeed. I'm sure you can look at the contents using Finder and copy any
> folders/files from it. What is it?
Here¹s what it says on the CD enclosure:
³This e-book is an executable file. Simply insert the disc into the drive on
any computer with autorun functions and the program will load for your use.²
How do I get my PPC Mac to have autorun functions? Can I download an ap that
will accomplish this?
Thanks for any further help!
____________
GUY KUDLEMYER
Thurston, OR
Mac OSX
I maintain zero tolerance for Zero Tolerance Policies
WAYLON FOREVER
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Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:30 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 07/03/13 14:34, Guy Kudlemyer wrote:
>
>> If you are referring simply to being about the READ the disc, there is no
>> difference between the formats for PPC and Intel Macs. If you are talking
>> about being able to run a program on it then it is a different story.
>>
>> Indeed. I'm sure you can look at the contents using Finder and copy any
>> folders/files from it. What is it?
>
> Here¹s what it says on the CD enclosure:
> ³This e-book is an executable file. Simply insert the disc into the drive on
> any computer with autorun functions and the program will load for your use.²
>
> How do I get my PPC Mac to have autorun functions? Can I download an ap that
> will accomplish this?
If it was going to work, it would have already I think. My guess is the
executable is only for Intel macs, not PPC. There is, AFAIK, no way to
run Intel code on a PPC Mac. I think your only options are 1) Get who
ever you got the disc from to provide a PPC version. Probably not an
option as if they still supported PPC the disc would presumably already
be a universal binary disk. 2) Find a Intel mac to run it on ...
>
> Thanks for any further help!
>
> _________________________________________
>
> GUY KUDLEMYER
> Thurston, OR
> Mac OSX
> I maintain zero tolerance for Zero Tolerance Policies
>
>
> WAYLON FOREVER
>
>
>
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>> If you are referring simply to being about the READ the disc, there is no
>> difference between the formats for PPC and Intel Macs. If you are talking
>> about being able to run a program on it then it is a different story.
>>
>> Indeed. I'm sure you can look at the contents using Finder and copy any
>> folders/files from it. What is it?
>
> Here¹s what it says on the CD enclosure:
> ³This e-book is an executable file. Simply insert the disc into the drive on
> any computer with autorun functions and the program will load for your use.²
>
> How do I get my PPC Mac to have autorun functions? Can I download an ap that
> will accomplish this?
If it was going to work, it would have already I think. My guess is the
executable is only for Intel macs, not PPC. There is, AFAIK, no way to
run Intel code on a PPC Mac. I think your only options are 1) Get who
ever you got the disc from to provide a PPC version. Probably not an
option as if they still supported PPC the disc would presumably already
be a universal binary disk. 2) Find a Intel mac to run it on ...
>
> Thanks for any further help!
>
> ____________
>
> GUY KUDLEMYER
> Thurston, OR
> Mac OSX
> I maintain zero tolerance for Zero Tolerance Policies
>
>
> WAYLON FOREVER
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:50 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Here¹s what it says on the CD enclosure:
> ³This e-book is an executable file. Simply insert the disc into the drive on any computer with autorun functions and the program will load for your use.²
>
> How do I get my PPC Mac to have autorun functions? Can I download an ap that will accomplish this?
The "real-world" translation of that phrasing is "we only intended this e-book to be read on a Windows computer".
> ³This e-book is an executable file. Simply insert the disc into the drive on any computer with autorun functions and the program will load for your use.²
>
> How do I get my PPC Mac to have autorun functions? Can I download an ap that will accomplish this?
The "real-world&qu
Thu Mar 7, 2013 10:41 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Guy Kudlemyer wrote:
> > If you are referring simply to being about the READ the disc, there is no
> > difference between the formats for PPC and Intel Macs. If you are talking
> > about being able to run a program on it then it is a different story.
> >
> > Indeed. I'm sure you can look at the contents using Finder and copy any
> > folders/files from it. What is it?
>
> Here's what it says on the CD enclosure:
> "This e-book is an executable file. Simply insert the disc into the drive on
> any computer with autorun functions and the program will load for your use."
>
> How do I get my PPC Mac to have autorun functions? Can I download an ap that
> will accomplish this?
>
> Thanks for any further help!
Sounds then like a Windoze .EXE file, which will not run on any Mac. If, perchance, but unlikely, it is a .PDF file then drag it onto either Adobe Reader or Preview and see if it works.
At least now we have established that it is not a problem reading the disc, but of USING it. Your initial query was confusing.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
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Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:09 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll
Reunion is getting a good rep from a few members.
My mom uses Family Tree Maker and it is hideous software klunky at
Data Entry and editing, and unpleasant, and ugly reports. Some
versions of the software ares so bad when they attempt to "improve" it
you must choose which version to run carefully, usually not the
latest. Ideally I would like to switch her to Reunion or something
that runs on Windows and Mac and is elegant to enter into, and prints
gorgeous reports.
My mom uses Family Tree Maker and it is hideous software klunky at
Data Entry and editing, and unpleasant, and ugly reports. Some
versions of the software ares so bad when they attempt to "improve" it
you must choose which version to run carefully, usually not the
latest. Ideally I would like to switch her to Reunion or something
that runs on Windows and Mac and is elegant to enter into, and prints
gorgeous reports.
Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:28 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Smith" jimmacsmith
On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:47 PM, James Robertson wrote:
>
>> Good thought! Of course, if you'd ever seen the snake pit where my power bricks, networking hardware, and cables embrace each other behind my desk, you'd never have issued that challenge :-)
>
> That reminds me of a brilliant tip for keeping cables organized that I've been wanting to share! If, like me, you have a large collection of bread bag closures, this tip can be implemented essentially for free. See:
>
> http://is.gd/
>
> http://is.gd/
>
Have found a source to purchase some of these "tags"
http://www.supplypl
Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.
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Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:48 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Dan" live2av8
I have a total of 6GB, 2GB & 4GB modules. That's more than Apple recommends, I had these same modules in when running 10.6.8, and no RAM issues.
I recently removed the 4GB module, no difference, laptop still wouldn't startup.
Thanks for responding.
Dan
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> Helps if you list your RAM installed.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Dan" <live2av8@> wrote:
> >
> > I've been a member of the list for years but don't even qualify for lurker status. The Apple products have been working quite well, until recently that is.
> > I searched the archives of messages but couldn't quite find what I was looking for. Maybe I just didn't type the right search phrase.
> >
> > Have an early 2007 (model 3,1 link to model) MacBook Pro. Nearly 2 months ago I upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.8.2. Only problem I noticed was after start or restart in the process of starting up again the dark grey apple and spinning segmented circle would appear, but after that the display would go very dim, could just barely see the desktop. I would close the lid, open it again and all was well. Laptop & display would work fine thereafter.
> >
> > Starting a couple weeks ago the display would suddenly begin a rapid flickering and all controls were ineffective. Once it began the only thing I could do to get out of it was forcibly shut it down, then restart. This might happen 3 times a day, or go 2 days without it happening and the laptop working fine.
> > On 2 occasions upon restarting I copied the file (and saved it elsewhere) that would normally be sent to Apple. Also saved 1 of the Console reports. I'm not certain how to decipher the 3 of them. One begins with cpu 1 along with Kernel trap, another cpu 0 with Kernel trap.
> >
> > Twice I've installed what I believe is the correct Apple Service Diagnostic disk and ran a full test. All tests passed except both times it failed the hard drive test, indicating no S.M.A.R.T. status available, and it wouldn't test the memory either time, it would just hang for nearly an hour. Both times I had to restart and bypass that test. According to Disk Utility S.M.A.R.T. status is verified for the disk. After 3 startups I checked system profiler, it always indicated that upon startup memory passed.
> >
> > Then several day ago I had to forcibly shut it down once again, upon restart no display. Tried restarting several times, sometimes I would get the startup chime, other times not. After each restart no display, not even a dimmed display. Then I thought how about a PRAM reset. So I held down command-option-p-r for several startup tones. Possibly a bad move. Now I don't get startup tone at all. It sounds like the hard drive or a fan is spinning. The sleep indicator light is on dimly and steady.
> >
> > The ASD disk is still in the drive, can't eject it.
> >
> > The power supply is working fine, seems to be plenty of power to the laptop, amber light is on until the battery is charged. Both batteries I've tried show all green lights.
> >
> > Any hints or opinions on what I should try next? Certain key strokes, or tests I can run to find out if the laptop actually died?
> > No smoke or flame from the laptop......yet! Maybe it's repairable.
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
>
I recently removed the 4GB module, no difference, laptop still wouldn't startup.
Thanks for responding.
Dan
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Helps if you list your RAM installed.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > I've been a member of the list for years but don't even qualify for lurker status. The Apple products have been working quite well, until recently that is.
> > I searched the archives of messages but couldn't quite find what I was looking for. Maybe I just didn't type the right search phrase.
> >
> > Have an early 2007 (model 3,1 link to model) MacBook Pro. Nearly 2 months ago I upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.8.2. Only problem I noticed was after start or restart in the process of starting up again the dark grey apple and spinning segmented circle would appear, but after that the display would go very dim, could just barely see the desktop. I would close the lid, open it again and all was well. Laptop & display would work fine thereafter.
> >
> > Starting a couple weeks ago the display would suddenly begin a rapid flickering and all controls were ineffective. Once it began the only thing I could do to get out of it was forcibly shut it down, then restart. This might happen 3 times a day, or go 2 days without it happening and the laptop working fine.
> > On 2 occasions upon restarting I copied the file (and saved it elsewhere) that would normally be sent to Apple. Also saved 1 of the Console reports. I'm not certain how to decipher the 3 of them. One begins with cpu 1 along with Kernel trap, another cpu 0 with Kernel trap.
> >
> > Twice I've installed what I believe is the correct Apple Service Diagnostic disk and ran a full test. All tests passed except both times it failed the hard drive test, indicating no S.M.A.R.T. status available, and it wouldn't test the memory either time, it would just hang for nearly an hour. Both times I had to restart and bypass that test. According to Disk Utility S.M.A.R.T. status is verified for the disk. After 3 startups I checked system profiler, it always indicated that upon startup memory passed.
> >
> > Then several day ago I had to forcibly shut it down once again, upon restart no display. Tried restarting several times, sometimes I would get the startup chime, other times not. After each restart no display, not even a dimmed display. Then I thought how about a PRAM reset. So I held down command-option-
> >
> > The ASD disk is still in the drive, can't eject it.
> >
> > The power supply is working fine, seems to be plenty of power to the laptop, amber light is on until the battery is charged. Both batteries I've tried show all green lights.
> >
> > Any hints or opinions on what I should try next? Certain key strokes, or tests I can run to find out if the laptop actually died?
> > No smoke or flame from the laptop......
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
>
Thu Mar 7, 2013 11:54 am (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Dan, at this point it sounds like you will have to send it in for repairs. Figure it will cost between $400 and $500 dollars, or you can put that money towards a new MBP. Since you are using a 2007, I suppose your budget is tight like mine.
From your description, it sounded at first that it was heat related. Not starting at all sounds like it has gotten to the point of no return without hands on technical support.
My guess is that there is a bad solder joint, bad trace or failed component. At 5 plus years, that is a definite possibility.
My 2008 MBP exhibited similar issues after AppleCare ran out. I took it in for a diagnosis and estimate. In my case it was the video board which is either part of, or soldered to, the logic board. Apple has a flat fee repair charge of $360 (?), but normally with older models (out of AppleCare), they keep limited parts at the retail Apple Stores.
A couple of suggestions, try backing up the hard drive either by using Target Mode or by physically removing the HD and installing it in a external dock or case to back up or clone. If not, I believe Apple offers a service to move it over, but with no guarantee, for a fee.
Since you upgraded to 10.8 within the last 90 days, I believe you are covered by AppleCare for the OS upgrade for 90 days. To speed up the process at the Apple Store, call AppleCare and have them trouble shoot it, and then they will tell you your options. One of which is to set up an appointment at the local (I hope local) retail Apple Store. The Genius' will still run a few diagnostics, and then tell you if they can fix it locally (I was lucky they had gotten in one of the few logic boards into stock) or the second is to send it in to a repair center.
Good luck,
Brent
On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Dan wrote:
I have a total of 6GB, 2GB & 4GB modules. That's more than Apple recommends, I had these same modules in when running 10.6.8, and no RAM issues.
I recently removed the 4GB module, no difference, laptop still wouldn't startup.
Thanks for responding.
Dan
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> Helps if you list your RAM installed.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Dan" <live2av8@> wrote:
> >
> > I've been a member of the list for years but don't even qualify for lurker status. The Apple products have been working quite well, until recently that is.
> > I searched the archives of messages but couldn't quite find what I was looking for. Maybe I just didn't type the right search phrase.
> >
> > Have an early 2007 (model 3,1 link to model) MacBook Pro. Nearly 2 months ago I upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.8.2. Only problem I noticed was after start or restart in the process of starting up again the dark grey apple and spinning segmented circle would appear, but after that the display would go very dim, could just barely see the desktop. I would close the lid, open it again and all was well. Laptop & display would work fine thereafter.
> >
> > Starting a couple weeks ago the display would suddenly begin a rapid flickering and all controls were ineffective. Once it began the only thing I could do to get out of it was forcibly shut it down, then restart. This might happen 3 times a day, or go 2 days without it happening and the laptop working fine.
> > On 2 occasions upon restarting I copied the file (and saved it elsewhere) that would normally be sent to Apple. Also saved 1 of the Console reports. I'm not certain how to decipher the 3 of them. One begins with cpu 1 along with Kernel trap, another cpu 0 with Kernel trap.
> >
> > Twice I've installed what I believe is the correct Apple Service Diagnostic disk and ran a full test. All tests passed except both times it failed the hard drive test, indicating no S.M.A.R.T. status available, and it wouldn't test the memory either time, it would just hang for nearly an hour. Both times I had to restart and bypass that test. According to Disk Utility S.M.A.R.T. status is verified for the disk. After 3 startups I checked system profiler, it always indicated that upon startup memory passed.
> >
> > Then several day ago I had to forcibly shut it down once again, upon restart no display. Tried restarting several times, sometimes I would get the startup chime, other times not. After each restart no display, not even a dimmed display. Then I thought how about a PRAM reset. So I held down command-option-p-r for several startup tones. Possibly a bad move. Now I don't get startup tone at all. It sounds like the hard drive or a fan is spinning. The sleep indicator light is on dimly and steady.
> >
> > The ASD disk is still in the drive, can't eject it.
> >
> > The power supply is working fine, seems to be plenty of power to the laptop, amber light is on until the battery is charged. Both batteries I've tried show all green lights.
> >
> > Any hints or opinions on what I should try next? Certain key strokes, or tests I can run to find out if the laptop actually died?
> > No smoke or flame from the laptop......yet! Maybe it's repairable.
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
>
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From your description, it sounded at first that it was heat related. Not starting at all sounds like it has gotten to the point of no return without hands on technical support.
My guess is that there is a bad solder joint, bad trace or failed component. At 5 plus years, that is a definite possibility.
My 2008 MBP exhibited similar issues after AppleCare ran out. I took it in for a diagnosis and estimate. In my case it was the video board which is either part of, or soldered to, the logic board. Apple has a flat fee repair charge of $360 (?), but normally with older models (out of AppleCare), they keep limited parts at the retail Apple Stores.
A couple of suggestions, try backing up the hard drive either by using Target Mode or by physically removing the HD and installing it in a external dock or case to back up or clone. If not, I believe Apple offers a service to move it over, but with no guarantee, for a fee.
Since you upgraded to 10.8 within the last 90 days, I believe you are covered by AppleCare for the OS upgrade for 90 days. To speed up the process at the Apple Store, call AppleCare and have them trouble shoot it, and then they will tell you your options. One of which is to set up an appointment at the local (I hope local) retail Apple Store. The Genius' will still run a few diagnostics, and then tell you if they can fix it locally (I was lucky they had gotten in one of the few logic boards into stock) or the second is to send it in to a repair center.
Good luck,
Brent
On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Dan wrote:
I have a total of 6GB, 2GB & 4GB modules. That's more than Apple recommends, I had these same modules in when running 10.6.8, and no RAM issues.
I recently removed the 4GB module, no difference, laptop still wouldn't startup.
Thanks for responding.
Dan
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Helps if you list your RAM installed.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > I've been a member of the list for years but don't even qualify for lurker status. The Apple products have been working quite well, until recently that is.
> > I searched the archives of messages but couldn't quite find what I was looking for. Maybe I just didn't type the right search phrase.
> >
> > Have an early 2007 (model 3,1 link to model) MacBook Pro. Nearly 2 months ago I upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.8.2. Only problem I noticed was after start or restart in the process of starting up again the dark grey apple and spinning segmented circle would appear, but after that the display would go very dim, could just barely see the desktop. I would close the lid, open it again and all was well. Laptop & display would work fine thereafter.
> >
> > Starting a couple weeks ago the display would suddenly begin a rapid flickering and all controls were ineffective. Once it began the only thing I could do to get out of it was forcibly shut it down, then restart. This might happen 3 times a day, or go 2 days without it happening and the laptop working fine.
> > On 2 occasions upon restarting I copied the file (and saved it elsewhere) that would normally be sent to Apple. Also saved 1 of the Console reports. I'm not certain how to decipher the 3 of them. One begins with cpu 1 along with Kernel trap, another cpu 0 with Kernel trap.
> >
> > Twice I've installed what I believe is the correct Apple Service Diagnostic disk and ran a full test. All tests passed except both times it failed the hard drive test, indicating no S.M.A.R.T. status available, and it wouldn't test the memory either time, it would just hang for nearly an hour. Both times I had to restart and bypass that test. According to Disk Utility S.M.A.R.T. status is verified for the disk. After 3 startups I checked system profiler, it always indicated that upon startup memory passed.
> >
> > Then several day ago I had to forcibly shut it down once again, upon restart no display. Tried restarting several times, sometimes I would get the startup chime, other times not. After each restart no display, not even a dimmed display. Then I thought how about a PRAM reset. So I held down command-option-
> >
> > The ASD disk is still in the drive, can't eject it.
> >
> > The power supply is working fine, seems to be plenty of power to the laptop, amber light is on until the battery is charged. Both batteries I've tried show all green lights.
> >
> > Any hints or opinions on what I should try next? Certain key strokes, or tests I can run to find out if the laptop actually died?
> > No smoke or flame from the laptop......
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
>
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Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:58 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Dan, at this point it sounds like you will have to send it in for repairs. Figure it will cost between $400 and $500 dollars, or you can put that money towards a new MBP. Since you are using a 2007, I suppose your budget is tight like mine.
Best bet for a budget is a late-model used MBPro, or a "new" year-old model.
You can get a 2012 13" model for $1100.
<http://lowendmac.com/deals/best-macbook-pro-13-prices.html >
Through its refurbished store, Apple sells 15" models as "low" as $1,529.00 will full warranty, and Applecare available:
<http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_pro/15 >
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
Best bet for a budget is a late-model used MBPro, or a "new" year-old model.
You can get a 2012 13" model for $1100.
<http://lowendmac.
Through its refurbished store, Apple sells 15" models as "low" as $1,529.00 will full warranty, and Applecare available:
<http://store.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Thu Mar 7, 2013 11:42 am (PST) . Posted by:
"missladybee" missladybee
My computer does not have an install app package file. It was purchased with 10.8 already preinstalled. I do not own any previous install disks and have not purchased or downloaded any versions through the iTunes store.
Even though I have nothing to work with, is it still possible for me to create or obtain a thumb drive backup?
Barbara
27" iMac 10.8.2
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> All you need is the Mountain Lion installer file/app and a DVD disc.
>
> The Mountain Lion installer app is a "package" file. This means you
> can open the package file and use a disk image file that is included
> and use your current Disk Utility and you can burn a new DVD Mountain
> Lion installer disc.
>
> To access any package file's contents do a right click (or Control left
> click) on the Installer file and then pick Show Package Contents from
> the contextual menu that pops up.
>
> Then navigate down in the package file and open Contents folder and
> find the SharedSupport folder.
>
> Inside SharedSupport is InstallESD.dmg file. This is a disk image
> file.
>
> Keep this disk image file handy.
>
> Then launch Disk Utility.
>
> If you have never used Disk Utility to burn a disk image file to a DVD
> disc, I recommend you use the Help feature in Disk Utility so you will
> have the steps set out to follow.
>
> Access the Disk Utility Help menu and start Disk Utility Help.
>
> Click Duplicate a disk, CD, or DVD then pick Create a Disk Image. Find
> the appropriate section and following the steps.
>
> If you have not dealt with disk images before this, not the there are
> two confusing parts of a Disk Image File. 1) is the Disk Image file
> itself which ends in the extension .dmg, 2) when the disk image file
> is double-clicked a 2nd file is produced and this 2nd file is
> confusingly called the Disk Image (not the Disk Image File).
>
> The Disk Image (the 2nd part) is a great computer trick. Your Mac
> thinks this file is a disc that has been inserted. You can install
> from it but your can also burn it to a DVD that will boot your Mac for
> installing the OS.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:28:13 -0800, Earle Jones wrote:
> > Is there any way to create a DVD or better yet, a flash drive (thumb
> > drive), by using something like Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer the
> > system files from my primary HD to the flash drive?
> >
> > My primary drive (1 TB) has almost 300 GB total data. I don't want a
> > complete clone.
> >
> > But how do I extract only the system files necessary to create a boot drive?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance!
> >
> > earle
> > *
> > _______________________
> > Earle Jones
>
Even though I have nothing to work with, is it still possible for me to create or obtain a thumb drive backup?
Barbara
27" iMac 10.8.2
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Howdy.
>
> All you need is the Mountain Lion installer file/app and a DVD disc.
>
> The Mountain Lion installer app is a "package" file. This means you
> can open the package file and use a disk image file that is included
> and use your current Disk Utility and you can burn a new DVD Mountain
> Lion installer disc.
>
> To access any package file's contents do a right click (or Control left
> click) on the Installer file and then pick Show Package Contents from
> the contextual menu that pops up.
>
> Then navigate down in the package file and open Contents folder and
> find the SharedSupport folder.
>
> Inside SharedSupport is InstallESD.dmg file. This is a disk image
> file.
>
> Keep this disk image file handy.
>
> Then launch Disk Utility.
>
> If you have never used Disk Utility to burn a disk image file to a DVD
> disc, I recommend you use the Help feature in Disk Utility so you will
> have the steps set out to follow.
>
> Access the Disk Utility Help menu and start Disk Utility Help.
>
> Click Duplicate a disk, CD, or DVD then pick Create a Disk Image. Find
> the appropriate section and following the steps.
>
> If you have not dealt with disk images before this, not the there are
> two confusing parts of a Disk Image File. 1) is the Disk Image file
> itself which ends in the extension .dmg, 2) when the disk image file
> is double-clicked a 2nd file is produced and this 2nd file is
> confusingly called the Disk Image (not the Disk Image File).
>
> The Disk Image (the 2nd part) is a great computer trick. Your Mac
> thinks this file is a disc that has been inserted. You can install
> from it but your can also burn it to a DVD that will boot your Mac for
> installing the OS.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:28:13 -0800, Earle Jones wrote:
> > Is there any way to create a DVD or better yet, a flash drive (thumb
> > drive), by using something like Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer the
> > system files from my primary HD to the flash drive?
> >
> > My primary drive (1 TB) has almost 300 GB total data. I don't want a
> > complete clone.
> >
> > But how do I extract only the system files necessary to create a boot drive?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance!
> >
> > earle
> > *
> > ____________
> > Earle Jones
>
Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Since you purchase the iMac from someone else and they installed 10.8.2 have you asked them if they can provide you with the discs or any back up copies of those OSes?
If you changed the Apple ID on the iMac to your own, have you tried purchasing it from the (Mac) App Store? The one that is a stand alone app, called App Store.app, in your App folder, not iTunes.app.
Since it is already installed on your iMac, there is a receipt file on it that might prevent re-down loading 10.8. If so, I would call Apple and ask them how to accomplish that. Or if you can use the reinstall procedures as if you were the original purchaser of the 10.8. I have no clue how the licensing deals with this, but I am sure that Apple would not mind helping you out to purchase it for $19.99.
Then make sure you copy it off onto some other media to preserve a copy for yourself. You might have to call back to switch over to your purchased copy, so get a ticket number, as they may have to walk you through it. You usually get 90 days of AppleCare support for the purchase of an OS.
Brent
On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:42 AM, missladybee wrote:
My computer does not have an install app package file. It was purchased with 10.8 already preinstalled. I do not own any previous install disks and have not purchased or downloaded any versions through the iTunes store.
Even though I have nothing to work with, is it still possible for me to create or obtain a thumb drive backup?
Barbara
27" iMac 10.8.2
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> All you need is the Mountain Lion installer file/app and a DVD disc.
>
> The Mountain Lion installer app is a "package" file. This means you
> can open the package file and use a disk image file that is included
> and use your current Disk Utility and you can burn a new DVD Mountain
> Lion installer disc.
>
> To access any package file's contents do a right click (or Control left
> click) on the Installer file and then pick Show Package Contents from
> the contextual menu that pops up.
>
> Then navigate down in the package file and open Contents folder and
> find the SharedSupport folder.
>
> Inside SharedSupport is InstallESD.dmg file. This is a disk image
> file.
>
> Keep this disk image file handy.
>
> Then launch Disk Utility.
>
> If you have never used Disk Utility to burn a disk image file to a DVD
> disc, I recommend you use the Help feature in Disk Utility so you will
> have the steps set out to follow.
>
> Access the Disk Utility Help menu and start Disk Utility Help.
>
> Click Duplicate a disk, CD, or DVD then pick Create a Disk Image. Find
> the appropriate section and following the steps.
>
> If you have not dealt with disk images before this, not the there are
> two confusing parts of a Disk Image File. 1) is the Disk Image file
> itself which ends in the extension .dmg, 2) when the disk image file
> is double-clicked a 2nd file is produced and this 2nd file is
> confusingly called the Disk Image (not the Disk Image File).
>
> The Disk Image (the 2nd part) is a great computer trick. Your Mac
> thinks this file is a disc that has been inserted. You can install
> from it but your can also burn it to a DVD that will boot your Mac for
> installing the OS.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:28:13 -0800, Earle Jones wrote:
> > Is there any way to create a DVD or better yet, a flash drive (thumb
> > drive), by using something like Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer the
> > system files from my primary HD to the flash drive?
> >
> > My primary drive (1 TB) has almost 300 GB total data. I don't want a
> > complete clone.
> >
> > But how do I extract only the system files necessary to create a boot drive?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance!
> >
> > earle
> > *
> > _______________________
> > Earle Jones
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
If you changed the Apple ID on the iMac to your own, have you tried purchasing it from the (Mac) App Store? The one that is a stand alone app, called App Store.app, in your App folder, not iTunes.app.
Since it is already installed on your iMac, there is a receipt file on it that might prevent re-down loading 10.8. If so, I would call Apple and ask them how to accomplish that. Or if you can use the reinstall procedures as if you were the original purchaser of the 10.8. I have no clue how the licensing deals with this, but I am sure that Apple would not mind helping you out to purchase it for $19.99.
Then make sure you copy it off onto some other media to preserve a copy for yourself. You might have to call back to switch over to your purchased copy, so get a ticket number, as they may have to walk you through it. You usually get 90 days of AppleCare support for the purchase of an OS.
Brent
On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:42 AM, missladybee wrote:
My computer does not have an install app package file. It was purchased with 10.8 already preinstalled. I do not own any previous install disks and have not purchased or downloaded any versions through the iTunes store.
Even though I have nothing to work with, is it still possible for me to create or obtain a thumb drive backup?
Barbara
27" iMac 10.8.2
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Howdy.
>
> All you need is the Mountain Lion installer file/app and a DVD disc.
>
> The Mountain Lion installer app is a "package" file. This means you
> can open the package file and use a disk image file that is included
> and use your current Disk Utility and you can burn a new DVD Mountain
> Lion installer disc.
>
> To access any package file's contents do a right click (or Control left
> click) on the Installer file and then pick Show Package Contents from
> the contextual menu that pops up.
>
> Then navigate down in the package file and open Contents folder and
> find the SharedSupport folder.
>
> Inside SharedSupport is InstallESD.dmg file. This is a disk image
> file.
>
> Keep this disk image file handy.
>
> Then launch Disk Utility.
>
> If you have never used Disk Utility to burn a disk image file to a DVD
> disc, I recommend you use the Help feature in Disk Utility so you will
> have the steps set out to follow.
>
> Access the Disk Utility Help menu and start Disk Utility Help.
>
> Click Duplicate a disk, CD, or DVD then pick Create a Disk Image. Find
> the appropriate section and following the steps.
>
> If you have not dealt with disk images before this, not the there are
> two confusing parts of a Disk Image File. 1) is the Disk Image file
> itself which ends in the extension .dmg, 2) when the disk image file
> is double-clicked a 2nd file is produced and this 2nd file is
> confusingly called the Disk Image (not the Disk Image File).
>
> The Disk Image (the 2nd part) is a great computer trick. Your Mac
> thinks this file is a disc that has been inserted. You can install
> from it but your can also burn it to a DVD that will boot your Mac for
> installing the OS.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:28:13 -0800, Earle Jones wrote:
> > Is there any way to create a DVD or better yet, a flash drive (thumb
> > drive), by using something like Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer the
> > system files from my primary HD to the flash drive?
> >
> > My primary drive (1 TB) has almost 300 GB total data. I don't want a
> > complete clone.
> >
> > But how do I extract only the system files necessary to create a boot drive?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance!
> >
> > earle
> > *
> > ____________
> > Earle Jones
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"missladybee" missladybee
My iMac was purchased in December brand new directly from the Online Apple Store, preinstalled with the 10.8.
Are you saying I can purchase the Mountain Lion directly from the App Store? This is install software? I went there and that looks to be true. Once purchased I can then access it through my Apple ID account and download onto a thumb drive?
Barbara
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> Since you purchase the iMac from someone else and they installed 10.8.2 have you asked them if they can provide you with the discs or any back up copies of those OSes?
>
> If you changed the Apple ID on the iMac to your own, have you tried purchasing it from the (Mac) App Store? The one that is a stand alone app, called App Store.app, in your App folder, not iTunes.app.
>
> Since it is already installed on your iMac, there is a receipt file on it that might prevent re-down loading 10.8. If so, I would call Apple and ask them how to accomplish that. Or if you can use the reinstall procedures as if you were the original purchaser of the 10.8. I have no clue how the licensing deals with this, but I am sure that Apple would not mind helping you out to purchase it for $19.99.
>
> Then make sure you copy it off onto some other media to preserve a copy for yourself. You might have to call back to switch over to your purchased copy, so get a ticket number, as they may have to walk you through it. You usually get 90 days of AppleCare support for the purchase of an OS.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:42 AM, missladybee wrote:
>
> My computer does not have an install app package file. It was purchased with 10.8 already preinstalled. I do not own any previous install disks and have not purchased or downloaded any versions through the iTunes store.
>
> Even though I have nothing to work with, is it still possible for me to create or obtain a thumb drive backup?
>
> Barbara
> 27" iMac 10.8.2
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy.
> >
> > All you need is the Mountain Lion installer file/app and a DVD disc.
> >
> > The Mountain Lion installer app is a "package" file. This means you
> > can open the package file and use a disk image file that is included
> > and use your current Disk Utility and you can burn a new DVD Mountain
> > Lion installer disc.
> >
> > To access any package file's contents do a right click (or Control left
> > click) on the Installer file and then pick Show Package Contents from
> > the contextual menu that pops up.
> >
> > Then navigate down in the package file and open Contents folder and
> > find the SharedSupport folder.
> >
> > Inside SharedSupport is InstallESD.dmg file. This is a disk image
> > file.
> >
> > Keep this disk image file handy.
> >
> > Then launch Disk Utility.
> >
> > If you have never used Disk Utility to burn a disk image file to a DVD
> > disc, I recommend you use the Help feature in Disk Utility so you will
> > have the steps set out to follow.
> >
> > Access the Disk Utility Help menu and start Disk Utility Help.
> >
> > Click Duplicate a disk, CD, or DVD then pick Create a Disk Image. Find
> > the appropriate section and following the steps.
> >
> > If you have not dealt with disk images before this, not the there are
> > two confusing parts of a Disk Image File. 1) is the Disk Image file
> > itself which ends in the extension .dmg, 2) when the disk image file
> > is double-clicked a 2nd file is produced and this 2nd file is
> > confusingly called the Disk Image (not the Disk Image File).
> >
> > The Disk Image (the 2nd part) is a great computer trick. Your Mac
> > thinks this file is a disc that has been inserted. You can install
> > from it but your can also burn it to a DVD that will boot your Mac for
> > installing the OS.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Denver Dan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:28:13 -0800, Earle Jones wrote:
> > > Is there any way to create a DVD or better yet, a flash drive (thumb
> > > drive), by using something like Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer the
> > > system files from my primary HD to the flash drive?
> > >
> > > My primary drive (1 TB) has almost 300 GB total data. I don't want a
> > > complete clone.
> > >
> > > But how do I extract only the system files necessary to create a boot drive?
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > earle
> > > *
> > > _______________________
> > > Earle Jones
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Are you saying I can purchase the Mountain Lion directly from the App Store? This is install software? I went there and that looks to be true. Once purchased I can then access it through my Apple ID account and download onto a thumb drive?
Barbara
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Since you purchase the iMac from someone else and they installed 10.8.2 have you asked them if they can provide you with the discs or any back up copies of those OSes?
>
> If you changed the Apple ID on the iMac to your own, have you tried purchasing it from the (Mac) App Store? The one that is a stand alone app, called App Store.app, in your App folder, not iTunes.app.
>
> Since it is already installed on your iMac, there is a receipt file on it that might prevent re-down loading 10.8. If so, I would call Apple and ask them how to accomplish that. Or if you can use the reinstall procedures as if you were the original purchaser of the 10.8. I have no clue how the licensing deals with this, but I am sure that Apple would not mind helping you out to purchase it for $19.99.
>
> Then make sure you copy it off onto some other media to preserve a copy for yourself. You might have to call back to switch over to your purchased copy, so get a ticket number, as they may have to walk you through it. You usually get 90 days of AppleCare support for the purchase of an OS.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:42 AM, missladybee wrote:
>
> My computer does not have an install app package file. It was purchased with 10.8 already preinstalled. I do not own any previous install disks and have not purchased or downloaded any versions through the iTunes store.
>
> Even though I have nothing to work with, is it still possible for me to create or obtain a thumb drive backup?
>
> Barbara
> 27" iMac 10.8.2
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > Howdy.
> >
> > All you need is the Mountain Lion installer file/app and a DVD disc.
> >
> > The Mountain Lion installer app is a "package" file. This means you
> > can open the package file and use a disk image file that is included
> > and use your current Disk Utility and you can burn a new DVD Mountain
> > Lion installer disc.
> >
> > To access any package file's contents do a right click (or Control left
> > click) on the Installer file and then pick Show Package Contents from
> > the contextual menu that pops up.
> >
> > Then navigate down in the package file and open Contents folder and
> > find the SharedSupport folder.
> >
> > Inside SharedSupport is InstallESD.dmg file. This is a disk image
> > file.
> >
> > Keep this disk image file handy.
> >
> > Then launch Disk Utility.
> >
> > If you have never used Disk Utility to burn a disk image file to a DVD
> > disc, I recommend you use the Help feature in Disk Utility so you will
> > have the steps set out to follow.
> >
> > Access the Disk Utility Help menu and start Disk Utility Help.
> >
> > Click Duplicate a disk, CD, or DVD then pick Create a Disk Image. Find
> > the appropriate section and following the steps.
> >
> > If you have not dealt with disk images before this, not the there are
> > two confusing parts of a Disk Image File. 1) is the Disk Image file
> > itself which ends in the extension .dmg, 2) when the disk image file
> > is double-clicked a 2nd file is produced and this 2nd file is
> > confusingly called the Disk Image (not the Disk Image File).
> >
> > The Disk Image (the 2nd part) is a great computer trick. Your Mac
> > thinks this file is a disc that has been inserted. You can install
> > from it but your can also burn it to a DVD that will boot your Mac for
> > installing the OS.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Denver Dan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:28:13 -0800, Earle Jones wrote:
> > > Is there any way to create a DVD or better yet, a flash drive (thumb
> > > drive), by using something like Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer the
> > > system files from my primary HD to the flash drive?
> > >
> > > My primary drive (1 TB) has almost 300 GB total data. I don't want a
> > > complete clone.
> > >
> > > But how do I extract only the system files necessary to create a boot drive?
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > earle
> > > *
> > > ____________
> > > Earle Jones
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:39 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> My iMac was purchased in December brand new directly from the Online Apple Store, preinstalled with the 10.8.
>
> Are you saying I can purchase the Mountain Lion directly from the App Store? This is install software? I went there and that looks to be true. Once purchased I can then access it through my Apple ID account and download onto a thumb drive?
>
> Barbara
I just did a web search for "use of recovery partition on a mac" and one of the top results was this:
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US >
Which includes the following:
> Installing OS X on an external storage device
>
> Use these steps to install Lion from your Mac to a different internal hard drive or to an external USB, FireWire, SDHC or SDXC card, or a Thunderbolt storage device.
>
> Important: This will erase the storage device. A storage device that is already formatted to support Windows (formatted for FAT or NTFS file systems) will be reformatted. You should back up any important files that are on the device to a different drive.
>
> • Attach a USB, FireWire, or Thunderbolt storage device to your computer, or insert an SDHC or SDXC card into the SD card slot if your Mac has one.
> • Launch Disk Utility, from the /Applications/Utilities folder, then click Continue.
> Erase and reformat the storage device
>
> • Click the attached storage device where it indicates it's size in GB.
> • Click the Partition tab.
> • Select "1 Partition" from the Partition Layout pop-up menu.
> • Click Options. Note: Do not select more than one partition.
>
>
>
> • Click the GUID Partition Table radio button, then click OK.
>
>
> • In the format field, select Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
>
>
> • Click Apply.
> • Enter a name for the drive in the Name field.
> • Verify that you wish to erase and reformat the selected drive by clicking Partition.
> • After the reformatting process is finished, choose Quit Disk Utility from the Disk Utility menu.
> Install OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion
>
> If you completed your installation of OS X, your installer may have been removed after your successful first login to OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion. Mac App Store's Purchases page should show Install OS X as being "Installed", and disallow its download, when viewed from a computer running OS X.
>
> To redownload the installer on a computer running OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion, press and hold the Option key while you click the Purchases tab. If the button to the right of the Install OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion item doesn't change to "Install" and allow you to download OS X, use Spotlight to search for "Install OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion" on your computer.
>
> • Launch the Install OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion installer you downloaded from Mac App Store. The installer should be in the /Applications folder.
> • Follow the onscreen instructions to complete the OS X installation. Be sure you install Lion on the external storage device you've connected for this purpose, not your computer's boot drive.
> • When installation to your external device is complete, you can re-run Install Mac OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion installer and upgrade the boot drive of your computer. A Recovery System will likely not be created, but if you need to reinstall or repair your boot drive at a later date, you can connect the external drive you just prepared and hold Command-R while restarting computer in order to boot from the external Recovery System.
>
> Please note that Recovery System must be present on your computer's startup volume to use FileVault 2 (not an external Recovery System).
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> Are you saying I can purchase the Mountain Lion directly from the App Store? This is install software? I went there and that looks to be true. Once purchased I can then access it through my Apple ID account and download onto a thumb drive?
>
> Barbara
I just did a web search for "use of recovery partition on a mac" and one of the top results was this:
<http://support.
Which includes the following:
> Installing OS X on an external storage device
>
> Use these steps to install Lion from your Mac to a different internal hard drive or to an external USB, FireWire, SDHC or SDXC card, or a Thunderbolt storage device.
>
> Important: This will erase the storage device. A storage device that is already formatted to support Windows (formatted for FAT or NTFS file systems) will be reformatted. You should back up any important files that are on the device to a different drive.
>
> • Attach a USB, FireWire, or Thunderbolt storage device to your computer, or insert an SDHC or SDXC card into the SD card slot if your Mac has one.
> • Launch Disk Utility, from the /Applications/
> Erase and reformat the storage device
>
> • Click the attached storage device where it indicates it's size in GB.
> • Click the Partition tab.
> • Select "1 Partition" from the Partition Layout pop-up menu.
> • Click Options. Note: Do not select more than one partition.
>
>
>
> • Click the GUID Partition Table radio button, then click OK.
>
>
> • In the format field, select Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
>
>
> • Click Apply.
> • Enter a name for the drive in the Name field.
> • Verify that you wish to erase and reformat the selected drive by clicking Partition.
> • After the reformatting process is finished, choose Quit Disk Utility from the Disk Utility menu.
> Install OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion
>
> If you completed your installation of OS X, your installer may have been removed after your successful first login to OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion. Mac App Store's Purchases page should show Install OS X as being "Installed&quo
>
> To redownload the installer on a computer running OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion, press and hold the Option key while you click the Purchases tab. If the button to the right of the Install OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion item doesn't change to "Install" and allow you to download OS X, use Spotlight to search for "Install OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion" on your computer.
>
> • Launch the Install OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion installer you downloaded from Mac App Store. The installer should be in the /Applications folder.
> • Follow the onscreen instructions to complete the OS X installation. Be sure you install Lion on the external storage device you've connected for this purpose, not your computer'
> • When installation to your external device is complete, you can re-run Install Mac OS X Lion or OS X Mountain Lion installer and upgrade the boot drive of your computer. A Recovery System will likely not be created, but if you need to reinstall or repair your boot drive at a later date, you can connect the external drive you just prepared and hold Command-R while restarting computer in order to boot from the external Recovery System.
>
> Please note that Recovery System must be present on your computer'
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:36 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Is anyone burning data on Blu-Ray disks using a Blu-Ray burner in OSX?
Or is it overkill?
Or is it overkill?
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