Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1.1.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Barry Austern
- 1.2.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Bekah
- 1.3.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Denver Dan
- 1.4.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Saklad
- 1.5.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Bekah
- 1.6.
- Mountain Lion From: Earle Jones
- 1.7.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Saklad
- 1.8.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: N.A. Nada
- 1.9.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Dane Robison
- 1.10.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Saklad
- 1.11.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Daly Jessup
- 1.12.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Bekah
- 1.13.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Terry Pogue
- 1.14.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: N.A. Nada
- 1.15.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Bekah
- 1.16.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: N.A. Nada
- 1.17.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Daly Jessup
- 1.18.
- Re: Lion and "save as" From: Bekah
- 2.
- On changing to Lion From: Jim Saklad
- 3a.
- Re: Yahoo! weather app From: Oneal Neumann
- 4a.
- PPC Mac Office 2008 issue--Maybe Randy? From: Guy Kudlemyer
- 4b.
- Re: PPC Mac Office 2008 issue--Maybe Randy? From: HAL9000
- 4c.
- Re: PPC Mac Office 2008 issue--Maybe Randy? From: Randy B. Singer
- 5.
- ideas for comparing lists? From: Dane Robison
- 6a.
- Re: European 220 V plugs for Apple's autosensing power bricks From: Oneal Neumann
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- 1.1.
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:02 am (PDT)
At 9:24 PM -0700 6/10/12, Patti A Robertson wrote:
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>How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save
>as" command?
>
>I use that so much that I can't even begin to think about how I
>would live without having it available.
I have other reasons for sticking with Snow Leopard, such as
AppleWorks and Eudora, but I don't see this as a problem. As I
understand it, Lion automatically saves periodically, and the "save a
copy" command is pretty much the old "save as."
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net bekalex
Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:35 am (PDT)
Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
I'm using 10.6.8 - small fear of Lion -
Bekah
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:07 am (PDT)
Howdy.
Most programs in Lion still have a Save As command.
Some Apple branded programs included with Mac OS X Lion have been
crippled by Apple by changing the Save As to a sort of bundled mess of
automatic saving and a new requirement to use an "export" command or a
Duplicate command.
In Lion's TextEdit, you use a Duplicate command which duplicates the
file and then you can save it with a new name.
Dumb and dumber.
Some people I've heard like it.
I find it irritating and stopped using TextEdit and now use Tex-Edit
Plus from TransTex which FINALLY came out with a new version.
Preview in Lion is the same with the dumb duplicate command but I only
use Preview for a quick look at files so it's not very critical for me.
Most other programs like Word, Excel, Photoshop, InDesign, Quark, and
others still have a Save As command.
You are not the only one confused by this mix of extra step unnecessary
stuff.
Write Apple some feedback.
<http://www.apple.com/feedback/ >
Denver Dan
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:24:27 -0700, Patti A Robertson wrote:
> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save
> as" command?
>
> I use that so much that I can't even begin to think about how I would
> live without having it available.
>
> It's keeping me from buying a new Mac.
>
> Thanks for any info, work-arounds or whatever!
>
> Patti
- 1.4.
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:12 pm (PDT)
> Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
>
> Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
In the case of a new document that has never formally been saved yet, all one has to do is "Save..." -- <Command><s>
When I just tried that in Lion, the requester comes up with "untitled.pages" as the default name, waiting for me to change the "untitled" as needed (and, of course, the default save format of Pages is "Pages".
I think "Export..." is intended for situations when you specifically DON'T want to save as a Pages document.
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net bekalex
Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:47 pm (PDT)
Aha! Gracias! I'd only ever used "Save" when I was editing a previously "Save As..." Pages document. I occasionally save to pdf but prior to this I've used the "Print" menu.
Bekah
On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
>>
>> Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
>
> In the case of a new document that has never formally been saved yet, all one has to do is "Save..." -- <Command><s>
>
> When I just tried that in Lion, the requester comes up with "untitled.pages" as the default name, waiting for me to change the "untitled" as needed (and, of course, the default save format of Pages is "Pages".
>
> I think "Export..." is intended for situations when you specifically DON'T want to save as a Pages document.
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Mountain Lion
Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net earlejones501
Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:33 pm (PDT)
From OSX Daily, 6/11/2012
"No more guesses or vague release schedules, Apple has announced that OS X Mountain Lion will be released in July at a price of $19.99. The download will be available exclusively through the Mac App Store and following along with Apple's generous purchase policy, a single purchase of Mountain Lion will install on all personally authorized Macs.
Versioned as Mac OS X 10.8, Mountain Lion includes a wide variety of new features, including iMessage integration, AirPlay Mirroring, Dictation (think Siri minus the responses), Sharing Sheets, Notifications, Notes & Reminders apps, GateKeeper, Game Center, improved full screen support, and all-around heavy iCloud integration."
OSX Daily is at: osxdailycom@gmail.com
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:38 pm (PDT)
> Some Apple branded programs included with Mac OS X Lion have been crippled by Apple by changing the Save As to a sort of bundled mess of automatic saving and a new requirement to use an "export" command or a Duplicate command.
>
> In Lion's TextEdit, you use a Duplicate command which duplicates the file and then you can save it with a new name.
>
> Dumb and dumber.
Some Apple software was re-written to prevent accidental loss of works in progress, by routinely and regularly saving them as the user is creating them. This is what has triggered the rethinking of the Save Process.
As I previously stated, if you are newly creating a document, and you have reached the point where you are ready to save it, you simply press <Command><s> to "Save..." as you always have.
If you are editing an already saved document, you are prevented from overwriting the saved file, by requiring ONE extra click ("Duplicate") prior to hitting "Save..."
Smarted and safer.
> Some people I've heard like it.
Damn straight!
> I find it irritating and stopped using TextEdit and now use Tex-Edit Plus from TransTex which FINALLY came out with a new version.
Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
Some folks adapt to change better than others. Species evolve.
> Most other programs like Word, Excel, Photoshop, InDesign, Quark, and others still have a Save As command.
This, too, will pass. Probably.
> Write Apple some feedback.
> <http://www.apple.com/feedback/ >
Like no one else has thought of doing that since the Lion beta started over a year ago....
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:02 pm (PDT)
Maybe it was because I had to learn Windows for work and I had to think constantly, "Ok, what does Windows call this operation, that Apple called that."
The hardest thing I had to learn to use Windows was the vocabulary change, so changing from Save as to Export or Duplicate was no big thing for me. And then it was just a matter of looking it up in help once. I don't really care if they call it recycle, trash or "scramble the electrons", as long as it does the same thing.
Brent
On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
Howdy.
Most programs in Lion still have a Save As command.
Some Apple branded programs included with Mac OS X Lion have been
crippled by Apple by changing the Save As to a sort of bundled mess of
automatic saving and a new requirement to use an "export" command or a
Duplicate command.
In Lion's TextEdit, you use a Duplicate command which duplicates the
file and then you can save it with a new name.
Dumb and dumber.
Some people I've heard like it.
I find it irritating and stopped using TextEdit and now use Tex-Edit
Plus from TransTex which FINALLY came out with a new version.
Preview in Lion is the same with the dumb duplicate command but I only
use Preview for a quick look at files so it's not very critical for me.
Most other programs like Word, Excel, Photoshop, InDesign, Quark, and
others still have a Save As command.
You are not the only one confused by this mix of extra step unnecessary
stuff.
Write Apple some feedback.
<http://www.apple.com/feedback/ >
Denver Dan
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:24:27 -0700, Patti A Robertson wrote:
> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save
> as" command?
>
> I use that so much that I can't even begin to think about how I would
> live without having it available.
>
> It's keeping me from buying a new Mac.
>
> Thanks for any info, work-arounds or whatever!
>
> Patti
- 1.9.
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com macdane1
Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:13 pm (PDT)
On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> If you are editing an already saved document, you are prevented from overwriting the saved file, by requiring ONE extra click ("Duplicate") prior to hitting "Save..."
This is, in my experience anyway, not quite true. You are allowed to overwrite the saved file dozens of times (or more�who has time to test it?) and are then bailed out by the safety net of versions. I see no reason to abandon the "Save as�" command, nor would keeping it have risked anything. If you "Save as�" with the same filename, a version could be saved; if you specify a different filename, it's effectively a duplicate. But the point is that all this could be achieved without confusing or frustrating the user. All benefit, no risk.
> Some folks adapt to change better than others. Species evolve.
Ignoring for a moment the ugly insinuation in your statement, I just want to point out that the "old way" people are looking for is the method Apple spent years and years training us to use. Oh, and as stated previously, the same progress could've been made while keeping "Save as�" intact. What we have instead looks a lot like change for the sake of change.
> Like no one else has thought of doing that since the Lion beta started over a year ago....
That's got to be the single dumbest response ever offered to a suggestion like Dan's. Like no one else has thought of that? No. Like if enough people think of it � and do it � Apple may get the message. The power of user feedback lies precisely in duplication � amplification � of a message.
Dane
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:46 pm (PDT)
>> Some folks adapt to change better than others. Species evolve.
>
> Ignoring for a moment the ugly insinuation in your statement,...
Which is what you *should* do, since any "ugly insinuation" is only in the eye of the beholder. There wasn't any when I wrote it.
> I just want to point out that the "old way" people are looking for is the method Apple spent years and years training us to use. Oh, and as stated previously, the same progress could've been made while keeping "Save as�" intact. What we have instead looks a lot like change for the sake of change.
I find that most people's problem with Apple's changes is that Apple never explains *why* they are making a change after a decade of doing it the other way. In general, as in the case of the floppy, the SCSI port, and now the optical disk drive, I find after some thought that I agree with them.
>> Like no one else has thought of doing that since the Lion beta started over a year ago....
>
> That's got to be the single dumbest response ever offered to a suggestion like Dan's. Like no one else has thought of that? No. Like if enough people think of it � and do it � Apple may get the message.
No; they have ALREADY gotten the message.
It was one of the most prominent items discussed and complained about during many months of beta testing. Apple repeatedly told the testers, more or less, "Thank you for reporting this, but it is working exactly as we planned it should."
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com dalyjessup
Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:34 pm (PDT)
On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bekah wrote:
> Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
>
> Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
Don't export it. Make a Duplicate and save the duplicate. Give it a different name. The original will save itself automatically when you close it.
Daly
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net bekalex
Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:13 pm (PDT)
Duplicate is always grayed out, whether the document is new or previously saved. I don't know what Duplicate can be used for in Pages but it's there.
Bekah
On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bekah wrote:
>
>> Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
>>
>> Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
>
> Don't export it. Make a Duplicate and save the duplicate. Give it a different name. The original will save itself automatically when you close it.
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> Daly
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net terrypogue_2000
Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:51 pm (PDT)
Sent from my iPadHD
On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
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> On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bekah wrote:
>
>> Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
>>
>> Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
>
> Don't export it. Make a Duplicate and save the duplicate. Give it a different name. The original will save itself automatically when you close it.
>
> Daly
>
If you "make a duplicate it can you name it without needing to find it? That's what I like the export, you get the little window so you can type in the new name right then.
Terry
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:47 pm (PDT)
So you can't highlight the document in Finder, then either go to the Menu Bar> File> Duplicate or Command + D? No need to open the document.
I can't boot into 10.6.8, to check it out there.
Brent
On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bekah wrote:
Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
I'm using 10.6.8 - small fear of Lion -
Bekah
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net bekalex
Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:00 pm (PDT)
From the Pages Help: (6.8 is on top, Lion is on the bottom) There's more in there but I only copied the top part for both versions:
To save a document for the first time:
� Choose File > Save, or press Command-S.
� In the Save As field, type a name for the document.
� Choose the folder where you want to save the document from the Where pop-up menu.
If the location you want isn�t visible in the Where pop-up menu, click the disclosure triangle to the right of the Save As field, and then navigate to the location you want to save the document.
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To archive a version of a document in Mac OS X v10.7 (Lion) or later:
Choose File > �Save a Version,� or press Command-S.
Archived versions can only be created if you�re running Mac OS X v10.7 (Lion), or later. To learn about restoring archived document versions, see Finding an Archived Version of a Document.
In general, you can save Pages documents only to computers and servers that use Mac OS X. Pages is not compatible with Mac OS 9 computers and Windows servers running Services for Macintosh. If you must use a Windows computer, try using AFP server software available for Windows to do so.
Bekah
On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:47 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> So you can't highlight the document in Finder, then either go to the Menu Bar> File> Duplicate or Command + D? No need to open the document.
>
> I can't boot into 10.6.8, to check it out there.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bekah wrote:
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> Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
>
> Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
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> I'm using 10.6.8 - small fear of Lion -
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> Bekah
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:30 pm (PDT)
Bekah,
I have no idea what you are trying to tell me. Your post seemed to be asking how to save as or duplicate a Page doc. How does your reply below relate to that?
You said Duplicate was greyed out for you in Pages, and I was telling you to use Duplicate from Finder.
In Lion, Duplicate is available in the Menu Bar under File, but with no keystroke shortcut, and from there you can access all the same options as save as.
"There seems to be a failure to communicate, here." to quote the movie "Cool Hand Luke".
Brent
On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Bekah wrote:
From the Pages Help: (6.8 is on top, Lion is on the bottom) There's more in there but I only copied the top part for both versions:
To save a document for the first time:
� Choose File > Save, or press Command-S.
� In the Save As field, type a name for the document.
� Choose the folder where you want to save the document from the Where pop-up menu.
If the location you want isn�t visible in the Where pop-up menu, click the disclosure triangle to the right of the Save As field, and then navigate to the location you want to save the document.
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To archive a version of a document in Mac OS X v10.7 (Lion) or later:
Choose File > �Save a Version,� or press Command-S.
Archived versions can only be created if you�re running Mac OS X v10.7 (Lion), or later. To learn about restoring archived document versions, see Finding an Archived Version of a Document.
In general, you can save Pages documents only to computers and servers that use Mac OS X. Pages is not compatible with Mac OS 9 computers and Windows servers running Services for Macintosh. If you must use a Windows computer, try using AFP server software available for Windows to do so.
Bekah
On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:47 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> So you can't highlight the document in Finder, then either go to the Menu Bar> File> Duplicate or Command + D? No need to open the document.
>
> I can't boot into 10.6.8, to check it out there.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bekah wrote:
>
> Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
>
> Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
>
> I'm using 10.6.8 - small fear of Lion -
>
> Bekah
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com dalyjessup
Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:01 am (PDT)
On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Terry Pogue wrote:
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> On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
>> Don't export it. Make a Duplicate and save the duplicate. Give it a different name. The original will save itself automatically when you close it.
> If you "make a duplicate it can you name it without needing to find it? That's what I like the export, you get the little window so you can type in the new name right then.
> Terry
Yes, with the original document open, choose File/Duplicate. A second copy of the document appears just offset from the original, and the Duplicate is ready to be saved. But you are viewing both of them at the same time.
Daly
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Re: Lion and "save as"
Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net bekalex
Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:53 am (PDT)
I'm not in Lion. I'm in 6.8. The only Duplicate is in the Finder bar under Edit - trouble is it's greyed out.
The post I sent is the instructions for saving a new Pages document. For 6.8, it says to use Save - does not mention Duplicate.
If I just use the red button on the top of the Pages doc that I am typing there is a little "Do you want to save the changes you made in the document "Untitled"? - buttons - Don't Save, Cancel or Save. Then if I push Save it brings up the save screen where you title and put it somewhere. If I push Don't Save it's deleted. If I push Cancel it goes back to the page I'm creating. Actually, it would seem that's the way Pages / Mac is directing me (or something different would come up).
Bekah
On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:30 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Bekah,
>
> I have no idea what you are trying to tell me. Your post seemed to be asking how to save as or duplicate a Page doc. How does your reply below relate to that?
>
> You said Duplicate was greyed out for you in Pages, and I was telling you to use Duplicate from Finder.
>
> In Lion, Duplicate is available in the Menu Bar under File, but with no keystroke shortcut, and from there you can access all the same options as save as.
>
> "There seems to be a failure to communicate, here." to quote the movie "Cool Hand Luke".
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Bekah wrote:
>
> From the Pages Help: (6.8 is on top, Lion is on the bottom) There's more in there but I only copied the top part for both versions:
>
>
> To save a document for the first time:
> � Choose File > Save, or press Command-S.
>
> � In the Save As field, type a name for the document.
>
> � Choose the folder where you want to save the document from the Where pop-up menu.
>
> If the location you want isn�t visible in the Where pop-up menu, click the disclosure triangle to the right of the Save As field, and then navigate to the location you want to save the document.
>
> ********************
> To archive a version of a document in Mac OS X v10.7 (Lion) or later:
> Choose File > �Save a Version,� or press Command-S.
>
> Archived versions can only be created if you�re running Mac OS X v10.7 (Lion), or later. To learn about restoring archived document versions, see Finding an Archived Version of a Document.
>
> In general, you can save Pages documents only to computers and servers that use Mac OS X. Pages is not compatible with Mac OS 9 computers and Windows servers running Services for Macintosh. If you must use a Windows computer, try using AFP server software available for Windows to do so.
>
>
> Bekah
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:47 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
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>> So you can't highlight the document in Finder, then either go to the Menu Bar> File> Duplicate or Command + D? No need to open the document.
>>
>> I can't boot into 10.6.8, to check it out there.
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bekah wrote:
>>
>> Okay - trying to change my ways. I'm saving a new recipe which I typed into Pages. It includes a photo. I used to use "Save As" and come up with a "pages" document which worked great. I then stashed the document wherever I wanted it. I do this quite often with recipes and book reviews.
>>
>> Now - instead of "Save As" (old ways) I tried to use "Export" (new way). Click "Export" and get 5 options - PDF, Word, RTF, Plain Text or ePub. I use RTF? Why? When I open the document from where I saved it, it's easier, I suppose , no need for the Pages application to open. But can I change as much in RTF as I can in Pages?
>>
>> I'm using 10.6.8 - small fear of Lion -
>>
>> Bekah
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On changing to Lion
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:04 pm (PDT)
A datum or two from the WWDC Keynote, for those who have been wondering about Lion, but haven't made the change yet:
"26 million copies shipped to date. Best selling release ever"
"40% of OS X users are running Lion. Achieved in 9 months. Windows 7 took 26 months to get to the same level."
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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Re: Yahoo! weather app
Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com newalander
Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:23 pm (PDT)
> On 2012 June 11 (at 15:18) Forrest Leedy wrote:
>
> This sounds a lot like a Safari extension. I have no idea where you got it from as I could not find it under Safari extension list nor Yahoo. However, if it is an extensions you should be able to find it in the Safari preferences under the extension icon. Forrest
>
You are correct, Forrest. I found Cloudy 1.4 (by Mario Tausch) in Safari > Preferences > Extensions. Not sure that I installed it, however I�m okay with it being there.
https://public.me.com/ix/ mariotausch/ dev/index. html
The extension uses a UK weather service for its info. Not sure if being in Hungary is the reason for the app's presence. Cloudy 1.4 adds a weather button to the toolbar.
The extension�s section in Preferences already has Centigrade selected as the default temp display, however it never does that when I first open the page with Yahoo! Weather.
Thanx. Oneal
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PPC Mac Office 2008 issue--Maybe Randy?
Posted by: "Guy Kudlemyer" gwkuddles@comcast.net truckersroost
Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:30 pm (PDT)
Hello:
PPC Mac Mini
OSX 10.4.11
MS Office 2008
Each time I attempt to use AutoUpdate, I get a dialog box that says,
³Microsoft AutoUpdate might not be properly installed on your computer. To
restore it, reinstall your Microsoft application.²
Surely there is an easier way to go about this. Sounds like just trashing a
Prefs file or something, then re-starting. But I don¹t know what to trash.
Can anyone help? Randy, perhaps?
Thanks in advance!
Guy
Thurston, Oregon
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Re: PPC Mac Office 2008 issue--Maybe Randy?
Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com jrswebhome
Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:35 pm (PDT)
Have you tried completely reinstalling you Office Suite?
jr
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Guy Kudlemyer <gwkuddles@.com ..> wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> PPC Mac Mini
> OSX 10.4.11
> MS Office 2008
>
> Each time I attempt to use AutoUpdate, I get a dialog box that says,
> ³Microsoft AutoUpdate might not be properly installed on your computer. To
> restore it, reinstall your Microsoft application.²
>
> Surely there is an easier way to go about this. Sounds like just trashing a
> Prefs file or something, then re-starting. But I don¹t know what to trash.
>
> Can anyone help? Randy, perhaps?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Guy
> Thurston, Oregon
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: PPC Mac Office 2008 issue--Maybe Randy?
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:30 am (PDT)
On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Guy Kudlemyer wrote:
> Each time I attempt to use AutoUpdate, I get a dialog box that says,
> ³Microsoft AutoUpdate might not be properly installed on your
> computer. To
> restore it, reinstall your Microsoft application.²
> ...
>
> Can anyone help? Randy, perhaps?
See:
http://support.microsoft. com/kb/2450862
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
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ideas for comparing lists?
Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com macdane1
Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:29 am (PDT)
Morning!
I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare two text files � simple lists � which may contain duplicate data, and then remove list items that appear on the first list from the second list. That sounds confusing, so I'll just spell it out�
I need to send an email to a few hundred people. Time is a factor and I'll initially only have access to about 2/3 of the addresses and would like to send those immediately. About a week later I'll receive a list with ALL of the addresses. I'd like to find a semi-automated way to remove from that full list any addresses I've already mailed to.
It's kinda-sorta the opposite of BBEdit's "Find Differences" command. I want to find common items and remove them from the second list. Does anyone know of a quick and easy way to do this on a Mac, or will I be doing it manually?
Thanks!
Dane
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Re: European 220 V plugs for Apple's autosensing power bricks
Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com newalander
Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:13 am (PDT)
> On 2012 June 4 (at 00:36) James Robertson wrote:
>
> My wife and I are traveling to Europe this summer, and we'll have an iPad, 2 iPhones, possibly a MacBook Pro, and one or two digital cameras along. All no doubt will need recharging.
>
> ... ... ...
>
> ... ... ...
>
> Is there a way to get the Apple Western European plugs in the US?
>
> Thanks, Jim Robertson
>
Most dollar stores sell adaptors.
Before I left Hamilton (Ontario) I got someone in the local dollar store to order a bunch of Europlugs. I bought a handful at a buck a pop.
Relocating to Hungary I brought three North American-type extension cords with me. I also brought a travelbag with all the connectors, etcetera that I thought that I might ever need.
I am writing this with my 110-volt ProBook plugged into a 220 outlet. My Mac transformer works with both currents no probs. All transformers do, as far as I know.
Eurorooms are less-well supplied with outlets, as I found out, so plan ahead and bring some extension cords and/or cubetaps with you.
I�ve been frequenting the local Tesco, which is a super supermarket. It not only carries food, it has furnishings, clothes and electronica, as well as booze (which Ontario stores can not legally sell). Pretty well whatever you may need electronicswise is gettable at Tesco.
Just bring your own adaptors to access the local juice. Oneal
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