6/13/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8944

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Thunderbolt firmware update From: John
1b.
Re: Thunderbolt firmware update From: Tim O'Donoghue
1c.
Re: Thunderbolt firmware update From: N.A. Nada
1d.
Re: Thunderbolt firmware update From: Tim O'Donoghue
1e.
Re: Thunderbolt firmware update From: N.A. Nada
1f.
Re: Thunderbolt firmware update From: Tim O'Donoghue
2.1.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Hamm
2.2.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Saklad
2.3.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Saklad
2.4.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Saklad
2.5.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: OBrien
2.6.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Bekah
3a.
Colour in the sidebar From: Brimac
3b.
Re: Colour in the sidebar From: Chris Jones
3c.
Re: Colour in the sidebar From: John Engberg
3d.
Re: Colour in the sidebar From: Randy B. Singer
4a.
Re: ideas for comparing lists? From: Anna Larson
4b.
Re: ideas for comparing lists? From: Dane Reugger
4c.
Re: ideas for comparing lists? From: Jim Smith
4d.
Re: ideas for comparing lists? From: Daly Jessup
4e.
Re: ideas for comparing lists? From: Dane Robison
4f.
Re: ideas for comparing lists? From: Randy B. Singer
4g.
Re: ideas for comparing lists? From: Alan Fry
5a.
Problems with Lion From: keith_w @dslextreme.com
5b.
Re: Problems with Lion From: Doug Yelmen

Messages

1a.

Thunderbolt firmware update

Posted by: "John" ensignjd@verizon.net   nciccheck

Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:49 am (PDT)



Don't install it! It screwed up Lion necessitating a reinstall!
Macupdate.com shows similar results.

1b.

Re: Thunderbolt firmware update

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:00 am (PDT)



Installed it on Mac Mini Lion 10.7.4. No issues.

On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, John wrote:

> Don't install it! It screwed up Lion necessitating a reinstall!
> Macupdate.com shows similar results.
>
>

1c.

Re: Thunderbolt firmware update

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:09 pm (PDT)



While it is nice to know that people are looking out for their fellow users. I wish people would qualify their statements.

Some people are having problems with the Thunderbolt firmware update. Only the recent MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac mini have Thunderbolt capabilities. It seems the Mac mini is not experiencing that from recent list posts, here and elsewhere.

Yes, if it goes wrong it is a major issue, but for a good number, but a small portion of the user base.

Brent

On Jun 12, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:

Installed it on Mac Mini Lion 10.7.4. No issues.

On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, John wrote:

> Don't install it! It screwed up Lion necessitating a reinstall!
> Macupdate.com shows similar results.

1d.

Re: Thunderbolt firmware update

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:30 pm (PDT)



Good point. My Mac Mini is a 2011 Model A1347 MC816LL/A (2.5 GHz)

On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:09 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> While it is nice to know that people are looking out for their fellow users. I wish people would qualify their statements.
>
> Some people are having problems with the Thunderbolt firmware update. Only the recent MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac mini have Thunderbolt capabilities. It seems the Mac mini is not experiencing that from recent list posts, here and elsewhere.
>
> Yes, if it goes wrong it is a major issue, but for a good number, but a small portion of the user base.
>
> Brent
>
>
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> On Jun 12, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>
> Installed it on Mac Mini Lion 10.7.4. No issues.
>
> On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, John wrote:
>
>> Don't install it! It screwed up Lion necessitating a reinstall!
>> Macupdate.com shows similar results.
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1e.

Re: Thunderbolt firmware update

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:48 pm (PDT)



I'm sorry Tim, you were not the one that was meant for.

People have started similar threads with no real info on several lists. Since it is firmware, did they install it correctly, meaning did they stop everything else, unplug all peripherials, and let it run its full course. What Mac did they try to install it on? What did they do or not do? For the blogs, what is their experience level?

But no, all they post is "Don't do it."

And not to pick on just John, who it seems this is his first post to this list, since on another list a regular posted just about the same "Don't do it."

Brent
- who takes lots of grains of salt

On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:

Good point. My Mac Mini is a 2011 Model A1347 MC816LL/A (2.5 GHz)

On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:09 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> While it is nice to know that people are looking out for their fellow users. I wish people would qualify their statements.
>
> Some people are having problems with the Thunderbolt firmware update. Only the recent MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac mini have Thunderbolt capabilities. It seems the Mac mini is not experiencing that from recent list posts, here and elsewhere.
>
> Yes, if it goes wrong it is a major issue, but for a good number, but a small portion of the user base.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>
> Installed it on Mac Mini Lion 10.7.4. No issues.
>
> On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, John wrote:
>
>> Don't install it! It screwed up Lion necessitating a reinstall!
>> Macupdate.com shows similar results.
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1f.

Re: Thunderbolt firmware update

Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net   timodonoghue

Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:53 pm (PDT)



Agreed, but I also needed to be more specific with the details since different versions of the same machine can be affected differently.

"Mac Mini" does not indicate that there is Thunderbolt, but A1347 Mac Mini does.

On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:48 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> I'm sorry Tim, you were not the one that was meant for.
>
> People have started similar threads with no real info on several lists. Since it is firmware, did they install it correctly, meaning did they stop everything else, unplug all peripherials, and let it run its full course. What Mac did they try to install it on? What did they do or not do? For the blogs, what is their experience level?
>
> But no, all they post is "Don't do it."
>
> And not to pick on just John, who it seems this is his first post to this list, since on another list a regular posted just about the same "Don't do it."
>
> Brent
> - who takes lots of grains of salt
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>
> Good point. My Mac Mini is a 2011 Model A1347 MC816LL/A (2.5 GHz)
>
> On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:09 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
>> While it is nice to know that people are looking out for their fellow users. I wish people would qualify their statements.
>>
>> Some people are having problems with the Thunderbolt firmware update. Only the recent MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac mini have Thunderbolt capabilities. It seems the Mac mini is not experiencing that from recent list posts, here and elsewhere.
>>
>> Yes, if it goes wrong it is a major issue, but for a good number, but a small portion of the user base.
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>>
>> Installed it on Mac Mini Lion 10.7.4. No issues.
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, John wrote:
>>
>>> Don't install it! It screwed up Lion necessitating a reinstall!
>>> Macupdate.com shows similar results.
>>
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2.1.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Jim Hamm" machamm@gmail.com   jimhamm90

Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:29 am (PDT)



Patti, here's a couple of articles that may be of help...Jim

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20102158-263/duplicate-vs-save-as-in-os-x-lion/

http://lifehacker.com/5877519/bring-back-save-as-in-mac-os-x-lion-sort-of

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Patti A Robertson
<pattiandken@charter.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as"
> command?
>
> I use that so much that I can't even begin to think about how I would live
> without having it available.
>
> It's keeping me from buying a new Mac.
>
> Thanks for any info, work-arounds or whatever!
>
> Patti
>
>
>

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2.2.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:08 pm (PDT)



> I'm not in Lion. I'm in 6.8. The only Duplicate is in the Finder bar under Edit - trouble is it's greyed out.

"Duplicate" in the Edit menu of Pages seems from my experimenting to be intended for duplicating *objects* within a Pages document.

You are correct, there is no Duplicate in the File menu in Pages in Snow Leopard.

Your are further correct that there is a Duplicate in the File menu *in Finder* in Snow Leopard, but that is intended for duplicating a file or folder that is selected in Finder.

Now, I've lost the thread here ... what was the problem we were trying to solve?

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2.3.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:09 pm (PDT)



>> No; they have ALREADY gotten the message.
>> It was one of the most prominent items discussed and complained about during many months of beta testing. Apple repeatedly told the testers, more or less, "Thank you for reporting this, but it is working exactly as we planned it should."
>
> AKA "you WILL do what we say because we say so".

AKA "We have considered the alternatives and have chosen this method as the way we want this feature to work."

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2.4.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:12 pm (PDT)



> Maybe they fixed this in Mountain Lion?

<http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apple_quietly_brings_save_as_back_in_mountain_lion/>

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2.5.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:44 pm (PDT)



On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:11:55 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
> <http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apple_quietly_brings_save_as_back_in_mountain_lion/>

"Apple's Versions technology, and a general move towards hiding the file system from Mac users the same way it is hidden from iOS users.
Which is where part of the above-mentioned wailing and gnashing came in, as there is a sizable chunk of Apple's Mac customer base which is just fine with being able to access the file system, thank you very much."

"This keyboard command—Command-Shift-Option-S—will allow users to, "save a document using a different name and location." You know, like you should be able to do on a computer."

Ha!...yes. I don't mind if it's only a keyboard command...I never use the menu command, anyway.

It's irritating that Apple thinks I shouldn't care about having access to the file system.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
2.6.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net   bekalex

Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:51 pm (PDT)



On Jun 12, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> I'm not in Lion. I'm in 6.8. The only Duplicate is in the Finder bar under Edit - trouble is it's greyed out.
>
> "Duplicate" in the Edit menu of Pages seems from my experimenting to be intended for duplicating *objects* within a Pages document.
>
> You are correct, there is no Duplicate in the File menu in Pages in Snow Leopard.
>
> Your are further correct that there is a Duplicate in the File menu *in Finder* in Snow Leopard, but that is intended for duplicating a file or folder that is selected in Finder.
>
> Now, I've lost the thread here ... what was the problem we were trying to solve?

Originally someone asked how to save in Lion since there was no Save As. Then the subject morphed to how to "properly" save at all in other versions of OS. We found there to be lots of ways. (heh)

Thank you

Bekah
3a.

Colour in the sidebar

Posted by: "Brimac" brmc@olypen.com   cuatro.calla

Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:49 pm (PDT)



In Lion the colour has disappeared from the icons in the sidebar in Finder and Mail. I can't seem to find a way to get it back. It takes more peering without the coloured icons. Is there a way to restore the colour?

Brian

3b.

Re: Colour in the sidebar

Posted by: "Chris Jones" jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk   bobstermcbob

Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:00 pm (PDT)



Hi,

On 12 Jun 2012, at 8:49pm, Brimac wrote:

> In Lion the colour has disappeared from the icons in the sidebar in Finder and Mail. I can't seem to find a way to get it back. It takes more peering without the coloured icons. Is there a way to restore the colour?

Its been discussed to death on this list already. Search the archives.

I for one like the monochrome look in Lion�

Chris

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3c.

Re: Colour in the sidebar

Posted by: "John Engberg" mrbyte@earthlink.net   mrmacbyte

Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:47 pm (PDT)




On Jun 12, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Brimac wrote:

> In Lion the colour has disappeared from the icons in the sidebar in Finder and Mail. I can't seem to find a way to get it back. It takes more peering without the coloured icons. Is there a way to restore the colour?
>
> Brian
>

Hello, Brian.

Check this out. You'll find that you can do easily.

http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/25/get-color-sidebar-icons-back-in-mac-os-x-10-7-lion-finder-windows/

John Engberg
3d.

Re: Colour in the sidebar

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:52 pm (PDT)




On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Brimac wrote:

> In Lion the colour has disappeared from the icons in the sidebar in
> Finder and Mail. I can't seem to find a way to get it back. It
> takes more peering without the coloured icons. Is there a way to
> restore the colour?

Restore color sidebar icons in Finder using:

SideEffects (free)
http://macmatrix.blogspot.com/p/sideeffects.html

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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
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4a.

Re: ideas for comparing lists?

Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:13 pm (PDT)




On 12.06.2012, at 14:29, Dane Robison wrote:

>
> I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare two text files �simple lists �which may contain duplicate data, and then remove list items that appear on the first list from the second list. That sounds confusing, so I'll just spell it out�br> >
> I need to send an email to a few hundred people. Time is a factor and I'll initially only have access to about 2/3 of the addresses and would like to send those immediately. About a week later I'll receive a list with ALL of the addresses. I'd like to find a semi-automated way to remove from that full list any addresses I've already mailed to.

You can do this very easily with Nisus Writer Pro.

Use the "Compare Documents"-macro. It allows you to compare words, clauses or paragraphs. In this case you should choose paragraphs. The new addresses will be shown with a green background color; which means, in just a few seconds you have all what you need.

See the result here:

http://minus.com/mYTwCkHqK/

See the first document here:

http://minus.com/mYTwCkHqK/2

Anna

4b.

Re: ideas for comparing lists?

Posted by: "Dane Reugger" dane@downtownpc.com   dar2112

Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:54 pm (PDT)



I use Winmerge on a PC but for the Mac you could try - http://meldmerge.org/

-Dane

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Dane Robison <macdane@mac.com> wrote:

> Morning!
>
> I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare two text files �br> > simple lists �which may contain duplicate data, and then remove list items
> that appear on the first list from the second list. That sounds confusing,
> so I'll just spell it out�br> >
> I need to send an email to a few hundred people. Time is a factor and I'll
> initially only have access to about 2/3 of the addresses and would like to
> send those immediately. About a week later I'll receive a list with ALL of
> the addresses. I'd like to find a semi-automated way to remove from that
> full list any addresses I've already mailed to.
>
> It's kinda-sorta the opposite of BBEdit's "Find Differences" command. I
> want to find common items and remove them from the second list. Does anyone
> know of a quick and easy way to do this on a Mac, or will I be doing it
> manually?
>
> Thanks!
> Dane
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4c.

Re: ideas for comparing lists?

Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com   jimmacsmith

Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:56 pm (PDT)



TextWrangler. And it free. It's in the Apple store.
Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.com

On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Dane Robison wrote:

> Morning!
>
> I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare two text files �simple lists �which may contain duplicate data, and then remove list items that appear on the first list from the second list. That sounds confusing, so I'll just spell it out�br> >
> I need to send an email to a few hundred people. Time is a factor and I'll initially only have access to about 2/3 of the addresses and would like to send those immediately. About a week later I'll receive a list with ALL of the addresses. I'd like to find a semi-automated way to remove from that full list any addresses I've already mailed to.
>
> It's kinda-sorta the opposite of BBEdit's "Find Differences" command. I want to find common items and remove them from the second list. Does anyone know of a quick and easy way to do this on a Mac, or will I be doing it manually?
>
> Thanks!
> Dane
>
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4d.

Re: ideas for comparing lists?

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:06 pm (PDT)




On Jun 12, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Dane Robison wrote:

> I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare two text files �simple lists �which may contain duplicate data, and then remove list items that appear on the first list from the second list. That sounds confusing, so I'll just spell it out�br> >
> I need to send an email to a few hundred people. Time is a factor and I'll initially only have access to about 2/3 of the addresses and would like to send those immediately. About a week later I'll receive a list with ALL of the addresses. I'd like to find a semi-automated way to remove from that full list any addresses I've already mailed to.
>
> It's kinda-sorta the opposite of BBEdit's "Find Differences" command. I want to find common items and remove them from the second list. Does anyone know of a quick and easy way to do this on a Mac, or will I be doing it manually?

Here's a Mac version of what I sent to Dane this morning from Excel on a PC at work. It certainly works for me. It does require that you have Excel, I think 2008 or 2011. (To get the Developer tab to show in Excel, go to the Excel menu, choose Preferences, then in Preferences, the "Ribbon" icon. Put a checkmark next to "Developer.")

In an Excel spreadsheet, copy the whole new list to column A.
Copy the original list into column C.

Click the Developer tab.
Click the Macros button.
Give the new Macro a name ("Find_Matches")
Click Create.

In the module window that opens, paste the following code (omitting the dividing lines I have inserted before and after). If you end up with duplicates of Sub Find and End Sub (at the start and finish), remove the duplicates.

----------------------------------------------------------
Sub Find_Matches()
Dim CompareRange As Variant, x As Variant, y As Variant
' Set CompareRange equal to the range to which you will
' compare the selection.
Set CompareRange = Range("C1:C25")
' NOTE: If the compare range is located on another workbook
' or worksheet, use the following syntax.
' Set CompareRange = Workbooks("Book2"). _
' Worksheets("Sheet2").Range("C1:C5")
'
' Loop through each cell in the selection and compare it to
' each cell in CompareRange.
For Each x In Selection
For Each y In CompareRange
If x = y Then x.Offset(0, 1) = "match"
Next y
Next x
End Sub
----------------------------------------------------------

In about the middle of that code, see where it says �1:C5�n two places. Replace the �5�with the actual number of rows of addresses you have (count the number of rows in the longer of your two lists). If it is, say, 200 addresses, then those two locations in the script would read: (�1:C200�

Go back to your spreadsheet and select all the contents in Column A, from A1 to (for example) A200.
Go back to the Macros window and select your "Find_Matches" macro, then click Run.

Column B will now say �atch�for each item that has a match in column C for an item in Column A.

In the Data menu, choose Sort, and tell it to sort on Column B. That will put all the cells that say �atch�together. Select all the rows that say �atch�and what� left will be the rows that had unique values.

It may sound like a lot but it really just takes a few seconds.

Daly

4e.

Re: ideas for comparing lists?

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:59 pm (PDT)



Good suggestions! But I don't have (and won't buy) Nisus Writer Pro. I downloaded Meld but am currently too full of painkillers to figure out how to extract the ".xz" file. Daly shot me her Excel solution right away this morning, but it either doesn't work in Office 2008 or I'm too obtuse to figure it out. There is no "Ribbon" icon in my preferences, nor can I find anything indicating the availability of a Developer tab.

So that leaves me with Jim's suggestion to use TextWrangler. I already have it, along with BBEdit, but can't find any sensible way to make it do what I want. Like I said, I'm sort of looking for the opposite of the "Find Differences" command. Jim, any tips for getting started?

Thanks all!

Dane

4f.

Re: ideas for comparing lists?

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:12 am (PDT)




On Jun 12, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Dane Robison wrote:

> I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare two text files
> �simple lists �which may contain duplicate data, and then remove
> list items that appear on the first list from the second list.

DeltaWalker ($40)
http://www.deltopia.com/

DiffMerge (free)
http://sourcegear.com/diffmerge/

> I need to send an email to a few hundred people. Time is a factor
> and I'll initially only have access to about 2/3 of the addresses
> and would like to send those immediately. About a week later I'll
> receive a list with ALL of the addresses. I'd like to find a semi-
> automated way to remove from that full list any addresses I've
> already mailed to.

The ideal tool to do all of this is:

DirectMail
http://directmailmac.com/

___________________________________________
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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

4g.

Re: ideas for comparing lists?

Posted by: "Alan Fry" ajf@afco.demon.co.uk   alanjohnfry

Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:26 am (PDT)




On 13 Jun 2012, at 06:59, Dane Robison wrote:

> Good suggestions! But I don't have (and won't buy) Nisus Writer Pro. I downloaded Meld but am currently too full of painkillers to figure out how to extract the ".xz" file. Daly shot me her Excel solution right away this morning, but it either doesn't work in Office 2008 or I'm too obtuse to figure it out. There is no "Ribbon" icon in my preferences, nor can I find anything indicating the availability of a Developer tab.
>
> So that leaves me with Jim's suggestion to use TextWrangler. I already have it, along with BBEdit, but can't find any sensible way to make it do what I want. Like I said, I'm sort of looking for the opposite of the "Find Differences" command. Jim, any tips for getting started?

There is Apple's "File Merge" which is free and part of 'Developer Tools'. It might be worth having a look -- I am assuming it is possible to download it from the 'App Store' separately without the rest of the developer stuff. I don't know if it would be better than BBEdit for your purposes.

Alan Fry

5a.

Problems with Lion

Posted by: "keith_w @dslextreme.com" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:20 pm (PDT)



Keith Whaley here…
Mid-2011 iMac, OS 10.7.3 (!), SM v. 2.9.1.

Just migrated a lot of stuff from my old iMac, which had OS 10.6.8.

One of my problems now is:

After setting up my incoming (pop3) and outgoing (.smtp) servers with the
appropriate data, it forever wants a password I can't find…
The cycle keeps asking me to enter a new password, but… I haven't a clue as
to how to do that.
Password manager has a password for .smtp, but in practice, SeaMonkey will
not accept it.

I tried almost all the others I think might work, but none have so far...
I don't know what to do next. Help?

I tried having NO passwords, but SM says that's a no-no.
I'd like to find where I can change or view what that PW is, but can't find.

kw

I have a dozen other questions that are "Where the blazes do I find
[so-and-so] item I used to have?" Such as the various Widgets? I want to be
able to access Wikipedia and Google and such things at my whim.
I found Dashboard, but it only has about half the Widgets my old OS used to
have. Stuff like that.

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5b.

Re: Problems with Lion

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:15 pm (PDT)



i had a similar problem with logging into my iMac. it wouldn't accept my password.
i think i re-installed SL, and things worked themselves out.
i got sent off for my SSD yesterday.
Withdrawal time.
maybe call the developer?
good luck.

doug
On Jun 12, 2012, at 4:20 PM, keith_w @dslextreme.com wrote:

> Keith Whaley here�br> > Mid-2011 iMac, OS 10.7.3 (!), SM v. 2.9.1.
>
> Just migrated a lot of stuff from my old iMac, which had OS 10.6.8.
>
> One of my problems now is:
>
> After setting up my incoming (pop3) and outgoing (.smtp) servers with the
> appropriate data, it forever wants a password I can't find�br> > The cycle keeps asking me to enter a new password, but�I haven't a clue as
> to how to do that.
> Password manager has a password for .smtp, but in practice, SeaMonkey will
> not accept it.
>
> I tried almost all the others I think might work, but none have so far...
> I don't know what to do next. Help?
>
> I tried having NO passwords, but SM says that's a no-no.
> I'd like to find where I can change or view what that PW is, but can't find.
>
> kw
>
> I have a dozen other questions that are "Where the blazes do I find
> [so-and-so] item I used to have?" Such as the various Widgets? I want to be
> able to access Wikipedia and Google and such things at my whim.
> I found Dashboard, but it only has about half the Widgets my old OS used to
> have. Stuff like that.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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