6/11/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8941

Messages In This Digest (19 Messages)

1a.
Re: No more space available for application memory From: Willi Miller
1b.
Re: No more space available for application memory From: Randy B. Singer
2a.
Re: Kindle books From: HAL9000
3a.
Lion and "save as" From: Patti A Robertson
3b.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Saklad
3c.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Patti A Robertson
3d.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Dave Clark
3e.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Dane Robison
3f.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Jim Saklad
3g.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Randy B. Singer
3h.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: N.A. Nada
3i.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Harry Flaxman
3j.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Daly Jessup
3k.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Patti A Robertson
3l.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: Terry Pogue
3m.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: OBrien
3n.
Re: Lion and "save as" From: N.A. Nada
4a.
Re: Yahoo! weather app From: Oneal Neumann
4b.
Re: Yahoo! weather app From: Forrest Leedy

Messages

1a.

Re: No more space available for application memory

Posted by: "Willi Miller" caribsea@bellsouth.net   caribsea@bellsouth.net

Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:58 pm (PDT)



What finally worked was shutting down, unplugging all peripherals and restarting. I'll begin plugging them in one at a time and restarting after each.
It's a 500GB HD, had 120 GB free but it started disappearing, got down to 79%. I'll keep a careful eye on it and log everything I do. Thanks to all for the advice.

Willi

1b.

Re: No more space available for application memory

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:18 pm (PDT)




On Jun 10, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Willi Miller wrote:

> What finally worked was shutting down, unplugging all peripherals
> and restarting. I'll begin plugging them in one at a time and
> restarting after each.
> It's a 500GB HD, had 120 GB free but it started disappearing, got
> down to 79%. I'll keep a careful eye on it and log everything I do.
> Thanks to all for the advice.

The problem is likely to get worse over the long run, instead of better.

See:
http://www.office.mvps.org/faq_topic/performance2.1.html

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

2a.

Re: Kindle books

Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com   jrswebhome

Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:02 pm (PDT)



> > The default format for iBooks is epub so just look for that at
> > Gutenberg.org, etc. Even if you don't find that, iBooks can read pdf, and
> > there are free ebook converters such as Calibre (which you also use as a
> > reader on Macs).
> >
> > Otto

I agree. Calibre converts to epub smoothly in Snow Leopard. But Gutenberg slips in alot of their own text junk, if anyone knows how to delete this text from the newly created epub book, I would like to hear how to delete it, not that I don't appreciate Gutenburg's work.

jr

3a.

Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Patti A Robertson" pattiandken@charter.net   parpiano

Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:24 pm (PDT)



How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?

I use that so much that I can't even begin to think about how I would live without having it available.

It's keeping me from buying a new Mac.

Thanks for any info, work-arounds or whatever!

Patti

3b.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:38 pm (PDT)



> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?

Usually -- Duplicate then Save

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3c.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Patti A Robertson" pattiandken@charter.net   parpiano

Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:00 pm (PDT)



aha - there is no duplicate in my menu - is that something new and specific to Lion?

I'm running Snow Leopard 10.6.8 on a Macbook Pro 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 with 4GB memory

Patti

On Jun 10, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?
>
> Usually -- Duplicate then Save
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3d.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Dave Clark" dc1999@gmail.com   dave24c

Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:13 pm (PDT)



Does that set of commands enable the user to re-name a document?

Dave Clark
Sent from my iPad
949-639-9418

On Jun 10, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

>> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?
>
> Usually -- Duplicate then Save
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3e.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:14 pm (PDT)



On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?
>
> Usually -- Duplicate then Save

Nothing says "we care about our users' experience" like fixing something that ain't broke, and adding steps to the process...
3f.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:16 pm (PDT)



>>> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?
>>
>> Usually -- Duplicate then Save
>
> Nothing says "we care about our users' experience" like fixing something that ain't broke, and adding steps to the process...

I guess you've never had program crash with unsaved work in it....

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3g.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:52 pm (PDT)




On Jun 10, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Patti A Robertson wrote:

> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the
> "save as" command?

Article: Learning to work with Auto Save
http://www.macworld.com/article/1163057/
learning_to_work_with_auto_save.html

To restore the Save As feature (accessed as a Service), download:

Save_As.workflow.zip (free)
https://public.me.com/pldelise
unzip it and then place it in the Services folder in your home
Library. If the folder doesn't already exist you can create it.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

3h.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:10 pm (PDT)



"Save as" is gone, get over it. (Actually I think it was just a name change.)

Command + D will duplicate, if you want to start from there and make changes. Otherwise look into versions. Copy or Duplicate, they both do the same thing.

If you want to change format from say Pages to Word, use Export. (I think it used to be called Save as.)

Geez, what was so great about "Save as" that everyone is going crazy because they can not find it and just copy the item and change the name? That is all that Save as was.

Brent

On Jun 10, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Dane Robison wrote:

On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?
>
> Usually -- Duplicate then Save

Nothing says "we care about our users' experience" like fixing something that ain't broke, and adding steps to the process...

3i.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:02 am (PDT)



On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Patti A Robertson wrote:

> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?
>
> I use that so much that I can't even begin to think about how I would live without having it available.
>
> It's keeping me from buying a new Mac.

Right from the 'get-go', most Mac periodicals recommended using 'export' to replace save as. I've had no problem doing this so far.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com

3j.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:08 am (PDT)




On Jun 10, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Patti A Robertson wrote:

> aha - there is no duplicate in my menu - is that something new and specific to Lion?
>
> I'm running Snow Leopard 10.6.8 on a Macbook Pro 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 with 4GB memory

Yes, I believe it came in with Lion. And one of the articles someone recommended last time this came up showed me an advantage: with Duplicate, you get to see both the original and the new copy on the screen at the same time before you commit to saving the new copy.

Daly
3k.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Patti A Robertson" pattiandken@charter.net   parpiano

Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:30 am (PDT)



Thanks to you all!

Patti

On Jun 11, 2012, at 6:08 AM, Daly Jessup wrote:

>
> On Jun 10, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Patti A Robertson wrote:
>
> > aha - there is no duplicate in my menu - is that something new and specific to Lion?
> >
> > I'm running Snow Leopard 10.6.8 on a Macbook Pro 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 with 4GB memory
>
> Yes, I believe it came in with Lion. And one of the articles someone recommended last time this came up showed me an advantage: with Duplicate, you get to see both the original and the new copy on the screen at the same time before you commit to saving the new copy.
>
> Daly
>
>

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3l.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:22 am (PDT)



I think the main beef us having to go back to the file you just copied to name the thing. I mostly just use export. Wish it worked in Text edit tho.
Terry

Sent from my iPadHD

On Jun 11, 2012, at 2:10 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Save as" is gone, get over it. (Actually I think it was just a name change.)
>
> Command + D will duplicate, if you want to start from there and make changes. Otherwise look into versions. Copy or Duplicate, they both do the same thing.
>
> If you want to change format from say Pages to Word, use Export. (I think it used to be called Save as.)
>
> Geez, what was so great about "Save as" that everyone is going crazy because they can not find it and just copy the item and change the name? That is all that Save as was.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Dane Robison wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>> How do you people who are using Lion deal with the lack of the "save as" command?
>>
>> Usually -- Duplicate then Save
>
> Nothing says "we care about our users' experience" like fixing something that ain't broke, and adding steps to the process...
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

3m.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:40 am (PDT)



I wonder what Apple thought was wrong with "Save As". It seems like such a user-friendly, logical, reasonable, and desirable capability.


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3n.

Re: Lion and "save as"

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:58 am (PDT)



You don't understand Apple.

It is not what is wrong, but how can we do it better. And sometimes that creates a learning curve or change for hardwired habits of the users.

To borrow from the now defunct Oldsmobile, "This isn't your father's OS. Think Different."

Brent- an old stick in the mud

On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:40 AM, OBrien wrote:

I wonder what Apple thought was wrong with "Save As". It seems like such a user-friendly, logical, reasonable, and desirable capability.

4a.

Re: Yahoo! weather app

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:15 am (PDT)




Not sure how or when it happened, however I now have a Yahoo! weather-app button on my Safari browser� toolbar. That� okay now that I�e relocated to Hungary. I use it a bit.

Things are fine with it for the most part. I set it so that a button click opens to my part (Csepel) of Budapest. What is annoying is that the page constantly opens in Fahrenheit, which I have not dealt with for about four decades.

Even though I am conversant with the American standard, how do I get Yahoo! to open in Centigrade? Currently it says 66�F, which converts (per a button click) to 19�C.

I want it to open this way every time. Thanx. Oneal

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4b.

Re: Yahoo! weather app

Posted by: "Forrest Leedy" f.leedy@comcast.net   forrkazu

Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:18 am (PDT)



This sounds a lot like a Safari extension. I have no idea where you got it from as I could not find it under Safari extension list nor Yahoo. However, if it is an extensions you should be able to find it in the Safari preferences under the extension icon.

Forrest

鵃�iMac 27" 12,2
3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
OS 10.7.4 Lion

鵃�MacBook 2,1
2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo
2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
OS 10.7.4 Lion

On Jun 11, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:

> Not sure how or when it happened, however I now have a Yahoo! weather-app button on my Safari browser�� toolbar. That�� okay now that I��e relocated to Hungary. I use it a bit.
>
> Things are fine with it for the most part. I set it so that a button click opens to my part (Csepel) of Budapest. What is annoying is that the page constantly opens in Fahrenheit, which I have not dealt with for about four decades.
>
> Even though I am conversant with the American standard, how do I get Yahoo! to open in Centigrade? Currently it says 66ç¹™ F, which converts (per a button click) to 19ç¹™ C.
>
> I want it to open this way every time. Thanx. Oneal

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