6/28/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8968

20 New Messages
Digest #8968
by "Jay Abraham" kerala01212001
by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
by "Bob Cook" cookrd1
by "Bob Cook" cookrd1
by "N.A. Nada"
by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
by "pat412255" pat412255
by "John Richardson"
by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
by "titnaw" titnaw
by "John Masters" joemastersk
by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
by "titnaw" titnaw

Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:
Bob,

AFAIK it doesn't sync the documents folder. I like you have hundreds of GB and I hardly use up any of my iCloud free storage. I think if you click this then whatever Apple apps that share documents will transmit it through iCloud. I believe these are apps like Pages and iWork.

Jay

On Jun 27, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Robert wrote:

> I finally got around to setting up iCloud on my laptop macs. However, I immediately ran into a problem/question. iCloud lets you select what is synced/uploaded to it, and one of the options is Documents. Maybe I don't understand how this works, but it appears that if I select Documents, everything in y Documents folder will be sent to iCloud. Is this correct? I have 95 GB in my Documents folder on just one MBP, and I certainly don't want all of this sent to iCloud. I would like to be able to select what files are folders are sent to iCloud - is this possible?
> Thanks,
> Bob

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
> I finally got around to setting up iCloud on my laptop macs. However, I immediately ran into a problem/question. iCloud lets you select what is synced/uploaded to it, and one of the options is Documents. Maybe I don't understand how this works, but it appears that if I select Documents, everything in my Documents folder will be sent to iCloud. Is this correct?

No.

<http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/documents.html>
> Apps made for iCloud.
> iCloud is already seamlessly integrated with the Apple iWork apps for your iOS devices — Pages,Keynote, and Numbers. And we've given developers the tools to make their apps work with iCloud, too. So you can do things like paint a masterpiece, edit stock lists, and more — and have it all with you on all your devices, including your Mac or PC.

Presently, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote documents can synch between OS devices via the cloud, and are available when you login at icloud.com and click on iWorks.

With Mountain Lion, there will be more and better integration, but from what I've read, never what you fear above.

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
On Wednesday, June 27, 2012, Jay Abraham wrote:

> **
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> AFAIK it doesn't sync the documents folder. I like you have hundreds of GB
> and I hardly use up any of my iCloud free storage. I think if you click
> this then whatever Apple apps that share documents will transmit it through
> iCloud. I believe these are apps like Pages and iWork.
>
Thanks, Jay, that makes sense. I will put some iWork, MS Office, text and
PDFs in th Document folder on my MBPNand see what happens.
How exciting!
Bob

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
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> Thanks, Jim.

Bob

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Jim, with the types of documents that it currently works with, is it all or nothing of one type of doc or can you chose individual docs of the currently working types.

In other words, can I chose 3 Numbers docs and 5 Page docs, and leave the rest alone?

Brent

On Jun 27, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> I finally got around to setting up iCloud on my laptop macs. However, I immediately ran into a problem/question. iCloud lets you select what is synced/uploaded to it, and one of the options is Documents. Maybe I don't understand how this works, but it appears that if I select Documents, everything in my Documents folder will be sent to iCloud. Is this correct?

No.

<http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/documents.html>
> Apps made for iCloud.
> iCloud is already seamlessly integrated with the Apple iWork apps for your iOS devices — Pages,Keynote, and Numbers. And we've given developers the tools to make their apps work with iCloud, too. So you can do things like paint a masterpiece, edit stock lists, and more — and have it all with you on all your devices, including your Mac or PC.

Presently, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote documents can synch between OS devices via the cloud, and are available when you login at icloud.com and click on iWorks.

With Mountain Lion, there will be more and better integration, but from what I've read, never what you fear above.

Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
> Jim, with the types of documents that it currently works with, is it all or nothing of one type of doc or can you chose individual docs of the currently working types.
>
> In other words, can I chose 3 Numbers docs and 5 Page docs, and leave the rest alone?
>
> Brent

At present, I am only regularly messing with one spreadsheet on iPad and Mac. There are MANY on the Mac that just live *there*, unshared.

If I load some other document from Dropbox into Pages or Numbers on the iPad, they will automatically be synced with my iPhone (when I open the parent program). Under Lion there isn't an automatic iCloud document sync with the Mac.

Just today I wanted to work on the Mac with a doc in the cloud. I opened icloud.com in Safari, went to iWork in the cloud, tapped the program (Numbers in this case), selected the document, clicked it, and said I wanted to open it in Numbers. It downloaded to the Mac and opened in Numbers.

It is my understanding that synchronization will be more automatic in Mountain Lion, but as I don't have it yet <grin> I can't say exactly *how*. There is a specific directory for syncing located at ~/Library/Mobile Documents, so presumably only the documents put there will sync to iOS devices, and conversely as well.

So I guess the clean answer to your question is "individual docs"....

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:
I would appreciate learning what steps you take & the results if you wouldn't mind sharing.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, T Hopkins <hoplist@...> wrote:
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> Hmmm. I want to do the opposite. I like the way Gmail behaves. I want my other IMAP to behave the way Gmail behaves. But your suggestion of looking at the IMAP service provider end for the proper config is a good one. I did not think of that. I'll do that.
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> Cheers,
> tod
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> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
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> On Jun 27, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
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> > i'll be an early bird, and say, to get gmail in your mail inbox, go to google, and fix the situation there.
> > that's what i did several years ago, and it still works. how, i can't say, but DD probably can.
> > i can't remember last week, let alone much else.
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> > > I gather multiple accounts using Apple Mail. Most are POP and all come to the unified Inbox. One is Gmail. This does not show in the unified Inbox. I've just added another IMAP account and this does show in the unified Inbox, but I don't want it to.
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> > > It seems wrong to move my incoming IMAP mail from the "Inbox" automatically with a rule. I want incoming mail in the IMAP inbox. I just don't want to see it unified with all my other incoming mail.
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
As far as I can tell, the unified Inbox is not an option. You can view everything at once, or spin down and view all independently, but you can't be selective. The unified view contains all accounts. This behavior is the same whether the account is POP or IMAP.

I was mislead by Gmail because Gmail has the "All Mail" view, which seems like an "Inbox" but isn't. In fact, my Gmail mail was appearing in the unified Inbox and I just hadn't noticed.

So I created a "rule" to automatically move all incoming mail for that one account to another folder in the IMAP account. The consequence of this is that any mail retrieved by Mail will be moved out of the Inbox on the server as well. This could be good or bad depending on your needs. In my case, this is not necessarily a bad thing.

In most cases, this would be unnecessary. But in this case, having that mail clutter the unified Inbox was a hassle.

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com

On Jun 27, 2012, at 1:02 PM, pat412255 wrote:

> I would appreciate learning what steps you take & the results if you wouldn't mind sharing.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, T Hopkins <hoplist@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm. I want to do the opposite. I like the way Gmail behaves. I want my other IMAP to behave the way Gmail behaves. But your suggestion of looking at the IMAP service provider end for the proper config is a good one. I did not think of that. I'll do that.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
> >
> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
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> > On Jun 27, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
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> > > i'll be an early bird, and say, to get gmail in your mail inbox, go to google, and fix the situation there.
> > > that's what i did several years ago, and it still works. how, i can't say, but DD probably can.
> > > i can't remember last week, let alone much else.
> > >
> > > good luck,
> > >
> > > doug
> > > Doug Yelmen
> > > dougyelmen@...
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> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/riverrat68/
> > >
> > > http://www.postmodernart.com/
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> > > On Jun 27, 2012, at 6:14 AM, T Hopkins wrote:
> > >
> > > > I gather multiple accounts using Apple Mail. Most are POP and all come to the unified Inbox. One is Gmail. This does not show in the unified Inbox. I've just added another IMAP account and this does show in the unified Inbox, but I don't want it to.
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Oops,

Mixing lists... Paul sent to the X4U list...

Synopsis

If you or your kids need to now about their highways:
http://orbis.stanford.edu/

Paul Moortgat
_______________________________________________

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[mailto:macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Crymble
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:45 PM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [macsupport] Mapping software

John I can't find that post. Can you post a link to this.

Thanks

hugh

On TuesdayJun 26, 2012, at TueJun/26/12 6:37 PM, John Richardson wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Cleaning out my email.
>
> Remember the Roman Roads email post by Moortgat in May.....
>
> It's a web services mapping for historical cartography. However, it is an
> example of a web service that has a lot of general background on general
> cartography and mapping.
>
> John F. Richardson

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Hi all,

Just synced after changing the titles of some of my PDF documents stored in iBooks. The documents disappeared from the iPad but show up still in the Books section of iTunes. It does not show up in the area of the iPad where I can select additional books to by synced.

Operating on a MacMini, OS 10.7.4

Any help appreciated, I need to go to a business meeting with these PDFs on my iPad tomorrow.

Jay
Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
May have been a wireless sync issue. When I plugged into the MacMini instead of syncing wirelessly, the PDFs showed up again in iTunes for the iPad and was then able to select and then sync to the iPad.

Jay
On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just synced after changing the titles of some of my PDF documents stored in iBooks. The documents disappeared from the iPad but show up still in the Books section of iTunes. It does not show up in the area of the iPad where I can select additional books to by synced.
>
> Operating on a MacMini, OS 10.7.4
>
> Any help appreciated, I need to go to a business meeting with these PDFs on my iPad tomorrow.
>
> Jay
>
>

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
> Just synced after changing the titles of some of my PDF documents stored in iBooks. The documents disappeared from the iPad but show up still in the Books section of iTunes.

Are they checked for syncing, in iTunes, with their new names?

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
The problem was that they didn't show up at all in the list of books available for syncing to the iPad (neither with their old or new names), they did show up in iTunes Book section.

Jay
On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > Just synced after changing the titles of some of my PDF documents stored in iBooks. The documents disappeared from the iPad but show up still in the Books section of iTunes.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:
My question concerns LANs and laptops. I have enet LANs at home and at work with computers running 10.6 or 10.7. I generally use wi-fi to connect my laptops to the LANs. But sometimes I have large amounts of data to transfer and want to use enet for speed. When I plug my laptop into the enet switch, how do I tell it to use enet instead of wi-fi? How do I know it is using enet instead of wi-fi? Do I have to turn wi-fi off on the laptop to force this?

TIA,
Bill

Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:20 am (PDT) . Posted by:
Howdy.

A good question and an easy but perhaps not obvious answer.

Ethernet or WiFi?

You Mac has a place where network services are shown. Go to System
Preferences > Network panel.

On left side of Network panel is a list of network services. The items
you see here depend on what your Mac model has for networking. You
should see:

Ethernet
Wi-Fi
FireWire

Note that "Wi-Fi" is a recent term change and earlier OS X version
would show the same thing as AirPort.

The MacPro tower has two Ethernet ports so you would see Ethernet 1 and
Ethernet 2 on a MacPro tower.

This list of services is also a pecking or priority order. The service
listed at the top of the list is what your Mac tries first for a
network.

In recent versions of Mac OS X, you can change the pecking order by
using the Gear icon & the Set Service Order command. You would need to
unlock and Authenticate first.

Also in recent Mac OS X versions the pecking order will automatically
change depending on what you turn on. For example, if you plug into
Ethernet and then turn WiFi/AirPort off the Ethernet service should
move to the top of the Service list.

- - - - -

A couple of tricks. If you click the Wi-Fi (AirPort) service and then
check the box at right named Show Wi-Fi status in Menu bar, the
Wi-Fi/AirPort menu appears on Menu bar at top right. Looks like a fan
or radio waves propagating upward. You can use this menu to turn Wi-Fi
on and off in a click. If you connect to Ethernet and turn Wi-Fi off
you know you are linked over Ethernet.

In the Services pane of Network panel, an active service will have a
green bullet next to the service name. Red bullet means off or not
connected. A yellow bullet means there may be a problem which is
usually connected to an IP address from a router.

I think you could also create a Location in the Network panel. Or more
than one Location. Location also means "method of connection" and not
just a physical location. When you do this you should see a new
Locations menu/command appear under the Apple menu which you can use
for quick access to make this change. One Location could be for WiFi,
another for Ethernet, a third for Starbucks, a fourth for some kind of
VPN connection.

Most folks on a home network don't need to use Locations, however, but
it may be worth exploring as a convenience.

Denver Dan

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:19:19 -0500, Bill B. wrote:
> My question concerns LANs and laptops. I have enet LANs at home and
> at work with computers running 10.6 or 10.7. I generally use wi-fi to
> connect my laptops to the LANs. But sometimes I have large amounts of
> data to transfer and want to use enet for speed. When I plug my
> laptop into the enet switch, how do I tell it to use enet instead of
> wi-fi? How do I know it is using enet instead of wi-fi? Do I have to
> turn wi-fi off on the laptop to force this?
>
> TIA,
> Bill

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:55 am (PDT) . Posted by:
I have a DVD that works on my PC (it is a copy I made)
It will not work on a mac?
any idea why.
I have the original DVD and it will play on my MaC
Do I need to make a Mac DVD???
Do you know of any good DVD Burners?

Thanks
I am still trying to learn the Mac system
Titnaw

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:58 am (PDT) . Posted by:
Most likely is that you did not 'finalise' the DVD after copying it. It would still play on the machine that made the copy but not anywhere else. Will it play in an ordinary DVD player?

John

On 28 Jun 2012, at 14:37, titnaw wrote:

> I have a DVD that works on my PC (it is a copy I made)
> It will not work on a mac?
> any idea why.
> I have the original DVD and it will play on my MaC
> Do I need to make a Mac DVD???
> Do you know of any good DVD Burners?
>
> Thanks
> I am still trying to learn the Mac system
> Titnaw
>
>

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Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
Howdy.

I don't know why it won't play on your Mac but John M might have a good
answer for that.

You can burn CDs and DVDs on your Mac with the built in software.

You can also make DVD movies using a combo of built in programs like
iMovie and iDVD.

You can burn data CDs and data DVDs just by inserting a blank CD or
DVD, dragging files to the icon on the Desktop, then using the burn
command under the Finder's File menu.

You can also use Disk Utility to erase rewritable CDs and DVDs (CD-RW
and DVD-RW).

You can use Disk Utility to burn disk image files to a DVD.

For commercial movie DVDs, it's more complex.

If you intended to use a CD or DVD on more than one computer, best
practice is to use CD-R or DVD-R discs and not use CD and DVD RW
(rewritable discs).

If you want to have more convenience and a wider variety of burning,
editing, copying, capabilities look in the Roxio Toast Titanium
commercial burning program.

Denver Dan

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:37:06 +0000, titnaw wrote:
> I have a DVD that works on my PC (it is a copy I made)
> It will not work on a mac?
> any idea why.
> I have the original DVD and it will play on my MaC
> Do I need to make a Mac DVD???
> Do you know of any good DVD Burners?
>
> Thanks
> I am still trying to learn the Mac system
> Titnaw

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:
I have 3 Macs at home. I have found copies that are burned on one Mac may not work on another. It seems like my MBP does not track in the same spot as the other two. It will read commercial discs, and only a few of my copies.

On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:58 AM, John Masters wrote:

Most likely is that you did not 'finalise' the DVD after copying it. It would still play on the machine that made the copy but not anywhere else. Will it play in an ordinary DVD player?

John

On 28 Jun 2012, at 14:37, titnaw wrote:

> I have a DVD that works on my PC (it is a copy I made)
> It will not work on a mac?
> any idea why.
> I have the original DVD and it will play on my MaC
> Do I need to make a Mac DVD???
> Do you know of any good DVD Burners?
>
> Thanks
> I am still trying to learn the Mac system
> Titnaw
>
>

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Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:
Thanks i made a second copy and yes this copy works on my Mac,
THANK YOU for your help. I never knew about IMovies or IDVD.
It looks like I have to buy IDVD is that correct. What I want to do now is to copy this disk I made.
Thanks
Titnaw

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> I don't know why it won't play on your Mac but John M might have a good
> answer for that.
>
> You can burn CDs and DVDs on your Mac with the built in software.
>
> You can also make DVD movies using a combo of built in programs like
> iMovie and iDVD.
>
> You can burn data CDs and data DVDs just by inserting a blank CD or
> DVD, dragging files to the icon on the Desktop, then using the burn
> command under the Finder's File menu.
>
> You can also use Disk Utility to erase rewritable CDs and DVDs (CD-RW
> and DVD-RW).
>
> You can use Disk Utility to burn disk image files to a DVD.
>
> For commercial movie DVDs, it's more complex.
>
> If you intended to use a CD or DVD on more than one computer, best
> practice is to use CD-R or DVD-R discs and not use CD and DVD RW
> (rewritable discs).
>
> If you want to have more convenience and a wider variety of burning,
> editing, copying, capabilities look in the Roxio Toast Titanium
> commercial burning program.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:37:06 +0000, titnaw wrote:
> > I have a DVD that works on my PC (it is a copy I made)
> > It will not work on a mac?
> > any idea why.
> > I have the original DVD and it will play on my MaC
> > Do I need to make a Mac DVD???
> > Do you know of any good DVD Burners?
> >
> > Thanks
> > I am still trying to learn the Mac system
> > Titnaw
>

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