Messages In This Digest (14 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Lion upgrades after Mountain Lion From: Jim Saklad
- 1b.
- Re: Lion upgrades after Mountain Lion From: Brimac
- 1c.
- Re: Lion upgrades after Mountain Lion From: Michael King
- 1d.
- Re: Lion upgrades after Mountain Lion From: Steve B.
- 2a.
- Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search From: Earle Jones
- 2b.
- Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search From: Brimac
- 2c.
- Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search From: Anna Larson
- 2d.
- Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search From: Anna Larson
- 2e.
- Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search From: LouisD
- 2f.
- Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search From: Anna Larson
- 3a.
- Re: AutoFill assistance From: HAL9000
- 4a.
- Background "wallpaper" From: Earle Jones
- 4b.
- Re: Background "wallpaper" From: John Engberg
- 4c.
- Re: Background "wallpaper" From: Earle Jones
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: Lion upgrades after Mountain Lion
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:37 am (PDT)
>> As I understand it, if you can run 10.6.8, you can run 10.7 or 10.8.
>
> Yes As long as the Mac can boot into 64 bit you will be able to go from Snow Leopard and go into Mountain Lion
I just happened to check this out for another forum.
Every Mac Pro, every Macbook Air, every Macbook, Macbook Pro, and iMac since about 9,10,11/2006, and every Mac Mini since 8/2007 can boot into 64-bit.
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Re: Lion upgrades after Mountain Lion
Posted by: "Brimac" brmc@olypen.com cuatro.calla
Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:17 pm (PDT)
huh...?
...you will be able to go from Snow
> Leopard and go into Mountain Lion but the other max out Ram if you can
> Mountain Lion Like Ram.
- 1c.
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Re: Lion upgrades after Mountain Lion
Posted by: "Michael King" michaelking8@sbcglobal.net prudencehalliwell507
Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:45 pm (PDT)
Yes you can go from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion with no Problems. I am
running Developer Pre View Of Mountain Lion And it runs better on Max Out
Ram in your Computer.
Mike
On 6/21/12 6:16 PM, "Brimac" <brmc@olypen.com > wrote:
> huh...?
>
>
> ...you will be able to go from Snow
>> Leopard and go into Mountain Lion but the other max out Ram if you can
>> Mountain Lion Like Ram.
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>
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> --------------------- --------- ------
>
Michael King
2.6GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro
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Re: Lion upgrades after Mountain Lion
Posted by: "Steve B." macosx@xebrawerx.com xebrawerx
Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:30 am (PDT)
I compared the published hardware specs for Mountain Lion and Lion and ML appears to require newer hardware.
If in the *real world* Mountain Lion will run on any Mac that already runs Lion then this will be a very good thing.
Steve B.
On Jun 20, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Steve B. wrote:
Apologies if this has been discussed here already.
With Mountain Lion coming, some people may need to move to Lion sooner than later because their hardware may not run Mountain Lion. Considering the importance of iCloud this could be a BIG deal.
Example: If you go to buy Lion in the Mac App Store for incompatible hardware it will not let you.
After July 19th: If you go to buy Lion for compatible hardware **after** Mountain Lion ships, might they offer to install Lion instead?
Steve B.
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Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search
Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net earlejones501
Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:25 am (PDT)
On Jun 21, 12, at 5:26 AM, Anna Larson wrote:
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> On 20.06.2012, at 16:19, LouisD wrote:
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>> I have had problems with Spotlight searches lately. I can search for a file that I KNOW is in my Home folder (nested many layers deep), but Spotlight just doesn't find it.
>
>
> Hello Lou,
>
> Spotlight is NOT meant to find everything. This has been discussed at length here on the list.
>
>> I was looking for a file nested about 6 folders deep in my home/library/application support/... folder. It is not a hidden file, but it just doesn't show up.
>
> Files in the Libraries are normally excluded from Spotlight searches –, for practical reasons. I say "normally" because there are exceptions. In OS 10.7.4 I can for example find webplugins in the Home Library using Spotlight although most other file types will not be found.
>
> Since Tiger Spotlight has become better and better with every new release of the OS. I remember having had issues with Spotlight in Tiger which then disappeared when I updated to Snow Leopard. Now – in OS 10.7.4 – I find it reliable and extremely powerful after it has been correctly customized.
>
> You can use BOOLEAN searches or narrow the search down to a single file type by using "kind:".
>
> To find only Applications enter…
> kind:application
> kind:applications
> kind:app
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The "Spotlight" search kernel is a fabulous resource.
However, many find it's front-end GUI to be a bit awkward and non-intuitive.
There are several third-party add-ons that make the front-end a bit easier to use but still take advantage of the search kernel.
I use "NotLight" by Matt Neuburg. Available (free) at:
http://www.macupdate.com/app/ mac/20543/ notlight
There are others that you might try.
Good luck!
earle
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- 2b.
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Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search
Posted by: "Brimac" brmc@olypen.com cuatro.calla
Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:07 pm (PDT)
Here is what I get on the first level search for Pages docs:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10720753/ Screen%20Shot% 202012-06- 21%20at%204. 01.43%20PM. jpg
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@...com > wrote:
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> On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Anna Larson wrote:
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> >
> > On 21.06.2012, at 15:26, Forrest Leedy wrote:
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> >>
> >> I found this very interesting and informative, but I also noted something rather odd about the Spotlight available list of searches. Isn’t it odd that all iWork files are included in the search criteria except Pages. Why did Apple exclude pages!?!
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I'm not quite sure what you mean. Look at this:
> >
> > http://minus.com/mk9ni3dPt/
> >
> >
> > You first type Command + F in Finder.
> > Then choose "Document" as file type from the 'Kind' pop-down menu
> > Then you type "pa" into the "Search for" field (you can also type the full word 'page', but it's not necessary)
> >
> > From the drop-down menu you choose "Kinds Pages Document"
> >
> > And Spotlight will find all your Page documents.
> >
> > Your search should look like this:
> >
> > http://minus.com/mk9ni3dPt/ 2
> >
> >
> > Anna Larson
> > OS X 10.7.4
> > MacBook Pro 17''
>
> Okay, using your original concept of using “ kind: “ which is related to the system preferences on spotlight. The list that the kind: searches on is in the preference "search resultsâ€. That list includes the iWorks files of Number and Presentations but not Pages.
>
> What you describe above is a work around and not a direct locate for that type of file. My question is why would they do what they did for numbers and presentation and not pages.
>
>
> Forrest
>
>  iMac 27" 12,2
> 3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
> 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
> OS 10.7.4 Lion
>
>  MacBook 2,1
> 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo
> 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
> OS 10.7.4 Lion
>
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Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search
Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:09 am (PDT)
On 21.06.2012, at 17:04, Forrest Leedy wrote:
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> What you describe above is a work around and not a direct locate for that type of file. My question is why would they do what they did for numbers and presentation and not pages.
I understand your point. I think it is a good question.
Anna
- 2d.
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Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search
Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:41 am (PDT)
On 21.06.2012, at 17:57, T Hopkins wrote:
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> On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Anna Larson wrote:
>>
>> Just remember that these 2 folders here
>>
>> http://minus.com/mzeWSrdVF/
>>
>> plus the Library folder in your User folder (inclusive your "Favorites" folder !!!!)
>>
>> are TABOO for Spotlight.
>>
> There are direct way of searching these folders (at least partially):
>
> Method 1 - For finding settings, pref, plug-ins, etc...:
>
> Start with a folder search so you can see the parameter line (or "Show All" from Spotlight search box).
>
> Now on the far right of the parameters, there is a "+" symbol to add more search parameters. Click it.
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> This adds another line of search filters.
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> In the far left pull down, select "Other"
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> In the box that appears, scroll down to "System Files" and select this.
>
> In the next pulldown, select "are included."
>
> Now your search will include the most likely files in your library folders, such a preference and plug-in files.
You are absolutely right. Thanks for mentioning this. With all kinds of tricks it�s amazing how much one can do with Spotlight. -- But one should keep in mind that there are some minor differences between Spotlight in Lion, Snow Leopard � and Tiger. At least some features that did not work for me in earlier versions are now working like a charm in OS 10.7.4.
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> Method 3 - explicit syntax:
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> Using explicit search syntax includes restricted folders, at least sometimes. Examples
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> to find Archive Utility:
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> filename:archive
>
> or, if the filename has spaces:
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> filename:"archive utility"
>
> kind:aperture library
VERY good! I forgot to mention "filename:" Thanks for adding this information. Very helpful indeed! With "filename:" we can search items in the folders I had previously excluded while doing normal search with Command + Space.
Anna
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Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search
Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com ldina
Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:05 am (PDT)
Todd, that was a good post and very helpful.
I followed "Method 1" as you outlined below, but added a few steps at the end.
1. I created a search, included "System" and also "Visible/Invisible" files.
2. I set it to search for File Name instead of Contents.
3. I removed my search word from the search window (so it would be blank) and "SAVED" the search as "Search incl System and Invisibles".
4. That added the saved search to my Sidebar so it is readily available, without having to go through multiple steps.
Now, if I ever need to do a search without exclusions, I just click on that and type my search phrase into the search window. Much more convenient. Still room for improvement and flexibility, but a definite step forward.
Thanks,
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , T Hopkins <hoplist@...com > wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Anna Larson wrote:
> >
> > Just remember that these 2 folders here
> >
> > http://minus.com/mzeWSrdVF/
> >
> > plus the Library folder in your User folder (inclusive your "Favorites" folder !!!!)
> >
> > are TABOO for Spotlight.
> >
> There are direct way of searching these folders (at least partially):
>
> Method 1 - For finding settings, pref, plug-ins, etc...:
>
> Start with a folder search so you can see the parameter line (or "Show All" from Spotlight search box).
>
> Now on the far right of the parameters, there is a "+" symbol to add more search parameters. Click it.
>
> This adds another line of search filters.
>
> In the far left pull down, select "Other"
>
> In the box that appears, scroll down to "System Files" and select this.
>
> In the next pulldown, select "are included."
>
> Now your search will include the most likely files in your library folders, such a preference and plug-in files.
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Re: Need Help with Spotlight Search
Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:29 am (PDT)
On 21.06.2012, at 19:25, Earle Jones wrote:
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> I use "NotLight" by Matt Neuburg. Available (free) at:
>
> http://www.macupdate.com/app/ mac/20543/ notlight
How do you find invisible files with NotLight?
Anna
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Re: AutoFill assistance
Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com jrswebhome
Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:11 pm (PDT)
Search Google and download "Safari Autofill Prefs"
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , "bobbystar" <bobbystar@.com ..> wrote:
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> OK, I looked everywhere but Safari. MY contact info is correct and has been but the auto fill does not fill in the state I live in on all forms that I have used.
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> Not that big a deal but it is a hassle to find Pennsylvania on a drop down list when the brains of the Web insist that Palau has top billing (How many people live in Palau?).
>
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@com > wrote:
> >
> > Safari is picking up info from your Address Book. I like "Safari Autofill Prefs" to fine-tune what autofill chooses first.
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , "bobbystar" <bobbystar@> wrote:com
> > >
> > > When I am filling out a web based form autofill pops up and I use it.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to edit the information? Where and how do I edit the info?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > Bobby
> > >
> >
>
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Background "wallpaper"
Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net earlejones501
Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:11 pm (PDT)
*
In 10.7 Lion, click on "Mission Control" and take a look at the background "wallpaper."
It is a very nice dark grey linen look.
Where can I find that background to use as my standard desktop wallpaper?
Thanks!
earle
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Earle Jones
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@comcast.net
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Re: Background "wallpaper"
Posted by: "John Engberg" mrbyte@earthlink.net mrmacbyte
Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:38 pm (PDT)
On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
> *
> In 10.7 Lion, click on "Mission Control" and take a look at the background "wallpaper."
>
> It is a very nice dark grey linen look.
>
> Where can I find that background to use as my standard desktop wallpaper?
>
> Thanks!
>
> earle
> *
I just read the answer to your query here, Earle:
http://osxdaily.com/2011/ 08/12/change- mission-control- background- wallpaper- image-mac- os-x/
John Engberg
- 4c.
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Re: Background "wallpaper"
Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net earlejones501
Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:41 pm (PDT)
On Jun 21, 12, at 2:38 PM, John Engberg wrote:
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> On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Earle Jones wrote:
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> > *
> > In 10.7 Lion, click on "Mission Control" and take a look at the background "wallpaper."
> >
> > It is a very nice dark grey linen look.
> >
> > Where can I find that background to use as my standard desktop wallpaper?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > earle
> > *
>
> I just read the answer to your query here, Earle:
>
> http://osxdaily.com/2011/ 08/12/change- mission-control- background- wallpaper- image-mac- os-x/
>
> John Engberg
*
John: Many thanks!
earle
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Earle Jones
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@comcast.net
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