6/17/2012

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:21 am (PDT)



At 11:42 AM -0400 6/17/12, Denver Dan wrote:
>So I wonder what the good and the bad of that might be? Could it. Be cheaper to make by standardizing on one port technology?

My main problem with these is no 17". I will have trouble reading 1920x1200 in 15" and I like to get 2 pages side by side in browsers and other docs.

And, what will I do with all of my Firewire devices?

>Does the purchaser have to buy the adapter separately to have Ethernet?

Yes $29.00

>What is a MagSafe 2 power port? The "2" part?

For the Magsafe 2 power cord, not backwards compatible, a PITA.

Bill

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:24 am (PDT)



I try not to drool over mere computers but this one nearly does it.
<http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/>

Flash memory makes it super-thin all over, not just in a wedge shape like
the Air, and 256 GB is enough for me.

Adapters for ethernet and FireWire are not included: you have to buy them
as extras. We have no regular need for ethernet on our notebooks and USB 2
will do instead of FW for monthly clone updates (I wonder if Apple's
adoption of USB 3 – at last – means that USB *2* performance will now at
last match that on PCs, bringing it closer to FW400?).

I'm slightly surprised that an HDMI port is built-in rather than using a TB
adapter, but that's all good.

Magsafe 2 is a narrower-but-longer connector for the thinner case.
<
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/11/apple-magsafe-vs-magsafe-2-photos-incompatible-power-connectors/
>

No SuperDrive and we'll still need something to import CDs into iTunes:
either get an external one or keep an old notebook.

Overall, this is the first notebook that looks a leap forward rather than
just an evolution of my ageing PowerBook!

Otto

On 17 June 2012 16:42, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> I just read Otto's comment about the new MacBook Pro laptop (I think it
> was just a bit of the British version of a drool :-) ). It prompted me to
> go look at the tech specs.
>
> The TWO Thunderbolt ports AND adapters included strike me more than
> anything else.
>
> MagSafe 2 power port
> Two Thunderbolt ports (up to 10 Gbps)
> Two USB 3 ports (up to 5 Gbps)
> HDMI port
> Headphone port
> SDXC card slot
> Apple Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (sold separately)
> Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter (sold separately, available July)
>
> No dedicated Ethernet port.
>
> So I wonder what the good and the bad of that might be? Could it. Be
> cheaper to make by standardizing on one port technology?
>
> Does the purchaser have to buy the adapter separately to have Ethernet?
>
> What is a MagSafe 2 power port? The "2" part?
>

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:37 am (PDT)



On 17 June 2012 17:20, Bill B. <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> My main problem with these is no 17". I will have trouble reading
> 1920x1200 in 15" and I like to get 2 pages side by side in browsers and
> other docs.
>

Use a 15" closer than you would a 17" or an iMac?

>
> And, what will I do with all of my Firewire devices?
>

Use USB 2 for now (are there any FW devices that don't also have USB?); and
with Apple adopting USB 3, we can hope that Apple USB *2* performance is
better than it was and closer to FW400.

>
> For the Magsafe 2 power cord, not backwards compatible, a PITA.
>

I think it's the same electrically, just using a narrower, longer connector
to fit the slimmer case.

Otto

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:39 am (PDT)



PS Or use TB adapters with your FW devices.

On 17 June 2012 17:37, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 17 June 2012 17:20, Bill B. <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> My main problem with these is no 17". I will have trouble reading
>> 1920x1200 in 15" and I like to get 2 pages side by side in browsers and
>> other docs.
>>
>
> Use a 15" closer than you would a 17" or an iMac?
>
>>
>> And, what will I do with all of my Firewire devices?
>>
>
> Use USB 2 for now (are there any FW devices that don't also have USB?);
> and with Apple adopting USB 3, we can hope that Apple USB *2* performance
> is better than it was and closer to FW400.
>
>
>>
>> For the Magsafe 2 power cord, not backwards compatible, a PITA.
>>
>
> I think it's the same electrically, just using a narrower, longer
> connector to fit the slimmer case.
>
> Otto
>
>

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:03 am (PDT)



Get a Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter. Some have now been available
for almost a year.

Denver Dan

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:37:03 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>> And, what will I do with all of my Firewire devices?

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:26 am (PDT)



With that resolution, you might be surprised what you might be able to read. I can place two docs side by side and read them.

As far as your FW peripherals, why replace them or find an adapter, of course. Standardizing to one port, will be fine...
until it is superseded as it always is. Remember when BT was cutting edge and now it is ho hum? Or SCSI?

Brent

On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Bill B. wrote:

At 11:42 AM -0400 6/17/12, Denver Dan wrote:
>So I wonder what the good and the bad of that might be? Could it. Be cheaper to make by standardizing on one port technology?

My main problem with these is no 17". I will have trouble reading 1920x1200 in 15" and I like to get 2 pages side by side in browsers and other docs.

And, what will I do with all of my Firewire devices?

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:18 pm (PDT)



> And, what will I do with all of my Firewire devices?

Plug them into the Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter?

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:21 pm (PDT)



> Overall, this is the first notebook that looks a leap forward rather than just an evolution of my ageing PowerBook!
> Otto

The very FIRST Macbook Pro was a leap forward from the last Powerbook.

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:22 pm (PDT)



>> My main problem with these is no 17". I will have trouble reading 1920x1200 in 15" and I like to get 2 pages side by side in browsers and other docs.
>
> Use a 15" closer than you would a 17" or an iMac?

I want my graphical elements (fonts, icons, images) to look finer-grained, smoother, without jaggies, even when I increase font size as needed.

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:41 pm (PDT)



At 11:20 AM -0700 6/17/12, N.A. Nada wrote:
>With that resolution, you might be surprised what you might be able to read. I can place two docs >side by side and read them.

Perhaps. My eyes are quite old.

BB

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Re: New MacBook Pro Retina

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:20 pm (PDT)



On 17 June 2012 21:21, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

> > Overall, this is the first notebook that looks a leap forward rather
> than just an evolution of my ageing PowerBook!
> > Otto
>
> The very FIRST Macbook Pro was a leap forward from the last Powerbook.
>

I said *looks*, and it is now *almost* as obsolete as the last PowerBook
(it can run only *one* version more of OS X).
;)
Otto

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Re: iMovie won't import movies

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:11 am (PDT)



Following a bit of off-list advice I received, I just used MPEG Streamclip to convert the video to .mp4 format … still no luck.

Dane

On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Dane Robison wrote:

> Just tried it…same problem.
>
> On Jun 16, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Rex Neff wrote:
>
>> you might try trashing the iMovie .plist file.
>>
>> Not sure that will work, but worth a try.
>>
>> rn
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Dane Robison wrote:
>>
>>> I've done this plenty of times, the same way and on the same machine…but now it won't work!
>>>
>>> After using Quicktime Player to record a video via the built-in camera on my MacBook Pro, I try to import it to iMovie '09: File > Import > Movies… I then select the movie and get the following message:
>>>
>>> "Copy Failed. This file could not be copied: <path to movie> (-43)"
>>>
>>> 15" MacBook Pro, 2.2 GHz Core i7, 16GB RAM, plenty of HD space, OS X 10.7.4
>>>
>>> Ideas? Why is iMovie on my Mac suddenly refusing to import a movie made on my Mac?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dane

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Re: iMovie won't import movies

Posted by: "Rex Neff" rn@essex1.com   ian000

Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:02 pm (PDT)



Have you tried running a utility like Cocktail to "clean up"?
You might also try posting in the Apple Discussion forums - if you haven't done it already.

rn

On Jun 17, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Dane Robison wrote:

Following a bit of off-list advice I received, I just used MPEG Streamclip to convert the video to .mp4 format … still no luck.

Dane

On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Dane Robison wrote:

> Just tried it…same problem.
>
> On Jun 16, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Rex Neff wrote:
>
>> you might try trashing the iMovie .plist file.
>>
>> Not sure that will work, but worth a try.
>>
>> rn
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Dane Robison wrote:
>>
>>> I've done this plenty of times, the same way and on the same machine…but now it won't work!
>>>
>>> After using Quicktime Player to record a video via the built-in camera on my MacBook Pro, I try to import it to iMovie '09: File > Import > Movies… I then select the movie and get the following message:
>>>
>>> "Copy Failed. This file could not be copied: <path to movie> (-43)"
>>>
>>> 15" MacBook Pro, 2.2 GHz Core i7, 16GB RAM, plenty of HD space, OS X 10.7.4
>>>
>>> Ideas? Why is iMovie on my Mac suddenly refusing to import a movie made on my Mac?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dane

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Re: Mac 10.8 Mountain Lion- date & price

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:04 pm (PDT)



my grandson wants one.
musta done something.
doug
On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:43 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> Yes, and if you buy a new Mac with 10.7 now, you will get a free upgrade to
> 10.8.
>
> I must say the new MacBook Pros with flash memory and Retina display are
> very tempting. :)
>
> Otto
>
> On 17 June 2012 01:47, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Just read that Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion should ship in July 2012 and
>> cost $19.95.
>>
>> It should also return the Save As feature but perhaps as an optional
>> setting.
>>
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Re: Mac 10.8 Mountain Lion- date & price

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:48 pm (PDT)



I do not like not being able to change the screen res. I'll never be able to see the icons. Too tiny for my old eyes. And I watch movies on my computers so even tho the screen should be sharper, no optical drive so thats inconvenient.
Terry

Sent from my iPadHD

On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:

> my grandson wants one.
> musta done something.
> doug
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:43 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
>> Yes, and if you buy a new Mac with 10.7 now, you will get a free upgrade to
>> 10.8.
>>
>> I must say the new MacBook Pros with flash memory and Retina display are
>> very tempting. :)
>>
>> Otto
>>
>> On 17 June 2012 01:47, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> Just read that Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion should ship in July 2012 and
>>> cost $19.95.
>>>
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>>> setting.
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Re: Mac 10.8 Mountain Lion- date & price

Posted by: "Chris Jones" jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk   bobstermcbob

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:03 pm (PDT)



Hi,

On 17 Jun 2012, at 8:48pm, Terry Pogue wrote:

> I do not like not being able to change the screen res. I'll never be able to see the icons. Too tiny for my old eyes.

The icons will not, by default, be any smaller than they are now on 15in MacBook Pros. They will have the same size, just much more detail.

> And I watch movies on my computers so even tho the screen should be sharper, no optical drive so thats inconvenient.

Then get an external drive and rip them to file (MP4 with Handbrake, for instance).

I for one thoroughly applaud Apple for getting rid of the increasingly obsolete optical drive in this update. The average user has very little use for one these days, and certainly not 'on the road' so when they do an external drive at home is perfectly fine. An optical drive uses a massive amount of real-estate up inside the case, which is just not justified these days.

Good riddance. Off they go to join floppies…

Chris

> Terry
>
> Sent from my iPadHD
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> my grandson wants one.
>> musta done something.
>> doug
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:43 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, and if you buy a new Mac with 10.7 now, you will get a free upgrade to
>>> 10.8.
>>>
>>> I must say the new MacBook Pros with flash memory and Retina display are
>>> very tempting. :)
>>>
>>> Otto
>>>
>>> On 17 June 2012 01:47, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howdy.
>>>>
>>>> Just read that Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion should ship in July 2012 and
>>>> cost $19.95.
>>>>
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>>>> setting.
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Re: Mac 10.8 Mountain Lion- date & price

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:08 pm (PDT)



Good. I have my 17” laptop set fir 1024 x 768 stretched. That makes the icons large enough to see. I don't recall offhand what I have my desktop computer set to. It's the largest screen apple makes or made. I think it's either 24 or 27"
Terry

Sent from my iPadHD

On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 17 Jun 2012, at 8:48pm, Terry Pogue wrote:
>
>> I do not like not being able to change the screen res. I'll never be able to see the icons. Too tiny for my old eyes.
>
> The icons will not, by default, be any smaller than they are now on 15in MacBook Pros. They will have the same size, just much more detail.
>
>> And I watch movies on my computers so even tho the screen should be sharper, no optical drive so thats inconvenient.
>
> Then get an external drive and rip them to file (MP4 with Handbrake, for instance).
>
> I for one thoroughly applaud Apple for getting rid of the increasingly obsolete optical drive in this update. The average user has very little use for one these days, and certainly not 'on the road' so when they do an external drive at home is perfectly fine. An optical drive uses a massive amount of real-estate up inside the case, which is just not justified these days.
>
> Good riddance. Off they go to join floppies�
>
> Chris
>
>> Terry
>>
>> Sent from my iPadHD
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> my grandson wants one.
>>> musta done something.
>>> doug
>>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:43 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, and if you buy a new Mac with 10.7 now, you will get a free upgrade to
>>>> 10.8.
>>>>
>>>> I must say the new MacBook Pros with flash memory and Retina display are
>>>> very tempting. :)
>>>>
>>>> Otto
>>>>
>>>> On 17 June 2012 01:47, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just read that Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion should ship in July 2012 and
>>>>> cost $19.95.
>>>>>
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Re: Mac 10.8 Mountain Lion- date & price

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:13 pm (PDT)



Ops, wrong. It's set to 1024 x 640

Sent from my iPadHD

On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Terry Pogue <tpogue@comcast.net> wrote:

> Good. I have my 17” laptop set fir 1024 x 768 stretched. That makes the icons large enough to see. I don't recall offhand what I have my desktop computer set to. It's the largest screen apple makes or made. I think it's either 24 or 27"
> Terry
>
> Sent from my iPadHD
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 17 Jun 2012, at 8:48pm, Terry Pogue wrote:
>>
>>> I do not like not being able to change the screen res. I'll never be able to see the icons. Too tiny for my old eyes.
>>
>> The icons will not, by default, be any smaller than they are now on 15in MacBook Pros. They will have the same size, just much more detail.
>>
>>> And I watch movies on my computers so even tho the screen should be sharper, no optical drive so thats inconvenient.
>>
>> Then get an external drive and rip them to file (MP4 with Handbrake, for instance).
>>
>> I for one thoroughly applaud Apple for getting rid of the increasingly obsolete optical drive in this update. The average user has very little use for one these days, and certainly not 'on the road' so when they do an external drive at home is perfectly fine. An optical drive uses a massive amount of real-estate up inside the case, which is just not justified these days.
>>
>> Good riddance. Off they go to join floppies�
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPadHD
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> my grandson wants one.
>>>> musta done something.
>>>> doug
>>>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:43 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and if you buy a new Mac with 10.7 now, you will get a free upgrade to
>>>>> 10.8.
>>>>>
>>>>> I must say the new MacBook Pros with flash memory and Retina display are
>>>>> very tempting. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Otto
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 June 2012 01:47, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just read that Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion should ship in July 2012 and
>>>>>> cost $19.95.
>>>>>>
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Re: Mac 10.8 Mountain Lion- date & price

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:24 pm (PDT)



yeah, i miss my imac. i can see my macbook better , type better, and watch netflix streaming movies on my macbook when i am lying down and have it on my chest.
i'm debating how long i should wait until i get an iPad.
but, my iMac is still my main computer.
i always take off my bifocals when i am on any computer.
doug
On Jun 17, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Terry Pogue wrote:

> I do not like not being able to change the screen res. I'll never be able to see the icons. Too tiny for my old eyes. And I watch movies on my computers so even tho the screen should be sharper, no optical drive so thats inconvenient.
> Terry
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> Sent from my iPadHD
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> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> my grandson wants one.
>> musta done something.
>> doug
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:43 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
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>>> Yes, and if you buy a new Mac with 10.7 now, you will get a free upgrade to
>>> 10.8.
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>>> I must say the new MacBook Pros with flash memory and Retina display are
>>> very tempting. :)
>>>
>>> Otto
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>>> On 17 June 2012 01:47, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
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>>>> Howdy.
>>>>
>>>> Just read that Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion should ship in July 2012 and
>>>> cost $19.95.
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>>>> It should also return the Save As feature but perhaps as an optional
>>>> setting.
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Re: Mac 10.8 Mountain Lion- date & price

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:25 pm (PDT)



> I do not like not being able to change the screen res. I'll never be able to see the icons. Too tiny for my old eyes. And I watch movies on my computers so even tho the screen should be sharper, no optical drive so thats inconvenient.
> Terry

1. Screen res on Retina MBPros is changeable.

2. No one said it couldn't *use* an optical drive, it just does not have one built-in.

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Re: Mac 10.8 Mountain Lion- date & price

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:36 pm (PDT)



> I have my 17" laptop set fir 1024 x 768 stretched. That makes the icons large enough to see.

My 15" laptop is set to 1440x900, and my desktop icons are 44x44 pixels. But in desktop view options, I could increase that to 128x128 pixels should I choose. That ought to be more than large enough even on the native 1920x1200 screen on a 17" machine.

> I don't recall offhand what I have my desktop computer set to. It's the largest screen apple makes or made. I think it's either 24 or 27"
> Terry

Currently, 27" is the largest. They used to have a 30".

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Retina Display MB Pro & grandson

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:25 pm (PDT)



i meant to say, i must have done something right that my grandson wants MB Pro.
not that i could afford one.
my iMac is not back from the shop yet, and i am struggling to see and type (doing finger pecking) on my ancient mac book
on my iMac's desk.
whew. just burned a bunch of calories.

doug
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Re: My bad - wet iPhone

Posted by: "i_am_willie" wilhitel@cox.net   i_am_willie

Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:31 pm (PDT)





Thanks for the suggestions. I went into the Genius Bar. The water sensor was red. The tech said that even when dry it probably would not work again as it was shorted out. I could not wait for it to dry out and then not work so I went ahead with a replacement. It cost me $149 for a replacement but walked out with a working iPhone again. I didn't think about claiming on my household insurance but I think if I must pay the deductible, it will be more than the replacement cost. Chalk it up to a lesson learned.

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Re: My bad - wet iPhone

Posted by: "Peter J. Ernst" pete_ernst@comcast.net

Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:59 pm (PDT)



What I don't get about the Genius Bar sometimes is how they decide to give free replacements and when not to. My wife dropped her iPhone in a deep puddle. Total water damage. I took it to the Bar and the fellow replaced it saying "everyone gets one". Weird thing about it, this wasn't her first time. She had another before that one that had water damage and they made us pay for it.

Pete

On Jun 17, 2012, at 1:31 PM, i_am_willie wrote:

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> Thanks for the suggestions. I went into the Genius Bar. The water sensor was red. The tech said that even when dry it probably would not work again as it was shorted out. I could not wait for it to dry out and then not work so I went ahead with a replacement. It cost me $149 for a replacement but walked out with a working iPhone again. I didn't think about claiming on my household insurance but I think if I must pay the deductible, it will be more than the replacement cost. Chalk it up to a lesson learned.
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Re: Is there any way to add words to Apple's Dictionary?

Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:30 pm (PDT)




On 16.06.2012, at 17:18, Bill B. wrote:

> Is there any way to add words or word sources (like en.wiktionary.org to Apple's Dictionary App?
>
> I cannot find an obvious way (running 10.6.8). I'm wondering if there are 3rd party solutions or ways to hack plists?

On 16.06.2012, at 18:00, HAL9000 wrote:

> Doug's Scripts had a free script to add words a couple of years ago.

Highly unlikely, because Dictionary.app is not scriptable! -- Did you mean Doug's Scripts for iTunes?

Bill, I used to use Dictionary Editor 1.3. It is for Tiger and it's free, but it has been discontinued now. The core functionality for English seems to be still working in Lion, though. No Unicode support, so that old English words with thorn and eth are not displayed correctly. The same applies to other (European) languages that require Unicode.

With Dictionary Editor you can import wordlists from text files. I imported for example all my old user dictionaries from MS Word and Nisus.

There used to be also a free Preference Pane called "Dictionary Cleaner". It has been discontinued too, and it's not compatible with Lion (don't know about Snow Leopard).

If you can't find Dictionary Editor on the web I can send you a copy, if you want.

Anna Larson
OS X 10.7.4
MacBook Pro 17''

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