6/24/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8963

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1a.

Re: AutoFill assistance

Posted by: "Jim Showalter" jshowalt@mindspring.com   jshowalt94127

Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:52 am (PDT)



I have noticed that on forms where the state field is blank, autofill fills it in, but if the state field is a drop down list it doesn't.

On Jun 23, 2012, at 8:45 PM, bobbystar wrote:

> Yes, I went to Safari preferences and edited the auto fill but for some reason it does not fill in my state on forms.
>
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> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@...> wrote:
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>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 7:23 PM, bobbystar wrote:
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>>> I downloaded it and on the test page it filled in my street address twice (address 1 and address 3) and put my phone number in every phone slot. I am not sure if that is just for the test or if this is how it will work on a real form.
>>>
>>> I should know within the next week or so...
>>>
>>>
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>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Search Google and download "Safari Autofill Prefs"
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>>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "bobbystar" <bobbystar@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I looked everywhere but Safari. MY contact info is correct and has been but the auto fill does not fill in the state I live in on all forms that I have used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that big a deal but it is a hassle to find Pennsylvania on a drop down list when the brains of the Web insist that Palau has top billing (How many people live in Palau?).
>>>>
>>
>> Have you actually gone to the Safari preferences and under autofill used the edit button? You can add or eliminate what you want auto fill to use.
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no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:08 am (PDT)



Have a Mac Mini that I bought maybe 3 mos ago and it's been great. Today my arrow keys are malfunctioning. The up key works but not the down or side-to-side. AND my sound is gone. When I bought the Mini, I bought some little speakers that have been fantastic but today they don't work and neither does the tiny speaker built into the Mini. What gives? What can I do to fix it?

Louise
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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:54 am (PDT)



At 1:08 PM -0400 6/24/12, Louise Stewart wrote:

>Have a Mac Mini that I bought maybe 3 mos ago and it's been great.
>Today my arrow keys are malfunctioning. The up key works but not the
>down or side-to-side. AND my sound is gone. When I bought the Mini,
>I bought some little speakers that have been fantastic but today
>they don't work and neither does the tiny speaker built into the
>Mini. What gives? What can I do to fix it?

If you haven't done it yet, restart the computer. If that does not do
the trick then log into another test account. Were it not for the
sound I'd suspect the keyboard, but now I wonder.

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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:28 pm (PDT)



Yes, I restarted but it didn't change anything. Sorry, but what do you mean by "another test account"?

On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Barry Austern wrote:

> At 1:08 PM -0400 6/24/12, Louise Stewart wrote:
>
> >Have a Mac Mini that I bought maybe 3 mos ago and it's been great.
> >Today my arrow keys are malfunctioning. The up key works but not the
> >down or side-to-side. AND my sound is gone. When I bought the Mini,
> >I bought some little speakers that have been fantastic but today
> >they don't work and neither does the tiny speaker built into the
> >Mini. What gives? What can I do to fix it?
>
> If you haven't done it yet, restart the computer. If that does not do
> the trick then log into another test account. Were it not for the
> sound I'd suspect the keyboard, but now I wonder.
>
> --
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> barryaus@fuse.net
>
>

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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:33 pm (PDT)



> Yes, I restarted but it didn't change anything. Sorry, but what do you mean by "another test account"?

In System Preferences -- Users and Groups, click the lock to confirm that you're the administrator, and enter your password, then just above the lock, click "+" and create a new user. Barry and I both chose "Test" as the user name.

If you do nothing more after completing the user creation, this test account will start up with all default settings, and no added software running, and will represent a good route to test whether some defect in performance is inherent in the machine's hardware, or is associated in some way with software that runs during your normal login.

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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:54 pm (PDT)



At 3:28 PM -0400 6/24/12, Louise Stewart wrote:

>Yes, I restarted but it didn't change anything. Sorry, but what do
>you mean by "another test account"?
>
>
>
>On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Barry Austern wrote:
>
> > At 1:08 PM -0400 6/24/12, Louise Stewart wrote:
> >

Create another account. Give it admin privileges. Lot out of your
main account and into it. In other words, all your preferences are in
the other account now, so a fouled up preference will no longer cause
harm. If things work well now you know that you have something local
to your main account.

If this still does not work then boot a different drive, a clone if
you have one, or your install DVD if you do not. Do things work okay
now?
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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:55 pm (PDT)



Howdy.

Restart the Mini and see what happens.

Unplug any speakers or headphones and see what happens.

Open System Preferences > Sound and see what is selected under Select a
device for sound output and check the Output volume. Note that if you
check the "Show volume in Menu bar" check box you will turn on a volume
menu on the Menu bar.

Denver Dan

On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:08:45 -0400, Louise Stewart wrote:
> Have a Mac Mini that I bought maybe 3 mos ago and it's been great.
> Today my arrow keys are malfunctioning. The up key works but not the
> down or side-to-side. AND my sound is gone. When I bought the Mini, I
> bought some little speakers that have been fantastic but today they
> don't work and neither does the tiny speaker built into the Mini.
> What gives? What can I do to fix it?
>
> Louise

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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:16 pm (PDT)



Thanks, Denver Dan. I'd already restored and also totally turned it off and nothing happened. BUT, I just did the System Preferences thing and mute was clicked for the sounds!!! I have no idea how that happened since I didn't change it and no one else is here who can do that. I had sound just fine last night but not today. So, my sound is now just fine :-)) but my arrow keys still only work for the "up" one. Any more ideas on that?

Louise

On Jun 24, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Restart the Mini and see what happens.
>
> Unplug any speakers or headphones and see what happens.
>
> Open System Preferences > Sound and see what is selected under Select a
> device for sound output and check the Output volume. Note that if you
> check the "Show volume in Menu bar" check box you will turn on a volume
> menu on the Menu bar.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:08:45 -0400, Louise Stewart wrote:
> > Have a Mac Mini that I bought maybe 3 mos ago and it's been great.
> > Today my arrow keys are malfunctioning. The up key works but not the
> > down or side-to-side. AND my sound is gone. When I bought the Mini, I
> > bought some little speakers that have been fantastic but today they
> > don't work and neither does the tiny speaker built into the Mini.
> > What gives? What can I do to fix it?
> >
> > Louise
>

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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:28 pm (PDT)



>> Have a Mac Mini that I bought maybe 3 mos ago and it's been great. Today my arrow keys are malfunctioning. The up key works but not the down or side-to-side. AND my sound is gone. When I bought the Mini, I bought some little speakers that have been fantastic but today they don't work and neither does the tiny speaker built into the Mini. What gives? What can I do to fix it?\\

It is always helpful to the people who want to answer to say what you have already tried to fix your problem, if anything.

> If you haven't done it yet, restart the computer. If that does not do the trick then log into another test account.

I would do this as well, except that for this situation, I would probably do a Safe Boot (restart the computer with the <Shift> key held down until the "spinning gear" appears), then when the login screen appears, do a normal reboot.

Perhaps follow this up with Application/Utilities/DiskUtility -- Repair Permissions.

My next step, if this fails, would be to reset the PRAM (shot in the dark; I don't see why this would affect *your* problem, but at least it's a safe repair thing the user can do).

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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:34 pm (PDT)



At 4:16 PM -0400 6/24/12, Louise Stewart wrote:

>Thanks, Denver Dan. I'd already restored and also totally turned it
>off and nothing happened. BUT, I just did the System Preferences
>thing and mute was clicked for the sounds!!! I have no idea how that
>happened since I didn't change it and no one else is here who can do
>that. I had sound just fine last night but not today. So, my sound
>is now just fine :-)) but my arrow keys still only work for the "up"
>one. Any more ideas on that?

Can you beg, borrow or steal another keyboard to test it out? Now
that we know that the sound and arrows are not related I'm again
suspecting your keyboard.
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Re: no sound, no side-to-side arrow key action

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:41 pm (PDT)



Howdy.

You may have accidentally pressed some keyboard keys that are intended
to control sound and other things. It's a fairly common thing.

Try opening System Preferences > Keyboard, then click Keyboard
Shortcuts and click the Restore Defaults button.

Restore Defaults returns keyboard settings/mapping to factory default,
so to speak. Might fix the arrow key problem.

Denver Dan

On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:16:34 -0400, Louise Stewart wrote:
> Thanks, Denver Dan. I'd already restored and also totally turned it
> off and nothing happened. BUT, I just did the System Preferences
> thing and mute was clicked for the sounds!!! I have no idea how that
> happened since I didn't change it and no one else is here who can do
> that. I had sound just fine last night but not today. So, my sound is
> now just fine :-)) but my arrow keys still only work for the "up"
> one. Any more ideas on that?
>
> Louise

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3a.

How to resize fields in Safari?

Posted by: "pix@maksimo.de" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:02 pm (PDT)



We used to be able to resize commentary fields in Safari. Why was this useful feature removed?

http://minus.com/muknxRIHS/

Anna Larson
OS X 10.7.4
MacBook Pro 17''

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Re: How to resize fields in Safari?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:39 pm (PDT)



> We used to be able to resize commentary fields in Safari. Why was this useful feature removed?
>
> http://minus.com/muknxRIHS/
>
> Anna Larson
> OS X 10.7.4

I thought I still could -- and had -- in 10.7.4, but certainly not on that page....

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Re: How to resize fields in Safari?

Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:14 pm (PDT)




On 24.06.2012, at 22:39, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> We used to be able to resize commentary fields in Safari. Why was this useful feature removed?
>>
>> http://minus.com/muknxRIHS/
>>
>> Anna Larson
>> OS X 10.7.4
>
> I thought I still could

And can you …?

Anna

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Re: How to resize fields in Safari?

Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:22 pm (PDT)




On 24.06.2012, at 23:14, Anna Larson wrote:

>
> On 24.06.2012, at 22:39, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>> We used to be able to resize commentary fields in Safari. Why was this useful feature removed?
>>>
>>> http://minus.com/muknxRIHS/
>>>
>>> Anna Larson
>>> OS X 10.7.4
>>
>> I thought I still could
>
>
> And can you …?
>

Maybe the problem is that not all online forms may include *resizable* multi-line text fields; in that case then only *unresizable* text fields.

Anna

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Re: How to resize fields in Safari?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:39 pm (PDT)



>>> We used to be able to resize commentary fields in Safari. Why was this useful feature removed?
>>>
>>> http://minus.com/muknxRIHS/
>>>
>>> Anna Larson
>>> OS X 10.7.4
>>
>> I thought I still could -- and had -- in 10.7.4, but certainly not on that page....
>
> And can you …?

Yes.
This website is part of the Mount Washington Weather Station site:
<https://secure3.convio.net/mwobs/site/Donation2?idb=0&df_id=1360&1360.donation=form1>

I don't *think* it requires a login.

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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:40 pm (PDT)



Anna wrote:

>> by me the double strike-through [in Mail] does not work. Selecting "Double" renders only "single" strike-through. I don't know why.
>

On 23.06.2012, at 21:26, Terry Pogue wrote:

> I don't get a double line either. Double works in Bean but not in Mail.
>
>

On 23.06.2012, at 20:20, Jim Saklad wrote:

> Not all fonts have all characters. Some have only "normal", and not even bold or italic.
>
>

Jim, are you saying that double strike-through works by you in Mail and TextEdit? If yes, by which fonts then?

Anna

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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:01 pm (PDT)



Thanks sooooo much!!! It works.

On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Ian Gillis wrote:

> On 23 June 2012 16:31, Louise Stewart <veggie236@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Are these available and I just can't find them?
>
> Hi Louise,
>
> Highlight the text to be struck-through, then go to "Fonts" and the
> fonts window will open. There is a little icon with a "T" with a
> strike-through; click that and you get the option of single, double or
> color strike-through.
>
> HTH,
> Ian
>
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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:28 pm (PDT)



>> Anna wrote:
>>> by me the double strike-through [in Mail] does not work.
>>
> Terry wrote:
>> I don't get a double line either. Double works in Bean but not in Mail.
>
> I wrote:
>> Not all fonts have all characters. Some have only "normal", and not even bold or italic.
>
> Jim, are you saying that double strike-through works by you in Mail and TextEdit? If yes, by which fonts then?
> Anna

Years ago I learned that some fonts had bold, italic, etc. built into them, and others did not. And that there were some programs (e.g., desktop publishing) that could bolden, or italicize, fonts that lacked those characters in their character-set.

I thought perhaps that double-strike was a feature of the font.
I now see that I was wrong.

In TextEdit, I can double-strike ANY font on the computer -- boldened, italicized, or plain -- and in Mail, NONE.

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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:23 pm (PDT)



Did you maybe forget to go to rich text and not plain text in Mail?

On Jun 24, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> Anna wrote:
>>> by me the double strike-through [in Mail] does not work.
>>
> Terry wrote:
>> I don't get a double line either. Double works in Bean but not in Mail.
>
> I wrote:
>> Not all fonts have all characters. Some have only "normal", and not even bold or italic.
>
> Jim, are you saying that double strike-through works by you in Mail and TextEdit? If yes, by which fonts then?
> Anna

Years ago I learned that some fonts had bold, italic, etc. built into them, and others did not. And that there were some programs (e.g., desktop publishing) that could bolden, or italicize, fonts that lacked those characters in their character-set.

I thought perhaps that double-strike was a feature of the font.
I now see that I was wrong.

In TextEdit, I can double-strike ANY font on the computer -- boldened, italicized, or plain -- and in Mail, NONE.

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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:31 pm (PDT)



> Did you maybe forget to go to rich text and not plain text in Mail?

Plain
Single strike-through
Double strike-through

In composing this reply, when I did the above, then converted the message to plain-text, the strike-throughs both vanished.

As I compose now, and send, I am in rich-text mode.

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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:34 pm (PDT)



>> Did you maybe forget to go to rich text and not plain text in Mail?
>
> Plain
> Single strike-through
> Double strike-through
>
> In composing this reply, when I did the above, then converted the message to plain-text, the strike-throughs both vanished.
>
> As I compose now, and send, I am in rich-text mode.

And now I see that, even though I was IN rich-text mode, with visible strike-throughs in my composition window, THAT aspect of rich-text gets removed in the forum-mail process.

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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "Joann Rossi" abner2009@comcast.net   applecart2004

Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:35 pm (PDT)



Jim,

I would like to ask some questions about mail.
I don't know how to underline or bold in mail.
I also do not know why I get so many addresses in the e mail listings when I open to send to someone, is there a way to get rid of these unwanted addresses. I know how to delete them from my docked address book, but not in the one that I just spoke about.
Can you direct me to where I can find answers for this, I have tried searching.

Thank you so much, Joann
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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:55 pm (PDT)



> I would like to ask some questions about mail.
> I don't know how to underline or bold in mail.

If you are sending to a recipient, like many forums, that accept only plain text, there are "codes" for telling the readers that a word is NOT "plain":
bold is *this is bold*
italics is /this is italicized/
underline is _this is underlined_

If the destination DOES accept and display rich text, then type away, composing your message, and when needed, highlight a word or phrase, then press <Command><b> for bold, <Command><i> for italics, or <Command><u> for underlined.

If Mail is already in rich-text mode, you will see the bold, italics, or underlining appear immediately.
If Mail is in plain-text mode, it will bring up a requester that asks "Convert this message to rich text format? Changing the style or formatting requires that this message be converted to rich text format."

Note: *this* forum is plain-text, with no attachments.

> I also do not know why I get so many addresses in the e mail listings when I open to send to someone, is there a way to get rid of these unwanted addresses.

Are you starting a new message from scratch (<Command><n>) or replying to an existing message?
Replies will inherit their addresses from the message to which you are replying.

> I know how to delete them from my docked address book, but not in the one that I just spoke about.

You can click on an address in the "To:" line of Mail and delete the addresses individually.

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Re: special features of Mail?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:40 pm (PDT)



Yeah, When I posted in rich text, the words rich text were struck through until I sent it.

On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> Did you maybe forget to go to rich text and not plain text in Mail?

Plain
Single strike-through
Double strike-through

In composing this reply, when I did the above, then converted the message to plain-text, the strike-throughs both vanished.

As I compose now, and send, I am in rich-text mode.

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