3/03/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9409

15 New Messages

Digest #9409
1.1
Re: external hard drive by "James Robertson" jamesrob328i
1.2
Re: external hard drive by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
1.3
1.4
1.5
Re: external hard drive by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
2a
Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
2b
Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
2c
Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Bob Cook" cookrd1
2d
Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
2e
Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
2f
Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "T Hopkins" todhop
2g
Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Bob Cook" cookrd1
2h
2i
Re: Mac vs PC software prices by "Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

Messages

Sat Mar 2, 2013 3:47 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

> Do you have a router that accepts USB connections? Could you connect the printer to the router and share it that way instead of through Bonjour?

Good thought! Of course, if you'd ever seen the snake pit where my power bricks, networking hardware, and cables embrace each other behind my desk, you'd never have issued that challenge :-)

Jim

Sat Mar 2, 2013 4:52 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:47 PM, James Robertson wrote:

>
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you have a router that accepts USB connections? Could you connect the printer to the router and share it that way instead of through Bonjour?
>
> Good thought! Of course, if you'd ever seen the snake pit where my power bricks, networking hardware, and cables embrace each other behind my desk, you'd never have issued that challenge :-)

Yikes! Well, it's over to you now, to see if you can make it work.

Daly

Sat Mar 2, 2013 8:37 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Jim,

If it mounts after you connect the Garmin, then you are mounting a drive from the Garmin, not a disk image. That is why it unmounts when the Mac goes to sleep.

As far as the printer, those are the trade offs of the different types of sharing. Have you tried connecting the printer to your WiFi base station?

Brent

On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:12 PM, James Robertson wrote:

On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:41 AM, N.A. Nada whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> I use encrypted disk images to protect some data, and my MBP is set to go to sleep in 15 minutes of inactivity. I have never seen it close or dismount a disk image. Only on shut down. Look at your settings for sleep and if that fails, I would look at the way the disk image was created and set up. Why do you need a disk image for your bike computer?

When I plug the Garmin 800 GPS device into a USB port on any of my Macs, it auto-mounts a disk image (that's the way it works, either in Mac OS or Windows). Now that I've set my Mac Pro to sleep after a discrete time period, the Garmin disk image disappears (accompanied by the nagging when I wake up the Mac Pro later on).

As far as printers are concerned, I did set them up that way (as true network printers) originally, but when my grandchildren came to visit they couldn't print; I never figured out why, but when I changed printers to being shared by Bonjour, their problems went away. Bonjour also did a better job of making the same printers available to Windows machines (my own VMs and visiting people imprisoned by Dell).

Jim

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Sat Mar 2, 2013 8:44 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

You said you had a problem, two of us gave you similar answers of how to resolve it. It is up to you to chose if you want to implement it.

It is not up to us to invent a new way for you.

On Mar 2, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:47 PM, James Robertson wrote:

>
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you have a router that accepts USB connections? Could you connect the printer to the router and share it that way instead of through Bonjour?
>
> Good thought! Of course, if you'd ever seen the snake pit where my power bricks, networking hardware, and cables embrace each other behind my desk, you'd never have issued that challenge :-)

Yikes! Well, it's over to you now, to see if you can make it work.

Daly

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Sat Mar 2, 2013 10:58 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:47 PM, James Robertson wrote:

> Good thought! Of course, if you'd ever seen the snake pit where my power bricks, networking hardware, and cables embrace each other behind my desk, you'd never have issued that challenge :-)

That reminds me of a brilliant tip for keeping cables organized that I've been wanting to share! If, like me, you have a large collection of bread bag closures, this tip can be implemented essentially for free. See:

http://is.gd/eeQxmK

http://is.gd/uWgh4Z

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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Sat Mar 2, 2013 3:59 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:54 AM, neelie wrote:

> I'm a Mac user from the mid 1990's and LOVE all Apple products....BUT....I'm so tired of the premium prices we sometimes have to pay for software!
>
> Today I got an email from Ancestry.com for a special price on family tree software. It sounded good - regular price $59.99 on sale for $39.99. But at the bottom of the notice was the dreaded "not for Macs" message, with a link for the Mac version. That turns out to be $69.99, with NO sale price.

Why don't you teach them a lesson in economics by switching to a competing program? There are tons of choices for genealogy software, some of which are even free:

GEDCOM Editor
http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=GEDCOM-Editor

GEDitCOM
http://www.geditcom.com/

SeeGEDCOMX
http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/family-history/see-gedcom/

Genealogy Pro
http://www.genealogypro.net/Home/

GenearationX
http://sourceforge.net/projects/generationx

Heredis
http://www.heredis.com/myheredis/webroot/discover_macx.htm

ohmiGene
http://ohmi.celeonet.fr/ohmiGene/indexEN.html

Osk
http://www.studlar.net/en/software/

MacFamilyTree
http://www.onlymac.de/html/stammbaum4en.html

TreeTracker
http://www.devoesquared.com/

Reunion
http://www.leisterpro.com/

iFamily
http://www.ifamilyforleopard.com/

My Blood
http://www.myblood-line.com/

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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Sat Mar 2, 2013 4:43 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 2 March 2013 23:59, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com> wrote:

>
> Why don't you teach them a lesson in economics by switching to a competing
> program? There are tons of choices for genealogy software, some of which
> are even free:
>
>
> GEDCOM Editor
> http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=GEDCOM-Editor
>
> GEDitCOM
> http://www.geditcom.com/
>
> SeeGEDCOMX
> http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/family-history/see-gedcom/
>
> Genealogy Pro
> http://www.genealogypro.net/Home/
>
> GenearationX
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/generationx
>
> Heredis
> http://www.heredis.com/myheredis/webroot/discover_macx.htm
>
> ohmiGene
> http://ohmi.celeonet.fr/ohmiGene/indexEN.html
>
> Osk
> http://www.studlar.net/en/software/
>
> MacFamilyTree
> http://www.onlymac.de/html/stammbaum4en.html
>
> TreeTracker
> http://www.devoesquared.com/
>
> Reunion
> http://www.leisterpro.com/
>
> iFamily
> http://www.ifamilyforleopard.com/
>
> My Blood
> http://www.myblood-line.com/

Randy,

Stop already! How can anyone choose from so many choices?
;)
Otto

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Sat Mar 2, 2013 4:52 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Bob Cook" cookrd1

I really wish Randy would tell us his secret to being so organized to have
all this information at his fingertips.
Bob
On Mar 2, 2013 7:43 PM, "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> **
>
>
> On 2 March 2013 23:59, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Why don't you teach them a lesson in economics by switching to a
> competing
> > program? There are tons of choices for genealogy software, some of which
> > are even free:
> >
> >
> > GEDCOM Editor
> > http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=GEDCOM-Editor
> >
> > GEDitCOM
> > http://www.geditcom.com/
> >
> > SeeGEDCOMX
> > http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/family-history/see-gedcom/
> >
> > Genealogy Pro
> > http://www.genealogypro.net/Home/
> >
> > GenearationX
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/generationx
> >
> > Heredis
> > http://www.heredis.com/myheredis/webroot/discover_macx.htm
> >
> > ohmiGene
> > http://ohmi.celeonet.fr/ohmiGene/indexEN.html
> >
> > Osk
> > http://www.studlar.net/en/software/
> >
> > MacFamilyTree
> > http://www.onlymac.de/html/stammbaum4en.html
> >
> > TreeTracker
> > http://www.devoesquared.com/
> >
> > Reunion
> > http://www.leisterpro.com/
> >
> > iFamily
> > http://www.ifamilyforleopard.com/
> >
> > My Blood
> > http://www.myblood-line.com/
>
> Randy,
>
> Stop already! How can anyone choose from so many choices?
> ;)
> Otto
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Sat Mar 2, 2013 10:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Mar 2, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

> I really wish Randy would tell us his secret to being so organized to have
> all this information at his fingertips.

It's not a secret and I think that it's come up on this list before.

I've been on a bunch of Mac discussion lists, for about 27 years now. I keep a database of answers to questions (most of them my own answers to other's questions.) This is handy because many of the same questions keep coming up. I use ScrapItPro for this, but it has been discontinued, and I'm still auditioning replacements. I'm leaning towards:

GrowlyNotes (free)
http://growlybird.com/GrowlyBird/Notes.html
which is sort of a clone of OneNote for Windows.

I especially hate it when folks (usually Windows bigots) go around saying that there is "no software for the Macintosh." I love to show them how wrong they are. Over the years I've keep lists of some of the most common types of software for the Macintosh, adding to them as I come across software that I didn't know about previously.

In any case, I highly recommend using a program like GrowlyNotes for to-do lists, organizing things that you have to write, storing research, keeping a catalog of tips, etc.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:29 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 3 March 2013 06:50, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com> wrote:

>
> It's not a secret and I think that it's come up on this list before.
>
> I've been on a bunch of Mac discussion lists, for about 27 years now. I
> keep a database of answers to questions (most of them my own answers to
> other's questions.) This is handy because many of the same questions keep
> coming up. I use ScrapItPro for this, but it has been discontinued, and
> I'm still auditioning replacements. I'm leaning towards:
>
> GrowlyNotes (free)
> http://growlybird.com/GrowlyBird/Notes.html
> which is sort of a clone of OneNote for Windows.
>
> I especially hate it when folks (usually Windows bigots) go around saying
> that there is "no software for the Macintosh." I love to show them how
> wrong they are. Over the years I've keep lists of some of the most common
> types of software for the Macintosh, adding to them as I come across
> software that I didn't know about previously.
>
> In any case, I highly recommend using a program like GrowlyNotes for to-do
> lists, organizing things that you have to write, storing research, keeping
> a catalog of tips, etc.
>

Well, I'm still impressed. It's one thing to add new entries as you
discover or are told about them, but it's another to check existing ones to
see if they are still valid and deserving of a place.

Otto

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Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:29 am (PST) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

Cool looking program, but I ask you this. There appears to be a way to get your ScrapItPro notes in using PDF printing, but how will you get them out when GrowlyNotes reaches EOL?

For the three decades I've looked for the perfect note taking program and this has always been my concern. The vast majority of modern programs take data in nicely, but give it up poorly. In the early years, I used simple database apps that could export, at a minimum, comma delimited. Data exchange is getting better with widespread format standards like SQL, XML, and RTF, but many programs still must use complex custom formats to store there data.

As a result, I've only ever used programs that have some common format export. It's the very first thing I check. My current pick is "nvALT," mostly because it saves all data as independent RTF files in a folder. Elegantly simple. You can even "Reveal in Finder."

Cheers,
tod

On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:50 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

>
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
> > I really wish Randy would tell us his secret to being so organized to have
> > all this information at his fingertips.
>
> It's not a secret and I think that it's come up on this list before.
>
> I've been on a bunch of Mac discussion lists, for about 27 years now. I keep a database of answers to questions (most of them my own answers to other's questions.) This is handy because many of the same questions keep coming up. I use ScrapItPro for this, but it has been discontinued, and I'm still auditioning replacements. I'm leaning towards:
>
> GrowlyNotes (free)
> http://growlybird.com/GrowlyBird/Notes.html
> which is sort of a clone of OneNote for Windows.
>
> I especially hate it when folks (usually Windows bigots) go around saying that there is "no software for the Macintosh." I love to show them how wrong they are. Over the years I've keep lists of some of the most common types of software for the Macintosh, adding to them as I come across software that I didn't know about previously.
>
> In any case, I highly recommend using a program like GrowlyNotes for to-do lists, organizing things that you have to write, storing research, keeping a catalog of tips, etc.
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:42 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Bob Cook" cookrd1

Thanks a lot Randy, for EVERYTHING you do! You have made my transitioning
to a Mac much easier and more fun.

Like most users, at first I wanted to do everything on a Mac, but then
realized that wasn't possible. In some cases, there wasn't any Mac software
available and in others, the Windows version just looked or worked better.
I am OK with that. I run Win8 on my Mac but only for those few things I
need, and never for surfing. It is so nice not having to contend with
regular Windows issues.

On Sunday, March 3, 2013, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
> > I really wish Randy would tell us his secret to being so organized to
> have
> > all this information at his fingertips.
>
>
>

--
-Bob

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Sun Mar 3, 2013 6:01 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Bekah" bekalex

I highly (!) recommend Reunion. I've been using it for years - like maybe 10? It keeps up with all the Mac changes, including versions for the iPad and the iPhone very nicely - it's not even available for Windows. It's a bit more $$, but worth it.

Bekah

On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com> wrote:

>
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:54 AM, neelie wrote:
>
>> I'm a Mac user from the mid 1990's and LOVE all Apple products....BUT....I'm so tired of the premium prices we sometimes have to pay for software!
>>
>> Today I got an email from Ancestry.com for a special price on family tree software. It sounded good - regular price $59.99 on sale for $39.99. But at the bottom of the notice was the dreaded "not for Macs" message, with a link for the Mac version. That turns out to be $69.99, with NO sale price.
>
> Why don't you teach them a lesson in economics by switching to a competing program? There are tons of choices for genealogy software, some of which are even free:
>
>
> GEDCOM Editor
> http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=GEDCOM-Editor
>
> GEDitCOM
> http://www.geditcom.com/
>
> SeeGEDCOMX
> http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/family-history/see-gedcom/
>
> Genealogy Pro
> http://www.genealogypro.net/Home/
>
> GenearationX
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/generationx
>
> Heredis
> http://www.heredis.com/myheredis/webroot/discover_macx.htm
>
> ohmiGene
> http://ohmi.celeonet.fr/ohmiGene/indexEN.html
>
> Osk
> http://www.studlar.net/en/software/
>
> MacFamilyTree
> http://www.onlymac.de/html/stammbaum4en.html
>
> TreeTracker
> http://www.devoesquared.com/
>
> Reunion
> http://www.leisterpro.com/
>
> iFamily
> http://www.ifamilyforleopard.com/
>
> My Blood
> http://www.myblood-line.com/
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
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Sun Mar 3, 2013 7:09 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

I'll second Bekah's recommendation. I've been using Reunion for as long as she has, and in addition to what she says, the company considers all customer input and incorporates a good deal of it into new versions. Great customer support!

.........Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Bekah bekah0176@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I highly (!) recommend Reunion. I've been using it for years - like maybe 10? It keeps up with all the Mac changes, including versions for the iPad and the iPhone very nicely - it's not even available for Windows. It's a bit more $$, but worth it.
>
> Bekah
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:54 AM, neelie wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a Mac user from the mid 1990's and LOVE all Apple products....BUT....I'm so tired of the premium prices we sometimes have to pay for software!
>>>
>>> Today I got an email from Ancestry.com for a special price on family tree software. It sounded good - regular price $59.99 on sale for $39.99. But at the bottom of the notice was the dreaded "not for Macs" message, with a link for the Mac version. That turns out to be $69.99, with NO sale price.
>>
>> Why don't you teach them a lesson in economics by switching to a competing program? There are tons of choices for genealogy software, some of which are even free:
>>
>>
>> GEDCOM Editor
>> http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=GEDCOM-Editor
>>
>> GEDitCOM
>> http://www.geditcom.com/
>>
>> SeeGEDCOMX
>> http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/family-history/see-gedcom/
>>
>> Genealogy Pro
>> http://www.genealogypro.net/Home/
>>
>> GenearationX
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/generationx
>>
>> Heredis
>> http://www.heredis.com/myheredis/webroot/discover_macx.htm
>>
>> ohmiGene
>> http://ohmi.celeonet.fr/ohmiGene/indexEN.html
>>
>> Osk
>> http://www.studlar.net/en/software/
>>
>> MacFamilyTree
>> http://www.onlymac.de/html/stammbaum4en.html
>>
>> TreeTracker
>> http://www.devoesquared.com/
>>
>> Reunion
>> http://www.leisterpro.com/
>>
>> iFamily
>> http://www.ifamilyforleopard.com/
>>
>> My Blood
>> http://www.myblood-line.com/
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>> Randy B. Singer
>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Sat Mar 2, 2013 11:53 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

I am planning to make a bootable flash drive version of an OS X installer disc. I'd like to have a flash drive that can be used for installing 3 different versions of OS X.

I know I can partition the flash drive into several drives. But can I boot any of them, given they are formatted as bootable?

Thanks,
Dave
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