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Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:42 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Carol Corley" floridabouvs
Randy, thanks for your suggestions, I will try them.
I have been through this with Apple techs and they couldn't fix it, just said to delete the account and reinstall. But that's a pain if you have to do it frequently.
It never happens on the PC because i log in via a desktop icon, but it also never happens on my iPads or iPhone.
On this latest occasion, I got an email about something and wanted to make a purchase. I originally read the email on my iPad and went to the Mac to call it up and actually make the purchase. But even after entering my password several times, the Mac wouldn't bring up that particular account. I even went to Preferences and re-entered the PW there. And yes, it was the correct PW :)
So I went to the PC to do the job.
I don't believe it is a Mac hardware error, and I accept that it is amYahoo issue. But still annoying and I would like to fix it.
I get my email on the Mac not through signing onto Yahoo via an icon, as I do on the PC. I read it on the Mac via the mail program, like I do on the iPads.
Thanks again,
Carol
> As far as I can tell, Yahoo email seems to be a major weakness of the iMac.
> I have several Yahoo accounts and one Gmail. Periodically, the iMac will not recognize one or more of the Yahoo accounts and I can't get mail. It keeps asking me for the password, which has not changed.
This is a fairly common problem. It's not unique to Yahoo, or any particular ISP.
It is due to a timing issue between Mail
and your ISP. Mail gives your account password before your ISP's
server is ready for it. When the server is finally ready for it, the
password has already been given, and the server must request it again.
Thus you get a request for you to manually give your password.
Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
Launch the Keychain application, located in your Utilities
folder.
in the Edit menu, choose Keychain List. Now in the Shared column check both System and Login.
In the upper left column, highlight Login.
In the lower left column, highlight Passwords.
In the right window scroll until
you find your internet service provider's incoming and outgoing mail servers.
They are usually called something like:
"mail.yourisp.com"
and
"smtp.yourisp.com"
For Comcast they are:
"mail.comcast.net"
and
"smtp.comcast.net"
Double-clicking on each (in turn) will bring up a window with tabs at the top
which say Attributes and Access Control.
Select Access Control.
Then select "Allow all applications to access this item." Make sure you do this for both
the incoming server and outgoing server
keychain items.
___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
Sent from my iPad 3
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I have been through this with Apple techs and they couldn't fix it, just said to delete the account and reinstall. But that's a pain if you have to do it frequently.
It never happens on the PC because i log in via a desktop icon, but it also never happens on my iPads or iPhone.
On this latest occasion, I got an email about something and wanted to make a purchase. I originally read the email on my iPad and went to the Mac to call it up and actually make the purchase. But even after entering my password several times, the Mac wouldn't bring up that particular account. I even went to Preferences and re-entered the PW there. And yes, it was the correct PW :)
So I went to the PC to do the job.
I don't believe it is a Mac hardware error, and I accept that it is amYahoo issue. But still annoying and I would like to fix it.
I get my email on the Mac not through signing onto Yahoo via an icon, as I do on the PC. I read it on the Mac via the mail program, like I do on the iPads.
Thanks again,
Carol
> As far as I can tell, Yahoo email seems to be a major weakness of the iMac.
> I have several Yahoo accounts and one Gmail. Periodically, the iMac will not recognize one or more of the Yahoo accounts and I can't get mail. It keeps asking me for the password, which has not changed.
This is a fairly common problem. It's not unique to Yahoo, or any particular ISP.
It is due to a timing issue between Mail
and your ISP. Mail gives your account password before your ISP's
server is ready for it. When the server is finally ready for it, the
password has already been given, and the server must request it again.
Thus you get a request for you to manually give your password.
Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
Launch the Keychain application, located in your Utilities
folder.
in the Edit menu, choose Keychain List. Now in the Shared column check both System and Login.
In the upper left column, highlight Login.
In the lower left column, highlight Passwords.
In the right window scroll until
you find your internet service provider'
They are usually called something like:
"mail.yourisp.
and
"smtp.yourisp.
For Comcast they are:
"mail.comcast.
and
"smtp.comcast.
Double-clicking on each (in turn) will bring up a window with tabs at the top
which say Attributes and Access Control.
Select Access Control.
Then select "Allow all applications to access this item." Make sure you do this for both
the incoming server and outgoing server
keychain items.
____________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
Sent from my iPad 3
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:58 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Patti A Robertson" parpiano
Randy, I've also been having login issues with my ISP and started to try your fix here, and after I checked System and Login, I now have a window in keychain access that only has two lines - one says Microsoft_Intermediate_Certificate and the other System, which is checked. Nothing else is there to highlight.
Help?
thanks!
Patti
On Jun 9, 2013, at 11:54 PM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.com > wrote:
>
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Carol wrote:
>
> > As far as I can tell, Yahoo email seems to be a major weakness of the iMac.
> > I have several Yahoo accounts and one Gmail. Periodically, the iMac will not recognize one or more of the Yahoo accounts and I can't get mail. It keeps asking me for the password, which has not changed.
>
> This is a fairly common problem. It's not unique to Yahoo, or any particular ISP.
> It is due to a timing issue between Mail
> and your ISP. Mail gives your account password before your ISP's
> server is ready for it. When the server is finally ready for it, the
> password has already been given, and the server must request it again.
> Thus you get a request for you to manually give your password.
>
> Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
>
> Launch the Keychain application, located in your Utilities
> folder.
>
> in the Edit menu, choose Keychain List. Now in the Shared column check both System and Login.
>
> In the upper left column, highlight Login.
> In the lower left column, highlight Passwords.
>
> In the right window scroll until
> you find your internet service provider's incoming and outgoing mail servers.
> They are usually called something like:
> "mail.yourisp.com"
> and
> "smtp.yourisp.com"
>
> For Comcast they are:
> "mail.comcast.net"
> and
> "smtp.comcast.net"
>
> Double-clicking on each (in turn) will bring up a window with tabs at the top
> which say Attributes and Access Control.
> Select Access Control.
>
> Then select "Allow all applications to access this item." Make sure you do this for both
> the incoming server and outgoing server
> keychain items.
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
>
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Help?
thanks!
Patti
On Jun 9, 2013, at 11:54 PM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.
>
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Carol wrote:
>
> > As far as I can tell, Yahoo email seems to be a major weakness of the iMac.
> > I have several Yahoo accounts and one Gmail. Periodically, the iMac will not recognize one or more of the Yahoo accounts and I can't get mail. It keeps asking me for the password, which has not changed.
>
> This is a fairly common problem. It's not unique to Yahoo, or any particular ISP.
> It is due to a timing issue between Mail
> and your ISP. Mail gives your account password before your ISP's
> server is ready for it. When the server is finally ready for it, the
> password has already been given, and the server must request it again.
> Thus you get a request for you to manually give your password.
>
> Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
>
> Launch the Keychain application, located in your Utilities
> folder.
>
> in the Edit menu, choose Keychain List. Now in the Shared column check both System and Login.
>
> In the upper left column, highlight Login.
> In the lower left column, highlight Passwords.
>
> In the right window scroll until
> you find your internet service provider'
> They are usually called something like:
> "mail.yourisp.
> and
> "smtp.yourisp.
>
> For Comcast they are:
> "mail.comcast.
> and
> "smtp.comcast.
>
> Double-clicking on each (in turn) will bring up a window with tabs at the top
> which say Attributes and Access Control.
> Select Access Control.
>
> Then select "Allow all applications to access this item." Make sure you do this for both
> the incoming server and outgoing server
> keychain items.
>
> ____________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattor
> ____________
>
>
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"RLN37" RLN37
I mostly use Safari to read and write my Yahoo email on my Mac Pro and laptops. Safari often has problems loading attachments. When that happens I go to Firefox and use its email capabilities, which work fine when Safari fails. I suspect this has something to do with Yahoo mail. Yahoo's email service has been flaky for at least a year. Sometimes it works fine, other times there are problems, no matter how you connect. Sometimes you cannot delete unwanted emails, sometimes it runs VERY slow, sometimes deleted emails pop up in the Inbox after being deleted. Yahoo's problems seem especially noticeable on Fridays and weekends. And whenever Yahoo changes its "look", as they like to do too often, email service suffers. So for me, I see both browser problems with Safari, and more fundamental problems with Yahoo mail. Firefox seems to work just fine - I like it better then IE, and better than Safari.
Baseball Bob
Baseball Bob
Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
I wonder if there is a fix for a similar issue with accessing mail from iOS?
From my phone it often take a long time to see the first message. Sometimes a pw is requested, sometimes not.
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 9 Jun 2013, at 11:54 PM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.com > wrote:
Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
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From my phone it often take a long time to see the first message. Sometimes a pw is requested, sometimes not.
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 9 Jun 2013, at 11:54 PM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.
Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
Should add: I access mail from phone via wifi only. I don't use 3G (or whatever the flavor is today).
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 10 Jun 2013, at 08:23 AM, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.com > wrote:
I wonder if there is a fix for a similar issue with accessing mail from iOS?
From my phone it often take a long time to see the first message. Sometimes a pw is requested, sometimes not.
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 9 Jun 2013, at 11:54 PM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.com > wrote:
Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
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Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 10 Jun 2013, at 08:23 AM, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.
I wonder if there is a fix for a similar issue with accessing mail from iOS?
From my phone it often take a long time to see the first message. Sometimes a pw is requested, sometimes not.
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 9 Jun 2013, at 11:54 PM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.
Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
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<http://www.macsuppo
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
Some filters have 2 outlets. If yours does, be sure to plug into the correct one.
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 10 Jun 2013, at 04:47 AM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
We had the filter in on the first try but then the tech told me to take it off. I think I might try it on in the other jacks.
Bekah
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Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 10 Jun 2013, at 04:47 AM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal
We had the filter in on the first try but then the tech told me to take it off. I think I might try it on in the other jacks.
Bekah
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Today for the first time I heard the word "petabyte"; used in a radio
news broadcast for the first time.
The news story described the storage capacity of a government agency as
being in the petabytes or the equivalent of one trillion DVD discs.
Another article mentioned that Google processes about 20 to 25
petabytes of data per day.
How to put that into some kind of human perspective.
Got curious and looked this up.
- - - - -
deca (ten - from Greek for "ten" sometimes spelled "deka")
hecto (hundred - "hecto" from Greek for hundred)
kilo byte (thousand - "kilo" from Greek for thousand)
mega byte (million - "mega" from Greek for "great")
tera byte (trillion - "tera" from Greek for "monster")
peta byte (quadrillion - "peta" from Greek for five but meaning fifth
power)
exa byte (quintillion - "exa" from Greek for six as in sixth power)
zetta byte (sextillion - "zetta" from Greek for seven as in seventh
power)
yotta byte (septillion - "yotta" from Greek for eight as in eighth
power)
- - - - -
If we recall that the first 1984 Macintosh had a single 800 kilobyte
3.5 inch floppy drive that contained the system AND application maybe
it puts into perspective petabytes and terabytes since hard drives are
now being sold in 4 terabyte sizes.
Denver Dan
Today for the first time I heard the word "petabyte"
news broadcast for the first time.
The news story described the storage capacity of a government agency as
being in the petabytes or the equivalent of one trillion DVD discs.
Another article mentioned that Google processes about 20 to 25
petabytes of data per day.
How to put that into some kind of human perspective.
Got curious and looked this up.
- - - - -
deca (ten - from Greek for "ten" sometimes spelled "deka"
hecto (hundred - "hecto" from Greek for hundred)
kilo byte (thousand - "kilo" from Greek for thousand)
mega byte (million - "mega" from Greek for "great"
tera byte (trillion - "tera" from Greek for "monster"
peta byte (quadrillion - "peta" from Greek for five but meaning fifth
power)
exa byte (quintillion - "exa" from Greek for six as in sixth power)
zetta byte (sextillion - "zetta" from Greek for seven as in seventh
power)
yotta byte (septillion - "yotta" from Greek for eight as in eighth
power)
- - - - -
If we recall that the first 1984 Macintosh had a single 800 kilobyte
3.5 inch floppy drive that contained the system AND application maybe
it puts into perspective petabytes and terabytes since hard drives are
now being sold in 4 terabyte sizes.
Denver Dan
Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ardell Faul" computer_monitor_service_company
You skipped or omitted Billion, Dan. Which we call a Giga byte size hard
drive
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.net
509-891-5188
On 6/10/2013 9:16 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Today for the first time I heard the word "petabyte"; used in a radio
> news broadcast for the first time.
>
> The news story described the storage capacity of a government agency as
> being in the petabytes or the equivalent of one trillion DVD discs.
> Another article mentioned that Google processes about 20 to 25
> petabytes of data per day.
>
> How to put that into some kind of human perspective.
>
> Got curious and looked this up.
>
> - - - - -
> deca (ten - from Greek for "ten" sometimes spelled "deka")
>
> hecto (hundred - "hecto" from Greek for hundred)
>
> kilo byte (thousand - "kilo" from Greek for thousand)
>
> mega byte (million - "mega" from Greek for "great")
>
> tera byte (trillion - "tera" from Greek for "monster")
>
> peta byte (quadrillion - "peta" from Greek for five but meaning fifth
> power)
>
> exa byte (quintillion - "exa" from Greek for six as in sixth power)
>
> zetta byte (sextillion - "zetta" from Greek for seven as in seventh
> power)
>
> yotta byte (septillion - "yotta" from Greek for eight as in eighth
> power)
> - - - - -
>
> If we recall that the first 1984 Macintosh had a single 800 kilobyte
> 3.5 inch floppy drive that contained the system AND application maybe
> it puts into perspective petabytes and terabytes since hard drives are
> now being sold in 4 terabyte sizes.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
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drive
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.
509-891-5188
On 6/10/2013 9:16 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Today for the first time I heard the word "petabyte"
> news broadcast for the first time.
>
> The news story described the storage capacity of a government agency as
> being in the petabytes or the equivalent of one trillion DVD discs.
> Another article mentioned that Google processes about 20 to 25
> petabytes of data per day.
>
> How to put that into some kind of human perspective.
>
> Got curious and looked this up.
>
> - - - - -
> deca (ten - from Greek for "ten" sometimes spelled "deka"
>
> hecto (hundred - "hecto" from Greek for hundred)
>
> kilo byte (thousand - "kilo" from Greek for thousand)
>
> mega byte (million - "mega" from Greek for "great"
>
> tera byte (trillion - "tera" from Greek for "monster"
>
> peta byte (quadrillion - "peta" from Greek for five but meaning fifth
> power)
>
> exa byte (quintillion - "exa" from Greek for six as in sixth power)
>
> zetta byte (sextillion - "zetta" from Greek for seven as in seventh
> power)
>
> yotta byte (septillion - "yotta" from Greek for eight as in eighth
> power)
> - - - - -
>
> If we recall that the first 1984 Macintosh had a single 800 kilobyte
> 3.5 inch floppy drive that contained the system AND application maybe
> it puts into perspective petabytes and terabytes since hard drives are
> now being sold in 4 terabyte sizes.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> If we recall that the first 1984 Macintosh had a single 800 kilobyte
> 3.5 inch floppy drive that contained the system AND application maybe
> it puts into perspective petabytes and terabytes since hard drives are
> now being sold in 4 terabyte sizes.
>
> Denver Dan
No. That came later. The original Mac had a drive of half that size, 400k. Still, though, it was a good deal larger than the 5.25" floppy on the Apple ][, which held 143k.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
That's right. I had forgotten. I only used a 1984 Mac a couple of
times inserting the 400 k discs to boot and run programs.
D
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:35:49 -0400, Barry Austern wrote:
> No. That came later. The original Mac had a drive of half that size,
> 400k. Still, though, it was a good deal larger than the 5.25" floppy
> on the Apple ][, which held 143k.
> --
> Barry Austern
That's right. I had forgotten. I only used a 1984 Mac a couple of
times inserting the 400 k discs to boot and run programs.
D
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:35:49 -0400, Barry Austern wrote:
> No. That came later. The original Mac had a drive of half that size,
> 400k. Still, though, it was a good deal larger than the 5.25" floppy
> on the Apple ][, which held 143k.
> --
> Barry Austern
Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Here's a handy reference for the SI prefixes.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petabyte >
Otto
On 10 June 2013 17:28, Ardell Faul <ardell@icehouse.net > wrote:
> You skipped or omitted Billion, Dan. Which we call a Giga byte size hard
> drive
>
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<http://en.wikipedia
Otto
On 10 June 2013 17:28, Ardell Faul <ardell@icehouse.
> You skipped or omitted Billion, Dan. Which we call a Giga byte size hard
> drive
>
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill Boulware" boulware0224
So far the features that have been demoed are awesome!
Can't wait to try this out - they have combined all the best features of
iOS into OS X it seems...
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Can't wait to try this out - they have combined all the best features of
iOS into OS X it seems...
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
iBooks on a Mac. Finnnnnaaaalllllyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...> wrote:
>
> So far the features that have been demoed are awesome!
>
> Can't wait to try this out - they have combined all the best features of
> iOS into OS X it seems...
>
>
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> So far the features that have been demoed are awesome!
>
> Can't wait to try this out - they have combined all the best features of
> iOS into OS X it seems...
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pete Nalda" lpnalda
I think this is going to be my favorite feature. I bet the Gutenburg KJV bible will perform better on my 2009 mbp better than on my iPhone 4! And I KNOW VoiceOver will sound better too :)
On Jun 10, 2013, at 1:26 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
> iBooks on a Mac. Finnnnnaaaalllllyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...> wrote:
>>
>> So far the features that have been demoed are awesome!
>>
>> Can't wait to try this out - they have combined all the best features of
>> iOS into OS X it seems...
>>
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> iBooks on a Mac. Finnnnnaaaalllllyyy
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
>>
>> So far the features that have been demoed are awesome!
>>
>> Can't wait to try this out - they have combined all the best features of
>> iOS into OS X it seems...
>>
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Mike" leicamike2006
I will be getting a Mac G-3 computer and I want to use my current monitor that I use with my PC. Do I need an adapter or new cable?
Mike
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