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Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"ennisart" ennisart
Hi,
I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
TIA
John
I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
TIA
John
Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
I still find it hard to believe that you are bridged to the internet and
have a public IP but if you do then its a bad idea.
If something is coming straight to you then you are not protected from
those thing you probably dont want coming straight to you.
Explaining it in any real detail would require more time than I have but I
will say that if you had a PC and not a Mac I suspect the machine would
already be fully compromised. Macs have better security but they are far
from fool proof and if basic security is ignored it will eventually make
you sorry.
If you really want to understand why then first lean routing, then about
listing ports, then look into application vulnerabilities and various
attack metheds.
Here a good place to start to see what you computer is showing to the world
-
http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20070425165628961
-Dane
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:27 AM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
> What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> So what if something is coming straight to me?
> What is a bad idea?
>
> You may know what you are talking about but
> it would help if you explained to me.
>
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Dane Reugger <dane@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you are not natted - hence no router (or routing) just a
> modem
> > in bridge mode - meaning it's passing your public ip straight to your
> > computer. So your computer is directly accessible - in simple terms -if
> you
> > have VNC running or network shares they might be reachable over the
> > internet.
> >
> > This is a VERY bad idea and I've not heard of an ISP doing that in years.
> > If I were you I would go get a router of any sort.
> >
> > -Dane
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
> >
> > > plain to me once more, slowly,
> > > how this number is used? If this number is
> > > like everyone else's how come my internet
> > > traffic doesn't get messed up with everyone else's.
> > >
> > > Wouldn't my computer need a specific address
> > > to my computer only, so that internet traffic I
> > > generate and receive goes to me alone?
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
have a public IP but if you do then its a bad idea.
If something is coming straight to you then you are not protected from
those thing you probably dont want coming straight to you.
Explaining it in any real detail would require more time than I have but I
will say that if you had a PC and not a Mac I suspect the machine would
already be fully compromised. Macs have better security but they are far
from fool proof and if basic security is ignored it will eventually make
you sorry.
If you really want to understand why then first lean routing, then about
listing ports, then look into application vulnerabilities and various
attack metheds.
Here a good place to start to see what you computer is showing to the world
-
http://hints.
-Dane
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:27 AM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.
> What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> So what if something is coming straight to me?
> What is a bad idea?
>
> You may know what you are talking about but
> it would help if you explained to me.
>
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > Sounds like you are not natted - hence no router (or routing) just a
> modem
> > in bridge mode - meaning it's passing your public ip straight to your
> > computer. So your computer is directly accessible - in simple terms -if
> you
> > have VNC running or network shares they might be reachable over the
> > internet.
> >
> > This is a VERY bad idea and I've not heard of an ISP doing that in years.
> > If I were you I would go get a router of any sort.
> >
> > -Dane
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@
> >
> > > plain to me once more, slowly,
> > > how this number is used? If this number is
> > > like everyone else's how come my internet
> > > traffic doesn't get messed up with everyone else's.
> > >
> > > Wouldn't my computer need a specific address
> > > to my computer only, so that internet traffic I
> > > generate and receive goes to me alone?
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:29 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
This feature is called a firewall.
You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
which can sometimes be bypassed.
A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
connected to the internet.
Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
needs to be.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> So what if something is coming straight to me?
> What is a bad idea?
>
> You may know what you are talking about but
> it would help if you explained to me.
I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
This feature is called a firewall.
You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
which can sometimes be bypassed.
A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
connected to the internet.
Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
needs to be.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> So what if something is coming straight to me?
> What is a bad idea?
>
> You may know what you are talking about but
> it would help if you explained to me.
Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Hi, Dan. In SystemPrefs/Security&Privacy, my firewall is ON and has been locked for a long time.
Everyone talks about a Router, but I have no router, unless there is a router within my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem that I purchased rather than pay the cable company.
I receive the internet through Comcast cable, into my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem, then direct into my iMac. There is no other workstation here. I have a printer device and an external HD connected via firewire.
What confuses me is everyone's insistence that I have an IP Address of 192.xxxxx. In System Preferences/Network/Ethernet/Configure IPv4/ I selected Using DHCP. I thought this allows Comcast to assign a dynamic IP address.
If I click Advanced/Ethernet/TCP/IP/Configure IPv4/Using DCHP, the IPx4 address is: 68.53.xxxxxx, I clicked renew my DHCP license to update, the number isn't different, it is always 68.xxxxxxxx.
WhatIsMyIP address? shows the same 68.xxxxxxxx number.
Why is 68.xxxx wrong and 192.xxxxx is right?
Still trying to see through the fog.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> This feature is called a firewall.
>
> You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
>
> Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> which can sometimes be bypassed.
>
> A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> connected to the internet.
>
> Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> needs to be.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > What is a bad idea?
> >
> > You may know what you are talking about but
> > it would help if you explained to me.
>
Everyone talks about a Router, but I have no router, unless there is a router within my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem that I purchased rather than pay the cable company.
I receive the internet through Comcast cable, into my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem, then direct into my iMac. There is no other workstation here. I have a printer device and an external HD connected via firewire.
What confuses me is everyone'
If I click Advanced/Ethernet/
WhatIsMyIP address? shows the same 68.xxxxxxxx number.
Why is 68.xxxx wrong and 192.xxxxx is right?
Still trying to see through the fog.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Howdy.
>
> I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> This feature is called a firewall.
>
> You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
>
> Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> which can sometimes be bypassed.
>
> A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> connected to the internet.
>
> Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> needs to be.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > What is a bad idea?
> >
> > You may know what you are talking about but
> > it would help if you explained to me.
>
Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:15 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
Pretty much but it's even simpler than that - a router with or without a
firewall adds a layer between your computer and the internet (NAT or
Masquerade) so services open on your devices are no directly exposed to the
internet. If you want them on the internet you must explicitly port forward
the service from the internet through the router to your computer.
Firewall is something of a generic term but generally it manages the
network traffic. A firewall generally includes a router but doesn't have
to. For example I like the Pfsense firewall and frequently combine it with
another firewall or UTM (Unified Threat Management) called Untangle. Both
have a firewall and routing but I use Pfsense as the firewall and router
(and QoS) then I put the Untangle box in bridge mode with no routing so it
can do things like spam & virus filtering, Web content filtering.
Bottom line is firewall would be nice but a simple natting router is really
a must in my opinion.
-Dane
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> This feature is called a firewall.
>
> You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
>
> Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> which can sometimes be bypassed.
>
> A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> connected to the internet.
>
> Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> needs to be.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > What is a bad idea?
> >
> > You may know what you are talking about but
> > it would help if you explained to me.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
firewall adds a layer between your computer and the internet (NAT or
Masquerade) so services open on your devices are no directly exposed to the
internet. If you want them on the internet you must explicitly port forward
the service from the internet through the router to your computer.
Firewall is something of a generic term but generally it manages the
network traffic. A firewall generally includes a router but doesn't have
to. For example I like the Pfsense firewall and frequently combine it with
another firewall or UTM (Unified Threat Management) called Untangle. Both
have a firewall and routing but I use Pfsense as the firewall and router
(and QoS) then I put the Untangle box in bridge mode with no routing so it
can do things like spam & virus filtering, Web content filtering.
Bottom line is firewall would be nice but a simple natting router is really
a must in my opinion.
-Dane
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> This feature is called a firewall.
>
> You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
>
> Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> which can sometimes be bypassed.
>
> A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> connected to the internet.
>
> Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> needs to be.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > What is a bad idea?
> >
> > You may know what you are talking about but
> > it would help if you explained to me.
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill Boulware" boulware0224
68 is your "public" up assigned by Comcast. If you had a router it would be 68 and would assign your Mac a 192 address you do not have router. I would get one as your computer is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
Sent from a mobile device, please ignore any auto corrected or typographical errors.
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 13:10, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Hi, Dan. In SystemPrefs/Security&Privacy, my firewall is ON and has been locked for a long time.
>
> Everyone talks about a Router, but I have no router, unless there is a router within my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem that I purchased rather than pay the cable company.
>
> I receive the internet through Comcast cable, into my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem, then direct into my iMac. There is no other workstation here. I have a printer device and an external HD connected via firewire.
>
> What confuses me is everyone's insistence that I have an IP Address of 192.xxxxx. In System Preferences/Network/Ethernet/Configure IPv4/ I selected Using DHCP. I thought this allows Comcast to assign a dynamic IP address.
>
> If I click Advanced/Ethernet/TCP/IP/Configure IPv4/Using DCHP, the IPx4 address is: 68.53.xxxxxx, I clicked renew my DHCP license to update, the number isn't different, it is always 68.xxxxxxxx.
>
> WhatIsMyIP address? shows the same 68.xxxxxxxx number.
>
> Why is 68.xxxx wrong and 192.xxxxx is right?
>
> Still trying to see through the fog.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy.
> >
> > I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> > configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> > able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> > This feature is called a firewall.
> >
> > You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
> >
> > Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> > which can sometimes be bypassed.
> >
> > A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> > unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> > connected to the internet.
> >
> > Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> > needs to be.
> >
> > Denver Dan
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > > What is a bad idea?
> > >
> > > You may know what you are talking about but
> > > it would help if you explained to me.
> >
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sent from a mobile device, please ignore any auto corrected or typographical errors.
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 13:10, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.
>
> Hi, Dan. In SystemPrefs/
>
> Everyone talks about a Router, but I have no router, unless there is a router within my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem that I purchased rather than pay the cable company.
>
> I receive the internet through Comcast cable, into my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem, then direct into my iMac. There is no other workstation here. I have a printer device and an external HD connected via firewire.
>
> What confuses me is everyone'
>
> If I click Advanced/Ethernet/
>
> WhatIsMyIP address? shows the same 68.xxxxxxxx number.
>
> Why is 68.xxxx wrong and 192.xxxxx is right?
>
> Still trying to see through the fog.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > Howdy.
> >
> > I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> > configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> > able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> > This feature is called a firewall.
> >
> > You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
> >
> > Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> > which can sometimes be bypassed.
> >
> > A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> > unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> > connected to the internet.
> >
> > Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> > needs to be.
> >
> > Denver Dan
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > > What is a bad idea?
> > >
> > > You may know what you are talking about but
> > > it would help if you explained to me.
> >
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
> you do not have router. I would get one as your computer
> is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
>
So you are saying my firewall being turned on is actually useless?
That a router would be a working firewall?
> is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
>
So you are saying my firewall being turned on is actually useless?
That a router would be a working firewall?
Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Dane are you on a Mac or a PC?
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Dane Reugger <dane@...> wrote:
>
> Pretty much but it's even simpler than that - a router with or without a
> firewall adds a layer between your computer and the internet (NAT or
> Masquerade) so services open on your devices are no directly exposed to the
> internet. If you want them on the internet you must explicitly port forward
> the service from the internet through the router to your computer.
>
> Firewall is something of a generic term but generally it manages the
> network traffic. A firewall generally includes a router but doesn't have
> to. For example I like the Pfsense firewall and frequently combine it with
> another firewall or UTM (Unified Threat Management) called Untangle. Both
> have a firewall and routing but I use Pfsense as the firewall and router
> (and QoS) then I put the Untangle box in bridge mode with no routing so it
> can do things like spam & virus filtering, Web content filtering.
>
> Bottom line is firewall would be nice but a simple natting router is really
> a must in my opinion.
>
> -Dane
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> > Howdy.
> >
> > I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> > configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> > able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> > This feature is called a firewall.
> >
> > You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
> >
> > Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> > which can sometimes be bypassed.
> >
> > A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> > unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> > connected to the internet.
> >
> > Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> > needs to be.
> >
> > Denver Dan
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > > What is a bad idea?
> > >
> > > You may know what you are talking about but
> > > it would help if you explained to me.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Pretty much but it's even simpler than that - a router with or without a
> firewall adds a layer between your computer and the internet (NAT or
> Masquerade) so services open on your devices are no directly exposed to the
> internet. If you want them on the internet you must explicitly port forward
> the service from the internet through the router to your computer.
>
> Firewall is something of a generic term but generally it manages the
> network traffic. A firewall generally includes a router but doesn't have
> to. For example I like the Pfsense firewall and frequently combine it with
> another firewall or UTM (Unified Threat Management) called Untangle. Both
> have a firewall and routing but I use Pfsense as the firewall and router
> (and QoS) then I put the Untangle box in bridge mode with no routing so it
> can do things like spam & virus filtering, Web content filtering.
>
> Bottom line is firewall would be nice but a simple natting router is really
> a must in my opinion.
>
> -Dane
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@
>
> > Howdy.
> >
> > I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> > configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> > able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> > This feature is called a firewall.
> >
> > You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
> >
> > Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> > which can sometimes be bypassed.
> >
> > A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> > unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> > connected to the internet.
> >
> > Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> > needs to be.
> >
> > Denver Dan
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > > What is a bad idea?
> > >
> > > You may know what you are talking about but
> > > it would help if you explained to me.
> >
> >
> > ------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://www.macsuppo
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill Boulware" boulware0224
Its not useless. It just not the same
On Jun 18, 2013 1:26 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> > you do not have router. I would get one as your computer
> > is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
> >
> So you are saying my firewall being turned on is actually useless?
> That a router would be a working firewall?
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
On Jun 18, 2013 1:26 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.
> **
>
>
> > you do not have router. I would get one as your computer
> > is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
> >
> So you are saying my firewall being turned on is actually useless?
> That a router would be a working firewall?
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
How?
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...> wrote:
>
> Its not useless. It just not the same
> On Jun 18, 2013 1:26 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > > you do not have router. I would get one as your computer
> > > is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
> > >
> > So you are saying my firewall being turned on is actually useless?
> > That a router would be a working firewall?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Its not useless. It just not the same
> On Jun 18, 2013 1:26 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > > you do not have router. I would get one as your computer
> > > is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
> > >
> > So you are saying my firewall being turned on is actually useless?
> > That a router would be a working firewall?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
At the moment a Mac Book Pro w/ 10.8.3 OS. I also have a iMac at home. At
the office I have 4 (Shuttle w/ Windows 7, Dell w/ Windows 8, Mac Mini w/
10.6.?, and a laptop w/ Linux Mint)
What difference does it make?
-Dane
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:27 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Dane are you on a Mac or a PC?
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Dane Reugger <dane@...> wrote:
> >
> > Pretty much but it's even simpler than that - a router with or without a
> > firewall adds a layer between your computer and the internet (NAT or
> > Masquerade) so services open on your devices are no directly exposed to
> the
> > internet. If you want them on the internet you must explicitly port
> forward
> > the service from the internet through the router to your computer.
> >
> > Firewall is something of a generic term but generally it manages the
> > network traffic. A firewall generally includes a router but doesn't have
> > to. For example I like the Pfsense firewall and frequently combine it
> with
> > another firewall or UTM (Unified Threat Management) called Untangle. Both
> > have a firewall and routing but I use Pfsense as the firewall and router
> > (and QoS) then I put the Untangle box in bridge mode with no routing so
> it
> > can do things like spam & virus filtering, Web content filtering.
> >
> > Bottom line is firewall would be nice but a simple natting router is
> really
> > a must in my opinion.
> >
> > -Dane
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy.
> > >
> > > I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> > > configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> > > able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> > > This feature is called a firewall.
> > >
> > > You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
> > >
> > > Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> > > which can sometimes be bypassed.
> > >
> > > A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> > > unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> > > connected to the internet.
> > >
> > > Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> > > needs to be.
> > >
> > > Denver Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > > > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > > > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > > > What is a bad idea?
> > > >
> > > > You may know what you are talking about but
> > > > it would help if you explained to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Group FAQ:
> > > <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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the office I have 4 (Shuttle w/ Windows 7, Dell w/ Windows 8, Mac Mini w/
10.6.?, and a laptop w/ Linux Mint)
What difference does it make?
-Dane
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:27 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.
> Dane are you on a Mac or a PC?
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > Pretty much but it's even simpler than that - a router with or without a
> > firewall adds a layer between your computer and the internet (NAT or
> > Masquerade) so services open on your devices are no directly exposed to
> the
> > internet. If you want them on the internet you must explicitly port
> forward
> > the service from the internet through the router to your computer.
> >
> > Firewall is something of a generic term but generally it manages the
> > network traffic. A firewall generally includes a router but doesn't have
> > to. For example I like the Pfsense firewall and frequently combine it
> with
> > another firewall or UTM (Unified Threat Management) called Untangle. Both
> > have a firewall and routing but I use Pfsense as the firewall and router
> > (and QoS) then I put the Untangle box in bridge mode with no routing so
> it
> > can do things like spam & virus filtering, Web content filtering.
> >
> > Bottom line is firewall would be nice but a simple natting router is
> really
> > a must in my opinion.
> >
> > -Dane
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@
> >
> > > Howdy.
> > >
> > > I think Dane was saying that if your router or cable modem is
> > > configured as he thinks it is, then your Internet link might not be
> > > able to take advantage of a feature built into nearly all routers.
> > > This feature is called a firewall.
> > >
> > > You can turn on a firewall in your Mac's Security panel settings.
> > >
> > > Most routers also have a firewall which can be turned on or off and
> > > which can sometimes be bypassed.
> > >
> > > A firewall is a security enhancement that makes it difficult for
> > > unwanted intruders or hackers to access your computer when it is
> > > connected to the internet.
> > >
> > > Dane is saying that your system may be more open to intrusion than it
> > > needs to be.
> > >
> > > Denver Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:27:44 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> > > > What you are saying makes no sense to me.
> > > > So what if something is coming straight to me?
> > > > What is a bad idea?
> > > >
> > > > You may know what you are talking about but
> > > > it would help if you explained to me.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Group FAQ:
> > > <http://www.macsuppo
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:43 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"halboye18" halboye18
When someone changes their email address, I go into Contacts, delete the old address and replace it with the new one. However, when I go to address a new email to that person and begin to fill in their name in the "To" box, the old and the new one appear.
How do I permanently remove the old email address?
Thanks in advance for your help and advice, hal
hal horwitz
hal.horwitz@comcast.net
How do I permanently remove the old email address?
Thanks in advance for your help and advice, hal
hal horwitz
hal.horwitz@
Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:
cheeky_chas
Hal
Try this, in Mail go to Window/Previous Recipients and remove the address you no longer need.
Charles.
On 18 Jun 2013, at 16:43, halboye18 <hal.horwitz@comcast.net > wrote:
> When someone changes their email address, I go into Contacts, delete the old address and replace it with the new one. However, when I go to address a new email to that person and begin to fill in their name in the "To" box, the old and the new one appear.
>
> How do I permanently remove the old email address?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and advice, hal
>
> hal horwitz
>
> hal.horwitz@comcast.net
>
>
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Try this, in Mail go to Window/Previous Recipients and remove the address you no longer need.
Charles.
On 18 Jun 2013, at 16:43, halboye18 <hal.horwitz@
> When someone changes their email address, I go into Contacts, delete the old address and replace it with the new one. However, when I go to address a new email to that person and begin to fill in their name in the "To" box, the old and the new one appear.
>
> How do I permanently remove the old email address?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and advice, hal
>
> hal horwitz
>
> hal.horwitz@
>
>
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pat Taylor" pat412255
Select Window | Previous Recipients from the menu in Mac OS X Mail.
Highlight the address you want to remove.
You can highlight multiple addresses by holding down the Command key.
Click Remove from List.
On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:43 AM, halboye18 <hal.horwitz@comcast.net > wrote:
> When someone changes their email address, I go into Contacts, delete the old address and replace it with the new one. However, when I go to address a new email to that person and begin to fill in their name in the "To" box, the old and the new one appear.
>
> How do I permanently remove the old email address?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and advice, hal
>
> hal horwitz
>
> hal.horwitz@comcast.net
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Highlight the address you want to remove.
You can highlight multiple addresses by holding down the Command key.
Click Remove from List.
On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:43 AM, halboye18 <hal.horwitz@
> When someone changes their email address, I go into Contacts, delete the old address and replace it with the new one. However, when I go to address a new email to that person and begin to fill in their name in the "To" box, the old and the new one appear.
>
> How do I permanently remove the old email address?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and advice, hal
>
> hal horwitz
>
> hal.horwitz@
>
>
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I have ranted here a number of times about Western Digital MyBook model
HDs and Seagate FreeAgent HDs. I've had extremely poor experiences
with BOTH brands/models.
IMO these two models are efforts by WD and Seagate to dominate the big
box giant retail chain sales in North America (Costco, WalMart, Sam's
Club, Target, etc.).
To dominate sales in this market they have lowered prices on these
models and bought out the competition.
To lower prices they have made cases that are really really cheap and
missing features like on/off switches and automatic non configurable
sleep settings.
Cheap bridge chips (the little circuit board that provides connections
to the case's external ports and the drive itself) can often fail.
Even the design and materials of the ports are cheap and prone to
failure.
The actual bare hard drives inside the cases are about as good as any
on the market. It's the case that is the problem.
There are many Seagate and Western Digital bare drives in 3rd party
cases that do just fine.
I have a Buffalo LinkStation mirrored NAS RAID with two Seagate 1 TB
drives and it's all been running 24/7 for years - just an example.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:09:26 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> I remember buying a WD Hard Drive for my Mac in the nineties. Don't
> remember having any problems with it. That's a shame if their quality
> has lapsed. jr
I have ranted here a number of times about Western Digital MyBook model
HDs and Seagate FreeAgent HDs. I've had extremely poor experiences
with BOTH brands/models.
IMO these two models are efforts by WD and Seagate to dominate the big
box giant retail chain sales in North America (Costco, WalMart, Sam's
Club, Target, etc.).
To dominate sales in this market they have lowered prices on these
models and bought out the competition.
To lower prices they have made cases that are really really cheap and
missing features like on/off switches and automatic non configurable
sleep settings.
Cheap bridge chips (the little circuit board that provides connections
to the case's external ports and the drive itself) can often fail.
Even the design and materials of the ports are cheap and prone to
failure.
The actual bare hard drives inside the cases are about as good as any
on the market. It's the case that is the problem.
There are many Seagate and Western Digital bare drives in 3rd party
cases that do just fine.
I have a Buffalo LinkStation mirrored NAS RAID with two Seagate 1 TB
drives and it's all been running 24/7 for years - just an example.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:09:26 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> I remember buying a WD Hard Drive for my Mac in the nineties. Don't
> remember having any problems with it. That's a shame if their quality
> has lapsed. jr
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