6/13/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9599

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15 New Messages

Digest #9599
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Re: Maverick Ocean Pic by "halfhoff" halfhoff
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "Forrest Leedy" forrkazu
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "bob morin" rbmorin2002
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: AirPort Utility 6.3 Warning by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
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OWC Rumor of New Owner???  Fact or Fiction? by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"halfhoff" halfhoff

Oh I so agree!

The first thing that popped into my head was how uncaptivating that photo was. Usually I like to keep the in-the-box/download picture that comes with Mac OS X. I don't see myself keeping the Mavericks image. I think that they wanted to really hit home with the blues and teals and greens (which the final product of that image has).

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
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> It is not the most exciting image. Not one I would pick for a product icon. It might make a fair desktop photo, not having too many distracting things to make it hard to find the tiny icons and labels I keep on mine.
>
> But you know what, I don't buy software because of its icon or label.
>
> Brent
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> On Jun 12, 2013, at 3:32 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
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> Thanks. I can't say I have much opinion either way.
>
> Otto
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> On 12 June 2013 08:30, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
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> > http://images.apple.com/home/images/osx_hero_2x.jpg
> >
> > Sorry folks. here it is. Its just dull in contrast and color to me.
> >
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:58 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

From the OP, the problem appears to be with the utility itself connecting
to older base stations over Wi-Fi. Presumably, ethernet is OK?

Otto

On 13 June 2013 17:04, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@comcast.net> wrote:

> It certainly would be nice if you would tell us what the problem is. Back
> tracking is not all that easy.
>

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Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:25 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler

OK.
The problem was, in some cases, the AirPort Utility v6.3 could not connect
over Wi-Fi to certain older AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express base
stations. Ethernet connections did not seem to be affected.
I experienced the problem. I was reading a discussion group on the subject
at apple.com.
It seems that this is only a problem if the "Configure IPv6" setting is set
to "Off". I changed the setting to "Link-Local only" and now it is working
fine. (Network preference pane, Advanced Settings. TCP/IP tab.)
I am not sure if this is a viable work-around for everyone. I had IPv6
turned off because I don't need it and was told I could get better
performance by turning it off. In my case, I didn't really notice that much
of a performance difference, but left it off anyway. Others may have other
reasons for wanting IPv6 left off.

Jon

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> **
>
>
> From the OP, the problem appears to be with the utility itself connecting
> to older base stations over Wi-Fi. Presumably, ethernet is OK?
>
> Otto
>
>
> On 13 June 2013 17:04, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > It certainly would be nice if you would tell us what the problem is. Back
> > tracking is not all that easy.
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:31 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

As has already been asked here, just what is the problem? I've installed it, have an 802.11n Airport Extreme and an 802.11n Airport Express as well as an earlier Airport Express (802.11b?) and AU connects with all OK. I don't understand what the issue is.

............Mike

On Jun 13, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@gmail.com> wrote:

> So far, only the 802.11n AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express are showing up
> as problematic.
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Ken <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> I just upgraded yesterday and no issues yet. My Frisbee-white-13 year old
>> airport extreme w/modem port is still working, although I'm not running
>> thru the modem port so I can't report on that.
>> Ken S.
>> 2011 MacBook AIr w/SSD120
>> OS 10.8.4
>>
>>
>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Warning: You may not want to upgrade to AirPort Utility 6.3. There is a
>>> problem with the utility connecting to older AirPort Extreme base
>> stations
>>> (and maybe other models) over Wi-Fi.
>>> Version 6.2 is still viable. If you want to try 6.3, make sure you can
>>> restore to 6.2 if you have issues. I myself have the problem with a 1 1/2
>>> year old AirPort Extreme base station.
>>> Apple appears to be aware of the issue but has not resolved yet.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>
>> __
>>
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler

The issue is, in some cases, the Airport Utility v6.3 would not connect to
some older AirPort Extreme or Airport Express base stations over Wi-Fi. It
could not read the configurations nor modify them.
Jon

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> As has already been asked here, just what is the problem? I've installed
> it, have an 802.11n Airport Extreme and an 802.11n Airport Express as well
> as an earlier Airport Express (802.11b?) and AU connects with all OK. I
> don't understand what the issue is.
>
> ............Mike
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So far, only the 802.11n AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express are showing
> up
> > as problematic.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Ken <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> **
>
> >>
> >>
> >> I just upgraded yesterday and no issues yet. My Frisbee-white-13 year
> old
> >> airport extreme w/modem port is still working, although I'm not running
> >> thru the modem port so I can't report on that.
> >> Ken S.
> >> 2011 MacBook AIr w/SSD120
> >> OS 10.8.4
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@
> ...>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Warning: You may not want to upgrade to AirPort Utility 6.3. There is a
> >>> problem with the utility connecting to older AirPort Extreme base
> >> stations
> >>> (and maybe other models) over Wi-Fi.
> >>> Version 6.2 is still viable. If you want to try 6.3, make sure you can
> >>> restore to 6.2 if you have issues. I myself have the problem with a 1
> 1/2
> >>> year old AirPort Extreme base station.
> >>> Apple appears to be aware of the issue but has not resolved yet.
> >>>
> >>> Jon
> >>
> >> __
> >>
> >
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Forrest Leedy" forrkazu

Thanks for the explanation. The reason for my inquiry is the I have a 3rd generation AirPort Extreme which works fine for me. However, when they came out with AirPort Utility V6.2, I was one of the few that had problems with it because Apple left off the ability to use a printer that is hooked up to the AirPort. Of course Apple immediately made changes so that you could download the older version of the Utility and use that instead of V6.2. This of course left you with two AirPort Utilities, but you need only use one.

Even though I ran the 6.3 update, I don't think that it affects AirPort V5.6 that I am using. Why Apple left this ability to connect a printer off, I don't know. I did look at V6.3 and I still don't see that you can hook up a printer … external hard disk, yes, but not a printer.

Forrest

On Jun 13, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK.
> The problem was, in some cases, the AirPort Utility v6.3 could not connect
> over Wi-Fi to certain older AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express base
> stations. Ethernet connections did not seem to be affected.
> I experienced the problem. I was reading a discussion group on the subject
> at apple.com.
> It seems that this is only a problem if the "Configure IPv6" setting is set
> to "Off". I changed the setting to "Link-Local only" and now it is working
> fine. (Network preference pane, Advanced Settings. TCP/IP tab.)
> I am not sure if this is a viable work-around for everyone. I had IPv6
> turned off because I don't need it and was told I could get better
> performance by turning it off. In my case, I didn't really notice that much
> of a performance difference, but left it off anyway. Others may have other
> reasons for wanting IPv6 left off.
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> From the OP, the problem appears to be with the utility itself connecting
>> to older base stations over Wi-Fi. Presumably, ethernet is OK?
>>
>> Otto
>>
>>
>> On 13 June 2013 17:04, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It certainly would be nice if you would tell us what the problem is. Back
>>> tracking is not all that easy.
>>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler

Here's a summary:
If the discussion group over at Apple is correct, the functionality of the
Airport Utility was changed in version 6.3. It now seems to require IPv6.
If a Mac has IPv6 turned off, then Airport Utility v6.3 cannot connect to
an AirPort base station.
The affected IPv6 setting is located in the Network preference pane. In
Advanced Settings, TCP/IP tab. The label is: "Configure IPv6". If it is set
to off, change it to something else, "Link-Local only" is recommended, if
it was set to "Off".
This worked for me, so I am thinking the discussion group may be on to
something.
If anyone is interested in reading the discussion on the problem, here is a
link:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5096790?start=0&tstart=0

Jon

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation. The reason for my inquiry is the I have a 3rd
> generation AirPort Extreme which works fine for me. However, when they
> came out with AirPort Utility V6.2, I was one of the few that had problems
> with it because Apple left off the ability to use a printer that is hooked
> up to the AirPort. Of course Apple immediately made changes so that you
> could download the older version of the Utility and use that instead of
> V6.2. This of course left you with two AirPort Utilities, but you need
> only use one.
>
> Even though I ran the 6.3 update, I don't think that it affects AirPort
> V5.6 that I am using. Why Apple left this ability to connect a printer
> off, I don't know. I did look at V6.3 and I still don't see that you can
> hook up a printer … external hard disk, yes, but not a printer.
>
> Forrest
>
>

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Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:59 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"bob morin" rbmorin2002


On Jun 13, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@gmail.com> wrote:
> The affected IPv6 setting is located in the Network preference pane. In
> Advanced Settings, TCP/IP tab. The label is: "Configure IPv6". If it is set
> to off, change it to something else, "Link-Local only" is recommended, if
> it was set to "Off".

With my OS of 10.8.4 in the networks setting for IPv6 off is not an option. It was in earlier OS systems.

bob

bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com

Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 13 June 2013 20:59, bob morin <rbmorin11@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> With my OS of 10.8.4 in the networks setting for IPv6 off is not an
> option. It was in earlier OS systems.
>

Are you sure? It's there in mine in Ethernet > Advanced > TCP/IP and Wi-Fi
> Advanced > TCP/IP.

Otto
10.8.4

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Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

Your tip worked for me. Thanks for posting it as I was just getting ready to call Apple about the issue.

On Jun 13, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's a summary:
> If the discussion group over at Apple is correct, the functionality of the
> Airport Utility was changed in version 6.3. It now seems to require IPv6.
> If a Mac has IPv6 turned off, then Airport Utility v6.3 cannot connect to
> an AirPort base station.
> The affected IPv6 setting is located in the Network preference pane. In
> Advanced Settings, TCP/IP tab. The label is: "Configure IPv6". If it is set
> to off, change it to something else, "Link-Local only" is recommended, if
> it was set to "Off".
> This worked for me, so I am thinking the discussion group may be on to
> something.
> If anyone is interested in reading the discussion on the problem, here is a
> link:
>
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5096790?start=0&tstart=0
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the explanation. The reason for my inquiry is the I have a 3rd
>> generation AirPort Extreme which works fine for me. However, when they
>> came out with AirPort Utility V6.2, I was one of the few that had problems
>> with it because Apple left off the ability to use a printer that is hooked
>> up to the AirPort. Of course Apple immediately made changes so that you
>> could download the older version of the Utility and use that instead of
>> V6.2. This of course left you with two AirPort Utilities, but you need
>> only use one.
>>
>> Even though I ran the 6.3 update, I don't think that it affects AirPort
>> V5.6 that I am using. Why Apple left this ability to connect a printer
>> off, I don't know. I did look at V6.3 and I still don't see that you can
>> hook up a printer … external hard disk, yes, but not a printer.
>>
>> Forrest
>>
>>
>
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

How about late 2013 Mac Pro, and forget about the confusing or un-helpful nick names?

On Jun 13, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Denver Dan wrote:

Howdy.

Here are a couple of names I've seen suggested.

1. MacVader.

2. DarthMac.

3. The Tube.

4. Waste Can (carefully avoiding "trash can").

My first thought was MacPro Eggplant.

Or, MacPro Mag (as in MagLite, hummm? has possibilities!)

Or, MacPro Vase.

Or, MacPro The Jug (in honor of the WW II era Republic P-47 fighter
nicknamed "The Jug").

Denver Dan

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Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:45 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

High prices at first is a given for any newly adopted technology.

As long as they don't orphan it, you will be fine. I bought an Apple display with only a ADC connector. There are only about a half dozen G4 Macs that can use it, and one being the Cube. I only paid $999.00 for it.

And I thought for consumer grade cameras that CompactFlash was going to be the thing, not SD. I did pick VHS over Beta, while that was the options. But failed by picking Iomega Zip discs, the worst thing to keep your stuff on.

Feel better?

Brent

On Jun 13, 2013, at 7:48 AM, TimeFramePhoto wrote:

While it's great to see new Thunderbolt products trickling into the marketplace, I remain concerned at their continued high prices and relative scarcity. I have to think of Thunderbolt 1 as a very promising experiment that largely failed, and we may be hoping against hope that the Thunderbolt 2 landscape will develop any more quickly or affordably. Of course, SOMEONE needs to push in these new directions, and Apple should be applauded for at least trying...but there's also something to be said for knowing when to fold.

On a related note, XQD memory cards for cameras started coming out around the same time as Thunderbolt. Now, about 18 months later, my Nikon D4 remains the only camera to use them. They're better than the alternatives in almost every way, but the only card reader for them is USB3, which I don't have. So I'm stuck just using the CompactFlash slot in my camera because I still have a couple of "old fashioned" FireWire 800 card readers. A Thunderbolt card reader for XQD cards would seem like a no-brainer, but would probably cost more than any of us could imagine.

Sorry, feeling grumpy today.

Dane

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Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Yes, but TB has been around for 2 years now and still shows no sign of
becoming mainstream. External drives with FireWire + USB 2 quickly became
common, but where are the TB + USB 3 drives? Perhaps FW being adopted for
DV camcorders gave it presence outside the Mac community but there's no
equivalent for TB?

Otto

On 13 June 2013 21:45, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> High prices at first is a given for any newly adopted technology.
>
> As long as they don't orphan it, you will be fine. I bought an Apple
> display with only a ADC connector. There are only about a half dozen G4
> Macs that can use it, and one being the Cube. I only paid $999.00 for it.
>
> And I thought for consumer grade cameras that CompactFlash was going to be
> the thing, not SD. I did pick VHS over Beta, while that was the options.
> But failed by picking Iomega Zip discs, the worst thing to keep your stuff
> on.
>
> Feel better?
>

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Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

I've just hear a tale that OWC, the Other World Computing online sales
company, has been sold to Corel.

I can't find any references to this online.

Is it fact or fiction? Any thoughts?

Denver Dan

p.s. If this were true, I'd be concerned because Corel has a rather bad
reputation for dealing with Macintosh products and software.

Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:28 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Mielko" mastersoundsdjs

Hello all.

I have the need for some guidance. I need help with time machine.

In the past I have done everything I want to do with FreeNAS 8 without any issues. Computer saw drive as an external Time Machine to time capsule.

I now would like to migrate to a mac pro with a hard drive set up as a time machine hard drive.

I have multiple macs ..

Lets call them :

Mac Book
Mac Pro 1
Mac Pro 2

Each is running Mountain Lion

Mac Pro 2 has the destination HD (internal hard drive 2) formatted for TIME MACHINE, and it is called "TIME MACHINE"

TIME MACHINE drive is set with file sharing for me (Admin) and all users. Sharing the whole drive. Read/Write permissions set to yes -read - yes-write for all

Mac Pro 2 has an extra hard drive (1TB) that is intended to be used as a TIME MACHINE back up hard drive.

When I go to back up mac pro 2 to TIME MACHINE - No issues as it is the same computer on separate drive (Drive 1 to drive 2)

SO when I go to create/use TIME MACHINE hard drive on Mac Pro2 from either the macbook or Mac Pro 2
I do the normal thing - select what to backup, select backup drive/volume, etc …

--- I get the timeout error ----

"Time Machine couldn't complete the backup to "Mac Pro Server".
The backup disk is not available.

This is frustrating, as I had it working on FreeNas without issues, a 'fake' version of the time machine enviroment .. but will error on a real setup ..

Any help or comments ?
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