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Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:06 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
You use Pfsense and Untangle UTM on your Mac? Why? How?
Are they OSX compatible? When did anyone see a virus in OSX lately?
> What difference does it make?
>
> > Dane are you on a Mac or a PC?
> >
> > > Pfsense firewall and frequently combine it with
> > > another firewall or UTM (Unified Threat Management) called Untangle. Both
> > > have a firewall and routing but I use Pfsense as the firewall and router
> > > (and QoS) then I put the Untangle box in bridge mode with no routing so
> > > it
> > > can do things like spam & virus filtering, Web content filtering.
> > >
> > > Bottom line is firewall would be nice but a simple natting router is
> > > really a must in my opinion.
Are they OSX compatible? When did anyone see a virus in OSX lately?
> What difference does it make?
>
> > Dane are you on a Mac or a PC?
> >
> > > Pfsense firewall and frequently combine it with
> > > another firewall or UTM (Unified Threat Management) called Untangle. Both
> > > have a firewall and routing but I use Pfsense as the firewall and router
> > > (and QoS) then I put the Untangle box in bridge mode with no routing so
> > > it
> > > can do things like spam & virus filtering, Web content filtering.
> > >
> > > Bottom line is firewall would be nice but a simple natting router is
> > > really a must in my opinion.
Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:05 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
> You use Pfsense and Untangle UTM on your Mac? Why? How?
> Are they OSX compatible? When did anyone see a virus in OSX lately?
>
No .. not on my Mac. Between my mac and the internet. The same place you
need something
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> You use Pfsense and Untangle UTM on your Mac? Why? How?
> Are they OSX compatible? When did anyone see a virus in OSX lately?
>
No .. not on my Mac. Between my mac and the internet. The same place you
need something
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
> Between my mac and the internet. The same place you
> need something
>
If I have a functioning firewall on a Mac, I have Little Snitch telling me anytime anything unknown tries to reach out from my Mac, the lack of any OSX viruses, trojans, etc. Please explain why I need a router? I'm serious.
> need something
>
If I have a functioning firewall on a Mac, I have Little Snitch telling me anytime anything unknown tries to reach out from my Mac, the lack of any OSX viruses, trojans, etc. Please explain why I need a router? I'm serious.
Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Hal, I think maybe we've all finally got this sorted out.
You don't have a router.
You have a plain cable modem and this is why you are seeing the 68 IP
address. The 192.168.x.x IP address range is reserved for a private
network of two or more computers.
It seems you also have only a single Internet device - your Macintosh.
If you wished, you could buy a separate router and connected it to the
Cisco/Linksys Cable Modem and this would be a good idea if you had
several devices that needed IP addresses like networked printers,
several Macintoshes, or, as in my case, a Sonos Digital Music System
that connects to the Internet.
I think everyone who responded assumed that you had a cable
modem/router combination device. This is because what you have is
somewhat rare and very seldom found in the flesh, so to speak.
All of these network and internet devices, modems, cable modems,
routers, WiFi base stations, Ethernet switches, firewall devices, are
designed to be used, if you wish, linked together.
For example, if you had several computers and network printers you
could add an Ethernet Switch to your setup and also add a router to
pass out those pesky 192.168.1.xx IP addresses so each device will have
a unique IP address.
You could even add a separate firewall box to this mix.
Last year I was at a holiday party in DC hosted by someone who is an IT
professional for some major entities in Washington. He's a bit more
security conscious than most people and had a rather wild home system
with Ethernet cable to every room and a central networking and Internet
closet that included a very fancy, major, and expensive firewall "box"
linked to his router/cable modem.
This stuff is often easier to do than to talk about. All the acronyms
and numbers and terms are very daunting when first tackled.
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:10:40 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> Hi, Dan. In SystemPrefs/Security&Privacy, my firewall is ON and has
> been locked for a long time.
>
> Everyone talks about a Router, but I have no router, unless there is
> a router within my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem that I purchased rather
> than pay the cable company.
>
> I receive the internet through Comcast cable, into my Cisco/Lynksis
> Cable Modem, then direct into my iMac. There is no other workstation
> here. I have a printer device and an external HD connected via
> firewire.
>
> What confuses me is everyone's insistence that I have an IP Address
> of 192.xxxxx. In System Preferences/Network/Ethernet/Configure IPv4/
> I selected Using DHCP. I thought this allows Comcast to assign a
> dynamic IP address.
>
> If I click Advanced/Ethernet/TCP/IP/Configure IPv4/Using DCHP, the
> IPx4 address is: 68.53.xxxxxx, I clicked renew my DHCP license to
> update, the number isn't different, it is always 68.xxxxxxxx.
>
> WhatIsMyIP address? shows the same 68.xxxxxxxx number.
>
> Why is 68.xxxx wrong and 192.xxxxx is right?
>
> Still trying to see through the fog.
>
Hal, I think maybe we've all finally got this sorted out.
You don't have a router.
You have a plain cable modem and this is why you are seeing the 68 IP
address. The 192.168.x.x IP address range is reserved for a private
network of two or more computers.
It seems you also have only a single Internet device - your Macintosh.
If you wished, you could buy a separate router and connected it to the
Cisco/Linksys Cable Modem and this would be a good idea if you had
several devices that needed IP addresses like networked printers,
several Macintoshes, or, as in my case, a Sonos Digital Music System
that connects to the Internet.
I think everyone who responded assumed that you had a cable
modem/router combination device. This is because what you have is
somewhat rare and very seldom found in the flesh, so to speak.
All of these network and internet devices, modems, cable modems,
routers, WiFi base stations, Ethernet switches, firewall devices, are
designed to be used, if you wish, linked together.
For example, if you had several computers and network printers you
could add an Ethernet Switch to your setup and also add a router to
pass out those pesky 192.168.1.xx IP addresses so each device will have
a unique IP address.
You could even add a separate firewall box to this mix.
Last year I was at a holiday party in DC hosted by someone who is an IT
professional for some major entities in Washington. He's a bit more
security conscious than most people and had a rather wild home system
with Ethernet cable to every room and a central networking and Internet
closet that included a very fancy, major, and expensive firewall "box"
linked to his router/cable modem.
This stuff is often easier to do than to talk about. All the acronyms
and numbers and terms are very daunting when first tackled.
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:10:40 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> Hi, Dan. In SystemPrefs/
> been locked for a long time.
>
> Everyone talks about a Router, but I have no router, unless there is
> a router within my Cisco/Lynksis Cable Modem that I purchased rather
> than pay the cable company.
>
> I receive the internet through Comcast cable, into my Cisco/Lynksis
> Cable Modem, then direct into my iMac. There is no other workstation
> here. I have a printer device and an external HD connected via
> firewire.
>
> What confuses me is everyone'
> of 192.xxxxx. In System Preferences/
> I selected Using DHCP. I thought this allows Comcast to assign a
> dynamic IP address.
>
> If I click Advanced/Ethernet/
> IPx4 address is: 68.53.xxxxxx, I clicked renew my DHCP license to
> update, the number isn't different, it is always 68.xxxxxxxx.
>
> WhatIsMyIP address? shows the same 68.xxxxxxxx number.
>
> Why is 68.xxxx wrong and 192.xxxxx is right?
>
> Still trying to see through the fog.
>
Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I think Bill is saying that a hardware based firewall is usually more
secure and better than a software based firewall. The firewall in your
Mac's Security panel is software based since it's part of Mac OS X.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:26:13 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
>> you do not have router. I would get one as your computer
>> is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
>>
> So you are saying my firewall being turned on is actually useless?
> That a router would be a working firewall?
I think Bill is saying that a hardware based firewall is usually more
secure and better than a software based firewall. The firewall in your
Mac's Security panel is software based since it's part of Mac OS X.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:26:13 +0000, HAL9000 wrote:
>> you do not have router. I would get one as your computer
>> is essentially sitting directly on the Internet.
>>
> So you are saying my firewall being turned on is actually useless?
> That a router would be a working firewall?
Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:54 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Please explain why I need a router? I'm serious.
Simple - you put to much faith in the tools you have and in your ability to
manage them. Putting your firewall on the device you are defending is not a
good idea.
This is the last I'll say on this - If you feel your solution is sufficient
then you should stick with it in the end the choice is yours.
-Dane
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> Please explain why I need a router? I'm serious.
Simple - you put to much faith in the tools you have and in your ability to
manage them. Putting your firewall on the device you are defending is not a
good idea.
This is the last I'll say on this - If you feel your solution is sufficient
then you should stick with it in the end the choice is yours.
-Dane
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Here's the solution. Twelve square feet (1.11 meters square) of floor
space.
MacStadium POD.
´The MacStadium POD is a pressurized environment allowing the Mac Pro
servers to effortlessly draw in conditioned air from the central
chamber, and expel it thru its unified thermal core."
<http://www.cultofmac.com/232391/you-can-already-turn-the-new-mac-pro-into-a-supercomputer-with-this-server-rack/ >
Denver Dan
Here's the solution. Twelve square feet (1.11 meters square) of floor
space.
MacStadium POD.
´The MacStadium POD is a pressurized environment allowing the Mac Pro
servers to effortlessly draw in conditioned air from the central
chamber, and expel it thru its unified thermal core."
<http://www.cultofma
Denver Dan
Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I'm seeing more and more references to Passbook.
Here's another article on Air France beginning Passbook boarding passes
for iPhone.
Air France rolls out Passbook boarding passes
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/06/18/air-france-rolls-out-passbook-boarding-passes/ >
So the questions is who in MacSupportCentral has actually used Passbook
for something?
Denver Dan
I'm seeing more and more references to Passbook.
Here's another article on Air France beginning Passbook boarding passes
for iPhone.
Air France rolls out Passbook boarding passes
<http://www.idownloa
So the questions is who in MacSupportCentral has actually used Passbook
for something?
Denver Dan
Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill Boulware" boulware0224
My Walgreens card that is about it.
Sent from a mobile device, please ignore any auto corrected or typographical errors.
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 15:19, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> I'm seeing more and more references to Passbook.
>
> Here's another article on Air France beginning Passbook boarding passes
> for iPhone.
>
> Air France rolls out Passbook boarding passes
>
> <http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/06/18/air-france-rolls-out-passbook-boarding-passes/ >
>
> So the questions is who in MacSupportCentral has actually used Passbook
> for something?
>
> Denver Dan
>
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Sent from a mobile device, please ignore any auto corrected or typographical errors.
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 15:19, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
>
> Howdy.
>
> I'm seeing more and more references to Passbook.
>
> Here's another article on Air France beginning Passbook boarding passes
> for iPhone.
>
> Air France rolls out Passbook boarding passes
>
> <http://www.idownloa
>
> So the questions is who in MacSupportCentral has actually used Passbook
> for something?
>
> Denver Dan
>
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave Sherlock" dsherlock.geo
Dan,
I use passbook at Starbucks to pay for my coffee. I am planning to use the United passbook for our boarding passes next month.
I am hoping more places offer passbook apps as they seem to work fine.
Regards, Dave
Sent from my  iPad
On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I'm seeing more and more references to Passbook.
>
> Here's another article on Air France beginning Passbook boarding passes
> for iPhone.
>
> Air France rolls out Passbook boarding passes
>
> <http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/06/18/air-france-rolls-out-passbook-boarding-passes/ >
>
> So the questions is who in MacSupportCentral has actually used Passbook
> for something?
>
> Denver Dan
>
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I use passbook at Starbucks to pay for my coffee. I am planning to use the United passbook for our boarding passes next month.
I am hoping more places offer passbook apps as they seem to work fine.
Regards, Dave
Sent from my  iPad
On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> I'm seeing more and more references to Passbook.
>
> Here's another article on Air France beginning Passbook boarding passes
> for iPhone.
>
> Air France rolls out Passbook boarding passes
>
> <http://www.idownloa
>
> So the questions is who in MacSupportCentral has actually used Passbook
> for something?
>
> Denver Dan
>
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Carol Corley" floridabouvs
Hi John:
I use SecureSafe, which is out of Switzerland. (Sounds safe lol)
I also have iSafe Pro but haven't put anything on it.
SecureSafe allows me to store PW and has note space so I can put something about it. And it syncs to my iPhone and iPads, probably to iMac too, but haven't bothered with that.
Carol
I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
TIA
John
Sent from my iPad 3
I use SecureSafe, which is out of Switzerland. (Sounds safe lol)
I also have iSafe Pro but haven't put anything on it.
SecureSafe allows me to store PW and has note space so I can put something about it. And it syncs to my iPhone and iPads, probably to iMac too, but haven't bothered with that.
Carol
I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
TIA
John
Sent from my iPad 3
Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bob Cook" cookrd1
I use the paid version of LastPass ($1/month). They also have a free
version. I have Windows, Mac and Linux computers, iOS and Android tablets
and phones, and this is the only password manager that keeps everything
glued together, except for 1Password which I used in the past. Passwords
(and other things) don't work nearly as well in iOS as they do on Android,
but that is common to whatever password manager you use on iOS. Note that
although your passwords are cloud-based, even the NAS folks can't get
access to them if you use a decent master password. And, no relying on
iCloud either, which some people say is unreliable (I don't use it at all).
-Bob
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com >wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi John:
> I use SecureSafe, which is out of Switzerland. (Sounds safe lol)
> I also have iSafe Pro but haven't put anything on it.
> SecureSafe allows me to store PW and has note space so I can put something
> about it. And it syncs to my iPhone and iPads, probably to iMac too, but
> haven't bothered with that.
> Carol
>
>
> I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store
> passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
>
> TIA
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPad 3
>
>
>
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version. I have Windows, Mac and Linux computers, iOS and Android tablets
and phones, and this is the only password manager that keeps everything
glued together, except for 1Password which I used in the past. Passwords
(and other things) don't work nearly as well in iOS as they do on Android,
but that is common to whatever password manager you use on iOS. Note that
although your passwords are cloud-based, even the NAS folks can't get
access to them if you use a decent master password. And, no relying on
iCloud either, which some people say is unreliable (I don't use it at all).
-Bob
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Carol Corley <floridabouvs@
> **
>
>
> Hi John:
> I use SecureSafe, which is out of Switzerland. (Sounds safe lol)
> I also have iSafe Pro but haven't put anything on it.
> SecureSafe allows me to store PW and has note space so I can put something
> about it. And it syncs to my iPhone and iPads, probably to iMac too, but
> haven't bothered with that.
> Carol
>
>
> I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store
> passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
>
> TIA
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPad 3
>
>
>
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
You don't want cheap, you want secure.
Most members of the lists I am on suggest 1Password. That is what I will probably go to when I move away from Keeper, which I don't recommend since it is Java based.
Brent
On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:04 AM, ennisart wrote:
Hi,
I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
TIA
John
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Most members of the lists I am on suggest 1Password. That is what I will probably go to when I move away from Keeper, which I don't recommend since it is Java based.
Brent
On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:04 AM, ennisart wrote:
Hi,
I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
TIA
John
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Jowdy Hohn.
Oh, DAMN.
Howdy John.
I bought 1Password for myself about six months ago.
1Password has a Mac OS X application and an iOS app.
You set up a free Dropbox account and put a certain file on Dropbox in
a restricted area. This file is encrypted.
The Dropbox file lets 1Password sync automatically between my
Macintosh, my iPad, and my iPhone.
The 1Password folks say they tried to use iCloud to sync and while it
is possible it also seems to be rather difficult according to them.
1Password has categories for:
Logins
Accounts
Identities
Secure Notes
Software
Wallet
You can keep credit card info (Wallet), Internet logins, bank accounts,
records of Software registration and serial numbers.
1Password has a feature to generate random complex passwords and store
them.
One feature I like is that you can set a complex password that is
required when you launch 1Password but you can also set a short and
simple password. If you use 1Password and then quite the program you
can relaunch it in 10 or 15 minutes and use the short password. This
is convenient when you are converting passwords and accounts from other
programs, Notes, or scrapes of paper!
I use a FileMaker Pro password protected database for passwords,
software registrations and purchases, hardware purchases, serial
numbers, accounts, credit cards, etc., and I've used it for a long time
so it's a bit of a slow process to convert but I'm gradually doing it.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:04:32 +0000, ennisart wrote:
>
> I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store
> passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
>
> TIA
>
> John
Oh, DAMN.
Howdy John.
I bought 1Password for myself about six months ago.
1Password has a Mac OS X application and an iOS app.
You set up a free Dropbox account and put a certain file on Dropbox in
a restricted area. This file is encrypted.
The Dropbox file lets 1Password sync automatically between my
Macintosh, my iPad, and my iPhone.
The 1Password folks say they tried to use iCloud to sync and while it
is possible it also seems to be rather difficult according to them.
1Password has categories for:
Logins
Accounts
Identities
Secure Notes
Software
Wallet
You can keep credit card info (Wallet), Internet logins, bank accounts,
records of Software registration and serial numbers.
1Password has a feature to generate random complex passwords and store
them.
One feature I like is that you can set a complex password that is
required when you launch 1Password but you can also set a short and
simple password. If you use 1Password and then quite the program you
can relaunch it in 10 or 15 minutes and use the short password. This
is convenient when you are converting passwords and accounts from other
programs, Notes, or scrapes of paper!
I use a FileMaker Pro password protected database for passwords,
software registrations and purchases, hardware purchases, serial
numbers, accounts, credit cards, etc., and I've used it for a long time
so it's a bit of a slow process to convert but I'm gradually doing it.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:04:32 +0000, ennisart wrote:
>
> I am looking for a simple, secure, free or inexpensive way to store
> passwords on my iphone. Any suggestions?
>
> TIA
>
> John
Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
On Jun 18, 2013, at 14:31 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> 1Password has a Mac OS X application and an iOS app.
>
> You set up a free Dropbox account and put a certain file on Dropbox in
> a restricted area. This file is encrypted.
>
> The Dropbox file lets 1Password sync automatically between my
> Macintosh, my iPad, and my iPhone.
I have had 1Password on my computer for a long time but have never used the iOS version. Does it work the same as the regular one? Any major differences?
David
> 1Password has a Mac OS X application and an iOS app.
>
> You set up a free Dropbox account and put a certain file on Dropbox in
> a restricted area. This file is encrypted.
>
> The Dropbox file lets 1Password sync automatically between my
> Macintosh, my iPad, and my iPhone.
I have had 1Password on my computer for a long time but have never used the iOS version. Does it work the same as the regular one? Any major differences?
David
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