13 New Messages
Digest #9591
Messages
Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:22 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"RLN37" RLN37
Good advice of course. I should have stated I have tried the companion computers on a third adapter, and
that works fine. So that points to the adapters, Then I tried both suspect adapters on a known-good computer; neither one works. So I'm quite sure the problem is with the adapters. I live far out in the wilds of North Dakota,
far from the nearest Genius Bar. Thought I might run into someone here who has been through this before …..
Baseball Bob
that works fine. So that points to the adapters, Then I tried both suspect adapters on a known-good computer; neither one works. So I'm quite sure the problem is with the adapters. I live far out in the wilds of North Dakota,
far from the nearest Genius Bar. Thought I might run into someone here who has been through this before …..
Baseball Bob
Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
It may not be the electronics that is bad, but the electricity.
Check the plug and wall sockets. Are they bent? Are they making good connections? Is the wall socket in good condition or is it loose? Is the wall socket what an electrician would call half-hot or switched?
Try flexing the cable at both ends. The stress protection at either end could be bad.
We all sometimes over think problems, and forget to check the basics.
Brent
On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:41 PM, RLN37 wrote:
I have Awo apple laptops that have both developed the same problem with their power adapters. Both use the "magsafe" connectors. But that does not seem to be the seat of
the problem. Those connectors are all bright, clean and shiny. And the pins act the way
they are supposed to - not stuck somehow. The problem is that when I plug in an adapter to start battery charging, nothing happens. No light, either green or orange), just nothing.....
Anyone been through this before, and can offer some advice? I am skilled with electronics,
so can open up the adapter if necessary, but thought I would ask first.......
Thank you.
Baseball Bob
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Check the plug and wall sockets. Are they bent? Are they making good connections? Is the wall socket in good condition or is it loose? Is the wall socket what an electrician would call half-hot or switched?
Try flexing the cable at both ends. The stress protection at either end could be bad.
We all sometimes over think problems, and forget to check the basics.
Brent
On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:41 PM, RLN37 wrote:
I have Awo apple laptops that have both developed the same problem with their power adapters. Both use the "magsafe" connectors. But that does not seem to be the seat of
the problem. Those connectors are all bright, clean and shiny. And the pins act the way
they are supposed to - not stuck somehow. The problem is that when I plug in an adapter to start battery charging, nothing happens. No light, either green or orange), just nothing.....
Anyone been through this before, and can offer some advice? I am skilled with electronics,
so can open up the adapter if necessary, but thought I would ask first.......
Thank you.
Baseball Bob
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:22 PM, RLN37 wrote:
> Good advice of course. I should have stated I have tried the companion computers on a third adapter, and
> that works fine. So that points to the adapters, Then I tried both suspect adapters on a known-good computer; neither one works. So I'm quite sure the problem is with the adapters. I live far out in the wilds of North Dakota,
> far from the nearest Genius Bar. Thought I might run into someone here who has been through this before …..
>
> Baseball Bob
Sometimes you can get them pretty cheep on eBay. I think that is the best way. Presumably, if you had a schematic, you could rig up some 3rd party power supply with your cable, but that is probably not worth the hassle.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pete Nalda" lpnalda
I'm wondering the same thing, with my early 2009 model macbook pro. I guess we'll have to wait until fall to see.
On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:16 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
>
> I'm still on 10.7.5, but App Nap, improved multi-screen functions, iBook, Time Coalescing, the other power saving, Compressed Memory are features I most look forward to in that order.
>
> App Nap will take a bit of re-learning old habits on my part. I use two monitors and like to keep the edge of all windows visible. I don't use Mission Control or Spaces, but it looks like these will give the best energy saving for App Nap.
>
> BTW, If you have not stumbled upon it yet, there is an overview of Mavericks at
>
> http://images.apple.com/osx/preview/docs/OSX_Mavericks_Core_Technology_Overview.pdf .
>
> Sadly it does not list the hardware requirements.
>
> Brent
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
Louie P. "Pete" Nalda
http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter @lpnalda
On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:16 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.
> I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
>
> I'm still on 10.7.5, but App Nap, improved multi-screen functions, iBook, Time Coalescing, the other power saving, Compressed Memory are features I most look forward to in that order.
>
> App Nap will take a bit of re-learning old habits on my part. I use two monitors and like to keep the edge of all windows visible. I don't use Mission Control or Spaces, but it looks like these will give the best energy saving for App Nap.
>
> BTW, If you have not stumbled upon it yet, there is an overview of Mavericks at
>
> http://images.
>
> Sadly it does not list the hardware requirements.
>
> Brent
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
Louie P. "Pete" Nalda
http://www.myspace.
http://www.facebook
http://www.linkedin
Twitter @lpnalda
Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
"N.A. Nada" wrote:
I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
I read the first 7 pages and I still don't know what Mavericks is. Nowhere did the author define the term before using it.
Is this the next release of OS X (10.9)? If so, what's the new theme (if not cats)?
Dave
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
I read the first 7 pages and I still don't know what Mavericks is. Nowhere did the author define the term before using it.
Is this the next release of OS X (10.9)? If so, what's the new theme (if not cats)?
Dave
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:59 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says, OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various pages on apple.com.
Yeap, they ran out of big cats for the theme. If you want to figure out the new theme, watch the first part of the keynote. Hint, it is not old TV shows.
Brent
On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Dave C wrote:
"N.A. Nada" wrote:
I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
I read the first 7 pages and I still don't know what Mavericks is. Nowhere did the author define the term before using it.
Is this the next release of OS X (10.9)? If so, what's the new theme (if not cats)?
Dave
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yeap, they ran out of big cats for the theme. If you want to figure out the new theme, watch the first part of the keynote. Hint, it is not old TV shows.
Brent
On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Dave C wrote:
"N.A. Nada" wrote:
I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
I read the first 7 pages and I still don't know what Mavericks is. Nowhere did the author define the term before using it.
Is this the next release of OS X (10.9)? If so, what's the new theme (if not cats)?
Dave
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill Boulware" boulware0224
California ( new theme ) after a failed joke of naming it "Sea Lion"
Sent from a mobile device, please ignore any auto corrected or typographical errors.
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:50, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> "N.A. Nada" wrote:
>
> I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
>
> I read the first 7 pages and I still don't know what Mavericks is. Nowhere did the author define the term before using it.
>
> Is this the next release of OS X (10.9)? If so, what's the new theme (if not cats)?
>
> Dave
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sent from a mobile device, please ignore any auto corrected or typographical errors.
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:50, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.
>
> "N.A. Nada" wrote:
>
> I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
>
> I read the first 7 pages and I still don't know what Mavericks is. Nowhere did the author define the term before using it.
>
> Is this the next release of OS X (10.9)? If so, what's the new theme (if not cats)?
>
> Dave
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bekah" bekalex
And the end of story is that the second tech finally, after a couple more hours (techs at the house from 9:30 AM to 6PM), decided that I'm just a wee tad out of range for the high speed DSL. He advised me to downsize the speed. I called ATT and got that done, saved a bit of money - not a lot - and they did what they do and I'm now getting a lower speed DSL but it seems to come in a bit faster. That was a long tiring weekend!
Bekah
On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
> An ATT tech spent 5+ hours here today trying to resolve the problem - first checking in the house, then outside. It's not my issue - somewhere in the neighborhood there's a bad splice job or something. The supervisor will be here tomorrow and give it a try. The guy today is NOT inexperienced (35 years with ATT) but he just came to an end of his knowledge or ability to see the problem (like when you look in the refrigerator for the ketchup and can't find it but someone else spots it right in front of your nose).
>
> For now I've got the mifi and a G3 iPad so I'm not stranded by any means.
>
> Thank you all,
> Bekah
>
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>> Some filters have 2 outlets. If yours does, be sure to plug into the correct one.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On 10 Jun 2013, at 04:47 AM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
>>
>> We had the filter in on the first try but then the tech told me to take it off. I think I might try it on in the other jacks.
>>
>> Bekah
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Group FAQ:
>> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Bekah
On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal
> An ATT tech spent 5+ hours here today trying to resolve the problem - first checking in the house, then outside. It's not my issue - somewhere in the neighborhood there's a bad splice job or something. The supervisor will be here tomorrow and give it a try. The guy today is NOT inexperienced (35 years with ATT) but he just came to an end of his knowledge or ability to see the problem (like when you look in the refrigerator for the ketchup and can't find it but someone else spots it right in front of your nose).
>
> For now I've got the mifi and a G3 iPad so I'm not stranded by any means.
>
> Thank you all,
> Bekah
>
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.
>
>> Some filters have 2 outlets. If yours does, be sure to plug into the correct one.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On 10 Jun 2013, at 04:47 AM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal
>>
>> We had the filter in on the first try but then the tech told me to take it off. I think I might try it on in the other jacks.
>>
>> Bekah
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------
>>
>> Group FAQ:
>> <http://www.macsuppo
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:34 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Imran Khan" sj.imran
Hi All,
My thoughts is:
1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are in big trouble
3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so no more RAID
5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
I spoke to friend in TV station and almost all of them mentioned the same i have mentioned above.
Regards
Imran
Dubai
On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:36 AM, David Brostoff <davbro@earthlink.net > wrote:
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:26 , David Brostoff <DAVBRO@EARTHLINK.NET > wrote:
>
> > On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> >
> >> I was expecting some of the changes in a new MacPro tower but the form
> >> factor just blows me away.
> >>
> >> <http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/?cid=wwa-us-kwg-mac-aos )
> >
> > Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
> >
> > In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of the best supercomputer of 2000."
> >
> > Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a photo anywhere?
>
> Okay, to answer my own question, according to the article at the following link, in 2000, the IBM ASCI White had a speed of 7.226 teraflops <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_supercomputing#Historical_TOP500_table >.
>
> Another article, which gives the speed as 12.3 teraflops, says, "The processors used are IBM RS6000 SP Power3's which run at 375 MHz. There are 8,192 of these processors in the core compute system. The total amount of RAM is 6Tb. The system is housed in over two hundred cabinets and fills a large room with an area the size of two basket ball courts."
> <http://www.thocp.net/hardware/asci_white.htm >
>
> So, if I have it vaguely right, from roughly two basketball courts to 9.9 x 6.9 in. dia. Quite a differential.
>
> David
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
My thoughts is:
1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are in big trouble
3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so no more RAID
5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
I spoke to friend in TV station and almost all of them mentioned the same i have mentioned above.
Regards
Imran
Dubai
On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:36 AM, David Brostoff <davbro@earthlink.
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:26 , David Brostoff <DAVBRO@EARTHLINK.
>
> > On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> >
> >> I was expecting some of the changes in a new MacPro tower but the form
> >> factor just blows me away.
> >>
> >> <http://www.apple.
> >
> > Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
> >
> > In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of the best supercomputer of 2000."
> >
> > Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a photo anywhere?
>
> Okay, to answer my own question, according to the article at the following link, in 2000, the IBM ASCI White had a speed of 7.226 teraflops <http://en.wikipedia
>
> Another article, which gives the speed as 12.3 teraflops, says, "The processors used are IBM RS6000 SP Power3's which run at 375 MHz. There are 8,192 of these processors in the core compute system. The total amount of RAM is 6Tb. The system is housed in over two hundred cabinets and fills a large room with an area the size of two basket ball courts."
> <http://www.thocp.
>
> So, if I have it vaguely right, from roughly two basketball courts to 9.9 x 6.9 in. dia. Quite a differential.
>
> David
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Imran, with respect, no no no no and no.
I think that perhaps you have missed the point of the speed of
Thunderbolt 2 technology and the speed increases of what's inside this
new tower.
1. You will be able to buy dozens of cheap external hard drives and
connect them. I already do this via eSATA PCIe cards on my old MacPro.
2. Video / Audio editor will get a card cage. This is also called a
PCIe Card Expansion Chassis. These have existed for years but a new
one would be via Thunderbolt 2. It's an external box, connected via
Thunderbolt 2 cable, with slots for PCIe capture cards and other PCIe
cards like my eSATA cards.
3. Fiber storage? Don't know but there may be a Thunderbolt 2 adapter
available??
4. Thunderbolt 2 for RAID should be very easy and very fast. I
already do Mirrored RAID via Ethernet on my old MacPro.
Six Thunderbolt 2 ports on three busses. Apple says this allows for
connection of up to 36 very fast peripherals with each port support up
to 6 devices. At 20 gbps this is faster than the current internal PCIe
card slots/cards and according to a review up to 25 times faster than
FireWire 800.
Sonnet already sells Thunderbolt expansion chassis boxes.
<http://www.sonnettech.com/product/thunderbolt/ >
5. AMD card? I quote from yesterday's MacWorld review of this new
MacPro:
"AMD FirePro workstation GPU with up to 6GB of dedicated VRAM. Apple
says those two GPUs offer up to 7 teraflops of performance¡½compared to
2.7 teraflops for the current Mac Pro¡½and can drive not one, not two,
but three 4K-resolution (3840- by 2160-pixel) displays."
Plus plug in a display to an external graphics card in a card cage.
I think there are several MAJOR speed increases that are being missed
by some folks.
A. PCI Express Flash storage. Greatly faster than current SATA flash
SSDs.
B. RAM upgraded to 4 channel DDR# at 1866 MHz and 60 GB per second
memory band which is twice the current MacPro.
C. New Intel Xeon E5 processors that Apple claims are up to twice as
fast as current MacPro Xeon processors.
D. Flash Storage card is customer removable and upgradable according
to MacWorld review.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:34:33 +0400, Imran Khan wrote:
> My thoughts is:
>
> 1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
>
> 2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are
> in big trouble
>
> 3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
>
> 4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so
> no more RAID
>
> 5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury
> engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
>
> I spoke to friend in TV station and almost all of them mentioned the
> same i have mentioned above.
>
> Regards
> Imran
> Dubai
I think that perhaps you have missed the point of the speed of
Thunderbolt 2 technology and the speed increases of what's inside this
new tower.
1. You will be able to buy dozens of cheap external hard drives and
connect them. I already do this via eSATA PCIe cards on my old MacPro.
2. Video / Audio editor will get a card cage. This is also called a
PCIe Card Expansion Chassis. These have existed for years but a new
one would be via Thunderbolt 2. It's an external box, connected via
Thunderbolt 2 cable, with slots for PCIe capture cards and other PCIe
cards like my eSATA cards.
3. Fiber storage? Don't know but there may be a Thunderbolt 2 adapter
available??
4. Thunderbolt 2 for RAID should be very easy and very fast. I
already do Mirrored RAID via Ethernet on my old MacPro.
Six Thunderbolt 2 ports on three busses. Apple says this allows for
connection of up to 36 very fast peripherals with each port support up
to 6 devices. At 20 gbps this is faster than the current internal PCIe
card slots/cards and according to a review up to 25 times faster than
FireWire 800.
Sonnet already sells Thunderbolt expansion chassis boxes.
<http://www.sonnette
5. AMD card? I quote from yesterday'
MacPro:
"AMD FirePro workstation GPU with up to 6GB of dedicated VRAM. Apple
says those two GPUs offer up to 7 teraflops of performance¡½compared to
2.7 teraflops for the current Mac Pro¡½and can drive not one, not two,
but three 4K-resolution (3840- by 2160-pixel) displays."
Plus plug in a display to an external graphics card in a card cage.
I think there are several MAJOR speed increases that are being missed
by some folks.
A. PCI Express Flash storage. Greatly faster than current SATA flash
SSDs.
B. RAM upgraded to 4 channel DDR# at 1866 MHz and 60 GB per second
memory band which is twice the current MacPro.
C. New Intel Xeon E5 processors that Apple claims are up to twice as
fast as current MacPro Xeon processors.
D. Flash Storage card is customer removable and upgradable according
to MacWorld review.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:34:33 +0400, Imran Khan wrote:
> My thoughts is:
>
> 1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
>
> 2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are
> in big trouble
>
> 3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
>
> 4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so
> no more RAID
>
> 5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury
> engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
>
> I spoke to friend in TV station and almost all of them mentioned the
> same i have mentioned above.
>
> Regards
> Imran
> Dubai
Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Imran Khan" sj.imran
Dear Denver,
I agree with you and i was suggesting the same to my friends.
But to upgrade the default hard drive currently was cheaper , with flash it will be expensive.
As for the AMD card again agree with you but people depending on nvidia's mercury engine and cuda calculation will have trouble.
by RAID i meant RAID 5 in current MacPro.
Anyways certain things have to be given up to keep up with technology.
Regards
Imran
On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Imran, with respect, no no no no and no.
>
> I think that perhaps you have missed the point of the speed of
> Thunderbolt 2 technology and the speed increases of what's inside this
> new tower.
>
> 1. You will be able to buy dozens of cheap external hard drives and
> connect them. I already do this via eSATA PCIe cards on my old MacPro.
>
> 2. Video / Audio editor will get a card cage. This is also called a
> PCIe Card Expansion Chassis. These have existed for years but a new
> one would be via Thunderbolt 2. It's an external box, connected via
> Thunderbolt 2 cable, with slots for PCIe capture cards and other PCIe
> cards like my eSATA cards.
>
> 3. Fiber storage? Don't know but there may be a Thunderbolt 2 adapter
> available??
>
> 4. Thunderbolt 2 for RAID should be very easy and very fast. I
> already do Mirrored RAID via Ethernet on my old MacPro.
>
> Six Thunderbolt 2 ports on three busses. Apple says this allows for
> connection of up to 36 very fast peripherals with each port support up
> to 6 devices. At 20 gbps this is faster than the current internal PCIe
> card slots/cards and according to a review up to 25 times faster than
> FireWire 800.
>
> Sonnet already sells Thunderbolt expansion chassis boxes.
>
> <http://www.sonnettech.com/product/thunderbolt/ >
>
> 5. AMD card? I quote from yesterday's MacWorld review of this new
> MacPro:
>
> "AMD FirePro workstation GPU with up to 6GB of dedicated VRAM. Apple
> says those two GPUs offer up to 7 teraflops of performance—compared to
> 2.7 teraflops for the current Mac Pro—and can drive not one, not two,
> but three 4K-resolution (3840- by 2160-pixel) displays."
>
> Plus plug in a display to an external graphics card in a card cage.
>
> I think there are several MAJOR speed increases that are being missed
> by some folks.
>
> A. PCI Express Flash storage. Greatly faster than current SATA flash
> SSDs.
>
> B. RAM upgraded to 4 channel DDR# at 1866 MHz and 60 GB per second
> memory band which is twice the current MacPro.
>
> C. New Intel Xeon E5 processors that Apple claims are up to twice as
> fast as current MacPro Xeon processors.
>
> D. Flash Storage card is customer removable and upgradable according
> to MacWorld review.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:34:33 +0400, Imran Khan wrote:
> > My thoughts is:
> >
> > 1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
> >
> > 2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are
> > in big trouble
> >
> > 3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
> >
> > 4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so
> > no more RAID
> >
> > 5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury
> > engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
> >
> > I spoke to friend in TV station and almost all of them mentioned the
> > same i have mentioned above.
> >
> > Regards
> > Imran
> > Dubai
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I agree with you and i was suggesting the same to my friends.
But to upgrade the default hard drive currently was cheaper , with flash it will be expensive.
As for the AMD card again agree with you but people depending on nvidia's mercury engine and cuda calculation will have trouble.
by RAID i meant RAID 5 in current MacPro.
Anyways certain things have to be given up to keep up with technology.
Regards
Imran
On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Imran, with respect, no no no no and no.
>
> I think that perhaps you have missed the point of the speed of
> Thunderbolt 2 technology and the speed increases of what's inside this
> new tower.
>
> 1. You will be able to buy dozens of cheap external hard drives and
> connect them. I already do this via eSATA PCIe cards on my old MacPro.
>
> 2. Video / Audio editor will get a card cage. This is also called a
> PCIe Card Expansion Chassis. These have existed for years but a new
> one would be via Thunderbolt 2. It's an external box, connected via
> Thunderbolt 2 cable, with slots for PCIe capture cards and other PCIe
> cards like my eSATA cards.
>
> 3. Fiber storage? Don't know but there may be a Thunderbolt 2 adapter
> available??
>
> 4. Thunderbolt 2 for RAID should be very easy and very fast. I
> already do Mirrored RAID via Ethernet on my old MacPro.
>
> Six Thunderbolt 2 ports on three busses. Apple says this allows for
> connection of up to 36 very fast peripherals with each port support up
> to 6 devices. At 20 gbps this is faster than the current internal PCIe
> card slots/cards and according to a review up to 25 times faster than
> FireWire 800.
>
> Sonnet already sells Thunderbolt expansion chassis boxes.
>
> <http://www.sonnette
>
> 5. AMD card? I quote from yesterday'
> MacPro:
>
> "AMD FirePro workstation GPU with up to 6GB of dedicated VRAM. Apple
> says those two GPUs offer up to 7 teraflops of performance—compared to
> 2.7 teraflops for the current Mac Pro—and can drive not one, not two,
> but three 4K-resolution (3840- by 2160-pixel) displays."
>
> Plus plug in a display to an external graphics card in a card cage.
>
> I think there are several MAJOR speed increases that are being missed
> by some folks.
>
> A. PCI Express Flash storage. Greatly faster than current SATA flash
> SSDs.
>
> B. RAM upgraded to 4 channel DDR# at 1866 MHz and 60 GB per second
> memory band which is twice the current MacPro.
>
> C. New Intel Xeon E5 processors that Apple claims are up to twice as
> fast as current MacPro Xeon processors.
>
> D. Flash Storage card is customer removable and upgradable according
> to MacWorld review.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:34:33 +0400, Imran Khan wrote:
> > My thoughts is:
> >
> > 1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
> >
> > 2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are
> > in big trouble
> >
> > 3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
> >
> > 4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so
> > no more RAID
> >
> > 5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury
> > engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
> >
> > I spoke to friend in TV station and almost all of them mentioned the
> > same i have mentioned above.
> >
> > Regards
> > Imran
> > Dubai
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:49 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ian Gillis" ianjgillis
On 31 May 2013 16:16, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@gmail.com > wrote:
> Thanks, Randy.
> I've decided to avoid buying drivers that might not work, junk the old
> webcam and get a new one with an integrated microphone
Here's an update on my webcam situation:
I bought the Logitech C615 webcam, which turned out to be
plug-and-play compatible with Mountain Lion, then added the Mactaris
Webcam Settings software from the App store.
It works with all the webcam-related software, apart from some audio
garbling in Photo Booth.
I've uploaded a thirty-second video of my first impressions at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gaFjljCkZc
regards,
Ian
---
 Ian Gillis
_______________________
Mac Mini 2010 OS 10.8.3
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz
4GB RAM 500GB HD
Samsung Syncmaster 226BW
2 TB ext HD
iPad 1 16GB WiFi only iOS 5.1
> Thanks, Randy.
> I've decided to avoid buying drivers that might not work, junk the old
> webcam and get a new one with an integrated microphone
Here's an update on my webcam situation:
I bought the Logitech C615 webcam, which turned out to be
plug-and-play compatible with Mountain Lion, then added the Mactaris
Webcam Settings software from the App store.
It works with all the webcam-related software, apart from some audio
garbling in Photo Booth.
I've uploaded a thirty-second video of my first impressions at
http://www.youtube.
regards,
Ian
---
 Ian Gillis
____________
Mac Mini 2010 OS 10.8.3
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz
4GB RAM 500GB HD
Samsung Syncmaster 226BW
2 TB ext HD
iPad 1 16GB WiFi only iOS 5.1
Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Budd T" n7eoj
Now M$ Office apps all complain has to be reinstalled.
I had to buy M$Office 2011 online when OSX upgrade quarantined all 32bit apps.
I do not see an installer and am afraid I will be gouged again if I go to the M$ site to reinstall.
Has anyone had to do this?
Without additional cost to M$?
I had to buy M$Office 2011 online when OSX upgrade quarantined all 32bit apps.
I do not see an installer and am afraid I will be gouged again if I go to the M$ site to reinstall.
Has anyone had to do this?
Without additional cost to M$?
GROUP FOOTER MESSAGE
