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Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill Boulware" boulware0224
I have never owned a Mac Pro but the design alone makes me think I may!
I have a photo from a friend who is at WWDC, I'll get it off of my phone
when it finishes installing something that stares iOS and ends with 7 beta
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Howdy.
>
> OF COURSE he's in dire need of an update. Me, too!
>
> It's all explained by the T-Shirt I recently couldn't resist buying at
> my nearby Micro Center store.
>
> T-Shirt says in big letters . . . .
>
> MY PROCESSOR IS FASTER THAN YOURS
>
> Yeaaaaaa!
>
> Denver Dan
>
> p.s. Be happy he doesn't want a new French hand made Bugatti :-)
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:30:47 -0400, Jennifer Roane wrote:
> > Great
> > ..
> >
> > Now my husband has seen this and is saying that he's in dire need of
> > an update! :)
> > I wonder when we'll know more about pricing.
> >
> > Jennifer
>
>
>
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I have a photo from a friend who is at WWDC, I'll get it off of my phone
when it finishes installing something that stares iOS and ends with 7 beta
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> **
>
>
> Howdy.
>
> OF COURSE he's in dire need of an update. Me, too!
>
> It's all explained by the T-Shirt I recently couldn't resist buying at
> my nearby Micro Center store.
>
> T-Shirt says in big letters . . . .
>
> MY PROCESSOR IS FASTER THAN YOURS
>
> Yeaaaaaa!
>
> Denver Dan
>
> p.s. Be happy he doesn't want a new French hand made Bugatti :-)
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:30:47 -0400, Jennifer Roane wrote:
> > Great
> > ..
> >
> > Now my husband has seen this and is saying that he's in dire need of
> > an update! :)
> > I wonder when we'll know more about pricing.
> >
> > Jennifer
>
>
>
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler
here's a pic of a Cray super computer..
The outside components are covered with benches an average size adult could
sit upon while awaiting results.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:26 PM, David Brostoff <davbro@earthlink.net >wrote:
> **
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
>
> > I was expecting some of the changes in a new MacPro tower but the form
> > factor just blows me away.
> >
> > <http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/?cid=wwa-us-kwg-mac-aos )
>
> Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter
> is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
>
> In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The
> new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of
> the best supercomputer of 2000."
>
> Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a
> photo anywhere?
>
> David
>
>
>
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The outside components are covered with benches an average size adult could
sit upon while awaiting results.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:26 PM, David Brostoff <davbro@earthlink.
> **
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
>
> > I was expecting some of the changes in a new MacPro tower but the form
> > factor just blows me away.
> >
> > <http://www.apple.
>
> Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter
> is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
>
> In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The
> new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of
> the best supercomputer of 2000."
>
> Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a
> photo anywhere?
>
> David
>
>
>
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"DaveC" davec2468
On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Jon Kreisler wrote:
> here's a pic of a Cray super computer..
???
> here's a pic of a Cray super computer..
???
Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:26 , David Brostoff <DAVBRO@EARTHLINK.NET > wrote:
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
>
>> I was expecting some of the changes in a new MacPro tower but the form
>> factor just blows me away.
>>
>> <http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/?cid=wwa-us-kwg-mac-aos )
>
> Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
>
> In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of the best supercomputer of 2000."
>
> Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a photo anywhere?
Okay, to answer my own question, according to the article at the following link, in 2000, the IBM ASCI White had a speed of 7.226 teraflops <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_supercomputing#Historical_TOP500_table >.
Another article, which gives the speed as 12.3 teraflops, says, "The processors used are IBM RS6000 SP Power3's which run at 375 MHz. There are 8,192 of these processors in the core compute system. The total amount of RAM is 6Tb. The system is housed in over two hundred cabinets and fills a large room with an area the size of two basket ball courts."
<http://www.thocp.net/hardware/asci_white.htm >
So, if I have it vaguely right, from roughly two basketball courts to 9.9 x 6.9 in. dia. Quite a differential.
David
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
>
>> I was expecting some of the changes in a new MacPro tower but the form
>> factor just blows me away.
>>
>> <http://www.apple.
>
> Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
>
> In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of the best supercomputer of 2000."
>
> Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a photo anywhere?
Okay, to answer my own question, according to the article at the following link, in 2000, the IBM ASCI White had a speed of 7.226 teraflops <http://en.wikipedia
Another article, which gives the speed as 12.3 teraflops, says, "The processors used are IBM RS6000 SP Power3's which run at 375 MHz. There are 8,192 of these processors in the core compute system. The total amount of RAM is 6Tb. The system is housed in over two hundred cabinets and fills a large room with an area the size of two basket ball courts."
<http://www.thocp.
So, if I have it vaguely right, from roughly two basketball courts to 9.9 x 6.9 in. dia. Quite a differential.
David
Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 10 June 2013 23:26, David Brostoff <davbro@earthlink.net > wrote:
>
> Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter
> is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
>
> In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The
> new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of
> the best supercomputer of 2000."
>
> Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a
> photo anywhere?
>
> Massively parallel. 512 x RS/6000 SP.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCI_White >
<asci white supercomputer<http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=asci+white+supercomputer&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=6mG2UeqGFMe5hAeZkoCgCA&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1584&bih=883 >
>
Otto
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>
> Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter
> is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
>
> In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The
> new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of
> the best supercomputer of 2000."
>
> Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a
> photo anywhere?
>
> Massively parallel. 512 x RS/6000 SP.
<http://en.wikipedia
<asci white supercomputer<http://www.google.
>
Otto
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jennifer Roane" jenalr
I like your shirt! Ha!
No joke….there will be no French handmade Bugatti's in our future.
Jennifer
On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> OF COURSE he's in dire need of an update. Me, too!
>
> It's all explained by the T-Shirt I recently couldn't resist buying at
> my nearby Micro Center store.
>
> T-Shirt says in big letters . . . .
>
> MY PROCESSOR IS FASTER THAN YOURS
>
> Yeaaaaaa!
>
> Denver Dan
>
> p.s. Be happy he doesn't want a new French hand made Bugatti :-)
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:30:47 -0400, Jennifer Roane wrote:
> > Great
> > ..
> >
> > Now my husband has seen this and is saying that he's in dire need of
> > an update! :)
> > I wonder when we'll know more about pricing.
> >
> > Jennifer
>
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No joke….there will be no French handmade Bugatti'
Jennifer
On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> OF COURSE he's in dire need of an update. Me, too!
>
> It's all explained by the T-Shirt I recently couldn't resist buying at
> my nearby Micro Center store.
>
> T-Shirt says in big letters . . . .
>
> MY PROCESSOR IS FASTER THAN YOURS
>
> Yeaaaaaa!
>
> Denver Dan
>
> p.s. Be happy he doesn't want a new French hand made Bugatti :-)
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:30:47 -0400, Jennifer Roane wrote:
> > Great
> > ..
> >
> > Now my husband has seen this and is saying that he's in dire need of
> > an update! :)
> > I wonder when we'll know more about pricing.
> >
> > Jennifer
>
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Yeap! The have basicly taken that IBM ASCI White and stuffed it into a case the size of a Mac G4 Cube.
And only in about 12 - 13 years. That is a bigger technology advancement than either parents or grandparents saw in their entire life. Possibly more than both.
My dad went from telegraph and crystal radios, to digital pagers and the beginnings of cellular phones. My grandfather went from blacksmithing to the beginning of color TV.
Brent
On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:36 PM, David Brostoff wrote:
On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:26 , David Brostoff <DAVBRO@EARTHLINK.NET > wrote:
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
>
>> I was expecting some of the changes in a new MacPro tower but the form
>> factor just blows me away.
>>
>> <http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/?cid=wwa-us-kwg-mac-aos )
>
> Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
>
> In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of the best supercomputer of 2000."
>
> Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a photo anywhere?
Okay, to answer my own question, according to the article at the following link, in 2000, the IBM ASCI White had a speed of 7.226 teraflops <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_supercomputing#Historical_TOP500_table >.
Another article, which gives the speed as 12.3 teraflops, says, "The processors used are IBM RS6000 SP Power3's which run at 375 MHz. There are 8,192 of these processors in the core compute system. The total amount of RAM is 6Tb. The system is housed in over two hundred cabinets and fills a large room with an area the size of two basket ball courts."
<http://www.thocp.net/hardware/asci_white.htm >
So, if I have it vaguely right, from roughly two basketball courts to 9.9 x 6.9 in. dia. Quite a differential.
David
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And only in about 12 - 13 years. That is a bigger technology advancement than either parents or grandparents saw in their entire life. Possibly more than both.
My dad went from telegraph and crystal radios, to digital pagers and the beginnings of cellular phones. My grandfather went from blacksmithing to the beginning of color TV.
Brent
On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:36 PM, David Brostoff wrote:
On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:26 , David Brostoff <DAVBRO@EARTHLINK.
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
>
>> I was expecting some of the changes in a new MacPro tower but the form
>> factor just blows me away.
>>
>> <http://www.apple.
>
> Yes--I was struck by that too. 9.9 inches tall and 6.6 inches in diameter is incredibly small for this amount of computing power.
>
> In an earlier thread ("Petabytes to measure data"), Jim Saklad said, "The new Mac Pro announced today can do 7 TeraFLOPs. Which is about the speed of the best supercomputer of 2000."
>
> Anyone know what the form factor for such a supercomputer was? Is there a photo anywhere?
Okay, to answer my own question, according to the article at the following link, in 2000, the IBM ASCI White had a speed of 7.226 teraflops <http://en.wikipedia
Another article, which gives the speed as 12.3 teraflops, says, "The processors used are IBM RS6000 SP Power3's which run at 375 MHz. There are 8,192 of these processors in the core compute system. The total amount of RAM is 6Tb. The system is housed in over two hundred cabinets and fills a large room with an area the size of two basket ball courts."
<http://www.thocp.
So, if I have it vaguely right, from roughly two basketball courts to 9.9 x 6.9 in. dia. Quite a differential.
David
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 10 June 2013 22:46, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Depends on which Mac G3 model you get.
>
> Some G3 models may have had a VGA port but it depends.
>
> There are VGA to Apple video adapter plugs available still for vintage
> G3s but you may have to do some serious internet fishing to find one.
> I have one or two in a box somewhere.
>
> Why on earth are you getting a G3? Want to take it apart to see what's
> inside?
>
> A G3 is about 5 generations out of date and can not run any current
> software or system software.
>
Perhaps to run some ancient app on some ancient data that can't be run on
anything newer? Or just nostalgia?
Otto
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> Howdy.
>
> Depends on which Mac G3 model you get.
>
> Some G3 models may have had a VGA port but it depends.
>
> There are VGA to Apple video adapter plugs available still for vintage
> G3s but you may have to do some serious internet fishing to find one.
> I have one or two in a box somewhere.
>
> Why on earth are you getting a G3? Want to take it apart to see what's
> inside?
>
> A G3 is about 5 generations out of date and can not run any current
> software or system software.
>
Perhaps to run some ancient app on some ancient data that can't be run on
anything newer? Or just nostalgia?
Otto
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Mike" leicamike2006
I`m getting a Tango drum scanner and it comes with the G3 to run it. The scanner was made in 1997.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Depends on which Mac G3 model you get.
>
> Some G3 models may have had a VGA port but it depends.
>
> There are VGA to Apple video adapter plugs available still for vintage
> G3s but you may have to do some serious internet fishing to find one.
> I have one or two in a box somewhere.
>
> Why on earth are you getting a G3? Want to take it apart to see what's
> inside?
>
> A G3 is about 5 generations out of date and can not run any current
> software or system software.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:41:52 +0000, Mike wrote:
> > I will be getting a Mac G-3 computer and I want to use my current
> > monitor that I use with my PC. Do I need an adapter or new cable?
> > Mike
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Howdy.
>
> Depends on which Mac G3 model you get.
>
> Some G3 models may have had a VGA port but it depends.
>
> There are VGA to Apple video adapter plugs available still for vintage
> G3s but you may have to do some serious internet fishing to find one.
> I have one or two in a box somewhere.
>
> Why on earth are you getting a G3? Want to take it apart to see what's
> inside?
>
> A G3 is about 5 generations out of date and can not run any current
> software or system software.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:41:52 +0000, Mike wrote:
> > I will be getting a Mac G-3 computer and I want to use my current
> > monitor that I use with my PC. Do I need an adapter or new cable?
> > Mike
>
Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Hey, congratulations, I remember you bringing up the scanner before. Or at least I assume it was you. High end professional scanner (& color separator?) at it's time. I am not in the industry, but have been around it a little. I don't even have a clue at what is available for the old equipment.
If you luck out the Power Mac G3 (Blue and White) came with a single VGA connection. If you are not so lucky, the Power Mac G3 "pizza box", Minitower, and All-in-One had a DB-15 connection.
If you have the DB-15, start scrounging now for the adapter to VGA, on line and locally. I think it will be a rare find now.
Those operated on Mac OS 8.0 to Mac OS X 10.2.8 for the three, and Mac OS 8.5.1 to Mac OS X 10.24.11 for the Blue and White. If you are getting one of the three, I would find out what OS's it will work under and maybe consider getting a G4 if the adapter is too elusive. Either way, if this is going to be business critical, I would definitely start looking for a back up Mac. You should be able to find a G3 or G4 cheap.
Either way, try to get the discs for the OS and the software for the scanner, incase you have to do a reinstall, or have to move to another Mac. Remember that in OS 9 and before, you often could copy the sections and components of an app and copy and past them into another system to install them. Make copies first, or at latest as soon as you have the scanner up and running. Then I would do a web search for the final upgrade of the software
**** Get any user and password or registration pin for the scanner software!!! ****
The connector and OS info comes from MacTracker. Please donate to MacTracker to keep it around. We almost lost it once.
Brent
On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Mike wrote:
I`m getting a Tango drum scanner and it comes with the G3 to run it. The scanner was made in 1997.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Depends on which Mac G3 model you get.
>
> Some G3 models may have had a VGA port but it depends.
>
> There are VGA to Apple video adapter plugs available still for vintage
> G3s but you may have to do some serious internet fishing to find one.
> I have one or two in a box somewhere.
>
> Why on earth are you getting a G3? Want to take it apart to see what's
> inside?
>
> A G3 is about 5 generations out of date and can not run any current
> software or system software.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:41:52 +0000, Mike wrote:
> > I will be getting a Mac G-3 computer and I want to use my current
> > monitor that I use with my PC. Do I need an adapter or new cable?
> > Mike
>
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If you luck out the Power Mac G3 (Blue and White) came with a single VGA connection. If you are not so lucky, the Power Mac G3 "pizza box", Minitower, and All-in-One had a DB-15 connection.
If you have the DB-15, start scrounging now for the adapter to VGA, on line and locally. I think it will be a rare find now.
Those operated on Mac OS 8.0 to Mac OS X 10.2.8 for the three, and Mac OS 8.5.1 to Mac OS X 10.24.11 for the Blue and White. If you are getting one of the three, I would find out what OS's it will work under and maybe consider getting a G4 if the adapter is too elusive. Either way, if this is going to be business critical, I would definitely start looking for a back up Mac. You should be able to find a G3 or G4 cheap.
Either way, try to get the discs for the OS and the software for the scanner, incase you have to do a reinstall, or have to move to another Mac. Remember that in OS 9 and before, you often could copy the sections and components of an app and copy and past them into another system to install them. Make copies first, or at latest as soon as you have the scanner up and running. Then I would do a web search for the final upgrade of the software
**** Get any user and password or registration pin for the scanner software!!! ****
The connector and OS info comes from MacTracker. Please donate to MacTracker to keep it around. We almost lost it once.
Brent
On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Mike wrote:
I`m getting a Tango drum scanner and it comes with the G3 to run it. The scanner was made in 1997.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Howdy.
>
> Depends on which Mac G3 model you get.
>
> Some G3 models may have had a VGA port but it depends.
>
> There are VGA to Apple video adapter plugs available still for vintage
> G3s but you may have to do some serious internet fishing to find one.
> I have one or two in a box somewhere.
>
> Why on earth are you getting a G3? Want to take it apart to see what's
> inside?
>
> A G3 is about 5 generations out of date and can not run any current
> software or system software.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:41:52 +0000, Mike wrote:
> > I will be getting a Mac G-3 computer and I want to use my current
> > monitor that I use with my PC. Do I need an adapter or new cable?
> > Mike
>
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
(OT)
I see that Cray has come back to the top. I had no idea.
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_supercomputing#Historical_TOP500_table
>
Otto
On 10 June 2013 22:51, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@gmail.com > wrote:
> Ah, the Cray Y-MP...
> That brings back memories, or should I say nightmares...
>
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I see that Cray has come back to the top. I had no idea.
<
http://en.wikipedia
>
Otto
On 10 June 2013 22:51, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@
> Ah, the Cray Y-MP...
> That brings back memories, or should I say nightmares..
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Why not try a speed test comparing USB and ethernet?
Otto
On 10 June 2013 23:44, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@sympatico.ca > wrote:
> Hello
>
> Just acquired a 1.5 terabyte drive (Lacie D2 Network). It's a gigabit
> and/or USB2... planning to hook it up as my Time Machine for my tower.
> The big question here is whether PRACTICALLY I should connect it via
> USB (it has its own power block) or via Ethernet. I run cat 5e cabling
> and have a gigabit switch. Looking up theoretical speeds online suggests
> that ethernet should be considerably faster, BUT the NAS network CPU
> (and software to make this drive accessible on the network) within the
> drive itself may not be as fast.
>
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Otto
On 10 June 2013 23:44, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@sympatico.
> Hello
>
> Just acquired a 1.5 terabyte drive (Lacie D2 Network). It's a gigabit
> and/or USB2... planning to hook it up as my Time Machine for my tower.
> The big question here is whether PRACTICALLY I should connect it via
> USB (it has its own power block) or via Ethernet. I run cat 5e cabling
> and have a gigabit switch. Looking up theoretical speeds online suggests
> that ethernet should be considerably faster, BUT the NAS network CPU
> (and software to make this drive accessible on the network) within the
> drive itself may not be as fast.
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:16 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
I'm still on 10.7.5, but App Nap, improved multi-screen functions, iBook, Time Coalescing, the other power saving, Compressed Memory are features I most look forward to in that order.
App Nap will take a bit of re-learning old habits on my part. I use two monitors and like to keep the edge of all windows visible. I don't use Mission Control or Spaces, but it looks like these will give the best energy saving for App Nap.
BTW, If you have not stumbled upon it yet, there is an overview of Mavericks at
http://images.apple.com/osx/preview/docs/OSX_Mavericks_Core_Technology_Overview.pdf .
Sadly it does not list the hardware requirements.
Brent
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I'm still on 10.7.5, but App Nap, improved multi-screen functions, iBook, Time Coalescing, the other power saving, Compressed Memory are features I most look forward to in that order.
App Nap will take a bit of re-learning old habits on my part. I use two monitors and like to keep the edge of all windows visible. I don't use Mission Control or Spaces, but it looks like these will give the best energy saving for App Nap.
BTW, If you have not stumbled upon it yet, there is an overview of Mavericks at
http://images.
Sadly it does not list the hardware requirements.
Brent
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"RLN37" RLN37
I have Awo apple laptops that have both developed the same problem with their power adapters. Both use the "magsafe" connectors. But that does not seem to be the seat of
the problem. Those connectors are all bright, clean and shiny. And the pins act the way
they are supposed to - not stuck somehow. The problem is that when I plug in an adapter to start battery charging, nothing happens. No light, either green or orange), just nothing.....
Anyone been through this before, and can offer some advice? I am skilled with electronics,
so can open up the adapter if necessary, but thought I would ask first.......
Thank you.
Baseball Bob
the problem. Those connectors are all bright, clean and shiny. And the pins act the way
they are supposed to - not stuck somehow. The problem is that when I plug in an adapter to start battery charging, nothing happens. No light, either green or orange), just nothing.....
Anyone been through this before, and can offer some advice? I am skilled with electronics,
so can open up the adapter if necessary, but thought I would ask first.......
Thank you.
Baseball Bob
Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:41 PM, RLN37 wrote:
> I have Awo apple laptops that have both developed the same problem with their power adapters. Both use the "magsafe" connectors. But that does not seem to be the seat of
> the problem. Those connectors are all bright, clean and shiny. And the pins act the way
> they are supposed to - not stuck somehow. The problem is that when I plug in an adapter to start battery charging, nothing happens. No light, either green or orange), just nothing.....
> Anyone been through this before, and can offer some advice? I am skilled with electronics,
> so can open up the adapter if necessary, but thought I would ask first.......
>
> Thank you.
> Baseball Bob
You have either two bad computers or two bad adapters. The obvious answer is to get a third of either and see if that works. Will your computers work with a known-good adapter? Will your adapters work with a known-good computer. If there is a nearby Apple Store you should take all four things to their genius bar and let them take a peek. If none is near enough then if you know someone else who has an Intel Mac laptop that works try with him.
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Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
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