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Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
"Mavericks" is the name of the new Mac OS X 10.9 system.
Apparently at the WWDC one Apple exec on stage muttered something about
they were running out of good cat names and Mac OS X 10.9 Sea Lion just
didn't quite fit.
Bark! Bark!
Late last night I read a very very snarky article this morning about
California place names being used but now can't find it for a link.
Apple said the new nicknames would be for places in California that had
been significant to the life of Apple.
Mavericks is a surfing beach in Northern California near Half Moon Bay.
Mavericks, to me, sounds a lot better than:
Hot Coffee, Mississippi.
Loafers Glory, North Carolina.
Boring, Oregon.
Condemned Bar, California.
Cranky Corner, Louisiana.
Greasy, Oklahoma.
Lick Skillet, Tennessee.
Do Stop, Kentucky.
Gobbler's Knob, Pennsylvania.
Slumgullion Pass, Colorado.
Great Dismal Swamp, North Carolina.
With equal time for our UK friends:
Llanfairpwllgwyngyll, Wales.
Shitlingthorpe, Yorkshire (is this a REAL place? Time to change the
name)
And equal time to our Canadian friends:
Balls Falls, Ontario.
And we probably shouldn't even mention Australia but I can't resist:
Bong Bong, NSW.
And worst of all, at lest if you speak English is, I kid you not:
Fucking, Austria. (Yes, it really is a town)
Denver Dan
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Dave C wrote:
> "N.A. Nada" wrote:
>
> I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the
> stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
>
> I read the first 7 pages and I still don't know what Mavericks is.
> Nowhere did the author define the term before using it.
>
> Is this the next release of OS X (10.9)? If so, what's the new theme
> (if not cats)?
>
> Dave
"Mavericks&quo
Apparently at the WWDC one Apple exec on stage muttered something about
they were running out of good cat names and Mac OS X 10.9 Sea Lion just
didn't quite fit.
Bark! Bark!
Late last night I read a very very snarky article this morning about
California place names being used but now can't find it for a link.
Apple said the new nicknames would be for places in California that had
been significant to the life of Apple.
Mavericks is a surfing beach in Northern California near Half Moon Bay.
Mavericks, to me, sounds a lot better than:
Hot Coffee, Mississippi.
Loafers Glory, North Carolina.
Boring, Oregon.
Condemned Bar, California.
Cranky Corner, Louisiana.
Greasy, Oklahoma.
Lick Skillet, Tennessee.
Do Stop, Kentucky.
Gobbler'
Slumgullion Pass, Colorado.
Great Dismal Swamp, North Carolina.
With equal time for our UK friends:
Llanfairpwllgwyngyl
Shitlingthorpe, Yorkshire (is this a REAL place? Time to change the
name)
And equal time to our Canadian friends:
Balls Falls, Ontario.
And we probably shouldn'
Bong Bong, NSW.
And worst of all, at lest if you speak English is, I kid you not:
Fucking, Austria. (Yes, it really is a town)
Denver Dan
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Dave C wrote:
> "N.A. Nada" wrote:
>
> I look forward to Mavericks. I just hope my early 2008 MBP has the
> stuff it takes to upgrade to it.
>
> I read the first 7 pages and I still don't know what Mavericks is.
> Nowhere did the author define the term before using it.
>
> Is this the next release of OS X (10.9)? If so, what's the new theme
> (if not cats)?
>
> Dave
Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
I still like Mac OS X 10.9 Maine Coon Cat.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:59:37 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says,
> OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various
> pages on apple.com.
>
> Yeap, they ran out of big cats for the theme. If you want to figure
> out the new theme, watch the first part of the keynote. Hint, it is
> not old TV shows.
>
> Brent
Denver Dan
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:59:37 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says,
> OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various
> pages on apple.com.
>
> Yeap, they ran out of big cats for the theme. If you want to figure
> out the new theme, watch the first part of the keynote. Hint, it is
> not old TV shows.
>
> Brent
Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
That's a pretty thin reference... How about something less obtuse: "Introducing Mavericks, the new release of OS X"?
And I saw no prerequsite of watching the keynote prior to reading the document in question...
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 10 Jun 2013, at 11:59 PM, "N.A. Nada" wrote:
Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says, OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various pages on apple.com.
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And I saw no prerequsite of watching the keynote prior to reading the document in question...
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 10 Jun 2013, at 11:59 PM, "N.A. Nada" wrote:
Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says, OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various pages on apple.com.
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
And Ocelot:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocelot
Dave
Sent from my iPod
On 11 Jun 2013, at 07:48 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
I still like Mac OS X 10.9 Maine Coon Cat.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:59:37 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says,
OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various
pages on apple.com.
Yeap, they ran out of big cats for the theme. If you want to figure
out the new theme, watch the first part of the keynote. Hint, it is
not old TV shows.
Brent
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On 11 Jun 2013, at 07:48 AM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
I still like Mac OS X 10.9 Maine Coon Cat.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:59:37 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says,
OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various
pages on apple.com.
Yeap, they ran out of big cats for the theme. If you want to figure
out the new theme, watch the first part of the keynote. Hint, it is
not old TV shows.
Brent
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Nashville Cats seems to have been ignored.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> I still like Mac OS X 10.9 Maine Coon Cat.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:59:37 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says,
> > OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various
> > pages on apple.com.
> >
> > Yeap, they ran out of big cats for the theme. If you want to figure
> > out the new theme, watch the first part of the keynote. Hint, it is
> > not old TV shows.
> >
> > Brent
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I still like Mac OS X 10.9 Maine Coon Cat.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:59:37 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > Yeap, you got it. I guess you missed the part of the title that says,
> > OS X (Mavericks), and the keynote from the WWDC today or the various
> > pages on apple.com.
> >
> > Yeap, they ran out of big cats for the theme. If you want to figure
> > out the new theme, watch the first part of the keynote. Hint, it is
> > not old TV shows.
> >
> > Brent
>
Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Mavericks, to me, sounds a lot better than:
>
> Hot Coffee, Mississippi.
> Loafers Glory, North Carolina.
> Boring, Oregon.
> Condemned Bar, California.
> Cranky Corner, Louisiana.
> Greasy, Oklahoma.
> Lick Skillet, Tennessee.
> Do Stop, Kentucky.
> Gobbler's Knob, Pennsylvania.
> Slumgullion Pass, Colorado.
> Great Dismal Swamp, North Carolina.
Tombstone, Arizona
Blue Ball, Pennsylvania
84, Pennsylvania
French Lick, Indiana
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>
> Hot Coffee, Mississippi.
> Loafers Glory, North Carolina.
> Boring, Oregon.
> Condemned Bar, California.
> Cranky Corner, Louisiana.
> Greasy, Oklahoma.
> Lick Skillet, Tennessee.
> Do Stop, Kentucky.
> Gobbler'
> Slumgullion Pass, Colorado.
> Great Dismal Swamp, North Carolina.
Tombstone, Arizona
Blue Ball, Pennsylvania
84, Pennsylvania
French Lick, Indiana
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I shall call it simply 10.9. I do know all the cat names but avoid using
them because many get them mixed up anyway. In any case, when a Mac user
checks their OS version in Apple > About this Mac, it gives the version
"number", not the name. That's all we need to know.
Otto
On 11 June 2013 16:19, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.com > wrote:
> That's a pretty thin reference... How about something less obtuse:
> "Introducing Mavericks, the new release of OS X"?
>
> And I saw no prerequsite of watching the keynote prior to reading the
> document in question...
>
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them because many get them mixed up anyway. In any case, when a Mac user
checks their OS version in Apple > About this Mac, it gives the version
"number"
Otto
On 11 June 2013 16:19, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.
> That's a pretty thin reference... How about something less obtuse:
> "Introducing Mavericks, the new release of OS X"?
>
> And I saw no prerequsite of watching the keynote prior to reading the
> document in question...
>
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:13 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
We have already seen drops in SSD prices and as the technology
propagates to more computer makers the price should drop more rapidly.
I've read that Apple has been one of the early adapters of SSD and also
one of the world's larger consumers of SSD and hopefully that will have
an impact on price drops as other companies finally jump on the SSD
bandwagon more than at present.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:26:09 +0400, Imran Khan wrote:
> But to upgrade the default hard drive currently was cheaper , with
> flash it will be expensive.
We have already seen drops in SSD prices and as the technology
propagates to more computer makers the price should drop more rapidly.
I've read that Apple has been one of the early adapters of SSD and also
one of the world's larger consumers of SSD and hopefully that will have
an impact on price drops as other companies finally jump on the SSD
bandwagon more than at present.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:26:09 +0400, Imran Khan wrote:
> But to upgrade the default hard drive currently was cheaper , with
> flash it will be expensive.
Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> My thoughts is:
> 1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
> 2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are in big trouble
> 3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
> 4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so no more RAID
> 5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
> Imran
It's a little early to be so judgmental about this hardware.
And remember that it has a 20 gigabit per second pipe to external devices (like RAID boxes).
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> 1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
> 2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are in big trouble
> 3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
> 4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so no more RAID
> 5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
> Imran
It's a little early to be so judgmental about this hardware.
And remember that it has a 20 gigabit per second pipe to external devices (like RAID boxes).
--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill Boulware" boulware0224
Not sure what you saw but if you watch the keynote the top comes off and
every part is easily accessible and you can still have the same number of
drives, etc.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> > My thoughts is:
> > 1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
> > 2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are in
> big trouble
> > 3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
> > 4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so no
> more RAID
> > 5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury
> engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
> > Imran
>
> It's a little early to be so judgmental about this hardware.
> And remember that it has a 20 gigabit per second pipe to external devices
> (like RAID boxes).
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>
>
>
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every part is easily accessible and you can still have the same number of
drives, etc.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.
> **
>
>
> > My thoughts is:
> > 1.we can no longer buy cheaper hard drive from market and upgrade
> > 2.Video / Audio editors who invested on PCI based capture cards are in
> big trouble
> > 3. People connecting to fiber storage will be in trouble
> > 4. From the picture it seems only one hard drive can be installed so no
> more RAID
> > 5. If only AMD card is the only video compatible then no more mercury
> engine (in long run it will change but people will curse)
> > Imran
>
> It's a little early to be so judgmental about this hardware.
> And remember that it has a 20 gigabit per second pipe to external devices
> (like RAID boxes).
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
>
>
>
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:58 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I can only see one downside to the new Mac Pro: sales of the current model
must surely have been killed stone dead. The upside would be that anyone
happy with the current monster will be able to get one really cheap if they
wait just a little while.
Otto
On 11 June 2013 18:41, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com > wrote:
> Not sure what you saw but if you watch the keynote the top comes off and
> every part is easily accessible and you can still have the same number of
> drives, etc.
>
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must surely have been killed stone dead. The upside would be that anyone
happy with the current monster will be able to get one really cheap if they
wait just a little while.
Otto
On 11 June 2013 18:41, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@
> Not sure what you saw but if you watch the keynote the top comes off and
> every part is easily accessible and you can still have the same number of
> drives, etc.
>
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Otto I think sales of current MacPro were already dead. Pretty
outdated in many areas and being ignored.
It's been in short supply at many US Apple Stores for months and was
removed from sale in may EU countries (but that was also due to some
other issue - power supply????).
There's been a Facebook page called "We Want A New MacPro" for a couple
of years that's been pretty active.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:57:39 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> I can only see one downside to the new Mac Pro: sales of the current model
> must surely have been killed stone dead. The upside would be that anyone
> happy with the current monster will be able to get one really cheap if they
> wait just a little while.
>
> Otto
Otto I think sales of current MacPro were already dead. Pretty
outdated in many areas and being ignored.
It's been in short supply at many US Apple Stores for months and was
removed from sale in may EU countries (but that was also due to some
other issue - power supply????).
There's been a Facebook page called "We Want A New MacPro" for a couple
of years that's been pretty active.
Denver Dan
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:57:39 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> I can only see one downside to the new Mac Pro: sales of the current model
> must surely have been killed stone dead. The upside would be that anyone
> happy with the current monster will be able to get one really cheap if they
> wait just a little while.
>
> Otto
Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Ross" maltcote@btinternet.com
Hi,
I've also tried your fix. When I opened Keychain Access the topmost keychain was called "Login" but now I too have it called "Microsoft_Intermediate_Certificates", and no "Login"! Wondering where to go from there?
John.
On 10 Jun 2013, at 07:54, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.com > wrote:
>
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Carol wrote:
>
>> As far as I can tell, Yahoo email seems to be a major weakness of the iMac.
>> I have several Yahoo accounts and one Gmail. Periodically, the iMac will not recognize one or more of the Yahoo accounts and I can't get mail. It keeps asking me for the password, which has not changed.
>
> This is a fairly common problem. It's not unique to Yahoo, or any particular ISP.
> It is due to a timing issue between Mail
> and your ISP. Mail gives your account password before your ISP's
> server is ready for it. When the server is finally ready for it, the
> password has already been given, and the server must request it again.
> Thus you get a request for you to manually give your password.
>
> Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
>
> Launch the Keychain application, located in your Utilities
> folder.
>
> in the Edit menu, choose Keychain List. Now in the Shared column check both System and Login.
>
> In the upper left column, highlight Login.
> In the lower left column, highlight Passwords.
>
> In the right window scroll until
> you find your internet service provider's incoming and outgoing mail servers.
> They are usually called something like:
> "mail.yourisp.com"
> and
> "smtp.yourisp.com"
>
> For Comcast they are:
> "mail.comcast.net"
> and
> "smtp.comcast.net"
>
> Double-clicking on each (in turn) will bring up a window with tabs at the top
> which say Attributes and Access Control.
> Select Access Control.
>
> Then select "Allow all applications to access this item." Make sure you do this for both
> the incoming server and outgoing server
> keychain items.
>
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I've also tried your fix. When I opened Keychain Access the topmost keychain was called "Login" but now I too have it called "Microsoft_Intermedi
John.
On 10 Jun 2013, at 07:54, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.
>
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Carol wrote:
>
>> As far as I can tell, Yahoo email seems to be a major weakness of the iMac.
>> I have several Yahoo accounts and one Gmail. Periodically, the iMac will not recognize one or more of the Yahoo accounts and I can't get mail. It keeps asking me for the password, which has not changed.
>
> This is a fairly common problem. It's not unique to Yahoo, or any particular ISP.
> It is due to a timing issue between Mail
> and your ISP. Mail gives your account password before your ISP's
> server is ready for it. When the server is finally ready for it, the
> password has already been given, and the server must request it again.
> Thus you get a request for you to manually give your password.
>
> Doing this fixes the problem for most users:
>
> Launch the Keychain application, located in your Utilities
> folder.
>
> in the Edit menu, choose Keychain List. Now in the Shared column check both System and Login.
>
> In the upper left column, highlight Login.
> In the lower left column, highlight Passwords.
>
> In the right window scroll until
> you find your internet service provider'
> They are usually called something like:
> "mail.yourisp.
> and
> "smtp.yourisp.
>
> For Comcast they are:
> "mail.comcast.
> and
> "smtp.comcast.
>
> Double-clicking on each (in turn) will bring up a window with tabs at the top
> which say Attributes and Access Control.
> Select Access Control.
>
> Then select "Allow all applications to access this item." Make sure you do this for both
> the incoming server and outgoing server
> keychain items.
>
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Anyone think this image a tad dull? No contrast, no luminous greens, OMHO.
Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue
It may not be to your taste, but it's an excellent photograph. Very
subtle and nuanced.
> HAL9000 <mailto:jrswebhome@yahoo.com >
> June 11, 2013 11:57 AM
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> Anyone think this image a tad dull? No contrast, no luminous greens, OMHO.
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subtle and nuanced.
> HAL9000 <mailto:jrswebhome@yahoo.
> June 11, 2013 11:57 AM
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> Anyone think this image a tad dull? No contrast, no luminous greens, OMHO.
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