6/03/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8926

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1a.

Re: Jambox by Jawbone Wireless Speaker

Posted by: "pat412255" pat412@mac.com   pat412255

Sat Jun 2, 2012 6:45 am (PDT)




I bought one from Amazon several months ago & use it every day. I like it a lot & also bought one for my adult grandson who is something of an audiophile & he's also quite pleased with the device.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Michael Moloney <moloney.icloud@...> wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I was just wondering if anyone out there has the Jambox by Jawbone Wireless Speaker and what are your thoughts on it? I am looking for a suitable wireless speaker that is fairly compact to use with my idevices.
>
> Much appreciated.
>
> Michael Moloney
> moloney.icloud@...
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Re: Jambox by Jawbone Wireless Speaker

Posted by: "Michael Moloney" moloney.icloud@gmail.com   moloney_mj

Sat Jun 2, 2012 5:26 pm (PDT)



Cool thanks for the comment. The highlight features seem really awesome according to the Apple website.

Michael Moloney
moloney.icloud@gmail.com

On 02/06/2012, at 11:45 PM, pat412255 wrote:

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> I bought one from Amazon several months ago & use it every day. I like it a lot & also bought one for my adult grandson who is something of an audiophile & he's also quite pleased with the device.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Michael Moloney <moloney.icloud@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was just wondering if anyone out there has the Jambox by Jawbone Wireless Speaker and what are your thoughts on it? I am looking for a suitable wireless speaker that is fairly compact to use with my idevices.
> >
> > Much appreciated.
> >
> > Michael Moloney
> > moloney.icloud@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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2a.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Sat Jun 2, 2012 7:32 am (PDT)




On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Dane Robison wrote:

> On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>> I used to love my Macs because I could just get down to work. Now it's always springing something at me.
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>> What does it "spring at you"?
>>
>>> And graying out the icons.
>>
>> Graying out what icons, when?
>
> While I can appreciate your wanting to know more about Daly's specific objections, Jim, let's note that she's not asking for help with anything. Rather, she's more or less generally complaining that it doesn't feel right. And in the UX world, that which doesn't feel right *isn't* right.

Thanks, Dane. Yes, I was doing an undisciplined whine.

Springing things like constant reminders that some app was downloaded from the internet. Giving me a "Flash" or "HTML5" notice before I can play a video. Intermittently changing my preferences so suddenly brushing my mouse sweeps the window of a running app into a different "space." Hiding system folders. Taking away Save As. Telling me I can't delete a document because it is "in use." (when I have closed the document (obviously, the system is keeping the document secretly active, so now it's more like Windows, where you can't delete an app because it is "in use" when you as user are NOT using it). And many more.

Grayed out dates on the calendar. Grayed out icons in the Finder and Mail.app, so you have to really look at their shapes to choose the one you want, whereas they used to be colorful and unique so you barely had to glance to choose the icon you wanted.

Daly
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Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Jun 2, 2012 7:38 am (PDT)



>>> I used to love my Macs because I could just get down to work. Now it's always springing something at me.
>>
>> What does it "spring at you"?
>>
>>> And graying out the icons.
>>
>> Graying out what icons, when?
>
> While I can appreciate your wanting to know more about Daly's specific objections, Jim, let's note that she's not asking for help with anything. Rather, she's more or less generally complaining that it doesn't feel right. And in the UX world, that which doesn't feel right *isn't* right.
>
> Dane

Firstly, Daly posted a problem on the MacSupport Forum. True, the posting did not request a solution. So?

Secondly, *I* want to know why Daly's computer is apparently doing unpleasant things that mine is not.

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Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "John Engberg" mrbyte@earthlink.net   mrmacbyte

Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:30 am (PDT)




On Jun 2, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Daly Jessup wrote:

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> On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Dane Robison wrote:
>
>> On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>
>>>> I used to love my Macs because I could just get down to work. Now it's always springing something at me.
>>>
>>> What does it "spring at you"?
>>>
>>>> And graying out the icons.
>>>
>>> Graying out what icons, when?
>>
>> While I can appreciate your wanting to know more about Daly's specific objections, Jim, let's note that she's not asking for help with anything. Rather, she's more or less generally complaining that it doesn't feel right. And in the UX world, that which doesn't feel right *isn't* right.
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>
> Thanks, Dane. Yes, I was doing an undisciplined whine.
>
> Springing things like constant reminders that some app was downloaded from the internet. Giving me a "Flash" or "HTML5" notice before I can play a video. Intermittently changing my preferences so suddenly brushing my mouse sweeps the window of a running app into a different "space." Hiding system folders. Taking away Save As. Telling me I can't delete a document because it is "in use." (when I have closed the document (obviously, the system is keeping the document secretly active, so now it's more like Windows, where you can't delete an app because it is "in use" when you as user are NOT using it). And many more.
>
> Grayed out dates on the calendar. Grayed out icons in the Finder and Mail.app, so you have to really look at their shapes to choose the one you want, whereas they used to be colorful and unique so you barely had to glance to choose the icon you wanted.
>
> Daly

I'm with you, Daly, particularly on the issue of gray icons and mouse brush incidents; not to mention the inability to "save as." Generally speaking, Lion is the first version of the OS that I have not liked.

John Engberg
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Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:13 pm (PDT)



Like Jim Saklad, I was curious what was going on with Daly's Mac that mine was not doing.

Now that you explain them, most don't seem dire, but varying degrees of annoying. I say varying degrees, because they annoy different users to different degrees. For me most are very minor, almost to the point that I don't see them.

Of course, it goes without saying, your annoyance level may vary.

Now that Daly explains the grayed out icons, if she had chosen a different description like maybe the gray icons on a gray background. For me this is not only annoying, but a bug or flaw in the graphics. Older eyes, which many of us have on this list, need more contrast to quickly identify the items. Along with the cartoon-leather look, which is high on my annoyance scale, and causes only doubt, but no functional problems.

I don't run in the items in the trash being busy too often, and usually quickly resolved, but why. The fact that there user apps are running hidden from the user is a big flaw in my book.

For me, downloaded from the internet warning is clicked on almost as fast as it appears. Would I like a better way, yes. Flash was not a bother to me, until I learned of the tracking cookies it often installs. So I have a minor annoyance from the videos that won't play. Normally I just move on with out viewing them, so they must not be critical.

As to the Save As, I still haven't figures all of that out, but I think if we think through the new Restore feature, most of that will make sense.

Some of this is just getting used to a new way of doing things, and normal resistance to change. Remember, Think Different.

I assume that those of you who are upset with these things have sent in feedback to Apple, for each of the annoyances. Dispassionate, logical feedback.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Brent

On Jun 2, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Daly Jessup wrote:

Thanks, Dane. Yes, I was doing an undisciplined whine.

Springing things like constant reminders that some app was downloaded from the internet. Giving me a "Flash" or "HTML5" notice before I can play a video. Intermittently changing my preferences so suddenly brushing my mouse sweeps the window of a running app into a different "space." Hiding system folders. Taking away Save As. Telling me I can't delete a document because it is "in use." (when I have closed the document (obviously, the system is keeping the document secretly active, so now it's more like Windows, where you can't delete an app because it is "in use" when you as user are NOT using it). And many more.

Grayed out dates on the calendar. Grayed out icons in the Finder and Mail.app, so you have to really look at their shapes to choose the one you want, whereas they used to be colorful and unique so you barely had to glance to choose the icon you wanted.

Daly

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Parallels desktop 7/Mac fonts4

Posted by: "titnaw" titnaw@gmail.com   titnaw

Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:07 pm (PDT)



I just bought Parallels Desktop7 and it came with a free MacFont4.
I got this to run some programs I had for my PC
I assume I just insert disk and hit install. is this correct? is there any hints on using these?
I am afraid of messing up my Mac
Thanks
TitnawWalker

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4a.

Clean install on iMac

Posted by: "neelie" neeliec2000@yahoo.com   neeliec2000

Sat Jun 2, 2012 5:20 pm (PDT)



Hello.

I've recently received a circa 2008 24" iMac 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo running OS 10.7.3.

I have a few questions:

I want to do a clean install and then install 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard rather than Lion). Will this work okay?

If I do a clean install, will that wipe off the Windows 7 that is currently on the iMac as a "parallel?"

Will doing a clean install wipe out the passwords and computer name (entered by the previous owner)?

The computer did not come with install disks. If I wanted to install Lion, where would be the best place to buy the full installation disks?

Thank you!

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Re: Clean install on iMac

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Sat Jun 2, 2012 5:58 pm (PDT)




On Jun 2, 2012, at 5:20 PM, neelie wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I've recently received a circa 2008 24" iMac 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo running OS 10.7.3.
>
> I have a few questions:
>
> I want to do a clean install and then install 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard rather than Lion). Will this work okay?
>
> If I do a clean install, will that wipe off the Windows 7 that is currently on the iMac as a "parallel?"
>
> Will doing a clean install wipe out the passwords and computer name (entered by the previous owner)?
>
> The computer did not come with install disks. If I wanted to install Lion, where would be the best place to buy the full installation disks?

I would just entirely erase the drive and then install Snow Leopard. That will get rid of everything and let you start totally fresh.

Daly
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Re: Clean install on iMac

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Jun 2, 2012 6:35 pm (PDT)



> I've recently received a circa 2008 24" iMac 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo running OS 10.7.3.
>
> I have a few questions:
>
> I want to do a clean install and then install 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard rather than Lion). Will this work okay?
>
> If I do a clean install, will that wipe off the Windows 7 that is currently on the iMac as a "parallel?"

Firstly, is there just a single partition? (That is, is there a separate "Boot Camp" partition for Parallels to work on, or does Parallels use a "virtual drive"?)

Normally, a Clean Install (erase the main HD partition, then install from scratch there) will be what you want. If there are two (or more) partitions, the other one(s) should remain untouched.

An alternative approach would be to use Disk Utility (from the Snow Leopard Install Disk) to re-partition the drive. This would most likely erase everything in all partitions.

If you have only one partition, and Windows 7 is in a virtual drive in that partition, along with everything Mac, it will be erased when the drive is erased.

> Will doing a clean install wipe out the passwords and computer name (entered by the previous owner)?

Yes.

> The computer did not come with install disks. If I wanted to install Lion, where would be the best place to buy the full installation disks?

Mac App Store.
After buying and downloading it (around 3.7 GB), and BEFORE installing it, move or copy it from ./Applications to another location, otherwise your only copy will be deleted after the Lion install.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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4d.

Re: Clean install on iMac

Posted by: "neelie" neeliec2000@yahoo.com   neeliec2000

Sat Jun 2, 2012 7:08 pm (PDT)



Hello Jim,

With my very limited knowledge of Windows 7, it seems that it is only a virtual drive on the desktop. It has two big red stripes running vertically though the word Parallels Desktop.

I've found no partitions on the iMac.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > I've recently received a circa 2008 24" iMac 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo running OS 10.7.3.
> >
> > I have a few questions:
> >
> > I want to do a clean install and then install 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard rather than Lion). Will this work okay?
> >
> > If I do a clean install, will that wipe off the Windows 7 that is currently on the iMac as a "parallel?"
>
> Firstly, is there just a single partition? (That is, is there a separate "Boot Camp" partition for Parallels to work on, or does Parallels use a "virtual drive"?)
>
> Normally, a Clean Install (erase the main HD partition, then install from scratch there) will be what you want. If there are two (or more) partitions, the other one(s) should remain untouched.
>
> An alternative approach would be to use Disk Utility (from the Snow Leopard Install Disk) to re-partition the drive. This would most likely erase everything in all partitions.
>
> If you have only one partition, and Windows 7 is in a virtual drive in that partition, along with everything Mac, it will be erased when the drive is erased.
>
> > Will doing a clean install wipe out the passwords and computer name (entered by the previous owner)?
>
> Yes.
>
> > The computer did not come with install disks. If I wanted to install Lion, where would be the best place to buy the full installation disks?
>
>
> Mac App Store.
> After buying and downloading it (around 3.7 GB), and BEFORE installing it, move or copy it from ./Applications to another location, otherwise your only copy will be deleted after the Lion install.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@...
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Clean install on iMac

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:01 pm (PDT)



> With my very limited knowledge of Windows 7, it seems that it is only a virtual drive on the desktop. It has two big red stripes running vertically though the word Parallels Desktop.

Then a Clean Install will most likely erase the Windows installation as well as everything else.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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Re: Clean install on iMac

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sat Jun 2, 2012 10:09 pm (PDT)



She wants to install 10.6.8, not 10.7. 10.6 came out on optical disc.

On Jun 2, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> I've recently received a circa 2008 24" iMac 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo running OS 10.7.3.
>
> I have a few questions:
>
> I want to do a clean install and then install 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard rather than Lion). Will this work okay?
>
> If I do a clean install, will that wipe off the Windows 7 that is currently on the iMac as a "parallel?"

Firstly, is there just a single partition? (That is, is there a separate "Boot Camp" partition for Parallels to work on, or does Parallels use a "virtual drive"?)

Normally, a Clean Install (erase the main HD partition, then install from scratch there) will be what you want. If there are two (or more) partitions, the other one(s) should remain untouched.

An alternative approach would be to use Disk Utility (from the Snow Leopard Install Disk) to re-partition the drive. This would most likely erase everything in all partitions.

If you have only one partition, and Windows 7 is in a virtual drive in that partition, along with everything Mac, it will be erased when the drive is erased.

> Will doing a clean install wipe out the passwords and computer name (entered by the previous owner)?

Yes.

> The computer did not come with install disks. If I wanted to install Lion, where would be the best place to buy the full installation disks?

Mac App Store.
After buying and downloading it (around 3.7 GB), and BEFORE installing it, move or copy it from ./Applications to another location, otherwise your only copy will be deleted after the Lion install.

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5a.

Re: How to delete audiobooks on iPhone

Posted by: "Joan B. Sax, Ph.D." jsax@me.com   joan05061

Sat Jun 2, 2012 7:19 pm (PDT)



Sorry, I didn't mean to deprive you of my valuable knowledge. Actually, I thought I was being so dumb and that everyone else would have figured it out by now. What I did was to erase everything in the audiobook playlist folder and then I could delete the audiobook folder by pressing Command/Delete. See, I told you it was dumb.

Joan in Vermont where we are having a weekend of off and on heavy downpours, giving us our name, Green Mountain State.

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