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Sat Jun 1, 2013 4:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I wonder what is different about it. There must be something ...
Otto
On 1 June 2013 15:22, bobbystar <bobbystar@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Good idea, after checking I found that all the other groups work properly
> and show up as expanded.
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> The problem seems to be only for my "usual" group.
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Otto
On 1 June 2013 15:22, bobbystar <bobbystar@yahoo.
> Good idea, after checking I found that all the other groups work properly
> and show up as expanded.
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> The problem seems to be only for my "usual" group.
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Sat Jun 1, 2013 4:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
The funny thing is, I can't drag any group from Contacts to Mail.
Otto
On 1 June 2013 15:24, bobbystar <bobbystar@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Yes, another good idea. dragging the group name from the address book to
> the address field also works and it also shows up expanded.
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Otto
On 1 June 2013 15:24, bobbystar <bobbystar@yahoo.
> Yes, another good idea. dragging the group name from the address book to
> the address field also works and it also shows up expanded.
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 12:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Oneal Neumann" newalander
Last night, as I periodically do, I removed all the cookies from Safari (version 5.1.9). I noticed that as soon as I reopened Safari Preferences thereafter, I had 7 cookies onboard, even though I had done nothing.
I redid the cookie removal more than a few times and each time there were either 7 or 17 cookies when I did Safari > Preferences > Privacy. Don't know why those numbers surfaced.
This morning I had a looksee again at the cookies situation and I was floored to see that there were 517 cookies onboard. No way I went to even 10 percent of the sites listed.
How did that happen?
I don't mind cookies because everybody uses them and websites 'need' them (presumably)
I have selected 'Block cookies: from third parties and advertisers&#
Perhaps other settings would be in order?
How do I kick out cookies from websites that I have no intention of ever revisiting or even visiting? I presume that some sort of Spotlight searching is now necessitated?
Thanx. Oneal
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Quick search suggests that you are not the first to discover this. There is something going one with caching. Some cookies are apparently more persistent than others. I did not research enough to get details, but two suggestions from others:
> I found this works to get rid of all cookies:
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> Safari>Preferences>Privacy>;Remove All Website Data>Remove All Wesite Data
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> Clicking on Remove All Wesite Data twice, will remove them, except for the page you have open.
Apparently after restart, all will be gone except for the page you are on.
I also see references to using the "empty cache" commands in utilities like Cookie Stumbler.
Cheers,
tod
On Jun 2, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
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> Last night, as I periodically do, I removed all the cookies from Safari (version 5.1.9). I noticed that as soon as I reopened Safari Preferences thereafter, I had 7 cookies onboard, even though I had done nothing.
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> I redid the cookie removal more than a few times and each time there were either 7 or 17 cookies when I did Safari > Preferences > Privacy. Don‚t know why those numbers surfaced.
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> This morning I had a looksee again at the cookies situation and I was floored to see that there were 517 cookies onboard. No way I went to even 10 percent of the sites listed.
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> How did that happen?
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> I don‚t mind cookies because everybody uses them and websites 'need' them (presumably).
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> I have selected 'Block cookies: from third parties and advertisers' and 'Limit website access to location services: prompt for easch website once each day'.
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> Perhaps other settings would be in order?
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> How do I kick out cookies from websites that I have no intention of ever revisiting or even visiting? I presume that some sort of Spotlight searching is now necessitated?
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> Thanx. Oneal
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> I found this works to get rid of all cookies:
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> Clicking on Remove All Wesite Data twice, will remove them, except for the page you have open.
Apparently after restart, all will be gone except for the page you are on.
I also see references to using the "empty cache" commands in utilities like Cookie Stumbler.
Cheers,
tod
On Jun 2, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
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> Last night, as I periodically do, I removed all the cookies from Safari (version 5.1.9). I noticed that as soon as I reopened Safari Preferences thereafter, I had 7 cookies onboard, even though I had done nothing.
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> I redid the cookie removal more than a few times and each time there were either 7 or 17 cookies when I did Safari > Preferences > Privacy. Don‚t know why those numbers surfaced.
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> This morning I had a looksee again at the cookies situation and I was floored to see that there were 517 cookies onboard. No way I went to even 10 percent of the sites listed.
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> How did that happen?
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> I don‚t mind cookies because everybody uses them and websites 'need' them (presumably)
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> I have selected 'Block cookies: from third parties and advertisers&#
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> Perhaps other settings would be in order?
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> How do I kick out cookies from websites that I have no intention of ever revisiting or even visiting? I presume that some sort of Spotlight searching is now necessitated?
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> Thanx. Oneal
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 5:49 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Oneal Neumann" newalander
> On 2013 June 2 (at 13:23) T Hopkins wrote:
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> Quick search suggests that you are not the first to discover this. There is something going on with caching. Some cookies are apparently more persistent than others. I did not research enough to get details, but two suggestions from others:
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>> I found this works to get rid of all cookies:
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>> Safari > Preferences > Privacy > Remove All Website Data > Remove All Website Data
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>> Clicking on Remove All Wesite Data twice, will remove them, except for the page you have open.
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> Apparently after restart, all will be gone except for the page you are on.
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> I also see references to using the 'empty cache' commands in utilities like Cookie Stumbler.
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> Cheers, tod
The above gets rid of the cookies, but they come back, Tod. I had already done that.
I checked on Cookie Stumbler and did not like what I saw.
https://www.
I do not mind paying for apps, however I should not have to pay for license extensions, unless the app has actually been upgraded. Hitting the link one sees a lot of negative comments about the app, which the developer (Writeit! Studios) tries to address.
I will await more suggestions.
Thanx. Oneal
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 9:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Try deleting the cookies plist from Home/library/Cookies.
You may also need to Repair Permissions. It's possible some of the cookies can't be deleted because of permissions problems.
This is clearly a common issue. There are many "solutions" depending on the cause.
A "single" web page can set multiple cookies. Dozens even. The fact that you are only seeing 7 at start up is no surprise unless you are starting with a blank tab (no home page). In fact, you might want to try that and see what happens. Delete everything and set to restart without any home page, just a blank tab. See if you get any cookies that way.
And many cookies will not contain the URL in the address bar because that is not the address of the server setting the cookie. These are not necessarily "third party" because one "page" these days is often built from information from many sources, but those sources are all part of the primary site.
Cheers,
tod
On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
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> > On 2013 June 2 (at 13:23) T Hopkins wrote:
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> > Quick search suggests that you are not the first to discover this. There is something going on with caching. Some cookies are apparently more persistent than others. I did not research enough to get details, but two suggestions from others:
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> >> I found this works to get rid of all cookies:
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> >> Safari > Preferences > Privacy > Remove All Website Data > Remove All Website Data
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> >> Clicking on Remove All Wesite Data twice, will remove them, except for the page you have open.
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> > Apparently after restart, all will be gone except for the page you are on.
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> > I also see references to using the 'empty cache' commands in utilities like Cookie Stumbler.
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> > Cheers, tod
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> The above gets rid of the cookies, but they come back, Tod. I had already done that.
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> I checked on Cookie Stumbler and did not like what I saw.
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> https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37648/cookie-stumbler
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> I do not mind paying for apps, however I should not have to pay for license extensions, unless the app has actually been upgraded. Hitting the link one sees a lot of negative comments about the app, which the developer (Writeit! Studios) tries to address.
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> I will await more suggestions.
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> Thanx. Oneal
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You may also need to Repair Permissions. It's possible some of the cookies can't be deleted because of permissions problems.
This is clearly a common issue. There are many "solutions&quo
A "single" web page can set multiple cookies. Dozens even. The fact that you are only seeing 7 at start up is no surprise unless you are starting with a blank tab (no home page). In fact, you might want to try that and see what happens. Delete everything and set to restart without any home page, just a blank tab. See if you get any cookies that way.
And many cookies will not contain the URL in the address bar because that is not the address of the server setting the cookie. These are not necessarily "third party" because one "page" these days is often built from information from many sources, but those sources are all part of the primary site.
Cheers,
tod
On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
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> > On 2013 June 2 (at 13:23) T Hopkins wrote:
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> > Quick search suggests that you are not the first to discover this. There is something going on with caching. Some cookies are apparently more persistent than others. I did not research enough to get details, but two suggestions from others:
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> >> I found this works to get rid of all cookies:
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> >> Safari > Preferences > Privacy > Remove All Website Data > Remove All Website Data
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> >> Clicking on Remove All Wesite Data twice, will remove them, except for the page you have open.
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> > Apparently after restart, all will be gone except for the page you are on.
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> > I also see references to using the 'empty cache' commands in utilities like Cookie Stumbler.
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> > Cheers, tod
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> The above gets rid of the cookies, but they come back, Tod. I had already done that.
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> I checked on Cookie Stumbler and did not like what I saw.
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> https://www.
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> I do not mind paying for apps, however I should not have to pay for license extensions, unless the app has actually been upgraded. Hitting the link one sees a lot of negative comments about the app, which the developer (Writeit! Studios) tries to address.
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> I will await more suggestions.
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> Thanx. Oneal
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 10:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Oneal Neumann" newalander
On 2013 June 2 (at 18:21) T Hopkins wrote:
> Try deleting the cookies plist from Home/library/
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> You may also need to Repair Permissions. It's possible some of the cookies can't be deleted because of permissions problems.
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> This is clearly a common issue. There are many 'solutions&#
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> A 'single&#
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> And many cookies will not contain the URL in the address bar because that is not the address of the server setting the cookie. These are not necessarily "third party" because one "page" these days is often built from information from many sources, but those sources are all part of the primary site.
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> Cheers, tod
In this order: I deleted the Cookies.plist file, used Preferential Treatment (everything okay), then used Yasu (per Randy Singer's settings suggestion).
Finally I cleared all the existing cookies. Unlike before, where there were more than 500 cookies, this time there were (only ???) somewhat more than 200 cookies before clearing.
When I restarted Safari, there was only one cookie: an apple.com file. Previously there had been 7 or 17 on numerous restarts.
We will see how many cookies come onboard during the coming hours.
Thanx for the help. Oneal
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 11:15 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
I own "Cookie" by SweetP Productions.
I have trained it (it isn't complex at all)
to remove all cookies when Safari quits,
with the exception of friendly cookies.
I CHOOSE what are friendly and what aren't.
I never worry about tracking anymore.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Oneal Neumann <wardell.h.s@...> wrote:
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> Last night, as I periodically do, I removed all the cookies from Safari (version 5.1.9). I noticed that as soon as I reopened Safari Preferences thereafter, I had 7 cookies onboard, even though I had done nothing.
>
> I redid the cookie removal more than a few times and each time there were either 7 or 17 cookies when I did Safari > Preferences > Privacy. Don't know why those numbers surfaced.
>
> This morning I had a looksee again at the cookies situation and I was floored to see that there were 517 cookies onboard. No way I went to even 10 percent of the sites listed.
>
> How did that happen?
>
> I don't mind cookies because everybody uses them and websites 'need' them (presumably).
>
> I have selected 'Block cookies: from third parties and advertisers' and 'Limit website access to location services: prompt for easch website once each day'.
>
> Perhaps other settings would be in order?
>
> How do I kick out cookies from websites that I have no intention of ever revisiting or even visiting? I presume that some sort of Spotlight searching is now necessitated?
>
> Thanx. Oneal
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I have trained it (it isn't complex at all)
to remove all cookies when Safari quits,
with the exception of friendly cookies.
I CHOOSE what are friendly and what aren't.
I never worry about tracking anymore.
--- In macsupportcentral@
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> Last night, as I periodically do, I removed all the cookies from Safari (version 5.1.9). I noticed that as soon as I reopened Safari Preferences thereafter, I had 7 cookies onboard, even though I had done nothing.
>
> I redid the cookie removal more than a few times and each time there were either 7 or 17 cookies when I did Safari > Preferences > Privacy. Don't know why those numbers surfaced.
>
> This morning I had a looksee again at the cookies situation and I was floored to see that there were 517 cookies onboard. No way I went to even 10 percent of the sites listed.
>
> How did that happen?
>
> I don't mind cookies because everybody uses them and websites 'need' them (presumably)
>
> I have selected 'Block cookies: from third parties and advertisers&#
>
> Perhaps other settings would be in order?
>
> How do I kick out cookies from websites that I have no intention of ever revisiting or even visiting? I presume that some sort of Spotlight searching is now necessitated?
>
> Thanx. Oneal
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 6:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
Asking for a friend...
Can this application be run under OS X 10.6.8? ::
Macromedia Freehand MX 11.0
Thanks,
Dave
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 6:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Hamm" jimhamm90
See if this <http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?p=2955 > helps....Jim
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 1:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bekah" bekalex
My brother just bought an iPad mini and the sales guy was trying to convince him that a screen cover was necessary. I've had a regular iPad 2 for a couple years and I've never had need of a screen cover - a case, yes, that little screen protector, no.
What's the common thinking on this?
Bekah
What's the common thinking on this?
Bekah
Sun Jun 2, 2013 1:16 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Harry" jnharry
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
> My brother just bought an iPad mini and the sales guy was trying to convince him that a screen cover was necessary. I've had a regular iPad 2 for a couple years and I've never had need of a screen cover - a case, yes, that little screen protector, no.
I've never had a screen protector on the three different iPads i've
owned (kept trading up). I did get a very fine scratch on the iPad 2,
but that was the extend of it. I use a folio type case now that
protects it when not in use, which is the time mine is most likely to
get scratched.
Jim H.
> My brother just bought an iPad mini and the sales guy was trying to convince him that a screen cover was necessary. I've had a regular iPad 2 for a couple years and I've never had need of a screen cover - a case, yes, that little screen protector, no.
I've never had a screen protector on the three different iPads i've
owned (kept trading up). I did get a very fine scratch on the iPad 2,
but that was the extend of it. I use a folio type case now that
protects it when not in use, which is the time mine is most likely to
get scratched.
Jim H.
Sun Jun 2, 2013 1:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pat Taylor" pat412255
I've never used a screen protector & have never had a scratch on any of the many iOS devices that I've owned.
Sent from my iPad...î…
On Jun 2, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
> My brother just bought an iPad mini and the sales guy was trying to convince him that a screen cover was necessary. I've had a regular iPad 2 for a couple years and I've never had need of a screen cover - a case, yes, that little screen protector, no.
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> What's the common thinking on this?
>
> Bekah
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Sent from my iPad...î…
On Jun 2, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal
> My brother just bought an iPad mini and the sales guy was trying to convince him that a screen cover was necessary. I've had a regular iPad 2 for a couple years and I've never had need of a screen cover - a case, yes, that little screen protector, no.
>
> What's the common thinking on this?
>
> Bekah
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 1:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jennifer Roane" jenalr
We have kids that play with ours and I have a case for my iPad 2 and a case for my iPad mini. I find that the "book type" of case on the mini is my favorite. It's by Belkin.
The iPad 2 we don't keep in the case because.
If it's for adults only and not traveling much I don't know that I'd get one. I did drop my mini the other day on a tile floor and fortunately nothing happened to it! I think that the case had a lot to do with that.
Jennifer
On Jun 2, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
> My brother just bought an iPad mini and the sales guy was trying to convince him that a screen cover was necessary. I've had a regular iPad 2 for a couple years and I've never had need of a screen cover - a case, yes, that little screen protector, no.
>
> What's the common thinking on this?
>
> Bekah
>
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The iPad 2 we don't keep in the case because.
If it's for adults only and not traveling much I don't know that I'd get one. I did drop my mini the other day on a tile floor and fortunately nothing happened to it! I think that the case had a lot to do with that.
Jennifer
On Jun 2, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Bekah <bekah0176@sbcglobal
> My brother just bought an iPad mini and the sales guy was trying to convince him that a screen cover was necessary. I've had a regular iPad 2 for a couple years and I've never had need of a screen cover - a case, yes, that little screen protector, no.
>
> What's the common thinking on this?
>
> Bekah
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Sun Jun 2, 2013 1:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jennifer Roane" jenalr
Agreed!
Since doing the hard reset (if that is what it's called) I haven't had the issue again….however I also haven't been using it much. I'll know within a week or two.
Jennifer
On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I feel strongly that this is a problem that can be fixed without $$. Others have made suggestions that will get it resolved. Is the computer you back up the phone to a laptop? If you don't want to deal with fixing this issue yourself take the phone & computer to an Apple store.
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> Upgrading to a newer model has associated costs re. renewing your plan commitment for another x years, etc. I too feel it best to keep the phone as long as one can. But that's just me...
>
> Dave
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> Sent from my iPod
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> On 1 Jun 2013, at 06:28 AM, Jennifer Roane wrote:
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> I like my phone so I really don't feel a need to upgrade - but will if need be.
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Since doing the hard reset (if that is what it's called) I haven't had the issue again….however I also haven't been using it much. I'll know within a week or two.
Jennifer
On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.
> I feel strongly that this is a problem that can be fixed without $$. Others have made suggestions that will get it resolved. Is the computer you back up the phone to a laptop? If you don't want to deal with fixing this issue yourself take the phone & computer to an Apple store.
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> Upgrading to a newer model has associated costs re. renewing your plan commitment for another x years, etc. I too feel it best to keep the phone as long as one can. But that's just me...
>
> Dave
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> Sent from my iPod
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> On 1 Jun 2013, at 06:28 AM, Jennifer Roane wrote:
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> I like my phone so I really don't feel a need to upgrade - but will if need be.
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