6/08/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9584

15 New Messages

Digest #9584
1a
Re: Mac Pilot email? by "N.A. Nada"
2.1
2.2
Re: new MBP won't wake up by "Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002
3b
Re: simple .. and i mean simple ... drawing program by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
5a
MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "jgarv2002" jgarv2002
5b
Re: MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
5c
Re: MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll
5d
Re: MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002
5e
Re: MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
5f
Re: MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
5g
Re: MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002
5h
Re: MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
5i
Re: MacBook Pro keyboard protector by "Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll

Messages

Fri Jun 7, 2013 4:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

And I am curious enough to look into it, and I could not find it with the wrong name.

I still can not find the OS X version in the Mac App Store, and had a heck of a time finding it on the web. I kept getting the iOS version, which may still be in beta, but on sale to the public. You still have to go to the developers to sign up for the beta OS X version apparently.

The iOS version is only 2 months old, you're saying it is buggy and their reviews of the first 3 release are showing mixed, but poor reviews.

I'll watch it for a bit longer.

Brent

On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:23 PM, John Masters wrote:

Well, I knew what you meant :)

John Masters
johnmasters@me.com

On 7 Jun 2013, at 19:33, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Has anyone tried Mac Pilot email app for iOS?
>
> I ask because they have released a version for Mac OS X that is on App Store but seems expensive.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> [|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|]
> iSent from iDan's iPhone
>
>

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Fri Jun 7, 2013 4:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

When Apple products sleep, they tend to pulse a light somewhere, like they are breathing in their sleep.

If you have it set to never sleep, and it is running on battery. You might be running the battery down all the way where it forces it to shut down. That is why I suggest calling Apple.

Brent

On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Jim McGarvie wrote:

Thanks, yes I don't think I've lost anything.

Now I'm not so sure I phrased the problem correctly. I don't think it is that it won't wake up, because that implies it was asleep, and I have it set to never sleep when plugged in. Now I think maybe it is just occasionally shutting down completely. That is more what it acts like.

Yes, it isn't a week old yet. Guess I'll try AppleCare.

Best,

Jim

On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:43 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

If you are working on documents on the internal hard drive, the system should automatically save it for you.

Check your settings again. If it is new call AppleCare.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Jim McGarvie wrote:

Just got a new MBP Retina to replace my older MBP. With my old MBP, when I would leave it for a few hours the display would go to sleep in accordance with my Energy Saver settings, but I set the computer to never sleep. Whenever I returned I would hit an arrow key and it would wake up.

With my new MBP, with the same Energy Saver settings, when I leave it for a few hours and return it won't wake up. I hit different keys, use the track pad, etc. Eventually I give up and do a hard reboot, risking any unsaved data.

Any hints?

Thanks.

Best,

Jim

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Fri Jun 7, 2013 7:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002

Actually it was plugged in. And this new MacBook Pro Retina doesn't have the light on the front like my previous MBP had.

I did call AppleCare, and I can't thank you enough for that advice. Tonie was extremely helpful, and I could understand every word she said! I actually called not because of this problem--although it might be related--but because of three instances of "Mac OS X startup disk has no more space available for application memory" occurrences. She talked me through a PRAM reset, then a Recovery procedure, to get to the disk utility to do a repair, then emptied out the cache and one other folder in the library. So far so good.

Thanks again.

Best,

Jim

On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:54 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

When Apple products sleep, they tend to pulse a light somewhere, like they are breathing in their sleep.

If you have it set to never sleep, and it is running on battery. You might be running the battery down all the way where it forces it to shut down. That is why I suggest calling Apple.

Brent

On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Jim McGarvie wrote:

Thanks, yes I don't think I've lost anything.

Now I'm not so sure I phrased the problem correctly. I don't think it is that it won't wake up, because that implies it was asleep, and I have it set to never sleep when plugged in. Now I think maybe it is just occasionally shutting down completely. That is more what it acts like.

Yes, it isn't a week old yet. Guess I'll try AppleCare.

Best,

Jim

On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:43 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

If you are working on documents on the internal hard drive, the system should automatically save it for you.

Check your settings again. If it is new call AppleCare.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Jim McGarvie wrote:

Just got a new MBP Retina to replace my older MBP. With my old MBP, when I would leave it for a few hours the display would go to sleep in accordance with my Energy Saver settings, but I set the computer to never sleep. Whenever I returned I would hit an arrow key and it would wake up.

With my new MBP, with the same Energy Saver settings, when I leave it for a few hours and return it won't wake up. I hit different keys, use the track pad, etc. Eventually I give up and do a hard reboot, risking any unsaved data.

Any hints?

Thanks.

Best,

Jim

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Fri Jun 7, 2013 8:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"halboye18" halboye18

I used to have a (free I think) little program on my PC that allowed me to draw on documents, such as word documents, screen shots, etc. There were presets of arrows of various sizes, circles, etc. This was not a sophisticated drawing program, but it was great for my purposes.

I don't know if such exists for Mountain Lion, but would certainly like your input.

Thanks very much for your help,

hal horwitz

hal.horwitz@comcast.net

Fri Jun 7, 2013 8:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:29 PM, halboye18 wrote:

> I used to have a (free I think) little program on my PC that allowed me to draw on documents, such as word documents, screen shots, etc. There were presets of arrows of various sizes, circles, etc. This was not a sophisticated drawing program, but it was great for my purposes.
>
> I don't know if such exists for Mountain Lion, but would certainly like your input.

Any graphic program (drawing or painting type) should be able to open a graphic file and allow you to draw on top of it. Such a program that has a layering feature would be especially useful. Let me know if you would like a list of drawing and painting programs for the Mac. Here are a couple that are free:

iPaint (free)
http://ipaint.sourceforge.net/

DrawBerry (free, donations requested)
http://raphaelbost.free.fr/DrawBerry.html

Microsoft Word documents can be opened in Word itself, or one of the OpenOffice siblings (LibreOffice, NeoOffice, or Apache OpenOffice) and you can use the redlining features and graphic features in those programs to annotate them or draw on them.

Preview (comes with OS X), will allow you to open any PDF and annotate and/or draw on it. Just open the PDF, click on the Annotate button in the toolbar, and a tool palette will open at the bottom of the screen. Preview can annotate graphic files also, though with fewer features, by opening the graphic file and choosing Tool menu --> Annotate.

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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Fri Jun 7, 2013 10:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Eric" emanmb

Before going to bed last night, I ran SU one more time just to check things and there was the update available. iTunes has been available since Wed. but for some reason it was not showing up here.
Also Security Update 2013-002 was available as well.
Go figger eh?
e

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Patsy Price <beyondwords@...> wrote:
>
> Even though I don't use the bells & whistles in iTunes, I finally
> decided to pay attention to Software Update today and installed the
> 11.0.4 iTunes update via Software Update on 10.6.8 without a hitch.
>
> Patsy
>

Sat Jun 8, 2013 9:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"jgarv2002" jgarv2002

After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.

My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.

Any experience out there?

Thanks.

Best,

Jim

Sat Jun 8, 2013 9:56 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Jim

You have stimulated me to go an wash my keyboard protector. It has been living on my 4½ year old MBPro since it was new, and it's filthy.

On the other hand, the actual keyboard is as pristine as the day it arrived.

<http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/>

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Sat Jun 8, 2013 10:03 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll

I am considering Dvorak decaling my keys. Is that protector amiable to
having decals like:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005WG47BU
applied or is it made of a material that would not lend itself to that?

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> > After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the
> guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I
> thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP
> Retina.
> >
> > My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there
> was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least
> some of them must be pretty good.
> >
> > Any experience out there?
> >
> > Jim
>
> You have stimulated me to go an wash my keyboard protector. It has been
> living on my 4½ year old MBPro since it was new, and it's filthy.
>
> On the other hand, the actual keyboard is as pristine as the day it
> arrived.
>
> <http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/>
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>
>
>

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Sat Jun 8, 2013 10:12 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002

I guess that means you like it! Doesn't affect your typing?

Best,

Jim
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 8, 2013, at 9:56, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:

> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Jim

You have stimulated me to go an wash my keyboard protector. It has been living on my 4½ year old MBPro since it was new, and it's filthy.

On the other hand, the actual keyboard is as pristine as the day it arrived.

<http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/>

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

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Sat Jun 8, 2013 10:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>> You have stimulated me to go an wash my keyboard protector. It has been
>> living on my 4½ year old MBPro since it was new, and it's filthy.
>>
>> On the other hand, the actual keyboard is as pristine as the day it
>> arrived.
>>
>> <http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/>
>
> I am considering Dvorak decaling my keys. Is that protector amiable to
> having decals like:
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005WG47BU
> applied or is it made of a material that would not lend itself to that?

It's not an application I have a need for, so I've never looked into that.
There may well be keyboard covers with built-in key-caps for Dvorak.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Sat Jun 8, 2013 10:34 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>> You have stimulated me to go an wash my keyboard protector. It has been living on my 4½ year old MBPro since it was new, and it's filthy.
>>
>> On the other hand, the actual keyboard is as pristine as the day it arrived.
>>
>> <http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/>
>
> I guess that means you like it! Doesn't affect your typing?
> Jim

After years of use, I have concluded that it probably does affect my typing *a little* -- mainly the very occasional key press that doesn't register on the computer. But perhaps I would have that problem even without the cover....

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Sat Jun 8, 2013 10:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002

Good info, thanks.

Best,

Jim
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:34, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:

>> You have stimulated me to go an wash my keyboard protector. It has been living on my 4½ year old MBPro since it was new, and it's filthy.
>>
>> On the other hand, the actual keyboard is as pristine as the day it arrived.
>>
>> <http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/>
>
> I guess that means you like it! Doesn't affect your typing?
> Jim

After years of use, I have concluded that it probably does affect my typing *a little* -- mainly the very occasional key press that doesn't register on the computer. But perhaps I would have that problem even without the cover....

--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

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Sat Jun 8, 2013 10:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Spilled a full Pepsi can on my G4 Tower keyboard once. In an experimental mood I spread out a towel onto the kitchen table and disassembled the keyboard. Washed it all in soap and water, then dried w a hair dryer. Worked after reassembling, but today, a new keyboard looks a lot easier.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "jgarv2002&quot; <jim@...> wrote:
>
> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>

Sat Jun 8, 2013 10:46 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll

http://www.kbcovers.com/servlet/Detail?no=284
Thanks for the idea. I did not put 2 +2 together and get 4 on this one as I
was researching Dvorak external keyboards (which I will still get for non
commute/siting at desk with 2nd monitor situations).

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Good info, thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:34, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> >> You have stimulated me to go an wash my keyboard protector. It has been
> living on my 4½ year old MBPro since it was new, and it's filthy.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, the actual keyboard is as pristine as the day it
> arrived.
> >>
> >> <http://www.iskin.com/protouch_macbook/>
> >
> > I guess that means you like it! Doesn't affect your typing?
> > Jim
>
> After years of use, I have concluded that it probably does affect my
> typing *a little* -- mainly the very occasional key press that doesn't
> register on the computer. But perhaps I would have that problem even
> without the cover....
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>
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>
>
>

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