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Mon Jul 8, 2013 4:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Yes, but that option's been removed in Safari 6.
Otto
On 8 July 2013 23:10, Patsy Price <beyondwords@shaw.ca > wrote:
> In Safari 5.1.6 it's under Safari Preferences > Tabs > Confirm before
> closing multiple tabs or windows.
>
> I'm grateful for the warning, even though it's an extra step when I
> really do wan to close the window with all its tabs.
>
>
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Otto
On 8 July 2013 23:10, Patsy Price <beyondwords@
> In Safari 5.1.6 it's under Safari Preferences > Tabs > Confirm before
> closing multiple tabs or windows.
>
> I'm grateful for the warning, even though it's an extra step when I
> really do wan to close the window with all its tabs.
>
>
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Mon Jul 8, 2013 4:14 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 8 July 2013 23:58, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
>
> You don't mention your operating system, nor what browser you are using,
> nor the browser version.
>
> However, in Safari 6.0.5 under Lion on my Intel iMac, I can go to
> Safari/Preferences/General and the third option is "Safari opens with:" and
> there you can choose "All windows from last session." And if, under the
> Tabs button, you selected "Open pages in tabs instead of windows" -
> Automatically, then what you get on startup is all the tabs from your last
> session.
>
I don't understand. Carol told us it was Safari, and the issue described
tells us it is Safari 6. (The OS version is irrelevant.)
Thanks for the Prefs tip, though: I had somehow missed that.
Otto
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>
> You don't mention your operating system, nor what browser you are using,
> nor the browser version.
>
> However, in Safari 6.0.5 under Lion on my Intel iMac, I can go to
> Safari/Preferences/
> there you can choose "All windows from last session." And if, under the
> Tabs button, you selected "Open pages in tabs instead of windows" -
> Automatically, then what you get on startup is all the tabs from your last
> session.
>
I don't understand. Carol told us it was Safari, and the issue described
tells us it is Safari 6. (The OS version is irrelevant.)
Thanks for the Prefs tip, though: I had somehow missed that.
Otto
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Mon Jul 8, 2013 4:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
It is a security feature if you are using multiple devices or locations, or had your account hacked. You will find the same thing at Hulu, Facebook or google.
So learn to love it.
Brent
On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
My question is how to get rid of this alert. When I click on it YT says no problems.
(yes I access YT from many locations.)
Dave
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Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.
On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:16 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
Do you view YouTube on multiple devices?
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So learn to love it.
Brent
On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
My question is how to get rid of this alert. When I click on it YT says no problems.
(yes I access YT from many locations.)
Dave
Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.
On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:16 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.
Do you view YouTube on multiple devices?
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Mon Jul 8, 2013 11:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"DaveC" davec2468
I don't understand how it works. I see the warning, I click on it, it says "Everything is OK". How is this of value?
Thanks,
Dave
Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and tupos. (c;
On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> It is a security feature if you are using multiple devices or locations, or had your account hacked. You will find the same thing at Hulu, Facebook or google.
>
> So learn to love it.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
>
> My question is how to get rid of this alert. When I click on it YT says no problems.
>
> (yes I access YT from many locations.)
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my phone.
> Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.
>
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:16 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Do you view YouTube on multiple devices?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Thanks,
Dave
Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and tupos. (c;
On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.
> It is a security feature if you are using multiple devices or locations, or had your account hacked. You will find the same thing at Hulu, Facebook or google.
>
> So learn to love it.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
>
> My question is how to get rid of this alert. When I click on it YT says no problems.
>
> (yes I access YT from many locations.)
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my phone.
> Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.
>
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:16 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.
>
> Do you view YouTube on multiple devices?
>
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Tue Jul 9, 2013 12:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
If someone else had either hacked you account then it would make sense, but it can not tell who is on the other device. So what would you have it say?
On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:05 PM, DaveC wrote:
I don't understand how it works. I see the warning, I click on it, it says "Everything is OK". How is this of value?
Thanks,
Dave
Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and tupos. (c;
On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> It is a security feature if you are using multiple devices or locations, or had your account hacked. You will find the same thing at Hulu, Facebook or google.
>
> So learn to love it.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
>
> My question is how to get rid of this alert. When I click on it YT says no problems.
>
> (yes I access YT from many locations.)
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my phone.
> Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.
>
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:16 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Do you view YouTube on multiple devices?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:05 PM, DaveC wrote:
I don't understand how it works. I see the warning, I click on it, it says "Everything is OK". How is this of value?
Thanks,
Dave
Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and tupos. (c;
On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.
> It is a security feature if you are using multiple devices or locations, or had your account hacked. You will find the same thing at Hulu, Facebook or google.
>
> So learn to love it.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
>
> My question is how to get rid of this alert. When I click on it YT says no problems.
>
> (yes I access YT from many locations.)
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my phone.
> Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.
>
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:16 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.
>
> Do you view YouTube on multiple devices?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Mon Jul 8, 2013 5:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Barbara,
You will have a long, slow start up any time:
- the Mac is improperly shut down, like holding the power button,
- you start with Option, Command, P & R held down,
- you start in Safe Mode,
(Hell, booting into Safe Mode takes almost 10 to 12 minutes on mine, because it is checking a lot of things before it completes the start up.)
- do a major upgrade of OS or app,
- possible after you use another boot drive,
- and anytime the Mac needs to sort things out before it turns over things to the user.
Short start ups are only if you start to the same boot drive after, a proper shut down. BTW your Mac runs a diagnostics _every_ time it boots up.
My regular routine to start my Mac is to press the power button and go make some coffee. Come back, enter my password, and do something else. Then start using my Mac. And that is after shutting it down properly.
In the restart, after the Option, Command, P & R key are held down, the Mac did not go to sleep, that is part of the start up.
Your regular start-ups might be shorter if you have a SSD as a boot drive or a Fusion drive, but a HD takes time. And all times are relative. Relative to your hardware, your apps, your set up, and how the Mac was last shut down. The more apps you have on your computer, any computer, the longer it takes to boot up. It has to check all the stuff the other apps have installed here and there. You're is relatively new, but how many apps have you installed on it. Closer to ten or closer to a hundred? And how CPU intense is each one? How big a library does each keep and access?
So what are those 10 login items? Let's see if we can speed up the start up a little for you? My list is:
Airport Base Station Agent
Stickies
Activity Monitor (I always have the CPU History window open to alert me to "things".
Hardware Monitor (To watch for overheating.)
SpeechSnythesisServer (I could turn this off.)
CopyPast Pro
Studio TVR Timer (I could get rid of this.)
SMARTReporter (To help monitor the HD health.)
DDAssist (I use a Drobo.)
SurplusMeterAgent (To monitor my monthly data usage, to save historical usage for future comparison.)
ClamXavSentry (I leave this running in the background.)
The items on this list delays when I can start working by about 90 to 120 seconds. Seems longer, but it probably is shorter. You will notice that I do not have any email app or browser in the list, even though they get opened every day. They just slow down the start up. Mail.app takes I guess another 60 to 120 seconds to open and get my mail before it will allow me to use it. The various browsers I use take varying amounts of time to be useable. When I open Bento, it takes closer to 3 minutes to open its library databases. And I have only about a dozen that I have created and they are not all that big.
Sometimes I just need to boot my Mac and get a piece of info, and so I want to limit what it opens that will delay when I can start working. And every app you add to in Login Items or that Restore reopens, slows when you can use the Mac.
If you had PhotoShop or iPhoto in your login items with a large photo library, then you would have to what a relative long time to gain access to your Mac.
So to borrow a phrase, "What's on your list?". (From a local grocery chain.)
I don't ask questions just to hear myself type. SO, what are the items on your list of Login Items?
Believe it or not, I really am trying to help. And sometime that is to just remind us of the basics, and sometimes it is to adjust expectations. But usually it is to help us get the most out of what we already have.
Brent
On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:54 PM, missladybee wrote:
No the keyboard does not work when this happens. I tried the keystrokes you mentioned and they do not work when the cursor is frozen at startup. This method didn't work with either Apple or my other keyboard. Pressing and holding the power button works.
Unplugged
Pressed power button 2x's
Plugged back in
Waited 10 seconds
Restarted
Cursor frozen in place even though programs launched I could do nothing with them
Repeated but at restart held down the Option, Command, P & R
Chimed 2x's
Released
Instead of a cursor it was briefly a spinning beach ball. Then the beach ball quit spinning and stayed that way but I could move it around. During this time nothing worked.
5 minuted later the computer went to sleep. Power Computer sleep and Display sleep are set at NEVER, UPS Computer sleep is set at 10 min Display sleep at 2 min;.
3 minutes later it woke on it's own and the cursor was back and working.
In all it took 8 minutes for the cursor to start working again.
I have 10 Login Items listed in Users & Groups.
Tried Safe Mode. When the login screen came up I was unable to type in the password because the cursor was frozen and keyboard did not work. This made me think it was the keyboard since I don't us an Apple keyboard. I connected up the Apple keyboard but problem stayed the same.
Every time the cursor freezes like this it takes EXACTLY the same amount of time to start working … 8 minutes. Plus this only happens when after the computer has been on for a while and then is restarted. It has NEVER happens when the computer is turned off and then restarted a few hours later.
Any other suggestions?
Barbara
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You will have a long, slow start up any time:
- the Mac is improperly shut down, like holding the power button,
- you start with Option, Command, P & R held down,
- you start in Safe Mode,
(Hell, booting into Safe Mode takes almost 10 to 12 minutes on mine, because it is checking a lot of things before it completes the start up.)
- do a major upgrade of OS or app,
- possible after you use another boot drive,
- and anytime the Mac needs to sort things out before it turns over things to the user.
Short start ups are only if you start to the same boot drive after, a proper shut down. BTW your Mac runs a diagnostics _every_ time it boots up.
My regular routine to start my Mac is to press the power button and go make some coffee. Come back, enter my password, and do something else. Then start using my Mac. And that is after shutting it down properly.
In the restart, after the Option, Command, P & R key are held down, the Mac did not go to sleep, that is part of the start up.
Your regular start-ups might be shorter if you have a SSD as a boot drive or a Fusion drive, but a HD takes time. And all times are relative. Relative to your hardware, your apps, your set up, and how the Mac was last shut down. The more apps you have on your computer, any computer, the longer it takes to boot up. It has to check all the stuff the other apps have installed here and there. You're is relatively new, but how many apps have you installed on it. Closer to ten or closer to a hundred? And how CPU intense is each one? How big a library does each keep and access?
So what are those 10 login items? Let's see if we can speed up the start up a little for you? My list is:
Airport Base Station Agent
Stickies
Activity Monitor (I always have the CPU History window open to alert me to "things"
Hardware Monitor (To watch for overheating.
SpeechSnythesisServ
CopyPast Pro
Studio TVR Timer (I could get rid of this.)
SMARTReporter (To help monitor the HD health.)
DDAssist (I use a Drobo.)
SurplusMeterAgent (To monitor my monthly data usage, to save historical usage for future comparison.)
ClamXavSentry (I leave this running in the background.)
The items on this list delays when I can start working by about 90 to 120 seconds. Seems longer, but it probably is shorter. You will notice that I do not have any email app or browser in the list, even though they get opened every day. They just slow down the start up. Mail.app takes I guess another 60 to 120 seconds to open and get my mail before it will allow me to use it. The various browsers I use take varying amounts of time to be useable. When I open Bento, it takes closer to 3 minutes to open its library databases. And I have only about a dozen that I have created and they are not all that big.
Sometimes I just need to boot my Mac and get a piece of info, and so I want to limit what it opens that will delay when I can start working. And every app you add to in Login Items or that Restore reopens, slows when you can use the Mac.
If you had PhotoShop or iPhoto in your login items with a large photo library, then you would have to what a relative long time to gain access to your Mac.
So to borrow a phrase, "What&#
I don't ask questions just to hear myself type. SO, what are the items on your list of Login Items?
Believe it or not, I really am trying to help. And sometime that is to just remind us of the basics, and sometimes it is to adjust expectations. But usually it is to help us get the most out of what we already have.
Brent
On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:54 PM, missladybee wrote:
No the keyboard does not work when this happens. I tried the keystrokes you mentioned and they do not work when the cursor is frozen at startup. This method didn't work with either Apple or my other keyboard. Pressing and holding the power button works.
Unplugged
Pressed power button 2x's
Plugged back in
Waited 10 seconds
Restarted
Cursor frozen in place even though programs launched I could do nothing with them
Repeated but at restart held down the Option, Command, P & R
Chimed 2x's
Released
Instead of a cursor it was briefly a spinning beach ball. Then the beach ball quit spinning and stayed that way but I could move it around. During this time nothing worked.
5 minuted later the computer went to sleep. Power Computer sleep and Display sleep are set at NEVER, UPS Computer sleep is set at 10 min Display sleep at 2 min;.
3 minutes later it woke on it's own and the cursor was back and working.
In all it took 8 minutes for the cursor to start working again.
I have 10 Login Items listed in Users & Groups.
Tried Safe Mode. When the login screen came up I was unable to type in the password because the cursor was frozen and keyboard did not work. This made me think it was the keyboard since I don't us an Apple keyboard. I connected up the Apple keyboard but problem stayed the same.
Every time the cursor freezes like this it takes EXACTLY the same amount of time to start working … 8 minutes. Plus this only happens when after the computer has been on for a while and then is restarted. It has NEVER happens when the computer is turned off and then restarted a few hours later.
Any other suggestions?
Barbara
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