7/16/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9653

12 New Messages

Digest #9653
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Apple Airport Extreme 2013 by "joan05061" joan05061
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme 2013 by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme 2013 by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme 2013 by "joan05061" joan05061
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme 2013 by "Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme 2013 by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme 2013 by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
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Re: Mail trouble by "PAUL HILL" hlecptr
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sync a Mail folder with dropbox? by "halboye18" halboye18

Messages

Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"joan05061" joan05061

I subscribe to Small Dog Electronics newsletter and recently there was a piece about the new Apple Airport Extreme that is shaped like a tower rather than just flat. I have the older Airport Extreme but I am still having problems with Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house from where my office is and where the computers are located. Has anyone had any experience with this new Airport Extreme and would it be likely to boost my Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house. Our house is all on one floor so there are telephones and a refrigerator that someone told me might interfere with reception. Is that the case?

Joan

Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:01 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I subscribe to Small Dog Electronics newsletter and recently there was a piece about the new Apple Airport Extreme that is shaped like a tower rather than just flat. I have the older Airport Extreme but I am still having problems with Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house from where my office is and where the computers are located. Has anyone had any experience with this new Airport Extreme and would it be likely to boost my Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house. Our house is all on one floor so there are telephones and a refrigerator that someone told me might interfere with reception. Is that the case?
> Joan

The major reason the new one exists is to support 802.11ac, which is in the new Macbook Air's.

I have not seen a review that discussed its performance with the existing older standards.

I have a house that was built around 1890, with plaster walls trowel led onto expanded metal mesh. The Apple Airport Extreme Base Station is a few feet from my laptop in the living room, but I get adequate reception in my bedroom upstairs and in the kitchen, 2 or 3 plaster walls and a brick chimney away.

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

I bought the new Time Capsule that is also tower shaped & with new technology & use my old Extreme as a wireless extender. The range & quality of my signal are much improved versus the old Time Capsule. You might call Apple Support to discuss your specific situation. I did that & found them to be very helpful without trying to sell me more new equipment.

On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:48 AM, joan05061 <jsax@me.com> wrote:

> I subscribe to Small Dog Electronics newsletter and recently there was a piece about the new Apple Airport Extreme that is shaped like a tower rather than just flat. I have the older Airport Extreme but I am still having problems with Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house from where my office is and where the computers are located. Has anyone had any experience with this new Airport Extreme and would it be likely to boost my Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house. Our house is all on one floor so there are telephones and a refrigerator that someone told me might interfere with reception. Is that the case?
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:56 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Physical object can interfere with the distance your WiFi signal, particularly metal objects, but wood and masonry can also block the signal.

Have you tried moving the AEBS, Airport Extreme, closer to the computers, like on the same side of the house as the computers? If not, even moving the AEBS 6 - 12" can make all the difference, if you are able to give it a clear x-ray vision line of site to the computers.

If your current AEBS is dual band, then it can switch to the 5 GHz band to get around most wireless phone interference, if your computers can receive it.

I would give a WAG, wide guess, that the new AEBS has about a 10-20% chance of solving the problem. Adding a Airport Express mid-way, to relay the signal, probably has a better chance.

Without seeing even a rough floor plan, distances, placements of certain items, and knowing the construction of the house, it is nearly impossible to give you firmer guestimates. Since you appear to be in Vermont, drop into Small Dogs, or another Apple dealer with a rough floor plan and specific information about your electronic equipment, for a better estimate. A rough floor plan with estimated distances is good enough. Any good, non-brand prejudiced computer dealer help you with this, if need be, but an Apple dealer will know the Apple products involved better, since your Macs and other equipment.

Brent

On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:48 AM, joan05061 wrote:

I subscribe to Small Dog Electronics newsletter and recently there was a piece about the new Apple Airport Extreme that is shaped like a tower rather than just flat. I have the older Airport Extreme but I am still having problems with Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house from where my office is and where the computers are located. Has anyone had any experience with this new Airport Extreme and would it be likely to boost my Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house. Our house is all on one floor so there are telephones and a refrigerator that someone told me might interfere with reception. Is that the case?

Joan

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"joan05061" joan05061

It is not my desktop computers that have any problems, it's my iPad and iPhones at the other end of the house, (about 75 feet away (the house is all on one floor in a long line) that have a weak signal. If I added an Airport Express, would it have to be connected via a cable to the Airport Extreme? That would mean drilling holes, etc. if so. I'd like to avoid that. I will go into Small Dog with a floor plan and distances and ask their opinion. Thanks for the suggestions.

Joan

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
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> Physical object can interfere with the distance your WiFi signal, particularly metal objects, but wood and masonry can also block the signal.
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> Have you tried moving the AEBS, Airport Extreme, closer to the computers, like on the same side of the house as the computers? If not, even moving the AEBS 6 - 12" can make all the difference, if you are able to give it a clear x-ray vision line of site to the computers.
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> If your current AEBS is dual band, then it can switch to the 5 GHz band to get around most wireless phone interference, if your computers can receive it.
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> I would give a WAG, wide guess, that the new AEBS has about a 10-20% chance of solving the problem. Adding a Airport Express mid-way, to relay the signal, probably has a better chance.
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> Without seeing even a rough floor plan, distances, placements of certain items, and knowing the construction of the house, it is nearly impossible to give you firmer guestimates. Since you appear to be in Vermont, drop into Small Dogs, or another Apple dealer with a rough floor plan and specific information about your electronic equipment, for a better estimate. A rough floor plan with estimated distances is good enough. Any good, non-brand prejudiced computer dealer help you with this, if need be, but an Apple dealer will know the Apple products involved better, since your Macs and other equipment.
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> Brent
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> On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:48 AM, joan05061 wrote:
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> I subscribe to Small Dog Electronics newsletter and recently there was a piece about the new Apple Airport Extreme that is shaped like a tower rather than just flat. I have the older Airport Extreme but I am still having problems with Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house from where my office is and where the computers are located. Has anyone had any experience with this new Airport Extreme and would it be likely to boost my Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house. Our house is all on one floor so there are telephones and a refrigerator that someone told me might interfere with reception. Is that the case?
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz

From what I know, you connect the Extreme by cable to your modem. You connect the Express to the Extreme wirelessly. The Express then becomes the wifi router for the further away areas.

I not sure if you would be running two seperate "wifi&#39;s " or if they join to give you one "wifi" which is actually managed by two wifi routers (Extreme and Express), keen to know more if anyone can expand on this

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From: joan05061 <jsax@me.com>
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] Apple Airport Extreme 2013


 
It is not my desktop computers that have any problems, it's my iPad and iPhones at the other end of the house, (about 75 feet away (the house is all on one floor in a long line) that have a weak signal. If I added an Airport Express, would it have to be connected via a cable to the Airport Extreme? That would mean drilling holes, etc. if so. I'd like to avoid that. I will go into Small Dog with a floor plan and distances and ask their opinion. Thanks for the suggestions.

Joan

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
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> Physical object can interfere with the distance your WiFi signal, particularly metal objects, but wood and masonry can also block the signal.
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> Have you tried moving the AEBS, Airport Extreme, closer to the computers, like on the same side of the house as the computers? If not, even moving the AEBS 6 - 12" can make all the difference, if you are able to give it a clear x-ray vision line of site to the computers.
>
> If your current AEBS is dual band, then it can switch to the 5 GHz band to get around most wireless phone interference, if your computers can receive it.
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> I would give a WAG, wide guess, that the new AEBS has about a 10-20% chance of solving the problem. Adding a Airport Express mid-way, to relay the signal, probably has a better chance.
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> Without seeing even a rough floor plan, distances, placements of certain items, and knowing the construction of the house, it is nearly impossible to give you firmer guestimates. Since you appear to be in Vermont, drop into Small Dogs, or another Apple dealer with a rough floor plan and specific information about your electronic equipment, for a better estimate. A rough floor plan with estimated distances is good enough. Any good, non-brand prejudiced computer dealer help you with this, if need be, but an Apple dealer will know the Apple products involved better, since your Macs and other equipment.
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> Brent
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> On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:48 AM, joan05061 wrote:
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> I subscribe to Small Dog Electronics newsletter and recently there was a piece about the new Apple Airport Extreme that is shaped like a tower rather than just flat. I have the older Airport Extreme but I am still having problems with Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house from where my office is and where the computers are located. Has anyone had any experience with this new Airport Extreme and would it be likely to boost my Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house. Our house is all on one floor so there are telephones and a refrigerator that someone told me might interfere with reception. Is that the case?
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

The Airport Express connects wirelessly & has worked well in my experience.

Sent from my iPad...

On Jul 15, 2013, at 4:12 PM, joan05061 <jsax@me.com> wrote:

> It is not my desktop computers that have any problems, it's my iPad and iPhones at the other end of the house, (about 75 feet away (the house is all on one floor in a long line) that have a weak signal. If I added an Airport Express, would it have to be connected via a cable to the Airport Extreme? That would mean drilling holes, etc. if so. I'd like to avoid that. I will go into Small Dog with a floor plan and distances and ask their opinion. Thanks for the suggestions.
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> Joan
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> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
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> > Physical object can interfere with the distance your WiFi signal, particularly metal objects, but wood and masonry can also block the signal.
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> > Have you tried moving the AEBS, Airport Extreme, closer to the computers, like on the same side of the house as the computers? If not, even moving the AEBS 6 - 12" can make all the difference, if you are able to give it a clear x-ray vision line of site to the computers.
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> > If your current AEBS is dual band, then it can switch to the 5 GHz band to get around most wireless phone interference, if your computers can receive it.
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> > I would give a WAG, wide guess, that the new AEBS has about a 10-20% chance of solving the problem. Adding a Airport Express mid-way, to relay the signal, probably has a better chance.
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> > Without seeing even a rough floor plan, distances, placements of certain items, and knowing the construction of the house, it is nearly impossible to give you firmer guestimates. Since you appear to be in Vermont, drop into Small Dogs, or another Apple dealer with a rough floor plan and specific information about your electronic equipment, for a better estimate. A rough floor plan with estimated distances is good enough. Any good, non-brand prejudiced computer dealer help you with this, if need be, but an Apple dealer will know the Apple products involved better, since your Macs and other equipment.
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

I have a Time Capsule as my base station plus an Express & an Extreme that all combine to extend my one network throughout two large buildings that are a little over 125 feet apart.

Sent from my iPad...

On Jul 15, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Tony <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> From what I know, you connect the Extreme by cable to your modem. You connect the Express to the Extreme wirelessly. The Express then becomes the wifi router for the further away areas.
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> I not sure if you would be running two seperate "wifi&#39;s " or if they join to give you one "wifi" which is actually managed by two wifi routers (Extreme and Express), keen to know more if anyone can expand on this
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> From: joan05061 <jsax@me.com>
> To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [macsupport] Apple Airport Extreme 2013
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> It is not my desktop computers that have any problems, it's my iPad and iPhones at the other end of the house, (about 75 feet away (the house is all on one floor in a long line) that have a weak signal. If I added an Airport Express, would it have to be connected via a cable to the Airport Extreme? That would mean drilling holes, etc. if so. I'd like to avoid that. I will go into Small Dog with a floor plan and distances and ask their opinion. Thanks for the suggestions.
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> Joan
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> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
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> > Physical object can interfere with the distance your WiFi signal, particularly metal objects, but wood and masonry can also block the signal.
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> > Have you tried moving the AEBS, Airport Extreme, closer to the computers, like on the same side of the house as the computers? If not, even moving the AEBS 6 - 12" can make all the difference, if you are able to give it a clear x-ray vision line of site to the computers.
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> > If your current AEBS is dual band, then it can switch to the 5 GHz band to get around most wireless phone interference, if your computers can receive it.
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> > I would give a WAG, wide guess, that the new AEBS has about a 10-20% chance of solving the problem. Adding a Airport Express mid-way, to relay the signal, probably has a better chance.
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> > Without seeing even a rough floor plan, distances, placements of certain items, and knowing the construction of the house, it is nearly impossible to give you firmer guestimates. Since you appear to be in Vermont, drop into Small Dogs, or another Apple dealer with a rough floor plan and specific information about your electronic equipment, for a better estimate. A rough floor plan with estimated distances is good enough. Any good, non-brand prejudiced computer dealer help you with this, if need be, but an Apple dealer will know the Apple products involved better, since your Macs and other equipment.
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> > I subscribe to Small Dog Electronics newsletter and recently there was a piece about the new Apple Airport Extreme that is shaped like a tower rather than just flat. I have the older Airport Extreme but I am still having problems with Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house from where my office is and where the computers are located. Has anyone had any experience with this new Airport Extreme and would it be likely to boost my Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house. Our house is all on one floor so there are telephones and a refrigerator that someone told me might interfere with reception. Is that the case?
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Ditto what Tony and Pat said about an Airport Express.

You did not specify what was at the receiving end and I assumed. Next time be more descriptive.

While you are at Small Dogs, ask them to go over how to connect the two. You might have to temporarily wire them to set up, and I have never done it.

Am I having deja vu, didn't we go over this about a month ago?

Brent

On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:12 PM, joan05061 wrote:

It is not my desktop computers that have any problems, it's my iPad and iPhones at the other end of the house, (about 75 feet away (the house is all on one floor in a long line) that have a weak signal. If I added an Airport Express, would it have to be connected via a cable to the Airport Extreme? That would mean drilling holes, etc. if so. I'd like to avoid that. I will go into Small Dog with a floor plan and distances and ask their opinion. Thanks for the suggestions.

Joan

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
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> Physical object can interfere with the distance your WiFi signal, particularly metal objects, but wood and masonry can also block the signal.
>
> Have you tried moving the AEBS, Airport Extreme, closer to the computers, like on the same side of the house as the computers? If not, even moving the AEBS 6 - 12" can make all the difference, if you are able to give it a clear x-ray vision line of site to the computers.
>
> If your current AEBS is dual band, then it can switch to the 5 GHz band to get around most wireless phone interference, if your computers can receive it.
>
> I would give a WAG, wide guess, that the new AEBS has about a 10-20% chance of solving the problem. Adding a Airport Express mid-way, to relay the signal, probably has a better chance.
>
> Without seeing even a rough floor plan, distances, placements of certain items, and knowing the construction of the house, it is nearly impossible to give you firmer guestimates. Since you appear to be in Vermont, drop into Small Dogs, or another Apple dealer with a rough floor plan and specific information about your electronic equipment, for a better estimate. A rough floor plan with estimated distances is good enough. Any good, non-brand prejudiced computer dealer help you with this, if need be, but an Apple dealer will know the Apple products involved better, since your Macs and other equipment.
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> Brent
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> On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:48 AM, joan05061 wrote:
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> I subscribe to Small Dog Electronics newsletter and recently there was a piece about the new Apple Airport Extreme that is shaped like a tower rather than just flat. I have the older Airport Extreme but I am still having problems with Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house from where my office is and where the computers are located. Has anyone had any experience with this new Airport Extreme and would it be likely to boost my Wi-Fi reception at the other end of the house. Our house is all on one floor so there are telephones and a refrigerator that someone told me might interfere with reception. Is that the case?
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"PAUL HILL" hlecptr


I have no idea why this was happening but the next day, all of my AOL mail appearing in my Ipad and iPhone began appearing again on my desktop even though I did nothing else other than what I mentioned earlier.

Really strange.

Thanks to all who commented.

Paul

Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:"Carol"; floridabouvsI have the same problem, if its Yahoo. I have been on the phone with Apple techs many times. The only thing that works, temporarily, is to delete the account and re-enter it. The Apple tech told me it is a Yahoo problem and to use Gmail instead. Fortunately mine is only a problem with my junk mail account, so I deleted it and read it in my iPad.
Carol

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"halboye18" halboye18

In Mail, I have a folder of emails where I put messages I will want to have when I get home. We spend 3-4 months at a time on the road. So I set up a folder entitled "save for home." Pretty clever, huh?

Is there a way to sync this folder using dropbox? Or is there a better way to save these messages so that when I get home, I can access them on my desktop computer?

I have tried to drag said folder from the Mail window to the Dropbox icon ... doesn't work.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have, hal

hal horwitz

hal.horwitz@comcast.net

Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:05 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

I have not done it, but I believe if you create the folders and the rules in iCloud, and then sync with your Macs and iDevices. When you start up the Mac at home, it should sync and voila!

If you are on a list with William Lane, I believe he does that, and for pretty much the same reason as you. Or maybe someone hear is doing that. Sorry I can not give you more help. I just take my laptop along when I travel.

Brent.

On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:41 PM, halboye18 wrote:

In Mail, I have a folder of emails where I put messages I will want to have when I get home. We spend 3-4 months at a time on the road. So I set up a folder entitled "save for home." Pretty clever, huh?

Is there a way to sync this folder using dropbox? Or is there a better way to save these messages so that when I get home, I can access them on my desktop computer?

I have tried to drag said folder from the Mail window to the Dropbox icon ... doesn't work.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have, hal

hal horwitz

hal.horwitz@comcast.net

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