7/19/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9661

Mac Support Central

15 New Messages

Digest #9661
1a
iCloud sync-time by "ennisart" ennisart
1b
Re: iCloud sync-time by "Forrest Leedy" forrkazu
1c
Re: iCloud sync-time by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: iCloud sync-time by "N.A. Nada"
2a
Re: Adobe updates - by "Bekah" bekalex
2b
Re: Adobe updates - by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: iWork by "redhillsranger" jsm5320432
3.2
Re: iWork by "bob morin" rbmorin2002
3.3
Re: iWork by "N.A. Nada"
3.4
Re: iWork by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
3.5
Re: iWork by "bob morin" rbmorin2002
3.6
Re: iWork by "bob morin" rbmorin2002
3.7
Re: iWork by "N.A. Nada"
3.8
Re: iWork by "N.A. Nada"
3.9
Re: iWork by "bob morin" rbmorin2002

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Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:12 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"ennisart" ennisart

After updating or adding a contact on my iMac, I would to see the new information instantly updated on the iCloud and my iPhone. How do I make that happen? Clicking the Sync button doesn't do it.

Thanks.

John

iPhone 4, iOS 6.1.3
iMac OS 10.8.4

Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Forrest Leedy" forrkazu

If both devices are using iCloud and you have selected on both devices to have your address book synced, then it should work as it does on all the computers, iPod, iPad and iPhone that I have.

Forrest

On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:12 AM, "ennisart"; <john@john-ennis.com> wrote:

> After updating or adding a contact on my iMac, I would to see the new information instantly updated on the iCloud and my iPhone. How do I make that happen? Clicking the Sync button doesn't do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
> iPhone 4, iOS 6.1.3
> iMac OS 10.8.4
>

Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

John,

You said sync button, if you are syncing contacts by iTunes. You have to turn on syncing with iCloud. You should only have one sync method on at a time, otherwise you get duplicates from hell.

Turn off the syncing to iTunes first and then turn on syncing with iCloud.

I will get back shortly when I remember how. It has been so long I forgot how.

Brent

On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Forrest Leedy wrote:

If both devices are using iCloud and you have selected on both devices to have your address book synced, then it should work as it does on all the computers, iPod, iPad and iPhone that I have.

Forrest

On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:12 AM, "ennisart"; <john@john-ennis.com> wrote:

> After updating or adding a contact on my iMac, I would to see the new information instantly updated on the iCloud and my iPhone. How do I make that happen? Clicking the Sync button doesn't do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
> iPhone 4, iOS 6.1.3
> iMac OS 10.8.4
>

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Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Basically you have to go into the settings on each device, and turn it on. Just remember if you sync by iTunes __and__ iCloud you will end up in duplicate hell.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1296 should get you started.

On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:48 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:

John,

You said sync button, if you are syncing contacts by iTunes. You have to turn on syncing with iCloud. You should only have one sync method on at a time, otherwise you get duplicates from hell.

Turn off the syncing to iTunes first and then turn on syncing with iCloud.

I will get back shortly when I remember how. It has been so long I forgot how.

Brent

On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Forrest Leedy wrote:

If both devices are using iCloud and you have selected on both devices to have your address book synced, then it should work as it does on all the computers, iPod, iPad and iPhone that I have.

Forrest

On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:12 AM, "ennisart"; <john@john-ennis.com> wrote:

> After updating or adding a contact on my iMac, I would to see the new information instantly updated on the iCloud and my iPhone. How do I make that happen? Clicking the Sync button doesn't do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
> iPhone 4, iOS 6.1.3
> iMac OS 10.8.4
>

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Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:13 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bekah" bekalex

Thank you - worked like a champ. I have no idea if I need Adobe Flash or not but … at least it's available and updated, etc.

Bekah

On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:35 PM, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.com> wrote:

>
> On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Doris wrote:
>
>> Is Adobe Flash Player a necessary app?
>
> At one time just about any and all animation you saw on a Web page required Flash to view.
>
> Flash is still important to have, and I wouldn't, at this time, want to be without it. However, if you have an iPad and do much Web surfing with it you will note (as the iPad doesn't nominally support Flash) that fewer and fewer Web sites now require Flash. Even YouTube doesn't require it anymore. Animation is now a built-in part of the HTML standard.
>
> Flash is perfectly safe on your Mac as long as you are extremely careful about where you get updates from. I recommend only getting them from the Adobe Web site. Do this:
>
> Uninstall the copy of Flash that you have installed with this uninstaller (Adobe recommends doing this first):
> <http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player_osx.dmg>
> or
> http://is.gd/lrnKUG
>
> Then download the latest version of Flash directly from Adobe, and install it:
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>
> If you have any concerns that you don't have the latest version of Flash at any point in the future, don't click on any dialog boxes that pop-up on your screen. Instead just check at:
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
> to see if the version number currently available is higher than the version that you have. Or, you could just re-follow the routine that I suggested above. It only takes a couple of minutes. Re-installing the version of Flash that you already have won't hurt anything.
>
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Try each substitution in the sentence and use the one that make the most sense to the thread.

BTW. I believe the person who asked about the typo is a moderator, so I would guess he is a regular.

Brent

On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Kenneth Silva wrote:

What about non-regulars. Have we determined that it's fillable or tileable or something else. I'd like to know.
Ken S.

On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:48 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> I thought we were talking farming, and tillable made sense.
>
> Every regular on this list should be able to read typo by now.

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Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"redhillsranger" jsm5320432

Unfortunately, a great number of people (and a lot of territory) out there are not located where hi-speed internet is available. Things such as terrain, sparse population and very old and unmaintained overhead phone lines (combined with no cell service) make the concept of doing all things from the cloud, more of a urban option than for most of rural areas.

Maybe this will change in a few years, but it's not there yet.

John

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, bob morin <rbmorin11@...> wrote:
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> Few weeks ago there was some discussion here on whether the iWork programs will work on the upcoming Maverick OS. Yesterday I got an email from Apple that I have been invited to view and use iWork programs on my iCloud site - just log in. So I did and sure enough there were icons for pages, numbers and keynote. Clicking on pages opens the program and I could initiate a new document - all of this within safari. I could save in different formats and could send e mail directly from the site. I haven't been a fan of iCloud but guess I will have to investigate it - guess it is the future.
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> bob
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"bob morin" rbmorin2002


On Jul 19, 2013, at 10:23 AM, redhillsranger <jsm5320432@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, a great number of people (and a lot of territory) out there are not located where hi-speed internet is available. Things such as terrain, sparse population and very old and unmaintained overhead phone lines (combined with no cell service) make the concept of doing all things from the cloud, more of a urban option than for most of rural areas.
>
> Maybe this will change in a few years, but it's not there yet.
>

This and other thoughts have not made me a fan of doing things on the cloud and relying on the cloud.

bob

bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com

Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

And that does not mean that it will be web or cloud only. It just means that it will have a cloud version.

There are lots of reasons why to keep the computer based version. For example, for work I am often in locations with no internet so cloud-base only apps are useless to me.

Bob, let us know what you think of the cloud version, and be sure to give Apple any good or bad feedback..

Brent

On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:36 AM, bob morin wrote:

Few weeks ago there was some discussion here on whether the iWork programs will work on the upcoming Maverick OS. Yesterday I got an email from Apple that I have been invited to view and use iWork programs on my iCloud site - just log in. So I did and sure enough there were icons for pages, numbers and keynote. Clicking on pages opens the program and I could initiate a new document - all of this within safari. I could save in different formats and could send e mail directly from the site. I haven't been a fan of iCloud but guess I will have to investigate it - guess it is the future.

bob

bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com

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Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

I also received an invitation today & will report as appropriate. I only had time to briefly open each module of the suite, but my initial impression is that Numbers is much faster versus my locally stored program.

Sent from my iPad...

On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:17 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> And that does not mean that it will be web or cloud only. It just means that it will have a cloud version.
>
> There are lots of reasons why to keep the computer based version. For example, for work I am often in locations with no internet so cloud-base only apps are useless to me.
>
> Bob, let us know what you think of the cloud version, and be sure to give Apple any good or bad feedback..
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:36 AM, bob morin wrote:
>
> Few weeks ago there was some discussion here on whether the iWork programs will work on the upcoming Maverick OS. Yesterday I got an email from Apple that I have been invited to view and use iWork programs on my iCloud site - just log in. So I did and sure enough there were icons for pages, numbers and keynote. Clicking on pages opens the program and I could initiate a new document - all of this within safari. I could save in different formats and could send e mail directly from the site. I haven't been a fan of iCloud but guess I will have to investigate it - guess it is the future.
>
> bob
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> bob morin
> rbmorin11@gmail.com
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:24 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"bob morin" rbmorin2002


On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:17 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> Bob, let us know what you think of the cloud version, and be sure to give Apple any good or bad feedback..
>

Will do but since being retired I don't use these programs very much these days. I liked the ability to send document directly by e mail but later noticed one can do the same in the stand alone pages program.

The iCloud version seems to work nicely and conveniently.

bob

bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com

Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"bob morin" rbmorin2002


On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:17 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> And that does not mean that it will be web or cloud only. It just means that it will have a cloud version.
>
> There are lots of reasons why to keep the computer based version. For example, for work I am often in locations with no internet so cloud-base only apps are useless to me.
>
> Bob, let us know what you think of the cloud version, and be sure to give Apple any good or bad feedback..
>

As I mentioned I don't use these programs now so much to create new documents but to open and read similar documents that I receive from the net. I don't see how having the iCloud based programs one can do this.

bob

bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com

Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Put your budget into Numbers, that should give you a fair impression to start.

On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:24 AM, bob morin wrote:

On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:17 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> Bob, let us know what you think of the cloud version, and be sure to give Apple any good or bad feedback..
>

Will do but since being retired I don't use these programs very much these days. I liked the ability to send document directly by e mail but later noticed one can do the same in the stand alone pages program.

The iCloud version seems to work nicely and conveniently.

bob

bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com

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Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:03 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

That is fair.

It is funny that no one has mentions that Apple previously had iWorks on iCloud before, but only in beta, and they closed it about a year ago.

On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:48 AM, bob morin wrote:

On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:17 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> And that does not mean that it will be web or cloud only. It just means that it will have a cloud version.
>
> There are lots of reasons why to keep the computer based version. For example, for work I am often in locations with no internet so cloud-base only apps are useless to me.
>
> Bob, let us know what you think of the cloud version, and be sure to give Apple any good or bad feedback..
>

As I mentioned I don't use these programs now so much to create new documents but to open and read similar documents that I receive from the net. I don't see how having the iCloud based programs one can do this.

bob

bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com

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Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"bob morin" rbmorin2002


On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:03 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> That is fair.
>
> It is funny that no one has mentions that Apple previously had iWorks on iCloud before, but only in beta, and they closed it about a year ago.
>

This is still beta.

I suppose that one can open email attachments with the cloud programs by dragging the attachment icon to desktop, open the relevant cloud program and drag the desktop icon into the opened program. Much less convenient.

bob

bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com