6/02/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8925

Messages In This Digest (23 Messages)

1a.
Apple releases an iOS Security Guide pdf From: Denver Dan
1b.
Re: Apple releases an iOS Security Guide pdf From: Bill B.
2a.
Re: Windows 7 on iMac From: Tight Guy
2b.
Re: Windows 7 on iMac From: Jeff
2c.
Re: Windows 7 on iMac From: James Robertson
3a.
Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms From: Tight Guy
3b.
Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms From: Louie P. (Pete) Nalda
3c.
Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms From: keith_w @dslextreme.com
3d.
Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms From: Daly Jessup
4a.
Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: Bill B.
4b.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: N.A. Nada
4c.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: N.A. Nada
4d.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: N.A. Nada
4e.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: Bill B.
4f.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: Dane Reugger
4g.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: N.A. Nada
4h.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: Daly Jessup
4i.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: Jim Saklad
4j.
Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons? From: Dane Robison
5.1.
Re: thumbnails too small From: Kitty
5.2.
Re: thumbnails too small From: Kitty
6a.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: Otto Nikolaus
7.
Jambox by Jawbone Wireless Speaker From: Michael Moloney

Messages

1a.

Apple releases an iOS Security Guide pdf

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Fri Jun 1, 2012 7:11 am (PDT)



Howdy.

Apple has released a PDF file that is an iOS security guide.

I've found this PDF file via both Google and Yahoo searches and it can
be downloaded.

I've looked on Apple's Main (USA) web site and also the App Store and
can't find the guide.

Search on "iOS Security Guide" and you should be able to download it.

Denver Dan

1b.

Re: Apple releases an iOS Security Guide pdf

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Fri Jun 1, 2012 9:13 am (PDT)



At 10:11 AM -0400 6/1/12, Denver Dan wrote:
>Apple has released a PDF file that is an iOS security guide.
>
>I've found this PDF file via both Google and Yahoo searches and it can
>be downloaded.
>
>I've looked on Apple's Main (USA) web site and also the App Store and
>can't find the guide.
>
>Search on "iOS Security Guide" and you should be able to download it.

Link: <http://images.apple.com/ipad/business/docs/iOS_Security_May12.pdf>

Bill

2a.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "Tight Guy" jcrowe@jcrowe.net   jcrowe1950

Fri Jun 1, 2012 8:23 am (PDT)



Hi Jeff, Harry et al,

--- Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
> On 5/31/2012 8:21 AM, Jeff wrote:
> > On the flipside, there's Home Premium and Professional which have
very little difference between the two...
> > So what's truly the difference between Home Premium and Pro??
Networking ability or something?
> > I've been leaning toward Pro since this is in support of my
freelance design business...but if Home Premium would work...

I faced the same decision for a homebrew PC I was upgrading. For me
the deciding factor was XP compatability mode. I have a number of
programs
that run under XP that I have no reason to upgrade. It's a situation
roughly analogous
to keeping Snow Leopard around so I can run Canvas 9 and other programs
under Rosetta.

> This might hold some answers for you:
>
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/compare
>
> I know that the Home Basic edition does not support much networking.
>
> You can read about all of the features and differences at the above
site.

Good point...nothing like going to the source for valid comparisons.
BTW,
a retail box is going to cost you ~$225 at best...but an OEM version can
be
had for less than $100. In installing multiple OSs under Lion, I
discovered
that Lion's Bootcamp expects to install Windows 7.....another black mark
against Lion IMO. [:(]
>
> Harry

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2b.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "Jeff" jbturof@yahoo.com   jbturof

Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:20 am (PDT)




The machine will be at home, yes, but potential clients and/or my full time job may require that I access the corporate network. My original question wasn't really directed at whether I wanted Home or Pro anyway....it was more aimed at the 3 or 4 different types of installations there are. I know I don't need the upgrade so the question remained between OEM Builder edition and the full edition. I've now narrowed it down to wanting the full edition in case I ever decide to load it on another PC/Mac.
As far as my decision on Pro goes...I just want to make sure I'm covered if I need to do something that requires me to have a solid, secure network connection. I don't need to depend on XP at all. The PC I have at home is running 7 and my workstation at my job is running 7.
Is this the best solution???? I don't know for sure...like I said...I know next to nothing about how Windows works...but it sounds like it's what I need to do.

Thanks.

Jeff

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
>
>
> On May 31, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Jeff wrote:
>
> > It sounds like I'm best to go with the full version of Pro.
>
> I'm curious why you decided thus.
>
> Isn't the machine to be used at home? If so, you won't be joining a domain.
> Do you need Windows XP compatibility mode? (I don't, so when I made my own decision that wasn't included in my matrix).
>
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
>

2c.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Fri Jun 1, 2012 5:25 pm (PDT)




On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Jeff wrote:

> Is this the best solution???? I don't know for sure...like I said...I know next to nothing about how Windows works...but it sounds like it's what I need to do.

Not knowing what you do at work, it's hard for me to say, but unless your virtual Windows computer is to be a client node controlled by the server at work (which I think would require VPN networking), you can "connect" to the server via Outlook Web Access or Outlook Anywhere (accessing your mail, contacts, and calendar either via a web browser or by running the native Outlook Client) with an Exchange 2007 or more recent Exchange Server. So, I think you'll still save a bit of money by buying a Windows Home Premium OS.

Jim Robertson

3a.

Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Posted by: "Tight Guy" jcrowe@jcrowe.net   jcrowe1950

Fri Jun 1, 2012 8:33 am (PDT)




--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open
its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with
their internals.
> >
> > BB
>
> Yeah.
> >
> Woz has been pretty irrelevant for 30-35 years now....

Without getting into a pissing contest, did you read the article?
The points
made concern me as a longtime Apple user (starting in 1980 before the
Mac).
Apple wants Mac users to only buy apps through the app store. That
simply
does not work for me. Mountain Lion will strongly discourage software
purchases
outside the app store and the trend is towards prohibition. Apple's
direction is
looking more and more Microsoft like every year. [:(] Good to have
access to
alternatives though....
>

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3b.

Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Posted by: "Louie P. (Pete) Nalda" lpnalda@gmail.com   lpnalda

Fri Jun 1, 2012 9:40 am (PDT)



While I understand the ideas Woz puts forth, I don't think os modificationshould be allowed, as once it starts, entities like carriers can modify, and then you have fragmentation. After using an Android phone, I'm so glad iOS is locked down tighter.

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On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:33 AM, "Tight Guy" <jcrowe@jcrowe.net> wrote:

>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open
> its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with
> their internals.
>>>
>>> BB
>>
>> Yeah.
>>>
>> Woz has been pretty irrelevant for 30-35 years now....
>
> Without getting into a pissing contest, did you read the article?
> The points
> made concern me as a longtime Apple user (starting in 1980 before the
> Mac).
> Apple wants Mac users to only buy apps through the app store. That
> simply
> does not work for me. Mountain Lion will strongly discourage software
> purchases
> outside the app store and the trend is towards prohibition. Apple's
> direction is
> looking more and more Microsoft like every year. [:(] Good to have
> access to
> alternatives though....
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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3c.

Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Posted by: "keith_w @dslextreme.com" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:09 am (PDT)



No contention intended, Jim.
I'm just over half way thru the Steve Jobs book, and as an owner of Macs
since 1986, I feel I know much about them. That and reading the biography.
I have a MUCH better insight into Jobs, Wozniak and the currelt CEO or COO,
whatever he is.
I now have a slightly deeper insight to how Apple and it's movers and
shakers think.

It's obvious you and I have different end points, but there is no rancor on
my part. I'm just commenting on how I feel at the moment. Adding in the
most recent insight I have and what occurs to me along the way...

keith whaley

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Tight Guy <jcrowe@jcrowe.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open
> its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with
> their internals.
> > >
> > > BB
> >
> > Yeah.
> > >
> > Woz has been pretty irrelevant for 30-35 years now....
>
> Without getting into a pissing contest, did you read the article?
> The points
> made concern me as a longtime Apple user (starting in 1980 before the
> Mac).
> Apple wants Mac users to only buy apps through the app store. That
> simply
> does not work for me. Mountain Lion will strongly discourage software
> purchases
> outside the app store and the trend is towards prohibition. Apple's
> direction is
> looking more and more Microsoft like every year. [:(] Good to have
> access to
> alternatives though....
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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3d.

Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Fri Jun 1, 2012 6:20 pm (PDT)




On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Tight Guy wrote:
>
> Without getting into a pissing contest, did you read the article?
> The points
> made concern me as a longtime Apple user (starting in 1980 before the
> Mac).
> Apple wants Mac users to only buy apps through the app store. That
> simply
> does not work for me. Mountain Lion will strongly discourage software
> purchases
> outside the app store and the trend is towards prohibition. Apple's
> direction is
> looking more and more Microsoft like every year. [:(] Good to have
> access to
> alternatives though....

For anyone who has an hour to spare, a friend sent me this link to a speech that is very relevant to all this. I found the guy vaguely unpleasant, but what he says is quite powerful. The lecture is called Innovation in Austerity, and was given by Columbia law professor Eben Moglen

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2VHf5vpBy8&feature=youtube_gdata_player>

Daly

4a.

Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:34 am (PDT)



Infoworld noticed the Electronic Frontier Foundation's rant bout Apple's OSes and has an article, I find more interesting. BTW, Apple OS as a closed system has been discussed for at least 2 decades. See

<http://www.infoworld.com/t/mac-os-x/apples-operating-systems-fortresses-or-prisons-194412>

Bill

4b.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:52 pm (PDT)



Bill,

You posted a similar article on another list, and got dog piled on.

Most Mac users like the "walled garden" Apple has created. Fewer security issues.

You posted:

> Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their internals.
>
> BB

And another list member commented:

Yeah.
>
Woz has been pretty irrelevant for 30-35 years now....

Pretty much summed it up, other than to say that there are other platforms that are open, you are free to use them if you want.

Brent

On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bill B. wrote:

Infoworld noticed the Electronic Frontier Foundation's rant bout Apple's OSes and has an article, I find more interesting. BTW, Apple OS as a closed system has been discussed for at least 2 decades. See

<http://www.infoworld.com/t/mac-os-x/apples-operating-systems-fortresses-or-prisons-194412>

4c.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri Jun 1, 2012 1:07 pm (PDT)



My apologies, this went to the wrong list.

On Jun 1, 2012, at 12:52 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

Bill,

You posted a similar article on another list, and got dog piled on.

Most Mac users like the "walled garden" Apple has created. Fewer security issues.

You posted:

> Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their internals.
>
> BB

And another list member commented:

Yeah.
>
Woz has been pretty irrelevant for 30-35 years now....

Pretty much summed it up, other than to say that there are other platforms that are open, you are free to use them if you want.

Brent

On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bill B. wrote:

Infoworld noticed the Electronic Frontier Foundation's rant bout Apple's OSes and has an article, I find more interesting. BTW, Apple OS as a closed system has been discussed for at least 2 decades. See

<http://www.infoworld.com/t/mac-os-x/apples-operating-systems-fortresses-or-prisons-194412>

4d.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri Jun 1, 2012 1:20 pm (PDT)



Bill,

You posted a similar article on another list, and got dog piled on. Nothing wrong with voicing a different opinion, but you are sharing this with the wrong crowd. Ahh! You crossed posted this to 4 Apple related lists. You sure know how to make friends.

Most Mac users like the "walled garden" Apple has created. Fewer security issues.

You posted:

> Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their internals.
>
> BB

And another list member commented:

Yeah.
>
Woz has been pretty irrelevant for 30-35 years now....

Pretty much summed it up, other than to say that there are other platforms that are open, you are free to use them if you want.

Brent

On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bill B. wrote:

Infoworld noticed the Electronic Frontier Foundation's rant bout Apple's OSes and has an article, I find more interesting. BTW, Apple OS as a closed system has been discussed for at least 2 decades. See

<http://www.infoworld.com/t/mac-os-x/apples-operating-systems-fortresses-or-prisons-194412>

Bill

4e.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Fri Jun 1, 2012 3:07 pm (PDT)



At 12:52 PM -0700 6/1/12, N.A. Nada wrote:
>You posted a similar article on another list, and got dog piled on.
>
>Most Mac users like the "walled garden" Apple has created. Fewer security issues.

Not really. This article discusses the other article. I've been an Apple fanboy since 1984. I've never had to use a PC. But, I do not like the direction Apple is going in its OSes and app stores. They are becoming too fascist for my needs. In fact I bought 3 MBPros 8,3 i7 quads so I could continue to use Snow Leopard since it is a lot more open and I can still use Eudora. I do not like Lion. It is too closed. If security ever becomes a problem, I will re-evaluate. But at this time phishing is the only thing I feel I need to worry about. And that is up to me.

You say, "Most Mac users like the "walled garden" Apple has created." Do you have evidence ot back up that statement.

BB

4f.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "Dane Reugger" dane@downtownpc.com   dar2112

Fri Jun 1, 2012 3:36 pm (PDT)



FWIW - I'm with Bill. I don't like what Apple or Microsoft are doing. I
think it's both limiting and anti-competitive. I don't want to be limited
to the App store and I don't want Microsoft telling me I cant install
Firefox on my Win 8 tablet.

I don't think saying so it anti Mac (or anti Microsoft) - I'm neither -
it's just my opinion about the direct the companies are taking. Others
might or might not share my opinion.

-Dane

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Bill B. <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:

> o I could continue to use Snow Leopard since it is a lot more open and I
> can still use Eudora. I do not like Lion. It is too closed. If security
> ever becomes a problem, I will re-evaluate. But at this time phishing is
> the only thing I feel I need to worry about. And that is up to me.
>
> You say, "Most Mac users like the "walled garden" Apple has created." Do
> you have evidence ot back up that statement.
>

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4g.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri Jun 1, 2012 5:54 pm (PDT)



Bill,

I am not happy with the direction Apple is taking with simplifying the OS more like iOS. I think lack of user settings is a very big mistake. It might be great for the casual user or the switcher, but not for the advanced user, like you find on these lists.

I'm just as upset, maybe more than when they first rolled out OS X, but now I am very happy with OS X.

But the choice of words that you and the articles use are not helping your case. Fascism, prisons, and fortresses have nothing to do with what is happening. They are strong words invoking meanings you don't want, and will not evoke much sympathy for your cause.

You're not screaming, but tone it down some, and maybe more will join in on the conversation. But your best bet for changes is to send in specific feedback to Apple. Feedback about facts not rumors or speculation.

And you have done what you can to freeze time by buying 3 MBPs. But the rest of us want things to continue to develop. Eventually, you will have to move forward.

Brent

On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Bill B. wrote:

At 12:52 PM -0700 6/1/12, N.A. Nada wrote:
>You posted a similar article on another list, and got dog piled on.
>
>Most Mac users like the "walled garden" Apple has created. Fewer security issues.

Not really. This article discusses the other article. I've been an Apple fanboy since 1984. I've never had to use a PC. But, I do not like the direction Apple is going in its OSes and app stores. They are becoming too fascist for my needs. In fact I bought 3 MBPros 8,3 i7 quads so I could continue to use Snow Leopard since it is a lot more open and I can still use Eudora. I do not like Lion. It is too closed. If security ever becomes a problem, I will re-evaluate. But at this time phishing is the only thing I feel I need to worry about. And that is up to me.

You say, "Most Mac users like the "walled garden" Apple has created." Do you have evidence ot back up that statement.

BB

4h.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Fri Jun 1, 2012 7:30 pm (PDT)




On Jun 1, 2012, at 5:54 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I am not happy with the direction Apple is taking with simplifying the OS more like iOS. I think lack of user settings is a very big mistake. It might be great for the casual user or the switcher, but not for the advanced user, like you find on these lists.
>
> I'm just as upset, maybe more than when they first rolled out OS X, but now I am very happy with OS X.
>
> But the choice of words that you and the articles use are not helping your case. Fascism, prisons, and fortresses have nothing to do with what is happening. They are strong words invoking meanings you don't want, and will not evoke much sympathy for your cause.
>
> You're not screaming, but tone it down some, and maybe more will join in on the conversation. But your best bet for changes is to send in specific feedback to Apple. Feedback about facts not rumors or speculation.
>
> And you have done what you can to freeze time by buying 3 MBPs. But the rest of us want things to continue to develop. Eventually, you will have to move forward.

IF it's "forward." I feel it's backwards, to some degree. Lion is glossier, more automatic, and much much more intrusive to me, who am just trying to get my work done, not figure out the next thing that has been automated for me or hidden from me.

I used to love my Macs because I could just get down to work. Now it's always springing something at me. And graying out the icons. And, well, I'm too tired to sit and write an article about it now. But I feel my computer is intruding on my life and hampering me in ways I never felt before Lion. And this business about having to buy so many things from the App Store is irritating to me, and the stupid things like "Top Sites" in Safari, and "Cover Flow" in the Finder (does ANYone use that?) are so confusing to newer users.

On several occasions I've been showing someone their bookmarks in Safari, and they have responded to the effect of, "What's THAT????"

Who thinks up this stuff, anyway!?

Daly
4i.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Jun 1, 2012 8:07 pm (PDT)



>> Eventually, you will have to move forward.
>
> IF it's "forward." I feel it's backwards, to some degree. Lion is glossier, more automatic, and much much more intrusive to me, who am just trying to get my work done, not figure out the next thing that has been automated for me or hidden from me.

*My* experience with Lion is that there's extremely little that "gets in my way"; and a number of aspects that smooth my path.

> I used to love my Macs because I could just get down to work. Now it's always springing something at me.

What does it "spring at you"?

> And graying out the icons.

Graying out what icons, when?

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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4j.

Re: Apple's operating systems: Fortresses or prisons?

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:43 pm (PDT)



On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> I used to love my Macs because I could just get down to work. Now it's always springing something at me.
>
> What does it "spring at you"?
>
>> And graying out the icons.
>
> Graying out what icons, when?

While I can appreciate your wanting to know more about Daly's specific objections, Jim, let's note that she's not asking for help with anything. Rather, she's more or less generally complaining that it doesn't feel right. And in the UX world, that which doesn't feel right *isn't* right.

Dane
5.1.

Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "Kitty" kquen2008@yahoo.com   kquen2008

Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:42 am (PDT)



So many of you to thank or respond to...

First off, in addition to the riggers of life away from my computer, I've spent many hours trying to follow and then UNfollow all the conflicting advise I've gotten here. And for the record, right or wrong, good or bad, I truly do appreciate all the help that's been offered to me. I don't, however, appreciate being taken out of context or blatantly misquoted. I especially appreciate all the time that Bekah and Ann put into trying to help me. But in the end, it seems my biggest problem is my "vintage' (according to Apple) computer.

I should have asked how to "export" photos from iPhoto to a desk-top folder...if that's what you meant to suggest. I only know how to drag them there. Kitty

On May 28, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Kitty wrote:

> I just enlarged and dragged five photos to a new desk-top folder then tried to
email them to myself even tho they were still too small in thew folder. After 20
minutes of w.a.i.t.i.n.g, I aborted them and tried mailing just one to myself. But
again they're just too small!
>
> How do you import photos?

I think dragging them might be part of the problem. Try actually "export" if
you have that option.

To "export"
Go to iPhoto and click on a thumbnail there. Then from the top menu choose
File > Export ... and choose your "Kind" (.jpg) ?, Quality (medium?), Size
(full, large, medium, small, custom) and any other option. Click "Export."
A new menu will come up which asks the destination - choose the new folder you
set up (so you can find it and identify it).

To "import:"
If you have a picture on your desktop or in a folder but NOT in iPhoto, you can
open iPhoto and use File > Import to Library. Then a screen will show up to ask
which photo. I don't know if your version of iPhoto has this but that's the
way I do it.

***
Bekah

On 25.05.2012, at 00:05, Kitty wrote:

>
>
> Creating an email, I want to attach a photo. So I hit the words "ad
attachment" on the Yahoo email window. The browser opens with places to choose
up to 5 photos. I hit the first spot which opens to desk-top options where I
have various named folders of photos to choose from. I open a folder but the
photos in it are so small.....

If you still insist on using the Yahoo webmail service then enlarging the
thumbnails before you send photos shouldn't be any problem at all, contrary to
what people here on the list have been telling you. In fact you have several
options to choose from to accomplish this task. I am using OS 10.7.4, but I
think this works basically the same in Tiger (v. 10.4.11).

You use iPhoto to store your photos. Right?

OPTION 1

1) Open your Yahoo mail. It should look something like this (screenshot no. 1).

http://minus.com/mDZTyu3DS/

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As you can see two emails are flagged, which means this option is still offered
by Yahoo, contrary to what you said in an earlier email.

2) Now click the "Compose Message" button. What you should see is shown on
screenshot no. 2.

3) Press the "Attach Files" button and navigate to MEDIA (in the left lower
corner of the Sidebar) and select "Photos". You will see the photos you have in
iPhoto, large enough to pick and insert them into your Yahoo mail by clicking on
the "Open" button. See screenshot no. 3 (with written instructions).

If this MEDIA-Option, as I call it, is not available in OS 10.4.11 then go to

OPTION 2

1) Open iPhoto; choose the photos you want to send
2) Create a folder on the Desktop and give it a meaningful name (I called my
folder "Kitty").
3) Export the photos from iPhoto and place them into this folder.
4) Open your Yahoo mail.
5) Click the "Compose Message" button and then the "Attach files" button
6) Navigate to the folder into which you previously put your photos
7) What you now see might look like screenshot no. 4

The thumbnails are far too small, aren't they? That's because they are small in
Finder (I made it deliberately that way for the sake of this demonstration). In
order to *enlarge* the thumbnails you do this:

A) Open the folder in Finder (in our example the "Kitty" folder) and follow the
instruction on screenshot no. 5.

B) Now go back to Yahoo mail, press the "Attach files" button and you will see
that the thumbnails are now much BIGGER (see screenshot no. 6).

You can also use the Cover Flow option which brings us to

OPTION 3

a) Follow the instruction on screenshot no. 7

b) This will give you huge thumbnails! See screenshot no. 8

And now, after you have successfully sent photos of your beloved little animals,
you can – or rather should – delete the folder you created on the Desktop. The
originals are in iPhoto and we don't want to clutter our hard disks with
duplicates, do we?

Was this helpful?

Anna Larson
OS X 10.7.4
MacBook Pro 17''

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Bekah <bekah0176@...> wrote:
>
> Kitty, I think you can NOT enlarge the photos from the folder. That's the size they are in the folder and that's what you're going to get.
>
> Try a new photo directly from iPhoto by exporting it (not dragging) in the size you want and into a new folder. Then go to your Yahoo mail and try to upload that one - easy to find if you have a new folder with one photo in it - do it to see what you can do - mail it to yourself if you want to as a practice shot.
>
> Then if it works you can "export" the photos you want this time from iPhoto (and you might title them so you know which is which) in a column folder display.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Bekah
>
>
> On May 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Kitty wrote:
>
> > scroll down for integrated replies...
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Kitty,
> >>
> >> ... in your first post when you stated you were asking the question here because you were "too lazy to look" elsewhere -- actual quote, perhaps intended lightly, but...
> >
> > My exact words on my first message #143635:
> >
> > <quote> This may have already been addressed but I'm too lazy to look and wouldn't know what to even look for in the archives anyway. How do you enlarge the thumbnails in iPhoto so you can see what you're trying to send / share? <unquote>
> >
> > I don't see anything unclear about my above, original question.
> >
> >> ... I still don't understand your basic question, I logged on to the group's website to re-read the entire thread (you said you don't know how to search the forum, but a large percentage of posts to the group (including many on this thread) contain single-click links to tell you exactly how to do just that.
> >
> > I never said I don't know how to search the forum (archives). I said I wouldn't know what to look for (subject). Your making it more complicated than need be.
> >
> >> Many of your respondents tried to infer what email client you were using (none, as it turns out), and where you were storing the photos you wanted to attach to emails (an ancient version of iPhoto, as it turns out).
> >
> > I use Yahoo / Firefox, I'm not sure what to say; how to answer. I open an email window, type, hit 'ad attachment' and get 5 places to attach photos (with an option for adding more). I then choose from the browser at the end of each of the 5 places that takes me to a folder I created on my desk top, but the photos therein are too small...
> >
> >> We still don't know whether you're using this approach because you have an old Mac that cannot be upgraded.
> >
> > Yes, my old (UNupgradable) Mac is a big part of my problem. Maybe I should just give up on this technology altogether. I can't afford it.
> >
> >> However, if that's not the case, I'd add my vote to Anna Larson's: use Apple's Mail.app, if you can. Also, iPhoto has become better and better with each iteration.
> >
> > It seems I can't even do that for the age of my computer..
> >> ...automate much of this by putting it in your signature.
> >
> >> Bottom line:
> >> Use an email client (doesn't have to be Mail.app, but it's free and excellent)
> >
> > Can't seem to download it, for age of my computer.
> >
> >> Use webmail only in a pinch
> >> Update your iPhoto if you can (not free, but not expensive, either).
> >> If you do these things, your problem will be no more.
> >
> > Right....
> >
> >> Oh, my new "ask a question" signature?
> >
> > Sometimes this group seems like more of an opportunity for braggarts than a place for getting help.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > eMac
> > OS 10.4.11
> > 1.25GHz Power PC G4
> > 1.25 GB DDR SDRAM
> >
> >> --
> >> Jim Robertson
> >>
> >> Mac Pro (Early 2008, Dual 2.8 Quad Core Xeons, 6 GB RAM
> >> OS X 10.7.4)
> >> MacBook Pro (15 inch Early 2011, 2 Ghz Intel Quad Core i7, 8 GB RAM
> >> OS X 10.7.4)
> >> iPad2 (16 GB ATT
> >> iOS 5.1.1)
> >> iPhone 4s (16 GB ATT
> >> iOS 5.1.1)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

5.2.

Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "Kitty" kquen2008@yahoo.com   kquen2008

Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:51 am (PDT)




Sorry, you did explain how to export photos. I just don't have that option with the version of Iphoto I have and use. K

-

6a.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Fri Jun 1, 2012 2:58 pm (PDT)



That entry from the FAQ refers to the *recovered* files, and there might be
some other issue there. Are you getting that far? As it says, you need only
your normal (admin) user password to use sudo.

I've only ever run PhotoRec when logged in as my normal (admin) user. The
process when recovering from an external was the same as when recovering
from a memory card, although I quit it early because it would've taken
dozens of hours.

Otto

On 1 June 2012 12:42, LouisD <lou@loudina.com> wrote:

> Otto,
>
> Maybe you are logged on differently than I am? I think I read something in
> the Readme and also their help. It is designed to work on hard drives, as
> noted below.
>
> "PhotoRec is file data recovery software designed to recover
> lost pictures from digital camera memory or even Hard Disks.
> It has been extended to search also for non audio/video headers."
>
>
> I saw this in the PhotoRec FAQs online. I'm not sure what password to use,
> since I have never tried using the sudo command.
>
> "I can't move, delete, rename the recovered files!
> Change the owner of the files, example sudo chown -R username recup_dir.*
> or sudo chown -R username /home/username/testdisk-6.14/recup_dir.*. (When
> asked for the password, use the password from your user session to validate
> the sudo command)"
>
> I'm guessing it is a permissions thing.
>

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7.

Jambox by Jawbone Wireless Speaker

Posted by: "Michael Moloney" moloney.icloud@gmail.com   moloney_mj

Fri Jun 1, 2012 6:53 pm (PDT)



Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone out there has the Jambox by Jawbone Wireless Speaker and what are your thoughts on it? I am looking for a suitable wireless speaker that is fairly compact to use with my idevices.

Much appreciated.

Michael Moloney
moloney.icloud@gmail.com

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