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Sat Jun 8, 2013 10:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002
That's great, but of course with a laptop there is some pretty important stuff, and I'm not sure I would have the nerve to stick the whole thing into the dishwasher!
Best,
Jim
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:39, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
Spilled a full Pepsi can on my G4 Tower keyboard once. In an experimental mood I spread out a towel onto the kitchen table and disassembled the keyboard. Washed it all in soap and water, then dried w a hair dryer. Worked after reassembling, but today, a new keyboard looks a lot easier.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "jgarv2002" <jim@...> wrote:
>
> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
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Best,
Jim
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:39, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.
Spilled a full Pepsi can on my G4 Tower keyboard once. In an experimental mood I spread out a towel onto the kitchen table and disassembled the keyboard. Washed it all in soap and water, then dried w a hair dryer. Worked after reassembling, but today, a new keyboard looks a lot easier.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
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Sat Jun 8, 2013 1:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> http://www.kbcovers.com/servlet/Detail?no=284
> Thanks for the idea. I did not put 2 +2 together and get 4 on this one as I
> was researching Dvorak external keyboards (which I will still get for non
> commute/siting at desk with 2nd monitor situations).
I couldn't actually remember the product name.
It turns out what I have *is* a KBCovers skin, specifically:
<http://www.kbcovers.com/servlet/Detail?no=232 >
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
> Thanks for the idea. I did not put 2 +2 together and get 4 on this one as I
> was researching Dvorak external keyboards (which I will still get for non
> commute/siting at desk with 2nd monitor situations).
I couldn't actually remember the product name.
It turns out what I have *is* a KBCovers skin, specifically:
<http://www.kbcovers
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Sat Jun 8, 2013 1:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Spilled a full Pepsi can on my G4 Tower keyboard once. In an experimental mood I spread out a towel onto the kitchen table and disassembled the keyboard. Washed it all in soap and water, then dried w a hair dryer. Worked after reassembling, but today, a new keyboard looks a lot easier.
I remember back in college learning that the *recommended* way of cleaning the circuit boards of the high-end Tektronix oscilloscopes was to run them through the dishwasher....
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I remember back in college learning that the *recommended* way of cleaning the circuit boards of the high-end Tektronix oscilloscopes was to run them through the dishwasher..
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Sat Jun 8, 2013 2:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"hester" drhester_06107
Moshi, the best protector I've ever had. $25.00. LIke a skin. YOu will not know it's there after 5 minutes of use. Easy to clean.
http://store.moshimonde.com/clearguard-mb-macbook-keyboard-protector-us.html
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "jgarv2002" <jim@...> wrote:
>
> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
http://store.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
Sat Jun 8, 2013 3:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002
Thanks for the tip!
On Jun 8, 2013, at 2:57 PM, hester <dhreik@gmail.com > wrote:
Moshi, the best protector I've ever had. $25.00. LIke a skin. YOu will not know it's there after 5 minutes of use. Easy to clean.
http://store.moshimonde.com/clearguard-mb-macbook-keyboard-protector-us.html
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "jgarv2002" <jim@...> wrote:
>
> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
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On Jun 8, 2013, at 2:57 PM, hester <dhreik@gmail.
Moshi, the best protector I've ever had. $25.00. LIke a skin. YOu will not know it's there after 5 minutes of use. Easy to clean.
http://store.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> After spending $750 to have an Apple repair depot replace most of the guts of my MBP after I dumped a full glass of milk on it (really!) I thought I should consider a keyboard protector both for it and my new MBP Retina.
>
> My son bought a used MBP a few years ago and didn't even realize there was a keyboard protector on it until recently, so I'm thinking at least some of them must be pretty good.
>
> Any experience out there?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
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Sat Jun 8, 2013 11:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
I remember hearing it applied to dirty keyboards too I think. Maybe not. I never completely trusted that little tip. Sounded weird.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > Spilled a full Pepsi can on my G4 Tower keyboard once. In an experimental mood I spread out a towel onto the kitchen table and disassembled the keyboard. Washed it all in soap and water, then dried w a hair dryer. Worked after reassembling, but today, a new keyboard looks a lot easier.
>
> I remember back in college learning that the *recommended* way of cleaning the circuit boards of the high-end Tektronix oscilloscopes was to run them through the dishwasher....
>
> --
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> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@...
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> > Spilled a full Pepsi can on my G4 Tower keyboard once. In an experimental mood I spread out a towel onto the kitchen table and disassembled the keyboard. Washed it all in soap and water, then dried w a hair dryer. Worked after reassembling, but today, a new keyboard looks a lot easier.
>
> I remember back in college learning that the *recommended* way of cleaning the circuit boards of the high-end Tektronix oscilloscopes was to run them through the dishwasher..
>
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> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@
>
Sat Jun 8, 2013 3:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Louise Stewart" pudgybulldog
Don't want to pay much. What kind would be OK? I bought new Adobe CS software on DVDs. I'm NOT technical in the least, so plz be VERY simple with an answer. :-)
My Mini is version 10.7.5, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3. I copied this from "about this Mac" and have no understanding of any of it. Someone asked me if it's Firewire or Thunderbolt. I have NO idea. I never heard of Thunderbolt.
I had a G4 which I still use until I've gotten all new software (All my Adobe and Quark is on the G4) and switch between computers with some kind of small Iomega device a friend installed for me. I also have an Iomega CD RW 48s24x48x that I haven't used in ages. It was used with the G4. Can I use it with the Mini? And if so, I don't guess it's a device that can be used to install DVDs? I know that might be a VERY dumb question, but I'm asking it anyway.
Louise
My Mini is version 10.7.5, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3. I copied this from "about this Mac" and have no understanding of any of it. Someone asked me if it's Firewire or Thunderbolt. I have NO idea. I never heard of Thunderbolt.
I had a G4 which I still use until I've gotten all new software (All my Adobe and Quark is on the G4) and switch between computers with some kind of small Iomega device a friend installed for me. I also have an Iomega CD RW 48s24x48x that I haven't used in ages. It was used with the G4. Can I use it with the Mini? And if so, I don't guess it's a device that can be used to install DVDs? I know that might be a VERY dumb question, but I'm asking it anyway.
Louise
Sat Jun 8, 2013 3:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler
Hi Louise,
Your Mac Mini has 4 USB ports, 1 Firewire-800 port and 1 Thunderbolt port.
Lots of options.
You can get either an external DVD drive or Blu-Ray drive (Blu-Ray drives
also handle DVDs and CDs)
For example, Other World Computing has a DVD drive as low as $43.50
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/VLU2SD24XSOB/
What you are looking for is either an EXTERNAL Blu-Ray or DVD drive with
USB 2.0 interface or FireWire 800 interface.
Almost any drive with these type of connectors should work on your Mac Mini.
Jon
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Louise Stewart <veggie236@earthlink.net >wrote:
> **
>
>
> Don't want to pay much. What kind would be OK? I bought new Adobe CS
> software on DVDs. I'm NOT technical in the least, so plz be VERY simple
> with an answer. :-)
>
> My Mini is version 10.7.5, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3. I
> copied this from "about this Mac" and have no understanding of any of it.
> Someone asked me if it's Firewire or Thunderbolt. I have NO idea. I never
> heard of Thunderbolt.
>
> I had a G4 which I still use until I've gotten all new software (All my
> Adobe and Quark is on the G4) and switch between computers with some kind
> of small Iomega device a friend installed for me. I also have an Iomega CD
> RW 48s24x48x that I haven't used in ages. It was used with the G4. Can I
> use it with the Mini? And if so, I don't guess it's a device that can be
> used to install DVDs? I know that might be a VERY dumb question, but I'm
> asking it anyway.
>
> Louise
>
>
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Your Mac Mini has 4 USB ports, 1 Firewire-800 port and 1 Thunderbolt port.
Lots of options.
You can get either an external DVD drive or Blu-Ray drive (Blu-Ray drives
also handle DVDs and CDs)
For example, Other World Computing has a DVD drive as low as $43.50
http://eshop.
What you are looking for is either an EXTERNAL Blu-Ray or DVD drive with
USB 2.0 interface or FireWire 800 interface.
Almost any drive with these type of connectors should work on your Mac Mini.
Jon
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Louise Stewart <veggie236@earthlink
> **
>
>
> Don't want to pay much. What kind would be OK? I bought new Adobe CS
> software on DVDs. I'm NOT technical in the least, so plz be VERY simple
> with an answer. :-)
>
> My Mini is version 10.7.5, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3. I
> copied this from "about this Mac" and have no understanding of any of it.
> Someone asked me if it's Firewire or Thunderbolt. I have NO idea. I never
> heard of Thunderbolt.
>
> I had a G4 which I still use until I've gotten all new software (All my
> Adobe and Quark is on the G4) and switch between computers with some kind
> of small Iomega device a friend installed for me. I also have an Iomega CD
> RW 48s24x48x that I haven't used in ages. It was used with the G4. Can I
> use it with the Mini? And if so, I don't guess it's a device that can be
> used to install DVDs? I know that might be a VERY dumb question, but I'm
> asking it anyway.
>
> Louise
>
>
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Sat Jun 8, 2013 5:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Good info but Louise said she has an Iomega CDRW. This must surely be USB,
in which case she should simply plug it into the mini and see if it works.
I hate to see people buying new stuff when they might already have what
they need.
Otto
On 8 June 2013 23:48, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hi Louise,
> Your Mac Mini has 4 USB ports, 1 Firewire-800 port and 1 Thunderbolt port.
> Lots of options.
> You can get either an external DVD drive or Blu-Ray drive (Blu-Ray drives
> also handle DVDs and CDs)
> For example, Other World Computing has a DVD drive as low as $43.50
>
> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/VLU2SD24XSOB/
>
> What you are looking for is either an EXTERNAL Blu-Ray or DVD drive with
> USB 2.0 interface or FireWire 800 interface.
> Almost any drive with these type of connectors should work on your Mac
> Mini.
>
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in which case she should simply plug it into the mini and see if it works.
I hate to see people buying new stuff when they might already have what
they need.
Otto
On 8 June 2013 23:48, Jon Kreisler <jonkreisler@
> Hi Louise,
> Your Mac Mini has 4 USB ports, 1 Firewire-800 port and 1 Thunderbolt port.
> Lots of options.
> You can get either an external DVD drive or Blu-Ray drive (Blu-Ray drives
> also handle DVDs and CDs)
> For example, Other World Computing has a DVD drive as low as $43.50
>
> http://eshop.
>
> What you are looking for is either an EXTERNAL Blu-Ray or DVD drive with
> USB 2.0 interface or FireWire 800 interface.
> Almost any drive with these type of connectors should work on your Mac
> Mini.
>
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Sat Jun 8, 2013 6:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> My Mini is version 10.7.5, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3. I copied this from "about this Mac" and have no understanding of any of it. Someone asked me if it's Firewire or Thunderbolt. I have NO idea. I never heard of Thunderbolt.
This is the Macmini5,1 introduced in July 2011, and discontinued in October 2012. Medil Number A1347, Order Number MC815LL/A.
It has 4 USB-2 ports, a Firewire-800 port, and a Thunderbolt port. Its RAM can be expanded up to 16GB.
> I had a G4 which I still use until I've gotten all new software (All my Adobe and Quark is on the G4) and switch between computers with some kind of small Iomega device a friend installed for me.
Firewire Target Disk Mode, or Ethernet networking, might work. I'm not absolutely certain, between the different architectures and OS's.
Apple's "Superdrive" lists for $79:
<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD564ZM/A/apple-usb-superdrive?fnode=5f >
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This is the Macmini5,1 introduced in July 2011, and discontinued in October 2012. Medil Number A1347, Order Number MC815LL/A.
It has 4 USB-2 ports, a Firewire-800 port, and a Thunderbolt port. Its RAM can be expanded up to 16GB.
> I had a G4 which I still use until I've gotten all new software (All my Adobe and Quark is on the G4) and switch between computers with some kind of small Iomega device a friend installed for me.
Firewire Target Disk Mode, or Ethernet networking, might work. I'm not absolutely certain, between the different architectures and OS's.
Apple's "Superdrive&qu
<http://store.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Sat Jun 8, 2013 6:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Good info but Louise said she has an Iomega CDRW. This must surely be USB,
> in which case she should simply plug it into the mini and see if it works.
How would a CDRW read DVD's?
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
> in which case she should simply plug it into the mini and see if it works.
How would a CDRW read DVD's?
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Sat Jun 8, 2013 7:03 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Here's the explanation for all of this.
Many companies make external optical drives that will read and burn
CDs, DVDs, and even BluRay (BD) discs.
I like the drives and cases from OWC because they seem to be good
quality, have a variety of ports like USB, FireWire, eSATA,
Thunderbolt, etc.
<http://eshop.macsales.com/ >
10.7.5 means the version of the operating system. Mac OS X 10.7.5
Mountain Lion.
2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 means that the processor runs at 2.3 GigaHertz
speed and has two cores (like two processors on one chip) and is the
Intel made Core i5 model.
2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 means your Mini has 2 Gigabytes of RAM (aka Memory),
the 1333 means it operates at 1333 MegaHertz speed, and is a type
called DDR3.
USB means Universal Serial Bus. This is a port (a socket) on the
computer to which you can connect mice, keyboards, drives, and other
devices.
FireWire is another type of port (socket) to which you can connect
devices like drives and cameras and more. FireWire is faster than USB
at moving data.
Thunderbolt is another type of port (socket) on all current new Macs
except the MacPro tower. Thunderbolt is a new type of port and cable.
It's very very fast and can also be used (with an adapter) to carry
USB, FireWire, video, audio, and networking signals).
You may see the term eSATA when looking at some models of external
optical CD/DVD/BD drives. eSATA is yet another type of port. Rather
fast. Your Mini can't have eSATA unless it's via an eSATA to
Thunderbolt adapter.
You need to be more specific with info for the Iomega CD RW. That term
seems a bit confusing. "CD RW" usually means a ReWritable CD disc.
48 24x48 means the speeds that the optical drive can write different
types of discs. From the name, I would guess that the Iomega device
might be able to only use CD discs but this might also mean it's very
old????
Denver Dan
On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 18:01:25 -0400, Louise Stewart wrote:
> Don't want to pay much. What kind would be OK? I bought new Adobe CS
> software on DVDs. I'm NOT technical in the least, so plz be VERY
> simple with an answer. :-)
>
> My Mini is version 10.7.5, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3.
> I copied this from "about this Mac" and have no understanding of any
> of it. Someone asked me if it's Firewire or Thunderbolt. I have NO
> idea. I never heard of Thunderbolt.
>
> I had a G4 which I still use until I've gotten all new software (All
> my Adobe and Quark is on the G4) and switch between computers with
> some kind of small Iomega device a friend installed for me. I also
> have an Iomega CD RW 48s24x48x that I haven't used in ages. It was
> used with the G4. Can I use it with the Mini? And if so, I don't
> guess it's a device that can be used to install DVDs? I know that
> might be a VERY dumb question, but I'm asking it anyway.
>
> Louise
Here's the explanation for all of this.
Many companies make external optical drives that will read and burn
CDs, DVDs, and even BluRay (BD) discs.
I like the drives and cases from OWC because they seem to be good
quality, have a variety of ports like USB, FireWire, eSATA,
Thunderbolt, etc.
<http://eshop.
10.7.5 means the version of the operating system. Mac OS X 10.7.5
Mountain Lion.
2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 means that the processor runs at 2.3 GigaHertz
speed and has two cores (like two processors on one chip) and is the
Intel made Core i5 model.
2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 means your Mini has 2 Gigabytes of RAM (aka Memory),
the 1333 means it operates at 1333 MegaHertz speed, and is a type
called DDR3.
USB means Universal Serial Bus. This is a port (a socket) on the
computer to which you can connect mice, keyboards, drives, and other
devices.
FireWire is another type of port (socket) to which you can connect
devices like drives and cameras and more. FireWire is faster than USB
at moving data.
Thunderbolt is another type of port (socket) on all current new Macs
except the MacPro tower. Thunderbolt is a new type of port and cable.
It's very very fast and can also be used (with an adapter) to carry
USB, FireWire, video, audio, and networking signals).
You may see the term eSATA when looking at some models of external
optical CD/DVD/BD drives. eSATA is yet another type of port. Rather
fast. Your Mini can't have eSATA unless it's via an eSATA to
Thunderbolt adapter.
You need to be more specific with info for the Iomega CD RW. That term
seems a bit confusing. "CD RW" usually means a ReWritable CD disc.
48 24x48 means the speeds that the optical drive can write different
types of discs. From the name, I would guess that the Iomega device
might be able to only use CD discs but this might also mean it's very
old????
Denver Dan
On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 18:01:25 -0400, Louise Stewart wrote:
> Don't want to pay much. What kind would be OK? I bought new Adobe CS
> software on DVDs. I'm NOT technical in the least, so plz be VERY
> simple with an answer. :-)
>
> My Mini is version 10.7.5, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3.
> I copied this from "about this Mac" and have no understanding of any
> of it. Someone asked me if it's Firewire or Thunderbolt. I have NO
> idea. I never heard of Thunderbolt.
>
> I had a G4 which I still use until I've gotten all new software (All
> my Adobe and Quark is on the G4) and switch between computers with
> some kind of small Iomega device a friend installed for me. I also
> have an Iomega CD RW 48s24x48x that I haven't used in ages. It was
> used with the G4. Can I use it with the Mini? And if so, I don't
> guess it's a device that can be used to install DVDs? I know that
> might be a VERY dumb question, but I'm asking it anyway.
>
> Louise
Sun Jun 9, 2013 3:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 9 June 2013 02:33, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
>
> How would a CDRW read DVD's?
>
It *might*.
It was common for CDRW drives to be able to *read* DVDs. For some years,
Apples that did not have a Superdrive had a such a drive. Apple called it a
"combo" drive. We don't know the spec of the Iomega; I'm suggesting it
*might* be able to read DVDs and it costs nothing to find out.
Otto
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>
> How would a CDRW read DVD's?
>
It *might*.
It was common for CDRW drives to be able to *read* DVDs. For some years,
Apples that did not have a Superdrive had a such a drive. Apple called it a
"combo" drive. We don't know the spec of the Iomega; I'm suggesting it
*might* be able to read DVDs and it costs nothing to find out.
Otto
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