9/10/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9747

15 New Messages

Digest #9747
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Re: Which Model (s)? by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: Which Model (s)? by "Julian Thomas"
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Re: Which Model (s)? by "Christopher Collins" cjc1959au
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Re: Which Model (s)? by "James Robertson" jamesrob328i
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New iPhones by "Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
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Re: New iPhones by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: New iPhones by "Bob Cook" cookrd1
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Re: New iPhones by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: New iPhones by "Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
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Re: New iPhones by "Bob Cook" cookrd1
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Re: New iPhones by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: Mac vs PC by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: printer low on toner message by "Barbara Adamski" bkadamski
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Re: printer low on toner message by "Barb Adamski" bkadamski

Messages

Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Then why not look at an iPad for your mobile, instead of a laptop?

On Sep 10, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Tony wrote:

The comments from this group has been outstanding to say the least. So, here is another dilemma that I would like comments.

As I mentioned before, I was looking to replace my Windows Desktop and Laptop with either a MacBook Air or MacBook Pro. I would like your opinion on this:

If I go the route of MacBook Pro and upgrade everything to the limit, as expected the cost would be much higher, and I would use that as both my Desktop and Laptop. Suppose I wanted to stay with having 2 models, a Desktop and Laptop, and since I do not need all the bells and whistles on the Laptop, what if I purchased the iMac for my Desktop and MacBook Air for my Laptop?

Since I am a Navy Vet, I have access to the Apple Military Store, which gives a decent discount based on the model I buy. I won't go as far as saying money isn't an object, but I want to get most bang for my buck.

I appreciate the comments.

Tony

Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Julian Thomas"


On 10Sep 2013, at 4:02 PM, Pat Taylor <pat412@mac.com> wrote:

> That is the equipment combo that I've used in my house for about three years & it has served me well.

and about the same mix that I will have in a few weeks - although in my case it will be a minimum config Macbook Pro and a 27: iMac.

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jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead

Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Christopher Collins" cjc1959au

Mine has a 27" iMac and a 15" rMBP.

cjc

On 11/09/2013, at 10:10 AM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:

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> On 10Sep 2013, at 4:02 PM, Pat Taylor <pat412@mac.com> wrote:
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> > That is the equipment combo that I've used in my house for about three years & it has served me well.
>
> and about the same mix that I will have in a few weeks - although in my case it will be a minimum config Macbook Pro and a 27: iMac.
>
> --
> jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
>

Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Sep 10, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Tony <nyrngrz@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If I go the route of MacBook Pro and upgrade everything to the limit, as expected the cost would be much higher, and I would use that as both my Desktop and Laptop. Suppose I wanted to stay with having 2 models, a Desktop and Laptop, and since I do not need all the bells and whistles on the Laptop, what if I purchased the iMac for my Desktop and MacBook Air for my Laptop?

I'll take a slightly different position. I bought a 15" Retina Display MacBook Pro when they first came out, then an Apple MiniDisplayPort equipped gigantic Cinema Display (both were Apple refurbs, so I saved something on each). I took the big screen display to work. At home, I have a second generation Mac Pro (Dual 2.8 GHz Quad Core processors, and two large screen LCD monitors, 4 internal drives, etc. With the SSD in the MacBook Pro and newer Quad Core i7 processor, it's so much quicker to boot and launch programs that I don't USE the Mac Pro much at all, but I sure love that big screen when I get to work.

So, I'd vote for the MacBook Pro (expandability because it has extra USB and Thunderbolt ports compared to the Air), but wait until the next one comes out so it will have 802.11ac WiFi, then get one of the gorgeous Apple bigscreen monitors and a numeric-keypad-equipped keyboard and make your MacBook Pro the CPU for your monitor when you're working at home.

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Jim Robertson
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My other car is an S-Works Roubaix

Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz

Underwhelming.

Faster CPU and 64 bit? You will see little real world difference
Camera upgrade, very good
Fingerprint Sensor? Yawn

iOS7, yes a great upgrade but we get that free for iPhone 4 and up.

As board told TC to innovate, next year will be the year that Apple's iPhone takes the world by storm, there will be the larger option and real innovation. I hope for useful and reliable gestures

Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Actually, I find the fingerprint sensor quite nice, and I yawned at the camera upgrade. But since my budget is tight, and my iPhone 4S is only 14 months old, I won't be upgrading.

Although I use a password vault app, I would like my stuff to be a bit more secure. But I find a 4-digit password a pain to use and ridiculously easy to by pass.

Most updates are eye-candy. I'd love to have the ability to use Airdrop on my MBP, but it is one model too old. Not a deal killer or one to make me upgrade.

The instruction to innovate just goes to show how short sighted the board is. These innovations do not happen over night, no matter what anyone demands. Apple currently only needs stocks to reward employees. They don't need it to attract investors or funding, so I think the push to pay dividends counter intuitive to their operations. It only rewards bad habits by investors to expect immediate, constant, and increasing rewards.

Like Tim Cook said at the end of the presentation, they decide on what they want achieve or experience they want to provide, and then they go about developing the means to accomplish it. Hell, they are still working on and extending the secret plans that Steve started and developed with the help of this crew. I'd be more concerned that Tim is up to the Jobs, pun intended. Those are some awfully big shoes to fill, but he did have a good teacher.

Brent

On Sep 10, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Tony wrote:

Underwhelming.

Faster CPU and 64 bit? You will see little real world difference
Camera upgrade, very good
Fingerprint Sensor? Yawn

iOS7, yes a great upgrade but we get that free for iPhone 4 and up.

As board told TC to innovate, next year will be the year that Apple's iPhone takes the world by storm, there will be the larger option and real innovation. I hope for useful and reliable gestures

Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bob Cook" cookrd1

Fingerprint sensor, my anticipation was great. Saw potential for iPhone as
a true wallet replacement. Sad to see it can only be used in iTunes.
I wanted to be able to use my iPhone as a credit card JUST LIKE MY SAMSUNG.
Maybe Apple can work this out next year. And hopefully a decent sized
screen, are least 5".

Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> Fingerprint sensor, my anticipation was great. Saw potential for iPhone as a true wallet replacement. Sad to see it can only be used in iTunes.
>
> I wanted to be able to use my iPhone as a credit card JUST LIKE MY SAMSUNG.
> Maybe Apple can work this out next year. And hopefully a decent sized screen, are least 5".

So I presume your Samsung allows 3rd-party app programmers access to the fingerprint reader.

How are 3rd-parties prevented from storing, re-using, or selling your fingerprint?

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz

Next year for sure. No reason to buy an iPhone for what it can do its still way behind 2013 phones. I'm at the point where I use iOS and OSX and I happen to use an Apple phone, Any one will do

Sent from my iPhone 5 

On 11/09/2013, at 1:23 PM, Bob Cook <cookrd1@discoveryowners.com> wrote:

> Fingerprint sensor, my anticipation was great. Saw potential for iPhone as a true wallet replacement. Sad to see it can only be used in iTunes.
> I wanted to be able to use my iPhone as a credit card JUST LIKE MY SAMSUNG.
> Maybe Apple can work this out next year. And hopefully a decent sized screen, are least 5".
>
>

Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bob Cook" cookrd1

No Fingerprint scanner on any Android. My Samsung uses NFC and pass code to
unlock its use. VERY HANDY to pay with my phone, just tap it on the
reader. No card to swipe or sign. Hope fingerprint scanner is more secure
than pass code, wonder what is holding Apple back. My wife's LG also has
this capability, as do most Android phones. I also store all my cards on
my phone as my phone, unlike my wife's, can be read by any store scanner if
the store isn't equipped with NFC. I literally do not carry a wallet
anymore, just my phone. My phone case has a slot where I carry my driver
license and concealed carry permit. Those are the only two things I need.
And I slip a $20 bill in there just in case I need cash.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013, Jim Saklad wrote:

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> > Fingerprint sensor, my anticipation was great. Saw potential for iPhone
> as a true wallet replacement. Sad to see it can only be used in iTunes.
> >
> > I wanted to be able to use my iPhone as a credit card JUST LIKE MY
> SAMSUNG.
> > Maybe Apple can work this out next year. And hopefully a decent sized
> screen, are least 5".
>
> So I presume your Samsung allows 3rd-party app programmers access to the
> fingerprint reader.
>
> How are 3rd-parties prevented from storing, re-using, or selling your
> fingerprint?
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> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'jimdoc@icloud.com');>
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>

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-Bob

Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

You and Jim, probably hit it on the head.

Apple is probably still working on the security issues of fingerprint scanning. They first try it, totally within their control, and then allow 3rd-party access. Look at GateKeeper, someone stole a developer's key, to get around the security. Do you want a 3rd party having access to your fingerprints? How would you reset your fingerprints?

Bob. please explain this sentence, "I also store all my cards on my phone as my phone, unlike my wife's, can be read by any store scanner if the store isn't equipped with NFC." Are you saying you have images of your cards on your phone, and stores accept the images? If they do, wow, what a security breach! No hologram, no magnetic strip to verify the card. No impression of the card to verify that you presented it.

Brent

On Sep 10, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

No Fingerprint scanner on any Android. My Samsung uses NFC and pass code to unlock its use. VERY HANDY to pay with my phone, just tap it on the reader. No card to swipe or sign. Hope fingerprint scanner is more secure than pass code, wonder what is holding Apple back. My wife's LG also has this capability, as do most Android phones. I also store all my cards on my phone as my phone, unlike my wife's, can be read by any store scanner if the store isn't equipped with NFC. I literally do not carry a wallet anymore, just my phone. My phone case has a slot where I carry my driver license and concealed carry permit. Those are the only two things I need. And I slip a $20 bill in there just in case I need cash.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013, Jim Saklad wrote:

> Fingerprint sensor, my anticipation was great. Saw potential for iPhone as a true wallet replacement. Sad to see it can only be used in iTunes.
>
> I wanted to be able to use my iPhone as a credit card JUST LIKE MY SAMSUNG.
> Maybe Apple can work this out next year. And hopefully a decent sized screen, are least 5".

So I presume your Samsung allows 3rd-party app programmers access to the fingerprint reader.

How are 3rd-parties prevented from storing, re-using, or selling your fingerprint?

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

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-Bob

Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:23 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> I rarely use the buttons, though. I use cmd-w to close windows. I haven't use Windows for years; does ctrl-w close windows and if so, does it also close the app?

If you close the last Window open from a given application in Windows, then the Application itself quits.

Daly

Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barbara Adamski" bkadamski

The message was on the Mac.

Yes, I did do the shaking and all the tricks, but I haven't read the 75-page manual :-)

Anyway, it seems to be working now.

Barb

On 2013-09-10, at 12:55 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

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> Is the low toner message on the printer or on the Mac?
>
> Disk Utility will not do a thing for a printer. If you have your Mac to reopen window after login, it will not clear the Print Queue. When you said previously that you "readded it", do you mean the printer driver?
>
> I have a couple of questions so we know what you have already tried. Before you changed the tone cartridge, did you shake it?
>
> In the manual on page 75, it tells you how to put the printer into print mode from stop mode. There are several cautions and other steps that might help in the process. Did you follow those steps?
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> If the low toner message is on the printer, have you tried Brother's support page? It it is on the printer, then fiddling with the Mac will not clear it.
>
> Brent
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> On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
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> Hi there. I am using a Brother 2270 DW on Mac OS 10.8.
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> I was getting a low toner message and a refusal to print, so I went and purchased new toner. I am still getting the same message and it still won't print. I've run disk utility, unplugged everything, rebooted, etc, but no luck.
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> Any suggestions?
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> Barb
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Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

I have not read the manual, either. I don't own a Brother's printer. BTW it is 144 pages, I just used the table of contents and search for the online version.

We not mind readers, so you have to tell us what you have tried, and be explicit with the details.

I know some of the posts are appearing very delayed, but your posts made it appear that the problem reappeared a day later.

Brent

On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:

The message was on the Mac.

Yes, I did do the shaking and all the tricks, but I haven't read the 75-page manual :-)

Anyway, it seems to be working now.

Barb

On 2013-09-10, at 12:55 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

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>
> Is the low toner message on the printer or on the Mac?
>
> Disk Utility will not do a thing for a printer. If you have your Mac to reopen window after login, it will not clear the Print Queue. When you said previously that you "readded it", do you mean the printer driver?
>
> I have a couple of questions so we know what you have already tried. Before you changed the tone cartridge, did you shake it?
>
> In the manual on page 75, it tells you how to put the printer into print mode from stop mode. There are several cautions and other steps that might help in the process. Did you follow those steps?
>
> If the low toner message is on the printer, have you tried Brother's support page? It it is on the printer, then fiddling with the Mac will not clear it.
>
> Brent
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>
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> On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
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>
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> Hi there. I am using a Brother 2270 DW on Mac OS 10.8.
>
> I was getting a low toner message and a refusal to print, so I went and purchased new toner. I am still getting the same message and it still won't print. I've run disk utility, unplugged everything, rebooted, etc, but no luck.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Barb
>
>
>

Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barb Adamski" bkadamski

No, everything is working now. I think it was a computer glitch and not a problem with the printer itself. Resetting it to default and deleting it and re-adding it in system preferences is what solved the problem.

Thanks for your help :-)

Barb Adamski
Sent from my iPad

On 2013-09-10, at 10:51 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have not read the manual, either. I don't own a Brother's printer. BTW it is 144 pages, I just used the table of contents and search for the online version.
>
> We not mind readers, so you have to tell us what you have tried, and be explicit with the details.
>
> I know some of the posts are appearing very delayed, but your posts made it appear that the problem reappeared a day later.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
>
>
> The message was on the Mac.
>
>
> Yes, I did do the shaking and all the tricks, but I haven't read the 75-page manual :-)
>
> Anyway, it seems to be working now.
>
> Barb
>
> On 2013-09-10, at 12:55 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Is the low toner message on the printer or on the Mac?
>>
>> Disk Utility will not do a thing for a printer. If you have your Mac to reopen window after login, it will not clear the Print Queue. When you said previously that you "readded it", do you mean the printer driver?
>>
>> I have a couple of questions so we know what you have already tried. Before you changed the tone cartridge, did you shake it?
>>
>> In the manual on page 75, it tells you how to put the printer into print mode from stop mode. There are several cautions and other steps that might help in the process. Did you follow those steps?
>>
>> If the low toner message is on the printer, have you tried Brother's support page? It it is on the printer, then fiddling with the Mac will not clear it.
>>
>> Brent
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>> On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
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>> Hi there. I am using a Brother 2270 DW on Mac OS 10.8.
>>
>> I was getting a low toner message and a refusal to print, so I went and purchased new toner. I am still getting the same message and it still won't print. I've run disk utility, unplugged everything, rebooted, etc, but no luck.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Barb
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