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Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
jrswebhome
The only way to iOS7 was OSX Mountain Lion/iTunes11. It's all
related despite the fog.
---In macsupportcentral@
<macsupportcentral@
Sorry, but I guess I don't grasp the point you're trying to make.
What Apple does with it's iOS doesn't translate into an iPhone v
android comparison. More to the point is the iOS6 v iOS7
comparison. So far I am not impressed with iOS7 for various
reasons.
---In macsupportcentral@
<macsupportcentral@
Just show it to an android user ... they seem to like it just
fine!
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, jsm5320432@.
<mailto:jsm53204
Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has
resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in
"uggh"
Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I believe you misunderstood the message about "Do not Disturb". If it is locked and "Do not Disturb" is on, it will be silenced and the icon will appear.
As to it not working, try the regular routine, verify and cycle the settings, then power cycle the iPhone. If the problem persists, the next step is Reset, and after that Restore.
The appearance of iOS will probably change in a year at the most, and there is no indication what direction it will take. Just as long as it is not back to faux leather!
Brent
On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:50 AM, <jsm5320432@yahoo.com> <jsm5320432@yahoo.com> wrote:
I just upgraded my iphone 4S to ios7 and confused about what were fairly straight-forward commands. For example, when you try to set "Do not disturb" in the settings menu, it reads, "When do not disturb is enabled calls and alerts that arrive while locked will be silenced, and a moon icon will appear in the status bar".
In the old settings one could switch on "do not disturb" and only certain calls/messages would be allowed to ring through to the phone. Now however, the instructions imply the phone must be locked(?) to make it work.
I just had my phone (while locked) sent through a text when I suspect it shouldn't have. So, even though the text came from a "non favorite" it got through.
My complaint on the calendar is the same as some others. Harder to read is not better and the white/gray does not work as good as the old calendar. Not all times is one sitting in perfect lighting conditions under which I assume the person(s) who thought this would be cool must have "tested" the new calendar look. Bold text setting seems to help moderately but not enough.
Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in "uggh".
Can't say Apple even hit the target with this "upgrade" let alone the bulls eye.
John
---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I dont really follow this. iOS 7 has a different look, but its still the same, age old iOS, but with a slightly different look. What was there before is still there, plus some useful features that don''t overcrowd it. Moving apps up to turn them off, is that really that big a deal? Its much better then holding one app for 2-3 seconds then touching the wee red x on each one to remove it. Its simpler and faster, is that not good?
From: John Engberg <mrbyte@...>
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@...> wrote:
>
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>> Every time this question comes up, I wonder: am I the only one who's uncomfortable with the notion that a company founded on intuitive user interface is now asking us to equate up with off?
>>> Dane
>>
>> So far, I think that you are the only one who has.
>> If it helps, think of picking that app up off the tray.
>> Just the way you remove things from the Dock in MacOS X.
>> ''''
> That was just the tip of the iceberg. Dane is not alone. The "computer for the rest of us" has become monstrously mysterious with lots of processes running invisible, full of iCould requirements, hugely changed interfaces including almost unreadable fonts/background combinations.
>
> The interface feels to me something like a visit to a Museum of Modern Art where you kind of have to focus in and figure out what they are trying to tell you. And I'm MUCH older now than when I started so enthusiastically with Mac and started a vibrant consulting side business.
>
> It is now so complex and mysterious that I've lost interest. I"m sure the younger members will take to it. (Actually I'm NOT sure evan about that.)
>
> I think the younger members will feel much freer to switch to Samsung, or whatever. iCloud, horrific iOS user interface (grey on grey, REALLY, even worse than the earlier iCal, which was bad enough. In iCal there is not even any differentiation between dates in the previous/next months - it's all grey on grey. This is all "modern art," not user interface.
>
> I'm about done.
>
> I feel so bad about it.
>
> All these years I haVe helped people move to Mac, and now I think it's no better than the competition. In some ways, worse. Apple appears to me all about style and the user is the loser. Well, there's still the virus advantage, but I truly think that advantage is eroding.
>
>
> End of rant for the evening.
>
> Daly
>
>
Well said, Daly. I second your sentiments! I'm really concerned with the direction we seem to be going.
John Engberg
As to it not working, try the regular routine, verify and cycle the settings, then power cycle the iPhone. If the problem persists, the next step is Reset, and after that Restore.
The appearance of iOS will probably change in a year at the most, and there is no indication what direction it will take. Just as long as it is not back to faux leather!
Brent
On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:50 AM, <jsm5320432@yahoo.
I just upgraded my iphone 4S to ios7 and confused about what were fairly straight-forward commands. For example, when you try to set "Do not disturb" in the settings menu, it reads, "When do not disturb is enabled calls and alerts that arrive while locked will be silenced, and a moon icon will appear in the status bar".
In the old settings one could switch on "do not disturb" and only certain calls/messages would be allowed to ring through to the phone. Now however, the instructions imply the phone must be locked(?) to make it work.
I just had my phone (while locked) sent through a text when I suspect it shouldn'
My complaint on the calendar is the same as some others. Harder to read is not better and the white/gray does not work as good as the old calendar. Not all times is one sitting in perfect lighting conditions under which I assume the person(s) who thought this would be cool must have "tested" the new calendar look. Bold text setting seems to help moderately but not enough.
Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in "uggh"
Can't say Apple even hit the target with this "upgrade" let alone the bulls eye.
John
---In macsupportcentral@
I dont really follow this. iOS 7 has a different look, but its still the same, age old iOS, but with a slightly different look. What was there before is still there, plus some useful features that don''
From: John Engberg <mrbyte@.
To: macsupportcentral@
Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@.
>
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>> Every time this question comes up, I wonder: am I the only one who's uncomfortable with the notion that a company founded on intuitive user interface is now asking us to equate up with off?
>>> Dane
>>
>> So far, I think that you are the only one who has.
>> If it helps, think of picking that app up off the tray.
>> Just the way you remove things from the Dock in MacOS X.
>> ''&#
> That was just the tip of the iceberg. Dane is not alone. The "computer for the rest of us" has become monstrously mysterious with lots of processes running invisible, full of iCould requirements, hugely changed interfaces including almost unreadable fonts/background combinations.
>
> The interface feels to me something like a visit to a Museum of Modern Art where you kind of have to focus in and figure out what they are trying to tell you. And I'm MUCH older now than when I started so enthusiastically with Mac and started a vibrant consulting side business.
>
> It is now so complex and mysterious that I've lost interest. I"m sure the younger members will take to it. (Actually I'm NOT sure evan about that.)
>
> I think the younger members will feel much freer to switch to Samsung, or whatever. iCloud, horrific iOS user interface (grey on grey, REALLY, even worse than the earlier iCal, which was bad enough. In iCal there is not even any differentiation between dates in the previous/next months - it's all grey on grey. This is all "modern art," not user interface.
>
> I'm about done.
>
> I feel so bad about it.
>
> All these years I haVe helped people move to Mac, and now I think it's no better than the competition. In some ways, worse. Apple appears to me all about style and the user is the loser. Well, there's still the virus advantage, but I truly think that advantage is eroding.
>
>
> End of rant for the evening.
>
> Daly
>
>
Well said, Daly. I second your sentiments! I'm really concerned with the direction we seem to be going.
John Engberg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"TimeFramePhoto"
My point, though perhaps poorly made, was that iOS7 looks and feels more like an android interface than an iPhone.
On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:06 PM, jsm5320432@yahoo.com wrote:
> Sorry, but I guess I don't grasp the point you're trying to make. What Apple does with it's iOS doesn't translate into an iPhone v android comparison. More to the point is the iOS6 v iOS7 comparison. So far I am not impressed with iOS7 for various reasons.
>
>
> ---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Just show it to an android user ... they seem to like it just fine!
>
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, jsm5320432@... wrote:
>> Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in "uggh".
On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:06 PM, jsm5320432@yahoo.
> Sorry, but I guess I don't grasp the point you're trying to make. What Apple does with it's iOS doesn't translate into an iPhone v android comparison. More to the point is the iOS6 v iOS7 comparison. So far I am not impressed with iOS7 for various reasons.
>
>
> ---In macsupportcentral@
>
> Just show it to an android user ... they seem to like it just fine!
>
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, jsm5320432@.
>> Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in "uggh"
Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
As OS evolve, will they all look totally different? No.
Some will look similar. If you talk stability and security, thats another issue
From: TimeFramePhoto <macdane@mac.com>
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
My point, though perhaps poorly made, was that iOS7 looks and feels more like an android interface than an iPhone.
On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:06 PM, jsm5320432@yahoo.com wrote:
Sorry, but I guess I don't grasp the point you're trying to make. What Apple does with it's iOS doesn't translate into an iPhone v android comparison. More to the point is the iOS6 v iOS7 comparison. So far I am not impressed with iOS7 for various reasons.
>
>---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>Just show it to an android user ... they seem to like it just fine!
>
>On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, jsm5320432@... wrote:
>Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in "uggh".
Some will look similar. If you talk stability and security, thats another issue
From: TimeFramePhoto <macdane@mac.
To: macsupportcentral@
Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
My point, though perhaps poorly made, was that iOS7 looks and feels more like an android interface than an iPhone.
On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:06 PM, jsm5320432@yahoo.
Sorry, but I guess I don't grasp the point you're trying to make. What Apple does with it's iOS doesn't translate into an iPhone v android comparison. More to the point is the iOS6 v iOS7 comparison. So far I am not impressed with iOS7 for various reasons.
>
>---In macsupportcentral@
>
>
>Just show it to an android user ... they seem to like it just fine!
>
>On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, jsm5320432@
>Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in "uggh"
Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bill Cathey" b.cathey
Thanks, Bill. It looks like the problem with Notes has been going on for quote a while. I may switch to just using it during the day when I'm away from home and transfer the notes to Evernote as my primary notes app.
bill
On Sep 24, 2013, at 10:37 AM, <bill.castine@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some possible help for your missing Notes:
>
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4719479?start=0&tstart=0
>
>
>
> Evernote client for Mac/Win platforms caches your notes locally for offline access. The mobile apps only cache the headers so they don't fill your mobile with stuff you may never access. This is similar to the way Dropbox works, though Evernote stores your notes in a database and not the Mac file system so it's not as easy to treat them as individual objects. Upgrading to Premium allows you to "star" an item on your mobile for offline (and faster) access and provides quicker OCR of your photos to assist in searches. If you're trying to use the web client, then it's a web client and no one would expect it to work offline.
>
>
>
> Bill C.
>
>
>
> ---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> When I first noticed that the most recent notes would occasionally disappear from the Notes app on my iOS devices at the first of this year, my Googling seemed to suggest that the problem has been going on for some time, and I couldn't seem to find any definitive explanation as to what caused it or how to fix it. Does anyone know if there is any explanation/fix for this problem?
>
> Also, I've seen Evernote recommended as a replacement, but am I correct that the free version doesn't allow you to access your notes unless you're connected to the Internet?
>
> Thanks,
> bill
>
bill
On Sep 24, 2013, at 10:37 AM, <bill.castine@
> Some possible help for your missing Notes:
>
> https://discussions
>
>
>
> Evernote client for Mac/Win platforms caches your notes locally for offline access. The mobile apps only cache the headers so they don't fill your mobile with stuff you may never access. This is similar to the way Dropbox works, though Evernote stores your notes in a database and not the Mac file system so it's not as easy to treat them as individual objects. Upgrading to Premium allows you to "star" an item on your mobile for offline (and faster) access and provides quicker OCR of your photos to assist in searches. If you're trying to use the web client, then it's a web client and no one would expect it to work offline.
>
>
>
> Bill C.
>
>
>
> ---In macsupportcentral@
>
> When I first noticed that the most recent notes would occasionally disappear from the Notes app on my iOS devices at the first of this year, my Googling seemed to suggest that the problem has been going on for some time, and I couldn't seem to find any definitive explanation as to what caused it or how to fix it. Does anyone know if there is any explanation/
>
> Also, I've seen Evernote recommended as a replacement, but am I correct that the free version doesn't allow you to access your notes unless you're connected to the Internet?
>
> Thanks,
> bill
>
Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I'm usually the negative one, but I am glad Hal9000 finally found something he likes. Blocked contacts! Not that I really had a need for it, it is nice to have the option finally. Actually, I used to have a big need for Do Not Disturb. I had a boss that used to call at inappropriate times about things that could wait until the next day, especially since we worked 6 days a week for 5 years.
As to the blinding background, adjust your brightness down some. And try a different wallpaper. Since I upgraded my 4S, my old wallpaper dimmed it down some also.
They only publish manuals for the current phone and iOS. It has been that way for a while now, and it really doesn't matter. Granted it would be nice if they included a small section on what is not available or supported for the older models. I think my 4S can AirDrop, but I have nothing that can receive it at home.
Brent
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 AM, <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is only my opinion
Things I dislike about iTunes 11: Disgusting move from beautiful 10.
Playing Audio Books in landscape displays Music Albums
Things I really like of iOS7 on my iPhone4:
Smooth action.
Easy to double click, swipe up apps OFF. (Tons better than before)
BLOCK Phone Contacts
Quick Swipe up the Control Panel for Camera, music player, etc.
Things I dislike about iOS7:
All text.
I don't think iPhone4 can adjust text as large as 5 and 5s can.
Blinding white backgrounds.
The manuals for the iOS7 are not phone specific,
therefore one doesn't know if a function is available for
the iPhone4 until you look at the iPhone4.
Overall iOS7 is much worth the change.
But you have no choice if you try to restore your iPhone.
Be sure once you go to iOS7, RESET Setting to default.
Then adjust settings. It saves a lot of weird behavior I ran into after conversion.
---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:40 , jrswebhome@... wrote:
> Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac. Apple responded:
>
> There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version, no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!!!!"
>
> Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.
> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to
> default, then change to new settings.
I also have an iPhone 4 but haven't upgraded. (I've heard very mixed reports.)
Aside from your possible dissatisfaction with iOS 7 itself, how does the phone perform compared with iOS 6?
Thank you,
David
As to the blinding background, adjust your brightness down some. And try a different wallpaper. Since I upgraded my 4S, my old wallpaper dimmed it down some also.
They only publish manuals for the current phone and iOS. It has been that way for a while now, and it really doesn't matter. Granted it would be nice if they included a small section on what is not available or supported for the older models. I think my 4S can AirDrop, but I have nothing that can receive it at home.
Brent
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 AM, <jrswebhome@yahoo.
This is only my opinion
Things I dislike about iTunes 11: Disgusting move from beautiful 10.
Playing Audio Books in landscape displays Music Albums
Things I really like of iOS7 on my iPhone4:
Smooth action.
Easy to double click, swipe up apps OFF. (Tons better than before)
BLOCK Phone Contacts
Quick Swipe up the Control Panel for Camera, music player, etc.
Things I dislike about iOS7:
All text.
I don't think iPhone4 can adjust text as large as 5 and 5s can.
Blinding white backgrounds.
The manuals for the iOS7 are not phone specific,
therefore one doesn't know if a function is available for
the iPhone4 until you look at the iPhone4.
Overall iOS7 is much worth the change.
But you have no choice if you try to restore your iPhone.
Be sure once you go to iOS7, RESET Setting to default.
Then adjust settings. It saves a lot of weird behavior I ran into after conversion.
---In macsupportcentral@
On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:40 , jrswebhome@.
> Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac. Apple responded:
>
> There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version, no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!
>
> Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.
> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to
> default, then change to new settings.
I also have an iPhone 4 but haven't upgraded. (I've heard very mixed reports.)
Aside from your possible dissatisfaction with iOS 7 itself, how does the phone perform compared with iOS 6?
Thank you,
David
Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:48:37 -0700, James Robertson wrote:
>
> > I recall seeing discussions on this or another Mac listserv
> > indicating that Word's font cache could get corrupted and cause
> > problems. Could that be the problem here? If so, can someone point me
> > to the recipe to correct the issue?
Here's how to delete font caches:
http://www.office.
Font Nuke (free)
http://jamapi.
Some folks have found that uninstalling Word, and then booting into SafeMode and reinstalling Word while in SafeMode fixes the problem.
If that doesn't fix it, here is a run down of things to try to troubleshoot Word problems:
http://word.
____________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
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Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"James Robertson" jamesrob328i
On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:48 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.
> On my ordinarily "superspeedy&q
Can anyone visualize bits of crow spilling from my lips?
I just came home, opened my mail, and discovered several helpful suggestions about deleting font caches (I'll retain those in case I need them). However, just before I left for work this morning, I realized that I had my user folder from my Mac Pro mounted on my MacBook Pro, and I now have a hunch that I was using the templates folder (or something else MS Word needs) that resides on the "server" connected by WiFi to the MacBook Pro.
Tonight, when I launch Word on the MacBook Pro (with no volumes from the Mac Pro mounted), Word's icon doesn't even complete one bounce in the Dock before it is ready for me with a new blank document, and my own templates pop up new windows ready for my input just as quickly. One guess might be that because I created templates on the Mac Pro, then later moved them to the MacBook Pro, perhaps I'm using a font or customized style or who knows what that Word retrieves from the other computer (over WiFi) if the other computer is mounted on the MacBook Pro's desktop. Is that a possible explanation?
Jim Robertson
Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I have been trying to sync my iPhone 4s since upgrading to iOS 7 & iTunes 11.1, 2 days ago. I could not figure out why it seemed to sync, but would not sync my audiobooks.
I have Restarted, Reset & Restored. I have created a new playlist. I have tried syncing the audiobooks to my old iPhone 3GS. But in all cases the sync hangs in dealing with either importing photos or analyzing photos. I finally noticed that it was canceling the sync, not finishing it.
Any suggestions before I take it in to the Genius Bar? Any one else having problems with syncing since the upgrade?
Brent
15" MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X 10.7.5
iPhone 4S, iOS 7.0.2
I have Restarted, Reset & Restored. I have created a new playlist. I have tried syncing the audiobooks to my old iPhone 3GS. But in all cases the sync hangs in dealing with either importing photos or analyzing photos. I finally noticed that it was canceling the sync, not finishing it.
Any suggestions before I take it in to the Genius Bar? Any one else having problems with syncing since the upgrade?
Brent
15" MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X 10.7.5
iPhone 4S, iOS 7.0.2
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