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Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:24 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
According to several articles on the technology of the Fingerprint
Touch ID technology the iPhone 5S does not store an image of the
fingerprint but rather stores a mathematical set of coordinates for the
"ridges and valleys" and other aspects of fingerprint ID technology.
According to Apple the data for a fingerprint is stored only on the
iPhone 5S and not on an Apple server or on iCloud.
Here's an article on the topic that "touches" on other efforts to make
fingerprint ID work.
<http://readwrite.com/2013/09/11/goodbye-swipe-to-unlock-hello-touch-id#awesm=~oheARWZmVYuxYa>
Denver Dan
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:40:30 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>> How are 3rd-parties prevented from storing, re-using, or selling
>>> your fingerprint?
>>
>> Thats a good point, particularly where Androids are susceptible to malware.
>>
>> The Fingerprint sensor is just a gimmick, adds a minor efficiency
>> gain to those that lock phones. Its good marketing, and for some, a
>> nice feature, so it is a nice wee innovation.
>
> As at least one publication has pointed out, solid fingerprint
> technology make a device much more useful in business/government use.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
According to several articles on the technology of the Fingerprint
Touch ID technology the iPhone 5S does not store an image of the
fingerprint but rather stores a mathematical set of coordinates for the
"ridges and valleys" and other aspects of fingerprint ID technology.
According to Apple the data for a fingerprint is stored only on the
iPhone 5S and not on an Apple server or on iCloud.
Here's an article on the topic that "touches" on other efforts to make
fingerprint ID work.
<http://readwrite.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:40:30 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>> How are 3rd-parties prevented from storing, re-using, or selling
>>> your fingerprint?
>>
>> Thats a good point, particularly where Androids are susceptible to malware.
>>
>> The Fingerprint sensor is just a gimmick, adds a minor efficiency
>> gain to those that lock phones. Its good marketing, and for some, a
>> nice feature, so it is a nice wee innovation.
>
> As at least one publication has pointed out, solid fingerprint
> technology make a device much more useful in business/government use.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I believe that is how fingerprint comparison works, but like facial comparison. Rather than adjusting the size or viewing angles, it changes them into a mathematical set of coordinates.
The converging images of fingerprints or photos of faces is just for the movies.
In fact, I also believe the mathematical set of coordinates, is how the FBI compares fingerprints on a computer, and then has a human verify it. The mathematical set of coordinates can then be stored or transmitted, so if the article is supposed to relieve fears of someone stealing, transmitting or duplicating someone else's fingerprints, it fails.
Brent
On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
Howdy.
According to several articles on the technology of the Fingerprint
Touch ID technology the iPhone 5S does not store an image of the
fingerprint but rather stores a mathematical set of coordinates for the
"ridges and valleys" and other aspects of fingerprint ID technology.
According to Apple the data for a fingerprint is stored only on the
iPhone 5S and not on an Apple server or on iCloud.
Here's an article on the topic that "touches" on other efforts to make
fingerprint ID work.
<http://readwrite.com/2013/09/11/goodbye-swipe-to-unlock-hello-touch-id#awesm=~oheARWZmVYuxYa>
Denver Dan
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:40:30 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>> How are 3rd-parties prevented from storing, re-using, or selling
>>> your fingerprint?
>>
>> Thats a good point, particularly where Androids are susceptible to malware.
>>
>> The Fingerprint sensor is just a gimmick, adds a minor efficiency
>> gain to those that lock phones. Its good marketing, and for some, a
>> nice feature, so it is a nice wee innovation.
>
> As at least one publication has pointed out, solid fingerprint
> technology make a device much more useful in business/government use.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
The converging images of fingerprints or photos of faces is just for the movies.
In fact, I also believe the mathematical set of coordinates, is how the FBI compares fingerprints on a computer, and then has a human verify it. The mathematical set of coordinates can then be stored or transmitted, so if the article is supposed to relieve fears of someone stealing, transmitting or duplicating someone else's fingerprints, it fails.
Brent
On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
Howdy.
According to several articles on the technology of the Fingerprint
Touch ID technology the iPhone 5S does not store an image of the
fingerprint but rather stores a mathematical set of coordinates for the
"ridges and valleys" and other aspects of fingerprint ID technology.
According to Apple the data for a fingerprint is stored only on the
iPhone 5S and not on an Apple server or on iCloud.
Here's an article on the topic that "touches" on other efforts to make
fingerprint ID work.
<http://readwrite.
Denver Dan
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:40:30 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>> How are 3rd-parties prevented from storing, re-using, or selling
>>> your fingerprint?
>>
>> Thats a good point, particularly where Androids are susceptible to malware.
>>
>> The Fingerprint sensor is just a gimmick, adds a minor efficiency
>> gain to those that lock phones. Its good marketing, and for some, a
>> nice feature, so it is a nice wee innovation.
>
> As at least one publication has pointed out, solid fingerprint
> technology make a device much more useful in business/government use.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
We've seen several posts on the new iPhone 5S A7 64-bit chip.
There is another chip in the new iPhone 5S that should be investigated.
The M7 chip (Motion 7 chip) is described as:
"Apple describes the M7 as a sidekick to the A7 chip. It's there to
lighten the workload of the A7 by measuring the motion data from the
accelerometer, gyroscope, and compass. It continuously measures motion
data and grabs this information without relying on the A7 chip. "
One of the benefits of this M7 chip is that it is a low power consumer
and uses a lot less battery juice than the A7 chip.
This could mean better battery life for the iPhone 5S as developers
releases more apps that use the several motion sensors without having
to use the A7 chip. Several articles on this topic have talked about a
new generation of sports, exercise, off road, and gymnastic apps that
should be forthcoming.
Denver Dan
We've seen several posts on the new iPhone 5S A7 64-bit chip.
There is another chip in the new iPhone 5S that should be investigated.
The M7 chip (Motion 7 chip) is described as:
"Apple describes the M7 as a sidekick to the A7 chip. It's there to
lighten the workload of the A7 by measuring the motion data from the
accelerometer, gyroscope, and compass. It continuously measures motion
data and grabs this information without relying on the A7 chip. "
One of the benefits of this M7 chip is that it is a low power consumer
and uses a lot less battery juice than the A7 chip.
This could mean better battery life for the iPhone 5S as developers
releases more apps that use the several motion sensors without having
to use the A7 chip. Several articles on this topic have talked about a
new generation of sports, exercise, off road, and gymnastic apps that
should be forthcoming.
Denver Dan
Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:30 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
any?
Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"keith_w" keith9600
Got this email on Thursday at 12:52 PM.
keith whaley
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
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keith whaley
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.
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> any?
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Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:30 , HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
> any?
They are, but to judge from recent ones I have sent, they are sometimes posted out of the order you send them in and with a delay of several hours.
David
> any?
They are, but to judge from recent ones I have sent, they are sometimes posted out of the order you send them in and with a delay of several hours.
David
Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I haven't see it, yet. But then since yahoo mades some changes a week or so back, I am not seeing all the posts to the 4 yahoo lists I am on. Including all of my own.
Brent
On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:52 PM, keith_w wrote:
Got this email on Thursday at 12:52 PM.
keith whaley
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
any?
Brent
On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:52 PM, keith_w wrote:
Got this email on Thursday at 12:52 PM.
keith whaley
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.
any?
Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"OBrien" conorboru
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:30:55 -0000, HAL9000 wrote:
> any?
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> any?
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Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:14 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Engberg" mrbyte
On Sep 12, 2013, at 3:30 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.
> any?
>
Well, yours did.
Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
iMac 10,1 (10.8.4) and iPhone4
If I have bluetooth turned ON on both devices, why do they not see each other?
If I have bluetooth turned ON on both devices, why do they not see each other?
Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Sep 12, 2013, at 3:32 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
> iMac 10,1 (10.8.4) and iPhone4
>
> If I have bluetooth turned ON on both devices, why do they not see each other?
>
Have you paired them. That is a necessary step in BlueTooth. Visualize this scenario: You have BlueTooth in your car (as I do). So your phone can talk to the car so you can do hands free calling. Do you really want to have people in cars next to you at the traffic light to listen in? So with pairing your phone and your car will recognize each other. Not such a big deal in your situation, since your phone and computer are next to each other, but if your computer could listen in without pairing then so could the guy next to you on the train.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
I was asking too much of bluetooth. I wondered if I could surf the web from my iPhone bluetooth connection to the iMac rather than surf through my ATT connection. Apparently not.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Barry Austern <barryaus@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2013, at 3:32 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
>
> > iMac 10,1 (10.8.4) and iPhone4
> >
> > If I have bluetooth turned ON on both devices, why do they not see each other?
> >
>
> Have you paired them. That is a necessary step in BlueTooth. Visualize this scenario: You have BlueTooth in your car (as I do). So your phone can talk to the car so you can do hands free calling. Do you really want to have people in cars next to you at the traffic light to listen in? So with pairing your phone and your car will recognize each other. Not such a big deal in your situation, since your phone and computer are next to each other, but if your computer could listen in without pairing then so could the guy next to you on the train.
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@...
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2013, at 3:32 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
>
> > iMac 10,1 (10.8.4) and iPhone4
> >
> > If I have bluetooth turned ON on both devices, why do they not see each other?
> >
>
> Have you paired them. That is a necessary step in BlueTooth. Visualize this scenario: You have BlueTooth in your car (as I do). So your phone can talk to the car so you can do hands free calling. Do you really want to have people in cars next to you at the traffic light to listen in? So with pairing your phone and your car will recognize each other. Not such a big deal in your situation, since your phone and computer are next to each other, but if your computer could listen in without pairing then so could the guy next to you on the train.
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@...
>
Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> I was asking too much of bluetooth. I wondered if I could surf the web from my iPhone bluetooth connection to the iMac rather than surf through my ATT connection. Apparently not.
Bluetooth is one of the ways you can tether your iMac to your iPhone, in order to use the iPhone's cellular data.
The reverse does not work with Bluetooth.
The iPhone cannot use the iMac's connection to the internet over their Bluetooth connection.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
Bluetooth is one of the ways you can tether your iMac to your iPhone, in order to use the iPhone's cellular data.
The reverse does not work with Bluetooth.
The iPhone cannot use the iMac's connection to the internet over their Bluetooth connection.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
But why, when you can use Wi-Fi? (Or is this just a "I wonder if it works?"
thing?)
Otto
On 12 September 2013 22:12, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was asking too much of bluetooth. I wondered if I could surf the web
> from my iPhone bluetooth connection to the iMac rather than surf through my
> ATT connection. Apparently not.
>
thing?)
Otto
On 12 September 2013 22:12, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.
> I was asking too much of bluetooth. I wondered if I could surf the web
> from my iPhone bluetooth connection to the iMac rather than surf through my
> ATT connection. Apparently not.
>
Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jann" jannsmailinglists
I am having problems with my MAC mail. I have had my Gmail account set up in MAC mail since getting my MAC computer. Recently I read that Gmail was making some changes and was dividing up your mail into three mailbox folders. When I stopped getting my Gmail through MAC mail I thought this was why I stopped getting my mail. I read up and Google told how to change it back to the old way, so I did. I got my mail, but only for a short time. So I went in and changed it back to the three folders. Again I got mail sometimes, but not others. I got my Gmail on Sep 9th and haven't had any since! At this point I don't know where I am at. Apparently whatever is set up works, then does not work. I get my Gail just fine on my iPhone and my iPad. It is just the computer that is not always getting it. I also thought signing out of Google might help, but it didn't. Any ideas??
I am afraid of loosing my saved mail if I delete the account and set up a new one. I also have several folders I file mail into if it is things like signup mail, certain genealogy mail or other such things.
It just makes no sense since it works sometimes and sometimes it does not.
Jann
I am afraid of loosing my saved mail if I delete the account and set up a new one. I also have several folders I file mail into if it is things like signup mail, certain genealogy mail or other such things.
It just makes no sense since it works sometimes and sometimes it does not.
Jann
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