9/23/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9784

15 New Messages

Digest #9784
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "TimeFramePhoto"
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "TimeFramePhoto"
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: iO7 & Closing Apps by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Yahoo Groups Interface by "Michel Munger" mmungermtl

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Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:15 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"TimeFramePhoto"

Hmm. Yes, Otto, up is on here and in every country I've ever visited. Sounds like a good excuse to visit the southern hemisphere!

On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Tony wrote:

> Yep. Bit odd. On is down for me too. Intuitive....
>
> From: Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com>
> To: "macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com" <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
>
> Isn't up *on* in the USA?
>
> Otto
>
> On 23 September 2013 07:21, George Barker <lynxster@ihug.com.au> wrote:
> Umm,... think Light Switches ?

Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

On 23/09/13 13:15, TimeFramePhoto wrote:
>
>
> Hmm. Yes, Otto, up is on here and in every country I've ever visited.
> Sounds like a good excuse to visit the southern hemisphere!

Down is on in most of Europe, which last time I checked was in the
Northern Hemisphere...

>
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Tony wrote:
>
>> Yep. Bit odd. On is down for me too. Intuitive....
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:*Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com
>> <mailto:otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com>>
>> *To:*"macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>"
>> <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>>
>> *Sent:*Monday, 23 September 2013 9:51 PM
>> *Subject:*Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
>>
>> Isn't up *on* in the USA?
>>
>> Otto
>>
>> On 23 September 2013 07:21, George Barker<lynxster@ihug.com.au
>> <mailto:lynxster@ihug.com.au>>wrote:
>>
>> Umm,... think Light Switches ?
>
>
>

Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

To complicate matters, although 'up' is usually 'on' in the US, lights at several locations in my home, in the stairway, for example, are controlled by two switches in separate locations. Whether a switch is set to 'on' or 'off' depends simply on whether the light is 'on' or 'off' at the time, not whether the switch is 'up' or 'down.&#39;

On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> On 23/09/13 13:15, TimeFramePhoto wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hmm. Yes, Otto, up is on here and in every country I've ever visited.
>> Sounds like a good excuse to visit the southern hemisphere!
>
> Down is on in most of Europe, which last time I checked was in the
> Northern Hemisphere...
>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Tony wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. Bit odd. On is down for me too. Intuitive....
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:*Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com
>>> <mailto:otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com>>
>>> *To:*"macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>"
>>> <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>>
>>> *Sent:*Monday, 23 September 2013 9:51 PM
>>> *Subject:*Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
>>>
>>> Isn't up *on* in the USA?
>>>
>>> Otto
>>>
>>> On 23 September 2013 07:21, George Barker<lynxster@ihug.com.au
>>> <mailto:lynxster@ihug.com.au>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Umm,... think Light Switches ?
>>
>>
>>
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Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

That's true wherever you have more than one switch controlling the same
light.

Otto

On 23 September 2013 13:44, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:

> To complicate matters, although 'up' is usually 'on' in the US, lights at
> several locations in my home, in the stairway, for example, are controlled
> by two switches in separate locations. Whether a switch is set to 'on' or
> 'off' depends simply on whether the light is 'on' or 'off' at the time, not
> whether the switch is 'up' or 'down.&#39;
>

Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:59 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Here being?

This says only the USA & Canada have up=on.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_switch#Up_or_down>

I like the idea of earthquake-prone countries having sideways switches. ;)

Otto

On 23 September 2013 13:15, TimeFramePhoto <macdane@mac.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hmm. Yes, Otto, up is on here and in every country I've ever visited.
> Sounds like a good excuse to visit the southern hemisphere!
>

Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"TimeFramePhoto"

Sorry, Otto, the US. So it seems Apple may have it right for most of the world, though I'd argue that from a UI perspective, most of the world has got light switches wrong ;-)

On Sep 23, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> Here being?
>
> This says only the USA & Canada have up=on.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_switch#Up_or_down>
>
> I like the idea of earthquake-prone countries having sideways switches. ;)
>
> Otto
>
>
> On 23 September 2013 13:15, TimeFramePhoto <macdane@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hmm. Yes, Otto, up is on here and in every country I've ever visited. Sounds like a good excuse to visit the southern hemisphere!

Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

On 23/09/13 15:18, TimeFramePhoto wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, Otto, the US. So it seems Apple may have it right for most of the
> world, though I'd argue that from a UI perspective, most of the world
> has got light switches wrong ;-)

I fail to see why there is any 'natural&#39; mapping between up/down and
off/on... Really, does it matter...

>
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
>> Here being?
>>
>> This says only the USA & Canada have up=on.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_switch#Up_or_down>
>>
>> I like the idea of earthquake-prone countries having sideways switches. ;)
>>
>> Otto
>>
>>
>> On 23 September 2013 13:15, TimeFramePhoto<macdane@mac.com
>> <mailto:macdane@mac.com>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm. Yes, Otto, up is on here and in every country I've ever
>> visited. Sounds like a good excuse to visit the southern hemisphere!
>
>
>

Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> For me, swiping up is quicker than holding finger on one app to set the jiggling in motion, then to tap the small x on every app.

If you have an "x" to tap on, then you are not in the multitasking tray, and shutting apps down, but are on a home screen, and are deleting apps from the machine entirely.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> Every time this question comes up, I wonder: am I the only one who's uncomfortable with the notion that a company founded on intuitive user interface is now asking us to equate up with off?
> Dane

So far, I think that you are the only one who has.
If it helps, think of picking that app up off the tray.
Just the way you remove things from the Dock in MacOS X.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> Isn't up *on* in the USA?
> Otto

Or left, or right, or down, depending on what kind of switch and how it was installed.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:43 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>> Isn't up *on* in the USA?
>> Otto
>
> Yep. Bit odd. On is down for me too. Intuitive....

You guys have never been in a room with double-pole, double-throw switches, where 2 separate switches, at the 2 entrances to the room, BOTH control the same light?

Whether up is "on" or "off" at one switch depends on the position of the other switch.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:

jrswebhome

Huge change this morning.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:

jrswebhome


Anyone got a clue how to increase the size of text in these new
group posts, without changing the monitors overall resolution or
View Size?


--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
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Huge change this morning.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michel Munger" mmungermtl

I was taken by surprise myself.

A new logo was just created to adjust to the new interface.

Michel (group owner)

jrswebhome@yahoo.com said:
> Huge change this morning.

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