9/22/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9777

15 New Messages

Digest #9777
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Re: Control Center drag to open by "Jim Hamm" jimhamm90
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Re: New IOS by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: New IOS by "Les Streater" linernut_uk
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Re: New IOS by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
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Re: New IOS by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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iTunes upgrades by "Patsy Price" beyondwords2
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Re: iTunes upgrades by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
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Re: iTunes upgrades by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
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Re: iTunes upgrades by "Bekah" bekalex
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Re: iTunes upgrades by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
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Re: iTunes upgrades by "Christopher Collins" cjc1959au
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High End Mac List - Forensics focused by "Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll
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Messages

Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:

timodonoghue

Update:

The final solution in my case was to slightly mod the case. I
dremeled (is that a word?) a shallow, semi-circular "notch" on
either side of the home button - just enough to expose a sliver
of the edge of the screen. Now the short upward drag is 100%
successful.




--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
<macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I upgraded my iPhone 5 to iOS 7 yesterday. No issues at al with
the process via WiFi.

One thing that didn't seem to work as described was the Control
Center. Supposedly dragging from the bottom of the screen does
the trick, but I could only get it to work in about 1 out of 10
tries. I have the phone in an OtterBox Defender case, and
thought maybe it was affecting the operation, so I removed it.
No real difference.

I finally figured out that the Control Center needs only a short
distance for the drag - sometimes only a distance of 1/2 to 3/4
of an inch - not the longer one of 1/3 to 1/2 the screen height.

I'm passing this along in case anyone else has the same issue.

Tim

Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Hamm" jimhamm90

I didn't realize I had a problem with Control Center till I read the
initial post on this forum. Then I tried to open it and failed. Messed
around a while and found it very erratic to open. Then Denver Dan posted a
suggestion which works perfectly for me. Interesting to read about
problems, and even more interesting to read about
solutions...(grin)...Thanks to all....Jim

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:52 AM, <tjod@runbox.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Update:
>
> The final solution in my case was to slightly mod the case. I dremeled (is
> that a word?) a shallow, semi-circular "notch" on either side of the home
> button - just enough to expose a sliver of the edge of the screen. Now the
> short upward drag is 100% successful.
>
>
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, <
> macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> I upgraded my iPhone 5 to iOS 7 yesterday. No issues at al with the
> process via WiFi.
>
> One thing that didn't seem to work as described was the Control Center.
> Supposedly dragging from the bottom of the screen does the trick, but I
> could only get it to work in about 1 out of 10 tries. I have the phone in
> an OtterBox Defender case, and thought maybe it was affecting the
> operation, so I removed it. No real difference.
>
> I finally figured out that the Control Center needs only a short distance
> for the drag - sometimes only a distance of 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch - not the
> longer one of 1/3 to 1/2 the screen height.
>
> I'm passing this along in case anyone else has the same issue.
>
> Tim
>
>
>

Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

Now if such a simple solution can be had for Mac OS X default fonts...

Dave

Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.

On 20 Sep 2013, at 11:14 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://osxdaily.com/2013/09/20/ios-7-font-hard-to-read-fix/

Find the iOS 7 Font Hard to Read? Make It Easier to Read with Bolder Text

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Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

I feel I'm being made mock of and the old dog may bit back. :-)

On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:10:12 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> I guess not on the double-click of Home. Feeling a bit chagrined.
>>
>> It's odd to have missed something like that for years but then I bet
>> I'm not the only one to have missed it.
>>
>> Denver Dan
>
> On the other hand, it's gratifying for us to teach the old dog a new
> trick....
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad

Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Les Streater" linernut_uk

Dan

As a long time lurker and learner of much valuable information from your good self - no-one is making a mock of you!

Long may you continue!

Les Streater

On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:01, Denver Dan wrote:

I feel I'm being made mock of and the old dog may bit back. :-)

Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

Well said!

Sent from my iPad...

> On Sep 21, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Les Streater <les.streater@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dan
>
>
> As a long time lurker and learner of much valuable information from your good self - no-one is making a mock of you!
>
> Long may you continue!
>
> Les Streater
>
>
>
> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:01, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>
> I feel I'm being made mock of and the old dog may bit back. :-)
>
>
>
>
>

Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Ah, Mr. Streater, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

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iSent from iDan's iPad

> On Sep 21, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Pat Taylor <pat412@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Well said!
>
> Sent from my iPad...
>
>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Les Streater <les.streater@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> As a long time lurker and learner of much valuable information from your good self - no-one is making a mock of you!
>>
>> Long may you continue!
>>
>> Les Streater
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:01, Denver Dan wrote:
>>
>>
>> I feel I'm being made mock of and the old dog may bit back. :-)
>
>
>

Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Patsy Price" beyondwords2

From now on, how can I know which of the frequent iTunes upgrades I
need, especially for security reasons? If I upgrade iTunes, do I have
to take the bad with the good? (I've heard a lot of negatives about
the latest upgrade, but they may not be relevant to me.) Should I
just keep accepting upgrades as long as they're available for my
setup?

I barely use iTunes on my mid-007 iMac with Snow Leopard 10.6.8
(where I'll stay as long as I can in order to keep Eudora). I now
have iTunes 11.0.5. I don't have a smartphone of any kind or an iPad
or iPod or even a laptop (except one with Windows 97, which I use
only for my accounts in Excel so I can work in a different room from
my iMac).

(I still have a G4 tower with Snow Leopard, which I fire up only
occasionally, mainly to access old files. I have no idea what version
of iTunes is on it.)

I have a total of 9 albums in iTunes on my iMac hard drive, all saved
from CDs. I occasionally listen to a CD without saving it. I don't
think I've ever listened to Internet radio. I don't remember ever
playing a podcast. I have never bought any music via the Internet. I
have never bought anything from the Apple Store. I don't even know
what else iTunes can do. I might someday want to learn how to play
music from the website of CBC (our beloved national radio network).

I do watch occasional YouTube videos. I don't even know if iTunes has
anything to do with those.

And on all the Mac discussion lists I belong to I have
deleted--almost always without reading--all the messages about iTunes
(and other topics) because I assumed they weren't relevant to me.

Now I'm humbly asking--what IS relevant to me?

Patsy
retired, almost broke, and happy

Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

If you are happy with what you have & the way you use your devices, I'd say just enjoy them. Otherwise, there is lots to learn & enjoy with many folks here who are happy to offer help.

On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Patsy Price <beyondwords@shaw.ca> wrote:

> From now on, how can I know which of the frequent iTunes upgrades I
> need, especially for security reasons? If I upgrade iTunes, do I have
> to take the bad with the good? (I've heard a lot of negatives about
> the latest upgrade, but they may not be relevant to me.) Should I
> just keep accepting upgrades as long as they're available for my
> setup?
>
> I barely use iTunes on my mid-007 iMac with Snow Leopard 10.6.8
> (where I'll stay as long as I can in order to keep Eudora). I now
> have iTunes 11.0.5. I don't have a smartphone of any kind or an iPad
> or iPod or even a laptop (except one with Windows 97, which I use
> only for my accounts in Excel so I can work in a different room from
> my iMac).
>
> (I still have a G4 tower with Snow Leopard, which I fire up only
> occasionally, mainly to access old files. I have no idea what version
> of iTunes is on it.)
>
> I have a total of 9 albums in iTunes on my iMac hard drive, all saved
> from CDs. I occasionally listen to a CD without saving it. I don't
> think I've ever listened to Internet radio. I don't remember ever
> playing a podcast. I have never bought any music via the Internet. I
> have never bought anything from the Apple Store. I don't even know
> what else iTunes can do. I might someday want to learn how to play
> music from the website of CBC (our beloved national radio network).
>
> I do watch occasional YouTube videos. I don't even know if iTunes has
> anything to do with those.
>
> And on all the Mac discussion lists I belong to I have
> deleted--almost always without reading--all the messages about iTunes
> (and other topics) because I assumed they weren't relevant to me.
>
> Now I'm humbly asking--what IS relevant to me?
>
> Patsy
> retired, almost broke, and happy
>
>

Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Since you only use iTunes on a computer, for now, there is no reason to upgrade. iTunes does everything you want it to do, so no need to change.

All the fuss is about the new operating system for iPhones. The new iTunes version for your computer won't give you anymore uses than what you need now.

I am reading reports, yet to be verified that moving to the new operating system on iPhones is not revertible, that is, once I go to 7, I can't uninstall and go back to 6 version. But that has nothing to do with your subject, but I found it interesting.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Patsy Price <beyondwords@...> wrote:
>
> From now on, how can I know which of the frequent iTunes upgrades I
> need, especially for security reasons? If I upgrade iTunes, do I have
> to take the bad with the good? (I've heard a lot of negatives about
> the latest upgrade, but they may not be relevant to me.) Should I
> just keep accepting upgrades as long as they're available for my
> setup?
>
> I barely use iTunes on my mid-007 iMac with Snow Leopard 10.6.8
> (where I'll stay as long as I can in order to keep Eudora). I now
> have iTunes 11.0.5. I don't have a smartphone of any kind or an iPad
> or iPod or even a laptop (except one with Windows 97, which I use
> only for my accounts in Excel so I can work in a different room from
> my iMac).
>
> (I still have a G4 tower with Snow Leopard, which I fire up only
> occasionally, mainly to access old files. I have no idea what version
> of iTunes is on it.)
>
> I have a total of 9 albums in iTunes on my iMac hard drive, all saved
> from CDs. I occasionally listen to a CD without saving it. I don't
> think I've ever listened to Internet radio. I don't remember ever
> playing a podcast. I have never bought any music via the Internet. I
> have never bought anything from the Apple Store. I don't even know
> what else iTunes can do. I might someday want to learn how to play
> music from the website of CBC (our beloved national radio network).
>
> I do watch occasional YouTube videos. I don't even know if iTunes has
> anything to do with those.
>
> And on all the Mac discussion lists I belong to I have
> deleted--almost always without reading--all the messages about iTunes
> (and other topics) because I assumed they weren't relevant to me.
>
> Now I'm humbly asking--what IS relevant to me?
>
> Patsy
> retired, almost broke, and happy
>

Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bekah" bekalex

I use iTunes on my computer and there was a little message this past week about how the upgrade to iTunes was necessary for the upgrade in the Mac (or something to that effect). I did both - iTunes first.

Bekah

On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:00 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Since you only use iTunes on a computer, for now, there is no reason to upgrade. iTunes does everything you want it to do, so no need to change.
>
> All the fuss is about the new operating system for iPhones. The new iTunes version for your computer won't give you anymore uses than what you need now.
>
> I am reading reports, yet to be verified that moving to the new operating system on iPhones is not revertible, that is, once I go to 7, I can't uninstall and go back to 6 version. But that has nothing to do with your subject, but I found it interesting.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Patsy Price <beyondwords@...> wrote:
>>
>> From now on, how can I know which of the frequent iTunes upgrades I
>> need, especially for security reasons? If I upgrade iTunes, do I have
>> to take the bad with the good? (I've heard a lot of negatives about
>> the latest upgrade, but they may not be relevant to me.) Should I
>> just keep accepting upgrades as long as they're available for my
>> setup?
>>
>> I barely use iTunes on my mid-007 iMac with Snow Leopard 10.6.8
>> (where I'll stay as long as I can in order to keep Eudora). I now
>> have iTunes 11.0.5. I don't have a smartphone of any kind or an iPad
>> or iPod or even a laptop (except one with Windows 97, which I use
>> only for my accounts in Excel so I can work in a different room from
>> my iMac).
>>
>> (I still have a G4 tower with Snow Leopard, which I fire up only
>> occasionally, mainly to access old files. I have no idea what version
>> of iTunes is on it.)
>>
>> I have a total of 9 albums in iTunes on my iMac hard drive, all saved
>> from CDs. I occasionally listen to a CD without saving it. I don't
>> think I've ever listened to Internet radio. I don't remember ever
>> playing a podcast. I have never bought any music via the Internet. I
>> have never bought anything from the Apple Store. I don't even know
>> what else iTunes can do. I might someday want to learn how to play
>> music from the website of CBC (our beloved national radio network).
>>
>> I do watch occasional YouTube videos. I don't even know if iTunes has
>> anything to do with those.
>>
>> And on all the Mac discussion lists I belong to I have
>> deleted--almost always without reading--all the messages about iTunes
>> (and other topics) because I assumed they weren't relevant to me.
>>
>> Now I'm humbly asking--what IS relevant to me?
>>
>> Patsy
>> retired, almost broke, and happy
>>
>
>
>
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

You did both what? The OP is only talking about her computer which runs perfectly as it is. Please share w us why your upgrade was necessary and urgent?

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Bekah <bekah0176@...> wrote:
>
> I use iTunes on my computer and there was a little message this past week about how the upgrade to iTunes was necessary for the upgrade in the Mac (or something to that effect). I did both - iTunes first.
>
> Bekah
>
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:00 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> > Since you only use iTunes on a computer, for now, there is no reason to upgrade. iTunes does everything you want it to do, so no need to change.
> >
> > All the fuss is about the new operating system for iPhones. The new iTunes version for your computer won't give you anymore uses than what you need now.
> >
> > I am reading reports, yet to be verified that moving to the new operating system on iPhones is not revertible, that is, once I go to 7, I can't uninstall and go back to 6 version. But that has nothing to do with your subject, but I found it interesting.
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Patsy Price <beyondwords@> wrote:
> >>
> >> From now on, how can I know which of the frequent iTunes upgrades I
> >> need, especially for security reasons? If I upgrade iTunes, do I have
> >> to take the bad with the good? (I've heard a lot of negatives about
> >> the latest upgrade, but they may not be relevant to me.) Should I
> >> just keep accepting upgrades as long as they're available for my
> >> setup?
> >>
> >> I barely use iTunes on my mid-007 iMac with Snow Leopard 10.6.8
> >> (where I'll stay as long as I can in order to keep Eudora). I now
> >> have iTunes 11.0.5. I don't have a smartphone of any kind or an iPad
> >> or iPod or even a laptop (except one with Windows 97, which I use
> >> only for my accounts in Excel so I can work in a different room from
> >> my iMac).
> >>
> >> (I still have a G4 tower with Snow Leopard, which I fire up only
> >> occasionally, mainly to access old files. I have no idea what version
> >> of iTunes is on it.)
> >>
> >> I have a total of 9 albums in iTunes on my iMac hard drive, all saved
> >> from CDs. I occasionally listen to a CD without saving it. I don't
> >> think I've ever listened to Internet radio. I don't remember ever
> >> playing a podcast. I have never bought any music via the Internet. I
> >> have never bought anything from the Apple Store. I don't even know
> >> what else iTunes can do. I might someday want to learn how to play
> >> music from the website of CBC (our beloved national radio network).
> >>
> >> I do watch occasional YouTube videos. I don't even know if iTunes has
> >> anything to do with those.
> >>
> >> And on all the Mac discussion lists I belong to I have
> >> deleted--almost always without reading--all the messages about iTunes
> >> (and other topics) because I assumed they weren't relevant to me.
> >>
> >> Now I'm humbly asking--what IS relevant to me?
> >>
> >> Patsy
> >> retired, almost broke, and happy
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Christopher Collins" cjc1959au

One must upgrade iTunes to v11.1 to be able to see iOS7 in iTunes.

cjc

On 22/09/2013, at 5:44 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You did both what? The OP is only talking about her computer which runs perfectly as it is. Please share w us why your upgrade was necessary and urgent?
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Bekah <bekah0176@...> wrote:
> >
> > I use iTunes on my computer and there was a little message this past week about how the upgrade to iTunes was necessary for the upgrade in the Mac (or something to that effect). I did both - iTunes first.
> >
> > Bekah
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:00 PM, HAL9000 <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Since you only use iTunes on a computer, for now, there is no reason to upgrade. iTunes does everything you want it to do, so no need to change.
> > >
> > > All the fuss is about the new operating system for iPhones. The new iTunes version for your computer won't give you anymore uses than what you need now.
> > >
> > > I am reading reports, yet to be verified that moving to the new operating system on iPhones is not revertible, that is, once I go to 7, I can't uninstall and go back to 6 version. But that has nothing to do with your subject, but I found it interesting.

Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macos_forensics/
I just thought our members would like this group.

Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Thanks Charles. Will have a look.

Otto

On 22 September 2013 06:47, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com> wrote:

> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macos_forensics/
> I just thought our members would like this group.
>