9/26/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9790

15 New Messages

Digest #9790
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Just installed iOS 7.0.2 by "Paul Smith" waldonny
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Re: To iOS7 & iTunes11 by "David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
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Re: To iOS7 & iTunes11 by "David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
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Re: To iOS7 & iTunes11 by "Katrin" kaekka
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Re: To iOS7 & iTunes11 by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: To iOS7 & iTunes11 by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Thunderbolt vs. Mini Display by "Michael Stupinaki" mstupinski
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Re: Thunderbolt vs. Mini Display by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Paul Smith" waldonny

It fixes the bypass-lockscreen issue, and a few other minor matters. Recommended for all users. Took only a few minutes to install.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro w/ Mac OS 10.8.5, iPhone 4S 64 GB and iPad 4 32 GB w/ iOS 7.0.2

Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Earle Jones" earlejones501


On Sep 26, 13, at 10:42 AM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:

>
> On 26Sep 2013, at 10:48 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet, really LEARN pages, and give up on MS Word Mac (I'm not keen on relicensing a newer version).
>
> There's also Apache Open Office. Price ($0) is even better than Pages!
>
> .
>
>

*
Robert: You will find that switching to 'Pages&#39; is much easier than you think.

Pages reminds me of Word 5.1, which is the version (10 years ago?) where 'Word' hit its peak. It has, in my opinion, been going downhill ever since.

Try it; you'll like it!

earle
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Earle Jones 
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@comcast.net

Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:

jrswebhome


This is only my opinion




Things I dislike about iTunes 11: Disgusting move from beautiful
10.

Playing Audio Books in landscape displays Music Albums




Things I really like of iOS7 on my iPhone4:

Smooth action.

Easy to double click, swipe up apps OFF. (Tons better than
before)

BLOCK Phone Contacts

Quick Swipe up the Control Panel for Camera, music player, etc.

Things I dislike about iOS7:

All text.

I don't think iPhone4 can adjust text as large as 5 and 5s can.

Blinding white backgrounds.

The manuals for the iOS7 are not phone specific,

therefore one doesn't know if a function is available for

the iPhone4 until you look at the iPhone4.




Overall iOS7 is much worth the change.

But you have no choice if you try to restore your iPhone.

Be sure once you go to iOS7, RESET Setting to default.

Then adjust settings. It saves a lot of weird behavior I ran into
after conversion.





---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
<macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:40 , jrswebhome@...
<mailto:jrswebhome@...> wrote:
Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac.
Apple responded:
There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version,
no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on
your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!!!!"
Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.After
all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings todefault,
then change to new settings.
I also have an iPhone 4 but haven't upgraded. (I've heard very
mixed reports.)
Aside from your possible dissatisfaction with iOS 7 itself, how
does the phone perform compared with iOS 6?
Thank you,
David


Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:03 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 , jrswebhome@yahoo.com wrote:
> Things I dislike about iOS7:
>
> All text.
>
> I don't think iPhone4 can adjust text as large as 5 and 5s can.
>
> Blinding white backgrounds.
>
> The manuals for the iOS7 are not phone specific,
>
> therefore one doesn't know if a function is available for
>
> the iPhone4 until you look at the iPhone4.
>
> Overall iOS7 is much worth the change.
>

So, no particular speed slowdown? (That is the main complaint I have read about.)

David

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

jrswebhome


Not on my iPhone4. I like 7. I'm not sure what others are running
into. Mine seems smooth and fast.




Did I say I can't stand iTunes 11?

Did I say I can't stand Yahoo Groups new interface on a 27" iMac?


---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
<macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 , jrswebhome@...
<mailto:jrswebhome@...> wrote:
Things I dislike about iOS7:

All text.

I don't think iPhone4 can adjust text as large as 5 and 5s can.

Blinding white backgrounds.

The manuals for the iOS7 are not phone specific,

therefore one doesn't know if a function is available for

the iPhone4 until you look at the iPhone4.

Overall iOS7 is much worth the change.

So, no particular speed slowdown? (That is the main complaint I
have read about.)
David

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:16 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

jrswebhome


> Playing Audio Books in landscape displays Music Albums





Should have been in iOS7 remarks.





---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
<macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


This is only my opinion




Things I dislike about iTunes 11: Disgusting move from beautiful
10.

Playing Audio Books in landscape displays Music Albums




Things I really like of iOS7 on my iPhone4:

Smooth action.

Easy to double click, swipe up apps OFF. (Tons better than
before)

BLOCK Phone Contacts

Quick Swipe up the Control Panel for Camera, music player, etc.

Things I dislike about iOS7:

All text.

I don't think iPhone4 can adjust text as large as 5 and 5s can.

Blinding white backgrounds.

The manuals for the iOS7 are not phone specific,

therefore one doesn't know if a function is available for

the iPhone4 until you look at the iPhone4.




Overall iOS7 is much worth the change.

But you have no choice if you try to restore your iPhone.

Be sure once you go to iOS7, RESET Setting to default.

Then adjust settings. It saves a lot of weird behavior I ran into
after conversion.





---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
<macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:40 , jrswebhome@...
<mailto:jrswebhome@...> wrote:
Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac.
Apple responded:
There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version,
no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on
your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!!!!"
Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.After
all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings todefault,
then change to new settings.
I also have an iPhone 4 but haven't upgraded. (I've heard very
mixed reports.)
Aside from your possible dissatisfaction with iOS 7 itself, how
does the phone perform compared with iOS 6?
Thank you,
David


Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

jrswebhome


One more and I will stop:




We don't have a choice about upgrading to iOS7 if you plan on
storing a backup of your iPhone on your computer. And in order to
get 7 you must have iTunes 11 (drat) on your computer.


---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
<macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:56 , jrswebhome@...
<mailto:jrswebhome@...> wrote:
Things I dislike about iOS7:

All text.

I don't think iPhone4 can adjust text as large as 5 and 5s can.

Blinding white backgrounds.

The manuals for the iOS7 are not phone specific,

therefore one doesn't know if a function is available for

the iPhone4 until you look at the iPhone4.

Overall iOS7 is much worth the change.

So, no particular speed slowdown? (That is the main complaint I
have read about.)
David

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:07 , jrswebhome@yahoo.com wrote:

> Not on my iPhone4. I like 7. I'm not sure what others are running into. Mine seems smooth and fast.

I am very glad to hear it. Others say that there is a lag in switching between applications and more seriously that there is a long delay in keyboarding, sending e-mail and messaging.

I wonder if it is because of adjustments you have made? (You mentioned you reset all settings to default.)

David

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

jrswebhome


After downloading and opening iOS7, it appeared to operate very
clumsily. So I decided, just do the old RESET to default setting
of iOS7. It was smooth afterwards. Still is today after using for
three days.




I don't know if it helps, but I unsynced all
tv/movie/picture/large game App files I had loaded on the
iPhone4. Then synced them later.


---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
<macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:07 , jrswebhome@...
<mailto:jrswebhome@...> wrote:
Not on my iPhone4. I like 7. I'm not sure what others are running
into. Mine seems smooth and fast.

I am very glad to hear it. Others say that there is a lag in
switching between applications and more seriously that there is a
long delay in keyboarding, sending e-mail and messaging.
I wonder if it is because of adjustments you have made? (You
mentioned you reset all settings to default.)
David

Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Katrin" kaekka



Take a look: http://weblogit.net/ios-firmware/

The instructions how to "downgrade&quot; are available in German only I think. If you don't know how to do it you need to search the web. Maybe I can help translating if needed.

Katrin

Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to default, then change to new settings.
>
> I immediately turned on Bold Text.
> I can't look at the Notes App without sunglasses.

With Control Center, it hgas become terminally simple to change the brightness level.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> Here's what I'm thinking of trying:
>
> 1. Backup my phone to iTunes
> 2. Unplug and update my phone
> 3. Try iOS7 out
> 4. If necessary, restore from backup to get back to where I am now
>
> Any reason that wouldn't work? The less-desirable alternative would be to update the iPad I rarely use and play around with that for awhile.
>
> Dane

1. Restore from backup, I'm pretty sure, does NOT restore the operating system.

2. Apple is not activating new installations of iOS 6.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:58 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinaki" mstupinski

My son has MacBook Air and had looked at the Samsung 21" monitor recommended here lately. Unfortunately, the monitor didn't have a Thunderbolt port, only an HDMI port and, of course, the MBA has no HDMI port.

A search for an HDMI to Thunderbolt adapter was fruitless, and a posting to the Apple Communities got no results.

Today, at a Best Buy store, I found a "Thunderbolt/MiniDisplay port to HDMI" adapter by Rocketfish
On the shelf. When I went to the Rocketfish website I found the adapter (RP-AP305) shown but there was no reference to Thunderbolt in the description.

The Thunderbolt and MiniDisplay ports look very similar. Are they interchangeable?

........Mike

Sent from my iPhone

Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:59 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

I'm surprised you couldn't find an HDMI-TB adapter. I got one from Amazon
UK for use with a standard HDMI cable. I use this to connect my MBP to the
TV so it needed to have audio support. The brand is Monoprice but there are
others. Here's a link to these at Amazon US.
<
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=thunderbolt+to+hdmi+adapter>
or
<http://amzn.to/18shPwi>

Yes, TB uses the same port and plug as MIniDisplayPort.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)>

Otto

On 26 September 2013 19:58, Michael Stupinaki <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:

> My son has MacBook Air and had looked at the Samsung 21" monitor
> recommended here lately. Unfortunately, the monitor didn't have a
> Thunderbolt port, only an HDMI port and, of course, the MBA has no HDMI
> port.
>
> A search for an HDMI to Thunderbolt adapter was fruitless, and a posting
> to the Apple Communities got no results.
>
> Today, at a Best Buy store, I found a "Thunderbolt/MiniDisplay port to
> HDMI" adapter by Rocketfish
> On the shelf. When I went to the Rocketfish website I found the adapter
> (RP-AP305) shown but there was no reference to Thunderbolt in the
> description.
>
> The Thunderbolt and MiniDisplay ports look very similar. Are they
> interchangeable?
>

Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:06 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

jsm5320432


Sorry, but I guess I don't grasp the point you're trying to make.
What Apple does with it's iOS doesn't translate into an iPhone v
android comparison. More to the point is the iOS6 v iOS7
comparison. So far I am not impressed with iOS7 for various
reasons.







---In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com,
<macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Just show it to an android user ... they seem to like it just
fine!
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, jsm5320432@...
<mailto:jsm5320432@...> wrote:
Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has
resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in
"uggh".