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Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:13 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 26/09/13 11:53, Tony wrote:
>
>
> I dont really follow this. iOS 7 has a different look, but its still the
> same, age old iOS, but with a slightly different look. What was there
> before is still there, plus some useful features that don''t overcrowd
> it. Moving apps up to turn them off, is that really that big a deal?
> Its much better then holding one app for 2-3 seconds then touching the
> wee red x on each one to remove it. Its simpler and faster, is that not
> good?
+1
I for one really like the new look, I think its a step forward from iOS
6... and whilst I would not call myself old, I ain't young any more either.
A change like this will always find those who like it, and those that
don't. That is normal. The main thing is if most think its an
improvement, and my reading of things (based on a few articles on the
web etc., so not exactly scientific) is yes, they do.
cheers Chris
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.net>
> *To:* macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013 9:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> >
> >>> Every time this question comes up, I wonder: am I the only one
> who's uncomfortable with the notion that a company founded on intuitive
> user interface is now asking us to equate up with off?
> >>> Dane
> >>
> >> So far, I think that you are the only one who has.
> >> If it helps, think of picking that app up off the tray.
> >> Just the way you remove things from the Dock in MacOS X.
> >> ''''
> > That was just the tip of the iceberg. Dane is not alone. The
> "computer for the rest of us" has become monstrously mysterious with
> lots of processes running invisible, full of iCould requirements, hugely
> changed interfaces including almost unreadable fonts/background
> combinations.
> >
> > The interface feels to me something like a visit to a Museum of
> Modern Art where you kind of have to focus in and figure out what they
> are trying to tell you. And I'm MUCH older now than when I started so
> enthusiastically with Mac and started a vibrant consulting side business.
> >
> > It is now so complex and mysterious that I've lost interest. I"m sure
> the younger members will take to it. (Actually I'm NOT sure evan about
> that.)
> >
> > I think the younger members will feel much freer to switch to
> Samsung, or whatever. iCloud, horrific iOS user interface (grey on grey,
> REALLY, even worse than the earlier iCal, which was bad enough. In iCal
> there is not even any differentiation between dates in the previous/next
> months - it's all grey on grey. This is all "modern art," not user
> interface.
> >
> > I'm about done.
> >
> > I feel so bad about it.
> >
> > All these years I haVe helped people move to Mac, and now I think
> it's no better than the competition. In some ways, worse. Apple appears
> to me all about style and the user is the loser. Well, there's still the
> virus advantage, but I truly think that advantage is eroding.
> >
> >
> > End of rant for the evening.
> >
> > Daly
> >
> >
>
> Well said, Daly. I second your sentiments! I'm really concerned with the
> direction we seem to be going.
>
> John Engberg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I dont really follow this. iOS 7 has a different look, but its still the
> same, age old iOS, but with a slightly different look. What was there
> before is still there, plus some useful features that don''
> it. Moving apps up to turn them off, is that really that big a deal?
> Its much better then holding one app for 2-3 seconds then touching the
> wee red x on each one to remove it. Its simpler and faster, is that not
> good?
+1
I for one really like the new look, I think its a step forward from iOS
6... and whilst I would not call myself old, I ain't young any more either.
A change like this will always find those who like it, and those that
don't. That is normal. The main thing is if most think its an
improvement, and my reading of things (based on a few articles on the
web etc., so not exactly scientific) is yes, they do.
cheers Chris
>
> ------------
> *From:* John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.
> *To:* macsupportcentral@
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013 9:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.
>
> >
> > On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> >
> >>> Every time this question comes up, I wonder: am I the only one
> who's uncomfortable with the notion that a company founded on intuitive
> user interface is now asking us to equate up with off?
> >>> Dane
> >>
> >> So far, I think that you are the only one who has.
> >> If it helps, think of picking that app up off the tray.
> >> Just the way you remove things from the Dock in MacOS X.
> >> ''&#
> > That was just the tip of the iceberg. Dane is not alone. The
> "computer for the rest of us" has become monstrously mysterious with
> lots of processes running invisible, full of iCould requirements, hugely
> changed interfaces including almost unreadable fonts/background
> combinations.
> >
> > The interface feels to me something like a visit to a Museum of
> Modern Art where you kind of have to focus in and figure out what they
> are trying to tell you. And I'm MUCH older now than when I started so
> enthusiastically with Mac and started a vibrant consulting side business.
> >
> > It is now so complex and mysterious that I've lost interest. I"m sure
> the younger members will take to it. (Actually I'm NOT sure evan about
> that.)
> >
> > I think the younger members will feel much freer to switch to
> Samsung, or whatever. iCloud, horrific iOS user interface (grey on grey,
> REALLY, even worse than the earlier iCal, which was bad enough. In iCal
> there is not even any differentiation between dates in the previous/next
> months - it's all grey on grey. This is all "modern art," not user
> interface.
> >
> > I'm about done.
> >
> > I feel so bad about it.
> >
> > All these years I haVe helped people move to Mac, and now I think
> it's no better than the competition. In some ways, worse. Apple appears
> to me all about style and the user is the loser. Well, there's still the
> virus advantage, but I truly think that advantage is eroding.
> >
> >
> > End of rant for the evening.
> >
> > Daly
> >
> >
>
> Well said, Daly. I second your sentiments! I'm really concerned with the
> direction we seem to be going.
>
> John Engberg
>
>
>
>
>
>
Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:01 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> All these years I haVe helped people move to Mac, and now I think it's no better than the competition. In some ways, worse. Apple appears to me all about style and the user is the loser. Well, there's still the virus advantage, but I truly think that advantage is eroding.
>>
>> End of rant for the evening.
>> Daly
>
> Well said, Daly. I second your sentiments! I'm really concerned with the direction we seem to be going.
> John Engberg
There are, obviously, MANY, MANY people who have no problem with where "we" seem to be going.
The obvious solution, if you don't like where you're going, is: don't GO there....
>>
>> End of rant for the evening.
>> Daly
>
> Well said, Daly. I second your sentiments! I'm really concerned with the direction we seem to be going.
> John Engberg
There are, obviously, MANY, MANY people who have no problem with where "we" seem to be going.
The obvious solution, if you don't like where you're going, is: don't GO there....
Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:
jsm5320432
I just upgraded my iphone 4S to ios7 and confused about what were
fairly straight-forward commands. For example, when you try to
set "Do not disturb" in the settings menu, it reads, "When do not
disturb is enabled calls and alerts that arrive while locked will
be silenced, and a moon icon will appear in the status bar".
In the old settings one could switch on "do not disturb" and only
certain calls/messages would be allowed to ring through to the
phone. Now however, the instructions imply the phone must be
locked(?) to make it work.
I just had my phone (while locked) sent through a text when I
suspect it shouldn'
"non favorite" it got through.
My complaint on the calendar is the same as some others. Harder
to read is not better and the white/gray does not work as good as
the old calendar. Not all times is one sitting in perfect
lighting conditions under which I assume the person(s) who
thought this would be cool must have "tested" the new calendar
look. Bold text setting seems to help moderately but not enough.
Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has
resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in
"uggh"
Can't say Apple even hit the target with this "upgrade" let alone
the bulls eye.
John
---In macsupportcentral@
<macsupportcentral@
I dont really follow this. iOS 7 has a different look, but its
still the same, age old iOS, but with a slightly different look.
What was there before is still there, plus some useful features
that don''
that really that big a deal? Its much better then holding one app
for 2-3 seconds then touching the wee red x on each one to remove
it. Its simpler and faster, is that not good?
From: John Engberg <mrbyte@.
To: macsupportcentral@
Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] iO7 & Closing Apps
On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@.
>
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>>> Every time this question comes up, I wonder: am I the only
one who's uncomfortable with the notion that a company founded on
intuitive user interface is now asking us to equate up with off?
>>> Dane
>>
>> So far, I think that you are the only one who has.
>> If it helps, think of picking that app up off the tray.
>> Just the way you remove things from the Dock in MacOS X.
>> ''&#
> That was just the tip of the iceberg. Dane is not alone. The
"computer for the rest of us" has become monstrously mysterious
with lots of processes running invisible, full of iCould
requirements, hugely changed interfaces including almost
unreadable fonts/background combinations.
>
> The interface feels to me something like a visit to a Museum of
Modern Art where you kind of have to focus in and figure out what
they are trying to tell you. And I'm MUCH older now than when I
started so enthusiastically with Mac and started a vibrant
consulting side business.
>
> It is now so complex and mysterious that I've lost interest.
I"m sure the younger members will take to it. (Actually I'm NOT
sure evan about that.)
>
> I think the younger members will feel much freer to switch to
Samsung, or whatever. iCloud, horrific iOS user interface (grey
on grey, REALLY, even worse than the earlier iCal, which was bad
enough. In iCal there is not even any differentiation between
dates in the previous/next months - it's all grey on grey. This
is all "modern art," not user interface.
>
> I'm about done.
>
> I feel so bad about it.
>
> All these years I haVe helped people move to Mac, and now I
think it's no better than the competition. In some ways, worse.
Apple appears to me all about style and the user is the loser.
Well, there's still the virus advantage, but I truly think that
advantage is eroding.
>
>
> End of rant for the evening.
>
> Daly
>
>
Well said, Daly. I second your sentiments! I'm really concerned
with the direction we seem to be going.
John Engberg
Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"TimeFramePhoto"
Just show it to an android user ... they seem to like it just fine!
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, jsm5320432@yahoo.com wrote:
> Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in "uggh".
>
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, jsm5320432@yahoo.
> Generally, my showing the new iOS to three people so far has resulted in responses from revulsion to head shaking - as in "uggh"
>
Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:00 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
From my online research, it appears that Mountain Lion has deprecated *and completely removed* support for connecting to "PreXP" versions of SMB (Samba). In Lion, support was disabled, but could be enabled. I have been completely unable to find any workaround or "fix" except that the file manager "MUCommander" will run on Mountain Lion and connect to older Samba shares internally. In Mt. Lion, support is simply gone and cannot be enabled or "fixed" in any way.
As a practical matter, this means 10.8 will not connect to older servers, NAS boxes, or folder shares that still use older versions of Samba. I think this means Samba v1 and maybe v2, but I can say for sure. From my experience, certainly anything 2006 and earlier.
Mountain Lion has also deprecated AFP, though I have not researched this as thoroughly.
I'd love to be wrong, as this means I cannot upgrade my offices to Mountain Lion, so if you believe otherwise, I'd love to hear from you.
Otherwise, you have been warned.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
2233 Wisconsin Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20007
202-342-0001
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
As a practical matter, this means 10.8 will not connect to older servers, NAS boxes, or folder shares that still use older versions of Samba. I think this means Samba v1 and maybe v2, but I can say for sure. From my experience, certainly anything 2006 and earlier.
Mountain Lion has also deprecated AFP, though I have not researched this as thoroughly.
I'd love to be wrong, as this means I cannot upgrade my offices to Mountain Lion, so if you believe otherwise, I'd love to hear from you.
Otherwise, you have been warned.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
2233 Wisconsin Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20007
202-342-0001
todhopkins@hillmann
Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I don't know about older versions of SMB but as far as I can see AFP is
still present and correct in System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing.
Otto
10.8.5
On 26 September 2013 15:00, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>
>
> From my online research, it appears that Mountain Lion has deprecated *and
> completely removed* support for connecting to "PreXP" versions of SMB
> (Samba). In Lion, support was disabled, but could be enabled. I have been
> completely unable to find any workaround or "fix" except that the file
> manager "MUCommander" will run on Mountain Lion and connect to older Samba
> shares internally. In Mt. Lion, support is simply gone and cannot be
> enabled or "fixed" in any way.
>
> As a practical matter, this means 10.8 will not connect to older servers,
> NAS boxes, or folder shares that still use older versions of Samba. I
> think this means Samba v1 and maybe v2, but I can say for sure. From my
> experience, certainly anything 2006 and earlier.
>
> Mountain Lion has also deprecated AFP, though I have not researched this
> as thoroughly.
>
> I'd love to be wrong, as this means I cannot upgrade my offices to
> Mountain Lion, so if you believe otherwise, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Otherwise, you have been warned.
>
still present and correct in System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing.
Otto
10.8.5
On 26 September 2013 15:00, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncar
>
>
> From my online research, it appears that Mountain Lion has deprecated *and
> completely removed* support for connecting to "PreXP" versions of SMB
> (Samba). In Lion, support was disabled, but could be enabled. I have been
> completely unable to find any workaround or "fix" except that the file
> manager "MUCommander&q
> shares internally. In Mt. Lion, support is simply gone and cannot be
> enabled or "fixed" in any way.
>
> As a practical matter, this means 10.8 will not connect to older servers,
> NAS boxes, or folder shares that still use older versions of Samba. I
> think this means Samba v1 and maybe v2, but I can say for sure. From my
> experience, certainly anything 2006 and earlier.
>
> Mountain Lion has also deprecated AFP, though I have not researched this
> as thoroughly.
>
> I'd love to be wrong, as this means I cannot upgrade my offices to
> Mountain Lion, so if you believe otherwise, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Otherwise, you have been warned.
>
Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Current versions of both AFP and SMB are still supported. I'm talking only about older versions, circa 2006.
The error you would see contains the explanation: "The version of the server you are trying to connect to is not supported."
In the case of SMB, my research indicates that support is completely removed and there is no workaround. I am not able to make that conclusion with early AFP. Support may still be there, though I have not found a fix that works for me.
cheers,
tod
On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> I don't know about older versions of SMB but as far as I can see AFP is still present and correct in System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing.
>
> Otto
> 10.8.5
>
> On 26 September 2013 15:00, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>
>
> From my online research, it appears that Mountain Lion has deprecated *and completely removed* support for connecting to "PreXP" versions of SMB (Samba). In Lion, support was disabled, but could be enabled. I have been completely unable to find any workaround or "fix" except that the file manager "MUCommander" will run on Mountain Lion and connect to older Samba shares internally. In Mt. Lion, support is simply gone and cannot be enabled or "fixed" in any way.
>
> As a practical matter, this means 10.8 will not connect to older servers, NAS boxes, or folder shares that still use older versions of Samba. I think this means Samba v1 and maybe v2, but I can say for sure. From my experience, certainly anything 2006 and earlier.
>
> Mountain Lion has also deprecated AFP, though I have not researched this as thoroughly.
>
> I'd love to be wrong, as this means I cannot upgrade my offices to Mountain Lion, so if you believe otherwise, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Otherwise, you have been warned.
>
>
>
The error you would see contains the explanation: "The version of the server you are trying to connect to is not supported."
In the case of SMB, my research indicates that support is completely removed and there is no workaround. I am not able to make that conclusion with early AFP. Support may still be there, though I have not found a fix that works for me.
cheers,
tod
On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> I don't know about older versions of SMB but as far as I can see AFP is still present and correct in System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing.
>
> Otto
> 10.8.5
>
> On 26 September 2013 15:00, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncar
>
>
> From my online research, it appears that Mountain Lion has deprecated *and completely removed* support for connecting to "PreXP" versions of SMB (Samba). In Lion, support was disabled, but could be enabled. I have been completely unable to find any workaround or "fix" except that the file manager "MUCommander&q
>
> As a practical matter, this means 10.8 will not connect to older servers, NAS boxes, or folder shares that still use older versions of Samba. I think this means Samba v1 and maybe v2, but I can say for sure. From my experience, certainly anything 2006 and earlier.
>
> Mountain Lion has also deprecated AFP, though I have not researched this as thoroughly.
>
> I'd love to be wrong, as this means I cannot upgrade my offices to Mountain Lion, so if you believe otherwise, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Otherwise, you have been warned.
>
>
>
Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"James Robertson" jamesrob328i
I have Office Mac 2008 on my dual 2.8 GHz Xenon quad core Mac Pro and my 15" Retina Display MacBook Pro (both have fully updated OS and all application updates applied).
On my ordinarily "superspeedy" MacBook Pro, launching the app, opening a new document from template gallery, and renaming (Save as...) or saving changes to an existing document all take Word a very long time (well over a minute) while the metal pizza cutter cursor spins and the <Command-Option-Escape>; "Force Quit Applications" dialog tells me that Word is "not responding."
I recall seeing discussions on this or another Mac listserv indicating that Word's font cache could get corrupted and cause problems. Could that be the problem here? If so, can someone point me to the recipe to correct the issue?
Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet, really LEARN pages, and give up on MS Word Mac (I'm not keen on relicensing a newer version).
Thanks,
Jim Robertson
On my ordinarily "superspeedy&q
I recall seeing discussions on this or another Mac listserv indicating that Word's font cache could get corrupted and cause problems. Could that be the problem here? If so, can someone point me to the recipe to correct the issue?
Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet, really LEARN pages, and give up on MS Word Mac (I'm not keen on relicensing a newer version).
Thanks,
Jim Robertson
Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:29 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Try using the free maintenance utility OnyX. It has the ability to
delete Apple's ATF font caches as well as Microsoft, Adobe, and Quark
font caches.
If you do a Safe Disk boot (press Shift during boot), the Mac starts up
and deletes Apple's ATF font caches, does a disk check, and turns off
items that load automatically but it doesn't delete the Microsoft,
Adobe, and Quark font caches.
For newcomers to the Macintosh, ATF means Apple Typographic System. It
used to be a series of visible files but a couple of years ago Apple
made them invisible hence using a utility like OnyX is try useful.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:48:37 -0700, James Robertson wrote:
> I have Office Mac 2008 on my dual 2.8 GHz Xenon quad core Mac Pro and
> my 15" Retina Display MacBook Pro (both have fully updated OS and all
> application updates applied).
>
> On my ordinarily "superspeedy" MacBook Pro, launching the app,
> opening a new document from template gallery, and renaming (Save
> as...) or saving changes to an existing document all take Word a very
> long time (well over a minute) while the metal pizza cutter cursor
> spins and the <Command-Option-Escape>; "Force Quit Applications"
> dialog tells me that Word is "not responding."
>
> I recall seeing discussions on this or another Mac listserv
> indicating that Word's font cache could get corrupted and cause
> problems. Could that be the problem here? If so, can someone point me
> to the recipe to correct the issue?
>
> Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet, really LEARN pages, and give up
> on MS Word Mac (I'm not keen on relicensing a newer version).
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Robertson
Try using the free maintenance utility OnyX. It has the ability to
delete Apple's ATF font caches as well as Microsoft, Adobe, and Quark
font caches.
If you do a Safe Disk boot (press Shift during boot), the Mac starts up
and deletes Apple's ATF font caches, does a disk check, and turns off
items that load automatically but it doesn't delete the Microsoft,
Adobe, and Quark font caches.
For newcomers to the Macintosh, ATF means Apple Typographic System. It
used to be a series of visible files but a couple of years ago Apple
made them invisible hence using a utility like OnyX is try useful.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:48:37 -0700, James Robertson wrote:
> I have Office Mac 2008 on my dual 2.8 GHz Xenon quad core Mac Pro and
> my 15" Retina Display MacBook Pro (both have fully updated OS and all
> application updates applied).
>
> On my ordinarily "superspeedy&q
> opening a new document from template gallery, and renaming (Save
> as...) or saving changes to an existing document all take Word a very
> long time (well over a minute) while the metal pizza cutter cursor
> spins and the <Command-
> dialog tells me that Word is "not responding."
>
> I recall seeing discussions on this or another Mac listserv
> indicating that Word's font cache could get corrupted and cause
> problems. Could that be the problem here? If so, can someone point me
> to the recipe to correct the issue?
>
> Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet, really LEARN pages, and give up
> on MS Word Mac (I'm not keen on relicensing a newer version).
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Robertson
Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:42 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Julian Thomas"
On 26Sep 2013, at 10:48 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.
> Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet, really LEARN pages, and give up on MS Word Mac (I'm not keen on relicensing a newer version).
There's also Apache Open Office. Price ($0) is even better than Pages!
--
jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.
Murphy's best friend was a computer.
Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:
jrswebhome
Settings -> Phone -> Blocked
(as long as you make them a contact) iOS will block the future
calls. Fabulous answer to creepy telemarketers, and ex-whatevers.
(as long as you make them a contact) iOS will block the future
calls. Fabulous answer to creepy telemarketers, and ex-whatevers.
Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:
jrswebhome
Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac.
Apple responded:
There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version,
no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on
your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!!!!"
Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.After
all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings todefault,
then change to new settings.
I immediately turned on Bold Text.I can't look at the Notes App
without sunglasses.
Apple responded:
There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version,
no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on
your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!
Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.After
all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings todefault,
then change to new settings.
I immediately turned on Bold Text.I can't look at the Notes App
without sunglasses.
Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:03 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"TimeFramePhoto"
Here's what I'm thinking of trying:
1. Backup my phone to iTunes
2. Unplug and update my phone
3. Try iOS7 out
4. If necessary, restore from backup to get back to where I am now
Any reason that wouldn't work? The less-desirable alternative would be to update the iPad I rarely use and play around with that for awhile.
Dane
On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:40 PM, jrswebhome@yahoo.com wrote:
> Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac. Apple responded:
>
> There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version, no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!!!!"
>
> Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.
> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to
> default, then change to new settings.
>
> I immediately turned on Bold Text.
> I can't look at the Notes App without sunglasses.
1. Backup my phone to iTunes
2. Unplug and update my phone
3. Try iOS7 out
4. If necessary, restore from backup to get back to where I am now
Any reason that wouldn't work? The less-desirable alternative would be to update the iPad I rarely use and play around with that for awhile.
Dane
On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:40 PM, jrswebhome@yahoo.
> Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac. Apple responded:
>
> There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version, no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!
>
> Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.
> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to
> default, then change to new settings.
>
> I immediately turned on Bold Text.
> I can't look at the Notes App without sunglasses.
Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue
It won't get you back to iOS 6.
Any backup - iTunes or iCloud - backs up settings, etc. but not the OS.
Restoring from a backup will only put back items other than iOS 7.
> TimeFramePhoto <mailto:macdane@mac.com>
> September 26, 2013 11:02 AM
>
> Here's what I'm thinking of trying:
>
>
> 1. Backup my phone to iTunes
> 2. Unplug and update my phone
> 3. Try iOS7 out
> 4. If necessary, restore from backup to get back to where I am now
>
> Any reason that wouldn't work? The less-desirable alternative would be
> to update the iPad I rarely use and play around with that for awhile.
>
> Dane
>
>
>
> jrswebhome@yahoo.com <mailto:jrswebhome@yahoo.com>
> September 26, 2013 10:40 AM
>
> Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac. Apple
> responded:
>
>
> There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version, no
> way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on your
> iMac. SURPRISE!!!!!!!"
>
> Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.
> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to
> default, then change to new settings.
>
> I immediately turned on Bold Text.
> I can't look at the Notes App without sunglasses.
>
>
>
>
Any backup - iTunes or iCloud - backs up settings, etc. but not the OS.
Restoring from a backup will only put back items other than iOS 7.
> TimeFramePhoto <mailto:macdane@mac.
> September 26, 2013 11:02 AM
>
> Here's what I'm thinking of trying:
>
>
> 1. Backup my phone to iTunes
> 2. Unplug and update my phone
> 3. Try iOS7 out
> 4. If necessary, restore from backup to get back to where I am now
>
> Any reason that wouldn't work? The less-desirable alternative would be
> to update the iPad I rarely use and play around with that for awhile.
>
> Dane
>
>
>
> jrswebhome@yahoo.
> September 26, 2013 10:40 AM
>
> Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac. Apple
> responded:
>
>
> There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version, no
> way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on your
> iMac. SURPRISE!!!!
>
> Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.
> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to
> default, then change to new settings.
>
> I immediately turned on Bold Text.
> I can't look at the Notes App without sunglasses.
>
>
>
>
Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:25 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:40 , jrswebhome@yahoo.com wrote:
> Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac. Apple responded:
>
> There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version, no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!!!!"
>
> Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.
> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to
> default, then change to new settings.
I also have an iPhone 4 but haven't upgraded. (I've heard very mixed reports.)
Aside from your possible dissatisfaction with iOS 7 itself, how does the phone perform compared with iOS 6?
Thank you,
David
> Monday I wanted to restore my iPhone4 from backup on my iMac. Apple responded:
>
> There ain't no way I am going to redownload iOS6x in any version, no way. And further, nothing but iTunes 11x will download iOS7 on your iMac. SURPRISE!!!!
>
> Guess we can forget about backward compatibility for awhile.
> After all the downloading it helped to RESET all settings to
> default, then change to new settings.
I also have an iPhone 4 but haven't upgraded. (I've heard very mixed reports.)
Aside from your possible dissatisfaction with iOS 7 itself, how does the phone perform compared with iOS 6?
Thank you,
David
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