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Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
> Not trusting iCloud I had always synced via the iMac, until year
> later, my iMac crashed and OSX had to be reinstalled.
> Now my iPod Touch and iPads were not associated with it. When I
> attempted to associate & resync I was told all the songs elongated
> to someone else. Add the music on the Touch and iPads would be
> erased and only 17 would be copied back in.
Besides always having an external HD to back up your data, I suggest you buy an external DVD or Blu-Ray burner and make your own permanent physical backup of your data, for those special occasions when the cloud burps, or your backup trashes itself. Time Machine trashed itself when I ran out of room. NO WARNING.
Or you can go on trusting in the cloud.
> later, my iMac crashed and OSX had to be reinstalled.
> Now my iPod Touch and iPads were not associated with it. When I
> attempted to associate & resync I was told all the songs elongated
> to someone else. Add the music on the Touch and iPads would be
> erased and only 17 would be copied back in.
Besides always having an external HD to back up your data, I suggest you buy an external DVD or Blu-Ray burner and make your own permanent physical backup of your data, for those special occasions when the cloud burps, or your backup trashes itself. Time Machine trashed itself when I ran out of room. NO WARNING.
Or you can go on trusting in the cloud.
Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 15 September 2013 17:34, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Perhaps you should tell him how to see/enable Home/Library.
> I've explained it so many times I don't feel like writing it out again....
>
Good point. This is hidden by default in recent OS X versions. There are
various ways of accessing Home > Library but the easiest is probably to
select Finder > Go and press the Option key.
Otto
>
> Perhaps you should tell him how to see/enable Home/Library.
> I've explained it so many times I don't feel like writing it out again....
>
Good point. This is hidden by default in recent OS X versions. There are
various ways of accessing Home > Library but the easiest is probably to
select Finder > Go and press the Option key.
Otto
Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:55 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Engberg" mrbyte
Dave, to get to your personal Library, click on the "Go" drop down menu in Finder and hold down the Option key. Your Library will appear in the list.
John Engberg
On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Dave Clark <dc1999@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am trying to install WordService on a late 2011 MacBookPro OS X 10.8.4. I've unzipped it, but now I cannot find "UserAccount/Library/Services" folder. When I go to something named "admin" I find a "Library" folder, but I do not have permissions and cannot change them when I go to the Info screen.
>
> Is there a magic incantation I need?
>
> Some help please.
>
> Thank you.
> <PastedGraphic-2.png>
>
>
> Dave Clark
> Irvine, CA
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> On Sep 15, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Dave Clark <dc1999@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Clark
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 949-639-9418
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net>
>>> Date: September 13, 2013, 10:40:41 PM PDT
>>> To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [macsupport] Pages question
>>> Reply-To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
>>>
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> I'm copy/pasting some responses that seem to have gotten lost
>>> in the Yahoo world.
>>>
>>> Actually this is the 3rd time I've posted this. It must have a Yahoo
>>> Gris-Gris on it.
>>>
>>> - - - - -
>>>
>>> This is a weird issue in Pages and a significant feature that is
>>> missing or doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Fortunately there are multiple work arounds for changing case and other
>>> editing functions.
>>>
>>> Try WordService first and see what you think of it.
>>>
>>> WordService
>>>
>>> This a a great free Service utility.
>>>
>>> Download from: <https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/10523/wordservice>
>>> and visit the maker's web site also.
>>>
>>> WordService provides 37 editing functions such as changing case,
>>> sentence case, Initial caps, straight and smart quotes, removing line
>>> endings and beginnings and attachments and links , sorting lines,
>>> various date and time formats, paths, and more.
>>>
>>> WordService works with a variety of Macintosh programs as a Service
>>> including TextEdit, Pages, Mail, Stickies, Safari, and more.
>>>
>>> After downloading, decompress the downloaded file and add the utility
>>> within named
>>>
>>> WordService.service
>>>
>>> to your User Account/Library/Services folder.
>>>
>>> Then restart your Mac or log out of your user account and log back in.
>>>
>>> You may need to check something and turn on some of the 37 features by
>>> checking on the check boxes in
>>>
>>> System Preferences >Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts tab, then select
>>> Services in left column.
>>>
>>> Then scroll through the items in the right window pane and check on
>>> some or all of the new Services added by WordService.
>>>
>>> The reason for this is that some of these services may have shortcut
>>> commands that conflict with other shortcut commands. You may need to
>>> experiment with changing the shortcut if you use one that you need that
>>> conflicts.
>>>
>>> Then open Pages, open a document with text, select some text, choose
>>> the Pages menu and pick Services and you should see the WordService
>>> items you checked to turn on in Keyboard Shortcuts.
>>>
>>> Same Services will work in many applications including the GyazMail
>>> email program I'm using to write this message.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Denver Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:02:58 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>>>> I have a fairly simple question regarding Pages and formatting text.
>>>
>>> Where text is all in capitals is there a way to then highlight all
>>> the text in all-caps and change it to all small letters?
>>>
>>> I tried what Pages help advises but that doesn't change anything.
>>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:02:58 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>>>> I have a fairly simple question regarding Pages and formatting text.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where text is all in capitals is there a way to then highlight all
>>>>> the text in all-caps and change it to all small letters?
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried what Pages help advises but that doesn't change anything.
>>>>
>>>> That, and much, MUCH more: TextSoap:
>>>> <http://www.unmarked.com/textsoap/>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Jim Saklad
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Group FAQ:
>>> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
John Engberg
On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Dave Clark <dc1999@gmail.
> I am trying to install WordService on a late 2011 MacBookPro OS X 10.8.4. I've unzipped it, but now I cannot find "UserAccount/
>
> Is there a magic incantation I need?
>
> Some help please.
>
> Thank you.
> <PastedGraphic-
>
>
> Dave Clark
> Irvine, CA
> http://www.clarklaw
> http://daveclarkima
> http://facebook.
>
> © 2012 All Rights Reserved
> Permission to copy on this Email list only.
>
> On Sep 15, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Dave Clark <dc1999@gmail.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Clark
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 949-639-9418
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
>>> Date: September 13, 2013, 10:40:41 PM PDT
>>> To: macsupportcentral@
>>> Subject: Re: [macsupport] Pages question
>>> Reply-To: macsupportcentral@
>>>
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> I'm copy/pasting some responses that seem to have gotten lost
>>> in the Yahoo world.
>>>
>>> Actually this is the 3rd time I've posted this. It must have a Yahoo
>>> Gris-Gris on it.
>>>
>>> - - - - -
>>>
>>> This is a weird issue in Pages and a significant feature that is
>>> missing or doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Fortunately there are multiple work arounds for changing case and other
>>> editing functions.
>>>
>>> Try WordService first and see what you think of it.
>>>
>>> WordService
>>>
>>> This a a great free Service utility.
>>>
>>> Download from: <https://www.
>>> and visit the maker's web site also.
>>>
>>> WordService provides 37 editing functions such as changing case,
>>> sentence case, Initial caps, straight and smart quotes, removing line
>>> endings and beginnings and attachments and links , sorting lines,
>>> various date and time formats, paths, and more.
>>>
>>> WordService works with a variety of Macintosh programs as a Service
>>> including TextEdit, Pages, Mail, Stickies, Safari, and more.
>>>
>>> After downloading, decompress the downloaded file and add the utility
>>> within named
>>>
>>> WordService.
>>>
>>> to your User Account/Library/
>>>
>>> Then restart your Mac or log out of your user account and log back in.
>>>
>>> You may need to check something and turn on some of the 37 features by
>>> checking on the check boxes in
>>>
>>> System Preferences >Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts tab, then select
>>> Services in left column.
>>>
>>> Then scroll through the items in the right window pane and check on
>>> some or all of the new Services added by WordService.
>>>
>>> The reason for this is that some of these services may have shortcut
>>> commands that conflict with other shortcut commands. You may need to
>>> experiment with changing the shortcut if you use one that you need that
>>> conflicts.
>>>
>>> Then open Pages, open a document with text, select some text, choose
>>> the Pages menu and pick Services and you should see the WordService
>>> items you checked to turn on in Keyboard Shortcuts.
>>>
>>> Same Services will work in many applications including the GyazMail
>>> email program I'm using to write this message.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Denver Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:02:58 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Where text is all in capitals is there a way to then highlight all
>>> the text in all-caps and change it to all small letters?
>>>
>>> I tried what Pages help advises but that doesn't change anything.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:02:58 -0400, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------
>>>
>>> Group FAQ:
>>> <http://tech.
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave Clark" dave24c
Well, the last thing I tried was restarting the computer, and that seems to work. In pages/services/preferences, there all the WordService commands are.
Thanks.
Dave Clark
Irvine, CA
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On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 15 September 2013 17:34, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Perhaps you should tell him how to see/enable Home/Library.
> I've explained it so many times I don't feel like writing it out again....
>
> Good point. This is hidden by default in recent OS X versions. There are various ways of accessing Home > Library but the easiest is probably to select Finder > Go and press the Option key.
>
> Otto
>
>
>
>
Thanks.
Dave Clark
Irvine, CA
http://www.clarklaw
http://daveclarkima
http://facebook.
© 2012 All Rights Reserved
Permission to copy on this Email list only.
On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@
>
>
> On 15 September 2013 17:34, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.
>
> Perhaps you should tell him how to see/enable Home/Library.
> I've explained it so many times I don't feel like writing it out again....
>
> Good point. This is hidden by default in recent OS X versions. There are various ways of accessing Home > Library but the easiest is probably to select Finder > Go and press the Option key.
>
> Otto
>
>
>
>
Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Mac OS X has multiple Library folders.
1. your hard drive/Library
2. your hard drive/System/Library
3. your hard drive/Users/Your User Account/Library
Each User Account has its own Library folder.
Starting with Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Apple made the User Account Library
folder invisible. I think it was unnecessary and results in questions
exactly like yours.
You can make the invisible Library folder visible temporarily and
permanently in different ways.
Temp solution: Press the Option key and use your mouse and click on
Finder's Go menu and Library becomes visible. You can then open it.
Permanent solution: Open the Library folder using the Temp solution
(Option key method) and when it is open drag the little blue folder
icon at the top center of this Library folder, the blue folder icon to
left of the word Library, drag to your Sidebar in the Favorites section
and drop it there. It will stay there in Favorites and next time you
need to open it just click it like a normal folder.
There is also a Terminal command that I don't recall that will make it
permanent visible.
Good luck!
Denver Dan
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:32:44 -0700, Dave Clark wrote:
> I am trying to install WordService on a late 2011 MacBookPro OS X
> 10.8.4. I¡Çve unzipped it, but now I cannot find
> ¡ÈUserAccount/Library/Services¡É folder. When I go to something named
> ¡Èadmin¡É I find a ¡ÈLibrary¡É folder, but I do not have permissions and
> cannot change them when I go to the Info screen.
>
> Is there a magic incantation I need?
>
> Some help please.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Dave Clark
Mac OS X has multiple Library folders.
1. your hard drive/Library
2. your hard drive/System/
3. your hard drive/Users/
Each User Account has its own Library folder.
Starting with Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Apple made the User Account Library
folder invisible. I think it was unnecessary and results in questions
exactly like yours.
You can make the invisible Library folder visible temporarily and
permanently in different ways.
Temp solution: Press the Option key and use your mouse and click on
Finder's Go menu and Library becomes visible. You can then open it.
Permanent solution: Open the Library folder using the Temp solution
(Option key method) and when it is open drag the little blue folder
icon at the top center of this Library folder, the blue folder icon to
left of the word Library, drag to your Sidebar in the Favorites section
and drop it there. It will stay there in Favorites and next time you
need to open it just click it like a normal folder.
There is also a Terminal command that I don't recall that will make it
permanent visible.
Good luck!
Denver Dan
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:32:44 -0700, Dave Clark wrote:
> I am trying to install WordService on a late 2011 MacBookPro OS X
> 10.8.4. I¡Çve unzipped it, but now I cannot find
> ¡ÈUserAccount/
> ¡Èadmin¡É I find a ¡ÈLibrary¡É folder, but I do not have permissions and
> cannot change them when I go to the Info screen.
>
> Is there a magic incantation I need?
>
> Some help please.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Dave Clark
Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> I am trying to install WordService on a late 2011 MacBookPro OS X 10.8.4. I've unzipped it, but now I cannot find "UserAccount/Library/Services" folder. When I go to something named "admin" I find a "Library" folder, but I do not have permissions and cannot change them when I go to the Info screen.
> Dave, to get to your personal Library, click on the "Go" drop down menu in Finder and hold down the Option key. Your Library will appear in the list.
> John Engberg
Having done that, if you choose, you can then drag the ~/Library folder to the sidebar on the left of the Finder window, to keep it easily available for future use.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
> Dave, to get to your personal Library, click on the "Go" drop down menu in Finder and hold down the Option key. Your Library will appear in the list.
> John Engberg
Having done that, if you choose, you can then drag the ~/Library folder to the sidebar on the left of the Finder window, to keep it easily available for future use.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Actually, you only needed to log out and back in, but you got there anyway.
;)
Otto
On 15 September 2013 19:36, Dave Clark <dc1999@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, the last thing I tried was restarting the computer, and that seems
> to work. In pages/services/preferences, there all the WordService commands
> are.
>
;)
Otto
On 15 September 2013 19:36, Dave Clark <dc1999@gmail.
> Well, the last thing I tried was restarting the computer, and that seems
> to work. In pages/services/
> are.
>
Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:32 AM, James Robertson wrote:
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:28 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
>
>> I have not seen or heard of a model specific version of any OS X, so that should not be a problem.
>
> Not so long ago, when Macs came with internal DVD drives, the Install DVD was very definitely model-specific.
>
This was true for the disc that came with a machine, but if you bought OS-X from a store it would work on any machine that could use that version of OS-X. Furthermore, the OS itself became more universal. When hard drives were so much smaller they would install specific model-specific (I forget the technical word for it) pieces of software for that model, so you could not simply copy System 8.5 from Mac #1 to Mac #2. Nowadays, for the most part, the only difference in OS versions is whether the machine has an Intel or PPC processor, so you pretty much can clone one hard drive to the other and it will work.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:34 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Michael Stupinski wrote:
> Jim, do you know how to determine whether a DVD is one which is not machine-specific? I have a pretty complete set of OSX DVDs (10.2 to 10.6) on which I can see no indication of being machine-specific. I also have some DVDs from OS9 to OSX 5 for various Macs with grey labels bearing a statement that they are part of a hardware package, and I'm wondering if it's simply that those without such a statement on the label are usable on any machine capable of running that system.
That's it. Those are the ones that are machine specific, but even those MIGHT work on other machines.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Those discs stating that they are for a specific model, are. At those few times, a specific driver or firmware was or was not made available on the disc.
Model specific OS disc were rare, and I don't believe there were any in OS X.
If you bought disc for an upgrade, they included everything at the time of release, for all models.
Brent
On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Michael Stupinski wrote:
Jim, do you know how to determine whether a DVD is one which is not machine-specific? I have a pretty complete set of OSX DVDs (10.2 to 10.6) on which I can see no indication of being machine-specific. I also have some DVDs from OS9 to OSX 5 for various Macs with grey labels bearing a statement that they are part of a hardware package, and I'm wondering if it's simply that those without such a statement on the label are usable on any machine capable of running that system.
Thanks,
...............Mike
On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:32 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:28 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I have not seen or heard of a model specific version of any OS X, so that should not be a problem.
>
> Not so long ago, when Macs came with internal DVD drives, the Install DVD was very definitely model-specific.
>
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,_
> (*)/ (*)
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
Model specific OS disc were rare, and I don't believe there were any in OS X.
If you bought disc for an upgrade, they included everything at the time of release, for all models.
Brent
On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Michael Stupinski wrote:
Jim, do you know how to determine whether a DVD is one which is not machine-specific? I have a pretty complete set of OSX DVDs (10.2 to 10.6) on which I can see no indication of being machine-specific. I also have some DVDs from OS9 to OSX 5 for various Macs with grey labels bearing a statement that they are part of a hardware package, and I'm wondering if it's simply that those without such a statement on the label are usable on any machine capable of running that system.
Thanks,
............
On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:32 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:28 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
>
>> I have not seen or heard of a model specific version of any OS X, so that should not be a problem.
>
> Not so long ago, when Macs came with internal DVD drives, the Install DVD was very definitely model-specific.
>
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,
> (*)/ (*)
> ````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
The grey discs, with or without a model specification were to distinguish them from retail discs.
And what Macs were those few model specific disc for? A couple of beige boxes from Sculley's time (Power Macintoshes), the Twentieth Anniversary, and one or two G4 (or before) laptops. I thought the Cube was one, but it apparently just needed a different Mac OS ROM, not a different OS. In fact, I think all the model specific discs were for those that needed a certain Mac OS ROM, but once the Mac had that, they could use any upgrade. The combo upgrades, included a check for which Mac OS ROM it had.
Brent
On Sep 15, 2013, at 7:18 AM, James Robertson wrote:
On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:
> Jim, do you know how to determine whether a DVD is one which is not machine-specific?
What Otto said ;-)
Machine-specific DVDs are gray and the label says exactly what machine they're customized for (and they won't boot other Macs). That's true well into the evolution of OS X, but of course disappeared along with the drive they run on :-)
Jim Robertson
And what Macs were those few model specific disc for? A couple of beige boxes from Sculley'
Brent
On Sep 15, 2013, at 7:18 AM, James Robertson wrote:
On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.
> Jim, do you know how to determine whether a DVD is one which is not machine-specific?
What Otto said ;-)
Machine-specific DVDs are gray and the label says exactly what machine they're customized for (and they won't boot other Macs). That's true well into the evolution of OS X, but of course disappeared along with the drive they run on :-)
Jim Robertson
Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:34 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue
The disk swap worked fine on both sides. No issues.
> Otto Nikolaus <mailto:otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com>
> September 15, 2013 7:12 AM
> From the info you gave us, I think a straight swap will work
> perfectly. One thing you could try first, though, is to boot each from
> the other in Target Disk Mode. This won't be a 100% guarantee but is
> probably as good a test as you can get before doing the actual swap.
>
> Otto
>
>
> Thanks, Barry;
>
> I figured it was possible, since you can boot from a drive not
> previously used on a given machine, In the past though, I've only
> done that to repair things with say, Disk Utility or to diagnose a
> boot issue with the original drive.
>
> I guess I'll go for it and see what happens.
>
>
>
> Tim O'Donoghue <mailto:tjod@runbox.com>
> September 14, 2013 7:41 PM
> Thanks, Barry;
>
> I figured it was possible, since you can boot from a drive not
> previously used on a given machine, In the past though, I've only done
> that to repair things with say, Disk Utility or to diagnose a boot
> issue with the original drive.
>
> I guess I'll go for it and see what happens.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Barry Austern <mailto:barryaus@fuse.net>
> September 14, 2013 6:46 PM
>
> Looks very doable to me. I've in the past cloned one machine to a
> somewhat similar machine, but less similar than yours. That's why my
> MacBook Pro still has printer drivers for printers connected to my
> iMac :-)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net <mailto:barryaus@fuse.net>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tim O'Donoghue <mailto:tjod@runbox.com>
> September 14, 2013 3:30 PM
>
> I have a question about moving drives between 2 different MacBooks.
>
> The 2 MacBooks involved:
>
> 1. Macbook 4,1, Core2 Duo, 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 250 GB 5400 RPM Fujitsu
> HD (Apple branded)
> 2. Macbook 2,1, Core 2 Duo, 2.0 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB Samsung SSD
> drive (3rd party to replace failed drive)
>
> Both are running fully patched OS X 10.7.5 - this is the max OS for
> both MacBooks according to EveryMac.Com and Mactracker. What I'm
> planning to do is simply swap the hard drives so as to have the [much]
> faster SSD drive on the newer, slightly faster MB.
>
> Is there any reason not to do this? Any consideration when there is
> somewhat different HW involved? I'm asking this because from doing
> this in Windows, it's pretty much required to reinstall the OS. I'm
> currently thinkuing thatg there will be no major issues and the OS
> will adjust itself at boot to recognize any hardware differences and
> adjust.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim O
>
> Otto Nikolaus <mailto:otto.nikolaus@
> September 15, 2013 7:12 AM
> From the info you gave us, I think a straight swap will work
> perfectly. One thing you could try first, though, is to boot each from
> the other in Target Disk Mode. This won't be a 100% guarantee but is
> probably as good a test as you can get before doing the actual swap.
>
> Otto
>
>
> Thanks, Barry;
>
> I figured it was possible, since you can boot from a drive not
> previously used on a given machine, In the past though, I've only
> done that to repair things with say, Disk Utility or to diagnose a
> boot issue with the original drive.
>
> I guess I'll go for it and see what happens.
>
>
>
> Tim O'Donoghue <mailto:tjod@runbox.
> September 14, 2013 7:41 PM
> Thanks, Barry;
>
> I figured it was possible, since you can boot from a drive not
> previously used on a given machine, In the past though, I've only done
> that to repair things with say, Disk Utility or to diagnose a boot
> issue with the original drive.
>
> I guess I'll go for it and see what happens.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Barry Austern <mailto:barryaus@fuse.
> September 14, 2013 6:46 PM
>
> Looks very doable to me. I've in the past cloned one machine to a
> somewhat similar machine, but less similar than yours. That's why my
> MacBook Pro still has printer drivers for printers connected to my
> iMac :-)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tim O'Donoghue <mailto:tjod@runbox.
> September 14, 2013 3:30 PM
>
> I have a question about moving drives between 2 different MacBooks.
>
> The 2 MacBooks involved:
>
> 1. Macbook 4,1, Core2 Duo, 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 250 GB 5400 RPM Fujitsu
> HD (Apple branded)
> 2. Macbook 2,1, Core 2 Duo, 2.0 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB Samsung SSD
> drive (3rd party to replace failed drive)
>
> Both are running fully patched OS X 10.7.5 - this is the max OS for
> both MacBooks according to EveryMac.Com and Mactracker. What I'm
> planning to do is simply swap the hard drives so as to have the [much]
> faster SSD drive on the newer, slightly faster MB.
>
> Is there any reason not to do this? Any consideration when there is
> somewhat different HW involved? I'm asking this because from doing
> this in Windows, it's pretty much required to reinstall the OS. I'm
> currently thinkuing thatg there will be no major issues and the OS
> will adjust itself at boot to recognize any hardware differences and
> adjust.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim O
>
Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:34 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> From the info you gave us, I think a straight swap will work perfectly. One thing you could try first, though, is to boot each from the other in Target Disk Mode. This won't be a 100% guarantee but is probably as good a test as you can get before doing the actual swap.
>
> Otto
Wonderful idea!
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Doris" untoldexpressions
I am just starting out with my iTunes although a Mac user for many years.
I am in the process of importing my CDs to iTunes to have on my computer
and iPhone 5.
Most import without problem, but some will not upload to iCloud. I have
been trying over many days.
I do have iTunes Match.
Any ideas?
Doris
OSX 10.8.4
mid 2009 MacBookPro
2.53 GHx Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Capacity 249.2 GB
Available 138.85 GB
I am in the process of importing my CDs to iTunes to have on my computer
and iPhone 5.
Most import without problem, but some will not upload to iCloud. I have
been trying over many days.
I do have iTunes Match.
Any ideas?
Doris
OSX 10.8.4
mid 2009 MacBookPro
2.53 GHx Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Capacity 249.2 GB
Available 138.85 GB
Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
How often a Mac user needs to run something in Window varies.
The answer depends on the individual and most often, their employer, but you will find that the need to run Windows is generally low, and less as time goes on.
The most common reason is if an employer uses a proprietary software program.
There are a few Windows niche apps for few very specific areas of interest, that are not business oriented, that have not been ported. But again, those are very few.
J. <yahoo-1@sympatico.ca> said that his employer required him to run Internet Explorer because of ActiveX plugins. Well, I don't know about the ActiveX plugins, but I recently worked for an employer that ran a Exchange Server. I just ran MS Office 2011 for Mac and had no problems accessing their Exchange Server. I can't remember when I last ran into something that required ActiveX.
As far as J's issues with drivers and compatibility with some of our older peripherals, that is an issue of the manufacturer's being slow or wanting new sales, not W vs M.
What I do when upgrading OS (in your case, making the switch) or buying a new computer or other tech device is to make a spreadsheet. I list pros, cons, and costs. I also include hardware, peripherals and software that will need changing, drivers or 3rd party software to make the peripherals work. (Vuescan makes a lot of printers and scanners work when the manufacturer gives up.) Usually, it becomes fairly obvious when it makes sense to change, and gives you a better idea of what it will cost. It also give you a little time to spread the purchase out by catching things on sale.
Basically, the only thing I run Windows for is to download more audio books from my local public library. The library, in their wisdom, buys more books in digitally protected wvm, than any other format, instead of mp3. I have yet to find an old work file, that was created in Windows that I can not open on my Mac.
The problem is YMMV, and only you can determine how often you will need to run something in Windows, today. But that will change, too.
Brent
On Sep 15, 2013, at 3:03 AM, Tony wrote:
Hi Earle
That is my point and question. These days how much is the issue of having to run Windosw as well??
The answer depends on the individual and most often, their employer, but you will find that the need to run Windows is generally low, and less as time goes on.
The most common reason is if an employer uses a proprietary software program.
There are a few Windows niche apps for few very specific areas of interest, that are not business oriented, that have not been ported. But again, those are very few.
J. <yahoo-1@sympatico.
As far as J's issues with drivers and compatibility with some of our older peripherals, that is an issue of the manufacturer&#
What I do when upgrading OS (in your case, making the switch) or buying a new computer or other tech device is to make a spreadsheet. I list pros, cons, and costs. I also include hardware, peripherals and software that will need changing, drivers or 3rd party software to make the peripherals work. (Vuescan makes a lot of printers and scanners work when the manufacturer gives up.) Usually, it becomes fairly obvious when it makes sense to change, and gives you a better idea of what it will cost. It also give you a little time to spread the purchase out by catching things on sale.
Basically, the only thing I run Windows for is to download more audio books from my local public library. The library, in their wisdom, buys more books in digitally protected wvm, than any other format, instead of mp3. I have yet to find an old work file, that was created in Windows that I can not open on my Mac.
The problem is YMMV, and only you can determine how often you will need to run something in Windows, today. But that will change, too.
Brent
On Sep 15, 2013, at 3:03 AM, Tony wrote:
Hi Earle
That is my point and question. These days how much is the issue of having to run Windosw as well??
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