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Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Sep 22, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Michael Stupinski wrote:
> It sounds to me as if more information is needed here. That description would fit the ports on an iMac, but they are, of course on the monitor of the iMac, just as is everything but the keyboard and mouse. It's more appropriate to say the ports are on the computer than on the monitor. The real question is what is the second "monitor"
Actually, I have a second monitor connected to my iMac. The second monitor is an Apple monitor. I turned off wifi on my main iMac and connected a MacBook Pro to the second monitor'
So I think this proves that the ethernet port on the second monitor is functional.
I would suggest that some people get braver and just things for themselves. You get to feel like an explorer.
;-)
Daly
Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 22 September 2013 20:42, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, you do, Otto.
> Jim's description seems to be Apple's 27" Thunderbolt Display.
>
> The computer must be connected to the monitor via the Thunderbolt port,
> but then anything attached to the USB, Firewire, or Ethernet ports on the
> monitor will be transmitted to the computer over that Thunderbolt
> connection. I don't know what, exactly, I would do with a second ethernet
> port, myself....
>
Thanks. I didn't realise *any* display had ethernet, even a Thunderbolt
one. I still don't understand what Jim is asking, though.
Otto
>
> Yes, you do, Otto.
> Jim's description seems to be Apple's 27" Thunderbolt Display.
>
> The computer must be connected to the monitor via the Thunderbolt port,
> but then anything attached to the USB, Firewire, or Ethernet ports on the
> monitor will be transmitted to the computer over that Thunderbolt
> connection. I don't know what, exactly, I would do with a second ethernet
> port, myself....
>
Thanks. I didn't realise *any* display had ethernet, even a Thunderbolt
one. I still don't understand what Jim is asking, though.
Otto
Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
I've never had a monitor with an ethernet port, so I've never had the opportunity to try it. Apple monitors are out of my price range, at least in terms of what I think is reasonable for price.
........Mike
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Michael Stupinski wrote:
>
>> It sounds to me as if more information is needed here. That description would fit the ports on an iMac, but they are, of course on the monitor of the iMac, just as is everything but the keyboard and mouse. It's more appropriate to say the ports are on the computer than on the monitor. The real question is what is the second "monitor"? Is it a Samsung monitor, a Dell monitor, another iMac, or what? If it's a true stand-alone monitor I think it is unlikely that it has an ethernet port.
>
> Actually, I have a second monitor connected to my iMac. The second monitor is an Apple monitor. I turned off wifi on my main iMac and connected a MacBook Pro to the second monitor's ethernet port. I went to the Go menu on the MacBook Pro and chose my iMac's sharing address, and had immediate access to the iMac from the MacBook Pro that was connected solely by ethernet to the second monitor attached by ethernet to the main iMac.
>
> So I think this proves that the ethernet port on the second monitor is functional.
>
> I would suggest that some people get braver and just things for themselves. You get to feel like an explorer.
>
> ;-)
>
> Daly
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........Mike
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Michael Stupinski wrote:
>
>> It sounds to me as if more information is needed here. That description would fit the ports on an iMac, but they are, of course on the monitor of the iMac, just as is everything but the keyboard and mouse. It's more appropriate to say the ports are on the computer than on the monitor. The real question is what is the second "monitor"
>
> Actually, I have a second monitor connected to my iMac. The second monitor is an Apple monitor. I turned off wifi on my main iMac and connected a MacBook Pro to the second monitor'
>
> So I think this proves that the ethernet port on the second monitor is functional.
>
> I would suggest that some people get braver and just things for themselves. You get to feel like an explorer.
>
> ;-)
>
> Daly
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Smith" jimmacsmith
The second monitor is an Apple Thunderbolt Display. (should have said)
Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.com
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:
> It sounds to me as if more information is needed here. That description would fit the ports on an iMac, but they are, of course on the monitor of the iMac, just as is everything but the keyboard and mouse. It's more appropriate to say the ports are on the computer than on the monitor. The real question is what is the second "monitor"? Is it a Samsung monitor, a Dell monitor, another iMac, or what? If it's a true stand-alone monitor I think it is unlikely that it has an ethernet port.
>
>
> ...............Mike
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>> Apple specs page:
>> Three powered USB 2.0 ports
>> FireWire 800
>> Gigabit Ethernet port
>> Thunderbolt port
>>
>> Jim Smith
>> www.rvcarelogbook.com
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Are you sure the port on the monitor is ethernet? It's more likely to be HDMI, DisplayPort, or DVI.
>>>
>>> Otto
>>>
>>> On 22 September 2013 17:49, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On my iMac there is an Ethernet port. I have a second monitor with a Ethernet port. I have my router connected to the port on the iMac and the monitor port is empty.
>>>
>>> Can both port be used?
>>>
>>> Any advantage to using both?
>>>
>>> Any disadvantage to using both?
>>>
Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.
> It sounds to me as if more information is needed here. That description would fit the ports on an iMac, but they are, of course on the monitor of the iMac, just as is everything but the keyboard and mouse. It's more appropriate to say the ports are on the computer than on the monitor. The real question is what is the second "monitor"
>
>
> ............
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.
>
>>
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>> Apple specs page:
>> Three powered USB 2.0 ports
>> FireWire 800
>> Gigabit Ethernet port
>> Thunderbolt port
>>
>> Jim Smith
>> www.rvcarelogbook.
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@
>>
>>>
>>> Are you sure the port on the monitor is ethernet? It's more likely to be HDMI, DisplayPort, or DVI.
>>>
>>> Otto
>>>
>>> On 22 September 2013 17:49, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.
>>>
>>>
>>> On my iMac there is an Ethernet port. I have a second monitor with a Ethernet port. I have my router connected to the port on the iMac and the monitor port is empty.
>>>
>>> Can both port be used?
>>>
>>> Any advantage to using both?
>>>
>>> Any disadvantage to using both?
>>>
Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
If the female end is Type-A, then it is simply a cable extender. I have one
of those; it came with a USB hub*, which you could use with either the
short attached cable or with the extension connected to the short cable.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb#Connector_types>
*Or maybe a USB card reader. I'm really not sure now.
Otto
On 22 September 2013 20:37, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
> that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some
> apple device, but I'm not sure.
>
> At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that
> plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other
> end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked
> similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>
> However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be
> unplugged without destroying it.
>
> Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>
of those; it came with a USB hub*, which you could use with either the
short attached cable or with the extension connected to the short cable.
<http://en.wikipedia
*Or maybe a USB card reader. I'm really not sure now.
Otto
On 22 September 2013 20:37, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
> that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some
> apple device, but I'm not sure.
>
> At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that
> plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other
> end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked
> similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>
> However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be
> unplugged without destroying it.
>
> Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>
Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:49 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Masters" joemastersk
Are both ends white and is the female connector longer than the other end? Could be an extension for the Apple wired keyboard. I have one like this.
John Masters
johnmasters@me.com
On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:37, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
> that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>
> At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>
> However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>
> Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>
> tnx
> --
> jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net
> Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
>
>
John Masters
johnmasters@
On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:37, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
> that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>
> At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>
> However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>
> Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>
> tnx
> --
> jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.
> Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
>
>
Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
The only thing I can think of, and which I have right here in front of me, is a USB extender. In my case it let's me plug my Epson printer into an alternate computer which is just about 3 feet too far away to do it otherwise. If that's what you have, I don't understand why it can't be unplugged without destroying it, because both connectors should be to the USB standards, especially if they're identified with a USB symbol.
I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
.........Mike
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
> that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>
> At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>
> However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>
> Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>
> tnx
> --
> jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net
> Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
>
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I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
.........Mike
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
> that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>
> At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>
> However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>
> Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>
> tnx
> --
> jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.
> Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
>
>
>
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Masters" joemastersk
The USB plug on the wired keyboard has a groove down the middle for some reason. The actual connection seems much tighter than an ordinary USB extension cable. Should come apart with a hefty, straight pull.
John Masters
johnmasters@me.com
On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:50, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:
> The only thing I can think of, and which I have right here in front of me, is a USB extender. In my case it let's me plug my Epson printer into an alternate computer which is just about 3 feet too far away to do it otherwise. If that's what you have, I don't understand why it can't be unplugged without destroying it, because both connectors should be to the USB standards, especially if they're identified with a USB symbol.
>
> I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
>
> .........Mike
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
>
> > that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
> >
> > At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
> >
> > However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
> >
> > Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
> >
> > tnx
> > --
> > jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net
> > Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
> >
> >
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John Masters
johnmasters@
On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:50, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.
> The only thing I can think of, and which I have right here in front of me, is a USB extender. In my case it let's me plug my Epson printer into an alternate computer which is just about 3 feet too far away to do it otherwise. If that's what you have, I don't understand why it can't be unplugged without destroying it, because both connectors should be to the USB standards, especially if they're identified with a USB symbol.
>
> I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
>
> .........Mike
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
>
> > that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
> >
> > At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
> >
> > However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
> >
> > Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
> >
> > tnx
> > --
> > jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.
> > Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
> >
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Masters" joemastersk
From Apple store:
What's in the Box?
Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
USB extension cable
Printed documentatio
John Masters
johnmasters@me.com
On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:55, John Masters <johnmasters@me.com> wrote:
> The USB plug on the wired keyboard has a groove down the middle for some reason. The actual connection seems much tighter than an ordinary USB extension cable. Should come apart with a hefty, straight pull.
>
>
> John Masters
> johnmasters@me.com
>
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:50, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> The only thing I can think of, and which I have right here in front of me, is a USB extender. In my case it let's me plug my Epson printer into an alternate computer which is just about 3 feet too far away to do it otherwise. If that's what you have, I don't understand why it can't be unplugged without destroying it, because both connectors should be to the USB standards, especially if they're identified with a USB symbol.
>>
>> I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
>>
>> .........Mike
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
>>
>> > that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>> >
>> > At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>> >
>> > However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>> >
>> > Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>> >
>> > tnx
>> > --
>> > jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net
>> > Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
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>> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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>
>
>
What's in the Box?
Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
USB extension cable
Printed documentatio
John Masters
johnmasters@
On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:55, John Masters <johnmasters@
> The USB plug on the wired keyboard has a groove down the middle for some reason. The actual connection seems much tighter than an ordinary USB extension cable. Should come apart with a hefty, straight pull.
>
>
> John Masters
> johnmasters@
>
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:50, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.
>
>>
>> The only thing I can think of, and which I have right here in front of me, is a USB extender. In my case it let's me plug my Epson printer into an alternate computer which is just about 3 feet too far away to do it otherwise. If that's what you have, I don't understand why it can't be unplugged without destroying it, because both connectors should be to the USB standards, especially if they're identified with a USB symbol.
>>
>> I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
>>
>> .........Mike
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
>>
>> > that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>> >
>> > At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>> >
>> > However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>> >
>> > Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>> >
>> > tnx
>> > --
>> > jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.
>> > Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------
>> >
>> > Group FAQ:
>> > <http://tech.
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
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>> >
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>
>
Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:55 PM, John Masters wrote:
> The USB plug on the wired keyboard has a groove down the middle for some reason. The actual connection seems much tighter than an ordinary USB extension cable. Should come apart with a hefty, straight pull.
>
>
> John Masters
> johnmasters@
>
>
To me the reason is very obvious. It is greed on Apple's part. The USB keyboard extension cable was supplied free with new computers. The cable had a non-standard connector with the ridge on the inside. This allowed it to fit the non-standard plug on the keyboard cable, but you then could not use the cable for any other USB extending if you did not use it for the keyboard. Heaven forbid if Apple were to give you something for free.
>
> On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:50, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.
>
>>
>> The only thing I can think of, and which I have right here in front of me, is a USB extender. In my case it let's me plug my Epson printer into an alternate computer which is just about 3 feet too far away to do it otherwise. If that's what you have, I don't understand why it can't be unplugged without destroying it, because both connectors should be to the USB standards, especially if they're identified with a USB symbol.
>>
>> I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
>>
>> .........Mike
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
>>
>> > that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>> >
>> > At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>> >
>> > However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>> >
>> > Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>> >
>> > tnx
>> > --
>> > jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.
>> > Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------
>> >
>> > Group FAQ:
>> > <http://tech.
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Masters" joemastersk
Can't say I noticed the ridge but it sounds about right. Was a few years ago I got the wired keyboard.
If Apple didn't supply the extension cable then if you needed one you would have to buy one so no real loss if you don't use it.
John Masters
johnmasters@me.com
On 22 Sep 2013, at 21:02, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:55 PM, John Masters wrote:
>
>>
>> The USB plug on the wired keyboard has a groove down the middle for some reason. The actual connection seems much tighter than an ordinary USB extension cable. Should come apart with a hefty, straight pull.
>>
>>
>> John Masters
>> johnmasters@me.com
>>
>>
>
>
> To me the reason is very obvious. It is greed on Apple's part. The USB keyboard extension cable was supplied free with new computers. The cable had a non-standard connector with the ridge on the inside. This allowed it to fit the non-standard plug on the keyboard cable, but you then could not use the cable for any other USB extending if you did not use it for the keyboard. Heaven forbid if Apple were to give you something for free.
>
>>
>> On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:50, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The only thing I can think of, and which I have right here in front of me, is a USB extender. In my case it let's me plug my Epson printer into an alternate computer which is just about 3 feet too far away to do it otherwise. If that's what you have, I don't understand why it can't be unplugged without destroying it, because both connectors should be to the USB standards, especially if they're identified with a USB symbol.
>>>
>>> I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
>>>
>>> .........Mike
>>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>>> >
>>> > At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>>> >
>>> > However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>>> >
>>> > Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>>> >
>>> > tnx
>>> > --
>>> > jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net
>>> > Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Group FAQ:
>>> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
>>> >
>>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net
>
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>
If Apple didn't supply the extension cable then if you needed one you would have to buy one so no real loss if you don't use it.
John Masters
johnmasters@
On 22 Sep 2013, at 21:02, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:55 PM, John Masters wrote:
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>>
>> The USB plug on the wired keyboard has a groove down the middle for some reason. The actual connection seems much tighter than an ordinary USB extension cable. Should come apart with a hefty, straight pull.
>>
>>
>> John Masters
>> johnmasters@
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>
> To me the reason is very obvious. It is greed on Apple's part. The USB keyboard extension cable was supplied free with new computers. The cable had a non-standard connector with the ridge on the inside. This allowed it to fit the non-standard plug on the keyboard cable, but you then could not use the cable for any other USB extending if you did not use it for the keyboard. Heaven forbid if Apple were to give you something for free.
>
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>> On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:50, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.
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>>>
>>> The only thing I can think of, and which I have right here in front of me, is a USB extender. In my case it let's me plug my Epson printer into an alternate computer which is just about 3 feet too far away to do it otherwise. If that's what you have, I don't understand why it can't be unplugged without destroying it, because both connectors should be to the USB standards, especially if they're identified with a USB symbol.
>>>
>>> I can't remember my extender having come with any Apple product, and it has no Apple identification. I may have bought it separately as an extender cable years ago.
>>>
>>> .........Mike
>>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > that looks like an apple product, and probably arrived along with some apple device, but I'm not sure.
>>> >
>>> > At any rate, one end is a standard USB connector (male - the kind that plugs into a computer). The cable is about 2.5 feet long. At the other end, also marked with a USB symbol, is a female connector that looked similar to, but not quite the same as a regular USB connector.
>>> >
>>> > However, someone plugged it together end to end, and now it cannot be unplugged without destroying it.
>>> >
>>> > Any idea what this might have been a part of originally?
>>> >
>>> > tnx
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
Has anyone else found that the FAQ link at the end of posted messages:
"Group FAQ:
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>"
results in a message of: "Oops! Invalid path." ?
............Mike
"Group FAQ:
<http://tech.
results in a message of: "Oops! Invalid path." ?
............
Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Patsy Price" beyondwords2
>Has anyone else found that the FAQ link at the end of posted messages:
>
>"Group FAQ
><http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>"
>
>results in a message of: "Oops! Invalid path." ?
The link works fine for me.
I had never noticed it before. For me it shows up only in HTML
messages, and not in plain text messages (which I much, much
prefer--which probably says something about my age). And those HTML
messages tend to be rather spread out, so the FAQ link is far enough
down on the page that usually I'd need to scroll to see it.
But now I know where to find it if I ever want it.
Patsy
>
>"Group FAQ
><http://tech.
>
>results in a message of: "Oops! Invalid path." ?
The link works fine for me.
I had never noticed it before. For me it shows up only in HTML
messages, and not in plain text messages (which I much, much
prefer--which probably says something about my age). And those HTML
messages tend to be rather spread out, so the FAQ link is far enough
down on the page that usually I'd need to scroll to see it.
But now I know where to find it if I ever want it.
Patsy
Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:49 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
That is really bizarre. That link consistently fails the same way for me even if I enter it manually in the Safari URL window. I also don't understand why I get some messages in HTML rather than text, which I also prefer, since I'm signed up to get messages in "Traditional" not "Advanced (something)" format.
[Note that I say that, but when I just tried to find the page again where it shows those settings, I couldn't find it. I hate the way Yahoo has set things up...it's like a maze!]
.............Mike
On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Patsy Price <beyondwords@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Has anyone else found that the FAQ link at the end of posted messages:
>>
>> "Group FAQ
>> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>"
>>
>> results in a message of: "Oops! Invalid path." ?
>
> The link works fine for me.
>
> I had never noticed it before. For me it shows up only in HTML
> messages, and not in plain text messages (which I much, much
> prefer--which probably says something about my age). And those HTML
> messages tend to be rather spread out, so the FAQ link is far enough
> down on the page that usually I'd need to scroll to see it.
>
> But now I know where to find it if I ever want it.
>
> Patsy
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
[Note that I say that, but when I just tried to find the page again where it shows those settings, I couldn't find it. I hate the way Yahoo has set things up...it'
............
On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Patsy Price <beyondwords@
>> Has anyone else found that the FAQ link at the end of posted messages:
>>
>> "Group FAQ
>> <http://tech.
>>
>> results in a message of: "Oops! Invalid path." ?
>
> The link works fine for me.
>
> I had never noticed it before. For me it shows up only in HTML
> messages, and not in plain text messages (which I much, much
> prefer--which probably says something about my age). And those HTML
> messages tend to be rather spread out, so the FAQ link is far enough
> down on the page that usually I'd need to scroll to see it.
>
> But now I know where to find it if I ever want it.
>
> Patsy
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Patsy Price" beyondwords2
Thanks to everyone for your reassurance. And thanks to Otto for
paying attention and for giving me the vocab: No, I don't have any
iOS devices.
I won't bother with future iTunes updates unless I'm told it's a
necessary security update. And if I want some capability I haven't
needed till now, I'll probably ask about it here anyway.
I'll probably be happy if I can just continue as long as possible
doing what I've already been doing with my present setup.
It would be nice if I could disable the frequent iTunes update
reminders but not others, especially OS security updates, which I
need to know about as long as Apple is supporting Snow Leopard.
Patsy
>From what you say, you don't need iTunes at all. Yes, it's a library
>app that makes it easy to import and play music from CD and
>elsewhere, but you *could* import your CDs using Finder and play the
>files using QuickTime or VLC (iTunes actually uses QT to play media
>files; VLC is a free app that plays just about anything).
paying attention and for giving me the vocab: No, I don't have any
iOS devices.
I won't bother with future iTunes updates unless I'm told it's a
necessary security update. And if I want some capability I haven't
needed till now, I'll probably ask about it here anyway.
I'll probably be happy if I can just continue as long as possible
doing what I've already been doing with my present setup.
It would be nice if I could disable the frequent iTunes update
reminders but not others, especially OS security updates, which I
need to know about as long as Apple is supporting Snow Leopard.
Patsy
>From what you say, you don't need iTunes at all. Yes, it's a library
>app that makes it easy to import and play music from CD and
>elsewhere, but you *could* import your CDs using Finder and play the
>files using QuickTime or VLC (iTunes actually uses QT to play media
>files; VLC is a free app that plays just about anything).
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