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Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:11 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 07/01/13 07:38, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with other formats.
Exactly which formats did you have trouble with ? I've found it to be
pretty good.
Unfortunately, you will be stuck with buying Word for the Mac simply
because it transfers seamlessly to the PC but it is a very inferior
word-processing program and does not support right to left text (though
I doubt you will have a need for that).
>
> Josephine Bacon
> On 6 Jan 2013, at 18:08, ed-reiff wrote:
>
>> I use Open Office, free, and plays nice with most formats.
>> Ed
>>
>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "gram2one"; wrote:
>>>
>>> Good Morning! I am new to this group and fairly new to the world of Mac. I have a lap top that I got from my son and I am running Snow Leopard. My question is, what do you all use for a word processing program? I cannot find anything on this computer!
>>>
>>> Thank You!
>>> Sharon
>>>
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> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with other formats.
Exactly which formats did you have trouble with ? I've found it to be
pretty good.
Unfortunately, you will be stuck with buying Word for the Mac simply
because it transfers seamlessly to the PC but it is a very inferior
word-processing program and does not support right to left text (though
I doubt you will have a need for that).
>
> Josephine Bacon
> On 6 Jan 2013, at 18:08, ed-reiff wrote:
>
>> I use Open Office, free, and plays nice with most formats.
>> Ed
>>
>> --- In macsupportcentral@
>>>
>>> Good Morning! I am new to this group and fairly new to the world of Mac. I have a lap top that I got from my son and I am running Snow Leopard. My question is, what do you all use for a word processing program? I cannot find anything on this computer!
>>>
>>> Thank You!
>>> Sharon
>>>
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:26 am (PST) . Posted by:
"John Ennis" ennisart
I use text edit for most needs. I only have occasional need for a word processor and have been using LIbre Office on Randy's recommendation successfully.
John
John
Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:45 am (PST) . Posted by:
"OBrien" conorboru
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 17:21:08 -0800, Daly Jessup wrote:
> As far as I can figure it out, to have the latest verion of
> NeoOffice you have to pay a fee. OpenOffice is still free. Just
> something to be aware of.
I just downloaded NeoOffice for OSX 10.7 for free. I see that NO for OSX 10.8 is $10. I seems like more than a reasonable charge, to say the least.
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> As far as I can figure it out, to have the latest verion of
> NeoOffice you have to pay a fee. OpenOffice is still free. Just
> something to be aware of.
I just downloaded NeoOffice for OSX 10.7 for free. I see that NO for OSX 10.8 is $10. I seems like more than a reasonable charge, to say the least.
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:51 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:38 AM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with other formats.
Here I don't understand. I've never used it myself, in fact never even seen it, but I was under the impression that it read and wrote Micro$oft Office documents seamlessly.
> Unfortunately, you will be stuck with buying Word for the Mac simply because it transfers seamlessly to the PC but it is a very inferior word-processing program and does not support right to left text (though I doubt you will have a need for that).
I noticed that too quite a while back. You have to type the Hebrew characters in a left to right order. Pages and Text Edit work fine, as does FireFox and Apple's mail. For just a few words it is not that much of a problem. "Shalom" can be typed mem (sofit), vov, lamed, shin to get (I'm typing t his in Mail now, and have no idea if it will transit the internet) 蚸���. I always thought it was something I simply did not understand, that there was some way to do it, one I simply did not catch onto. I guess misery loves company, so your message at least kept me from keeping on looking how to do it.
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:52 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Josephine Bacon" baconandeggs_2001
I was using a Mac.
On 7 Jan 2013, at 09:03, keith_w wrote:
> Need a little more info here, Ms Bacon...
>
> What version of OpenOffice were you trying and what version of your Mac or
> PC operating system were you trying it ON, please?
> See interspersed below for more comments.
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Josephine Bacon bacon@langservice.com >wrote:
>
> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with
> > other formats. Unfortunately, you will be stuck with buying Word for the
> > Mac simply because it transfers seamlessly to the PC but it is a very
> > inferior word-processing program...
> >
>
> What specifically is "a very inferior word-processing program"? In the
> previous sentence you were taking about TWO W-P programs, OO and MSWord.
> Which one, in your estimation, is "very inferior"?
> To what others?
>
> ...and does not support right to left text (though I doubt you will have a
> > need for that).
> >
> > Josephine Bacon
> >
>
> I'm unfamiliar with OO, but do have and use NeoOffice, which is based on OO
> and find it most capable.
>
> BTW, so far as working with other formats, I find that when I attempt to
> save a WP document, looking only at MS Word entries and ignoring all the
> other 'save as' entries, it will save as:
>
> Word 97/2000/XP, Word 95 and 6.0 (.doc)
> Word 2003 XML (.xml)
> Word 2007 XML (.docx)
>
> FWIW, I am Keith Whaley
> OS = OSX v. 10.7.5
> NO = v. 3.2.1 Patch 8
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On 7 Jan 2013, at 09:03, keith_w wrote:
> Need a little more info here, Ms Bacon...
>
> What version of OpenOffice were you trying and what version of your Mac or
> PC operating system were you trying it ON, please?
> See interspersed below for more comments.
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Josephine Bacon bacon@langservice.
>
> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with
> > other formats. Unfortunately, you will be stuck with buying Word for the
> > Mac simply because it transfers seamlessly to the PC but it is a very
> > inferior word-processing program...
> >
>
> What specifically is "a very inferior word-processing program"
> previous sentence you were taking about TWO W-P programs, OO and MSWord.
> Which one, in your estimation, is "very inferior"
> To what others?
>
> ...and does not support right to left text (though I doubt you will have a
> > need for that).
> >
> > Josephine Bacon
> >
>
> I'm unfamiliar with OO, but do have and use NeoOffice, which is based on OO
> and find it most capable.
>
> BTW, so far as working with other formats, I find that when I attempt to
> save a WP document, looking only at MS Word entries and ignoring all the
> other 'save as' entries, it will save as:
>
> Word 97/2000/XP, Word 95 and 6.0 (.doc)
> Word 2003 XML (.xml)
> Word 2007 XML (.docx)
>
> FWIW, I am Keith Whaley
> OS = OSX v. 10.7.5
> NO = v. 3.2.1 Patch 8
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations Limited
179 Kings Cross Road
London WC1x 9BZ
Tel:+44 207 833 0607
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:58 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Josephine Bacon" baconandeggs_2001
That's because your needs are different to mine. The search and replace has become ridiculously clumsy compared to previous versions nd on the Mac it doesn't support right-to-lft script which is a huge disadvantage for me. Locoscript was a much better WP program
Josephine Bacon
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:01 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 07/01/13 15:52, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> I was using a Mac.
Well yes, obviously. Keith asked what sort of mac, and with what OSX
version ...
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2013, at 09:03, keith_w wrote:
>
>> Need a little more info here, Ms Bacon...
>>
>> What version of OpenOffice were you trying and what version of your Mac or
>> PC operating system were you trying it ON, please?
>> See interspersed below for more comments.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Josephine Bacon bacon@langservice.com >wrote:
>>
>> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with
>>> other formats. Unfortunately, you will be stuck with buying Word for the
>>> Mac simply because it transfers seamlessly to the PC but it is a very
>>> inferior word-processing program...
>>>
>>
>> What specifically is "a very inferior word-processing program"? In the
>> previous sentence you were taking about TWO W-P programs, OO and MSWord.
>> Which one, in your estimation, is "very inferior"?
>> To what others?
>>
>> ...and does not support right to left text (though I doubt you will have a
>>> need for that).
>>>
>>> Josephine Bacon
>>>
>>
>> I'm unfamiliar with OO, but do have and use NeoOffice, which is based on OO
>> and find it most capable.
>>
>> BTW, so far as working with other formats, I find that when I attempt to
>> save a WP document, looking only at MS Word entries and ignoring all the
>> other 'save as' entries, it will save as:
>>
>> Word 97/2000/XP, Word 95 and 6.0 (.doc)
>> Word 2003 XML (.xml)
>> Word 2007 XML (.docx)
>>
>> FWIW, I am Keith Whaley
>> OS = OSX v. 10.7.5
>> NO = v. 3.2.1 Patch 8
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> I was using a Mac.
Well yes, obviously. Keith asked what sort of mac, and with what OSX
version ...
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2013, at 09:03, keith_w wrote:
>
>> Need a little more info here, Ms Bacon...
>>
>> What version of OpenOffice were you trying and what version of your Mac or
>> PC operating system were you trying it ON, please?
>> See interspersed below for more comments.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Josephine Bacon bacon@langservice.
>>
>> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with
>>> other formats. Unfortunately, you will be stuck with buying Word for the
>>> Mac simply because it transfers seamlessly to the PC but it is a very
>>> inferior word-processing program...
>>>
>>
>> What specifically is "a very inferior word-processing program"
>> previous sentence you were taking about TWO W-P programs, OO and MSWord.
>> Which one, in your estimation, is "very inferior"
>> To what others?
>>
>> ...and does not support right to left text (though I doubt you will have a
>>> need for that).
>>>
>>> Josephine Bacon
>>>
>>
>> I'm unfamiliar with OO, but do have and use NeoOffice, which is based on OO
>> and find it most capable.
>>
>> BTW, so far as working with other formats, I find that when I attempt to
>> save a WP document, looking only at MS Word entries and ignoring all the
>> other 'save as' entries, it will save as:
>>
>> Word 97/2000/XP, Word 95 and 6.0 (.doc)
>> Word 2003 XML (.xml)
>> Word 2007 XML (.docx)
>>
>> FWIW, I am Keith Whaley
>> OS = OSX v. 10.7.5
>> NO = v. 3.2.1 Patch 8
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:03 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 07/01/13 16:01, Chris Jones wrote:
> On 07/01/13 15:52, Josephine Bacon wrote:
>> I was using a Mac.
>
> Well yes, obviously. Keith asked what sort of mac, and with what OSX
> version ...
..and what version of office did you try on your mac ? Office 2011 for
Mac was a massive improvement over previous versions, so if you have
only tried older ones, things have improved.
>
>>
>>
>> On 7 Jan 2013, at 09:03, keith_w wrote:
>>
>>> Need a little more info here, Ms Bacon...
>>>
>>> What version of OpenOffice were you trying and what version of your Mac or
>>> PC operating system were you trying it ON, please?
>>> See interspersed below for more comments.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Josephine Bacon bacon@langservice.com >wrote:
>>>
>>> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with
>>>> other formats. Unfortunately, you will be stuck with buying Word for the
>>>> Mac simply because it transfers seamlessly to the PC but it is a very
>>>> inferior word-processing program...
>>>>
>>>
>>> What specifically is "a very inferior word-processing program"? In the
>>> previous sentence you were taking about TWO W-P programs, OO and MSWord.
>>> Which one, in your estimation, is "very inferior"?
>>> To what others?
>>>
>>> ...and does not support right to left text (though I doubt you will have a
>>>> need for that).
>>>>
>>>> Josephine Bacon
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm unfamiliar with OO, but do have and use NeoOffice, which is based on OO
>>> and find it most capable.
>>>
>>> BTW, so far as working with other formats, I find that when I attempt to
>>> save a WP document, looking only at MS Word entries and ignoring all the
>>> other 'save as' entries, it will save as:
>>>
>>> Word 97/2000/XP, Word 95 and 6.0 (.doc)
>>> Word 2003 XML (.xml)
>>> Word 2007 XML (.docx)
>>>
>>> FWIW, I am Keith Whaley
>>> OS = OSX v. 10.7.5
>>> NO = v. 3.2.1 Patch 8
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
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> On 07/01/13 15:52, Josephine Bacon wrote:
>> I was using a Mac.
>
> Well yes, obviously. Keith asked what sort of mac, and with what OSX
> version ...
..and what version of office did you try on your mac ? Office 2011 for
Mac was a massive improvement over previous versions, so if you have
only tried older ones, things have improved.
>
>>
>>
>> On 7 Jan 2013, at 09:03, keith_w wrote:
>>
>>> Need a little more info here, Ms Bacon...
>>>
>>> What version of OpenOffice were you trying and what version of your Mac or
>>> PC operating system were you trying it ON, please?
>>> See interspersed below for more comments.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Josephine Bacon bacon@langservice.
>>>
>>> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What specifically is "a very inferior word-processing program"
>>> previous sentence you were taking about TWO W-P programs, OO and MSWord.
>>> Which one, in your estimation, is "very inferior"
>>> To what others?
>>>
>>> ...and does not support right to left text (though I doubt you will have a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm unfamiliar with OO, but do have and use NeoOffice, which is based on OO
>>> and find it most capable.
>>>
>>> BTW, so far as working with other formats, I find that when I attempt to
>>> save a WP document, looking only at MS Word entries and ignoring all the
>>> other 'save as' entries, it will save as:
>>>
>>> Word 97/2000/XP, Word 95 and 6.0 (.doc)
>>> Word 2003 XML (.xml)
>>> Word 2007 XML (.docx)
>>>
>>> FWIW, I am Keith Whaley
>>> OS = OSX v. 10.7.5
>>> NO = v. 3.2.1 Patch 8
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:11 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 07/01/13 15:51, Barry Austern wrote:
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:38 AM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
>
>> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with other formats.
>
> Here I don't understand. I've never used it myself, in fact never even seen it, but I was under the impression that it read and wrote Micro$oft Office documents seamlessly.
Its pretty good, but not perfect. Certainly OpenOffice can open the
standard MS Office file formats, and most of the time does a perfect job
formatting them. But its not 100% guaranteed, sometimes there are
slightly differences, with fonts for instance.
Note though not even MS itself can get this perfect. I've seen just as
many examples of issues when a document written with MS office on a mac
is opened with MS office on a PC, or vice versa, so OpenOffice is not
really doing any worse..
Chris
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:38 AM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
>
>> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with other formats.
>
> Here I don't understand. I've never used it myself, in fact never even seen it, but I was under the impression that it read and wrote Micro$oft Office documents seamlessly.
Its pretty good, but not perfect. Certainly OpenOffice can open the
standard MS Office file formats, and most of the time does a perfect job
formatting them. But its not 100% guaranteed, sometimes there are
slightly differences, with fonts for instance.
Note though not even MS itself can get this perfect. I've seen just as
many examples of issues when a document written with MS office on a mac
is opened with MS office on a PC, or vice versa, so OpenOffice is not
really doing any worse..
Chris
Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:15 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Josephine Bacon" baconandeggs_2001
So was I until I used it.
Josephine Bacon
On 7 Jan 2013, at 16:11, Chris Jones wrote:
> On 07/01/13 15:51, Barry Austern wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:38 AM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> >
> >> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with other formats.
> >
> > Here I don't understand. I've never used it myself, in fact never even seen it, but I was under the impression that it read and wrote Micro$oft Office documents seamlessly.
>
> Its pretty good, but not perfect. Certainly OpenOffice can open the
> standard MS Office file formats, and most of the time does a perfect job
> formatting them. But its not 100% guaranteed, sometimes there are
> slightly differences, with fonts for instance.
>
> Note though not even MS itself can get this perfect. I've seen just as
> many examples of issues when a document written with MS office on a mac
> is opened with MS office on a PC, or vice versa, so OpenOffice is not
> really doing any worse..
>
> Chris
>
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations Limited
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London WC1x 9BZ
Tel:+44 207 833 0607
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Josephine Bacon
On 7 Jan 2013, at 16:11, Chris Jones wrote:
> On 07/01/13 15:51, Barry Austern wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:38 AM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> >
> >> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with other formats.
> >
> > Here I don't understand. I've never used it myself, in fact never even seen it, but I was under the impression that it read and wrote Micro$oft Office documents seamlessly.
>
> Its pretty good, but not perfect. Certainly OpenOffice can open the
> standard MS Office file formats, and most of the time does a perfect job
> formatting them. But its not 100% guaranteed, sometimes there are
> slightly differences, with fonts for instance.
>
> Note though not even MS itself can get this perfect. I've seen just as
> many examples of issues when a document written with MS office on a mac
> is opened with MS office on a PC, or vice versa, so OpenOffice is not
> really doing any worse..
>
> Chris
>
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations Limited
179 Kings Cross Road
London WC1x 9BZ
Tel:+44 207 833 0607
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:36 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 07/01/13 16:14, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> So was I until I used it.
I still maintain OpenOffice on a mac does not do that much worse at
being compatible with docs created with MS office on a pc, than MS
office on a mac manages ...
>
> Josephine Bacon
> On 7 Jan 2013, at 16:11, Chris Jones wrote:
>
>> On 07/01/13 15:51, Barry Austern wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:38 AM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I dropped Open Office like a hot potato when I found it does NOT work with other formats.
>>>
>>> Here I don't understand. I've never used it myself, in fact never even seen it, but I was under the impression that it read and wrote Micro$oft Office documents seamlessly.
>>
>> Its pretty good, but not perfect. Certainly OpenOffice can open the
>> standard MS Office file formats, and most of the time does a perfect job
>> formatting them. But its not 100% guaranteed, sometimes there are
>> slightly differences, with fonts for instance.
>>
>> Note though not even MS itself can get this perfect. I've seen just as
>> many examples of issues when a document written with MS office on a mac
>> is opened with MS office on a PC, or vice versa, so OpenOffice is not
>> really doing any worse..
>>
>> Chris
>>
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> So was I until I used it.
I still maintain OpenOffice on a mac does not do that much worse at
being compatible with docs created with MS office on a pc, than MS
office on a mac manages ...
>
> Josephine Bacon
> On 7 Jan 2013, at 16:11, Chris Jones wrote:
>
>> On 07/01/13 15:51, Barry Austern wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:38 AM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here I don't understand. I've never used it myself, in fact never even seen it, but I was under the impression that it read and wrote Micro$oft Office documents seamlessly.
>>
>> Its pretty good, but not perfect. Certainly OpenOffice can open the
>> standard MS Office file formats, and most of the time does a perfect job
>> formatting them. But its not 100% guaranteed, sometimes there are
>> slightly differences, with fonts for instance.
>>
>> Note though not even MS itself can get this perfect. I've seen just as
>> many examples of issues when a document written with MS office on a mac
>> is opened with MS office on a PC, or vice versa, so OpenOffice is not
>> really doing any worse..
>>
>> Chris
>>
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:05 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Paul Smith" waldonny
NeoOffice asks you to donate $10 per year in order to get the latest updates as soon as they are released. You can use it for free if you don't mind waiting before getting the latest version.
MacBook Pro w/ Mac OS 10.8.2, iPhone 4S 64 GB and iPad 4 32 GB w/ iOS 6.0.1
On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Chris Jones jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
> NeoOffine started life when OpenOffice didn't exst of OSX, but
> it does now and has excellent support. NeoOffice adds nothing other than
> a small hole in your wallet, so stay away from it I would say.
MacBook Pro w/ Mac OS 10.8.2, iPhone 4S 64 GB and iPad 4 32 GB w/ iOS 6.0.1
On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Chris Jones jonesc@hep.phy.
> NeoOffine started life when OpenOffice didn't exst of OSX, but
> it does now and has excellent support. NeoOffice adds nothing other than
> a small hole in your wallet, so stay away from it I would say.
Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:10 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Barry Austern wrote:
> I noticed that too quite a while back. You have to type the Hebrew characters in a left to right order. Pages and Text Edit work fine, as does FireFox and Apple's mail. For just a few words it is not that much of a problem. "Shalom" can be typed mem (sofit), vov, lamed, shin to get (I'm typing t his in Mail now, and have no idea if it will transit the internet) 蚸���. I always thought it was something I simply did not understand, that there was some way to do it, one I simply did not catch onto. I guess misery loves company, so your message at least kept me from keeping on looking how to do it.
For what it's worth, here's an article I found that discusses how to do this using TextEdit and Apple Mail (and other things):
http://symbolcodes.
Daly
Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:34 am (PST) . Posted by:
"keith_w" keith9600
Thanks you Paul. $10 is pretty cheap for a great little WP.
I figure that by the time 5 years are past, you'll either be moving on, or
decide $10/year is pretty inexpensive for what you get...
Most usually "free" stuff is worth just what you pay for it.
keith
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Paul Smith kullervo@nycap.rr.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> NeoOffice asks you to donate $10 per year in order to get the latest
> updates as soon as they are released. You can use it for free if you don't
> mind waiting before getting the latest version.
>
> MacBook Pro w/ Mac OS 10.8.2, iPhone 4S 64 GB and iPad 4 32 GB w/ iOS 6.0.1
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Chris Jones jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
>
> > NeoOffine started life when OpenOffice didn't exst of OSX, but
> > it does now and has excellent support. NeoOffice adds nothing other than
> > a small hole in your wallet, so stay away from it I would say.
>
>
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I figure that by the time 5 years are past, you'll either be moving on, or
decide $10/year is pretty inexpensive for what you get...
Most usually "free" stuff is worth just what you pay for it.
keith
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Paul Smith kullervo@nycap.
> **
>
>
> NeoOffice asks you to donate $10 per year in order to get the latest
> updates as soon as they are released. You can use it for free if you don't
> mind waiting before getting the latest version.
>
> MacBook Pro w/ Mac OS 10.8.2, iPhone 4S 64 GB and iPad 4 32 GB w/ iOS 6.0.1
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Chris Jones jonesc@hep.phy.
>
> > NeoOffine started life when OpenOffice didn't exst of OSX, but
> > it does now and has excellent support. NeoOffice adds nothing other than
> > a small hole in your wallet, so stay away from it I would say.
>
>
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Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:35 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Barry Austern wrote:
>
> > I noticed that too quite a while back. You have to type the Hebrew characters in a left to right order. Pages and Text Edit work fine, as does FireFox and Apple's mail. For just a few words it is not that much of a problem. "Shalom" can be typed mem (sofit), vov, lamed, shin to get (I'm typing t his in Mail now, and have no idea if it will transit the internet) 蚸���. I always thought it was something I simply did not understand, that there was some way to do it, one I simply did not catch onto. I guess misery loves company, so your message at least kept me from keeping on looking how to do it.
>
> For what it's worth, here's an article I found that discusses how to do this using TextEdit and Apple Mail (and other things):
> http://symbolcodes.
>
>
>
Interestingly, it shows how to do it in NeoOffice, but not in Micro$oft Word, which NeoOffice supposedly is sort of the same thing as.
Looks as if my Hebrew did transit the internet okay.
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
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