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Tue Sep 3, 2013 5:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
James,
I mentioned you as the OP with an end user level problem in one of my post . And recognized Charles as talking about business level issues and volumes, that probably did not apply to an end user.
My experience is that spam comes in waves with the volume varying over time. Once, one of your e-ddresses gets on a list of spam targets, it will stay there as long as you have that e-ddress. I have kept many of the same user names as I have moved from ISP to ISP. I have found it is easier to try and stay off those lists, but that is almost impossible.
I have had occasion to use ARPNET, but I have never run into a ASCII spam or porn. I recognize what you are talking about, and have see the similar images off of news service teletypes, long before ARPNET was a sparkle in anyone's eye.
I'm sorry the volume has gotten that high that you had to add a third party spam app.
When I mentioned google's, as I said, I was not referring to PRISM (or the NSA), but google's lack of respect for privacy of their users/customers. I don't think they should be combing through our correspondence to direct advertisement or learn our acquaintances. Although many see no problem in this, I, for one think that, at worst, should be an opt-in situation, not a unilateral decision made by the service provider, with no recourse by the user. So, I opted out by not using their service.
I look at google's invasion of privacy, as if the USPS, were opening mail, to sell the info to directed marketing firms. Yes, there have been time when mail has been opened and censored, but those were war times and not for advertising purposes.
I'm glad you have found a solution that satisfies you.
Brent
On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:37 PM, James Robertson wrote:
On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> Take a look at the below. Gmail's filters can't do any better with out stopping too much of the good email. Mail's filters have caught nearly 40% of the spam that got through my ISP, and they all use spam filter's to lower their overhead.
Since I'm the OP here, I'll summarize my own realizations a bit :-)
First, I learned that I shouldn't have been so critical of myself. What motivated me to embark on this project was an alarming increase in the amount of spam I'm receiving, most of it vaguely salacious; I'm old enough to remember when "porn" meant one of those ASCII print-outs of Cheryl Tiegs from a DEC line printer, and all this recent stuff has been ASCII character groupings that sometimes could be regrouped into sexual themes. I thought I must have clicked somewhere I shouldn't have while wandering a bit aimlessly from Google News early in the morning. However, when my wife asked me why I was spending so much of my holiday weekend reading "Take Control" books, I told her about the recent deluge, and she replied that she's GETTING THE SAME STUFF, SO IF I FOUND A SOLUTION PLEASE PUT IN ON HER MACBOOK PRO, TOO.
Actually, I THINK I knew it wasn't quite that simple. After all, clicking links while browsing doesn't send my email address anywhere. In THAT sense, the realization that my wife is seeing the same phenomenon could - I guess - be reassuring.
Second, following the advice of people who usually know what they're talking about in all things Mac (Chris Breen from Macworld, David Pogue, and Randy Singer), I installed Spamsieve. I can tell already that the spam spigot has been wrenched almost closed (just now something got through extolling my financial prowess and congratulating me on my willingness to invest in real estate in an unnamed foreign country).
So it looks as though I won't have to pay Google to comb my mail for keywords while NSA distributed processing farms check Google's work (not that I'm so naive as to believe that the NSA isn't doing it even without the benefit of blanket surveilance of everything that goes through Google's mail servers).
Bottom Line: Spamsieve appears to be qualitatively superior to Mail.app's Junk Mail filter, right out of the box.
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I mentioned you as the OP with an end user level problem in one of my post . And recognized Charles as talking about business level issues and volumes, that probably did not apply to an end user.
My experience is that spam comes in waves with the volume varying over time. Once, one of your e-ddresses gets on a list of spam targets, it will stay there as long as you have that e-ddress. I have kept many of the same user names as I have moved from ISP to ISP. I have found it is easier to try and stay off those lists, but that is almost impossible.
I have had occasion to use ARPNET, but I have never run into a ASCII spam or porn. I recognize what you are talking about, and have see the similar images off of news service teletypes, long before ARPNET was a sparkle in anyone's eye.
I'm sorry the volume has gotten that high that you had to add a third party spam app.
When I mentioned google's, as I said, I was not referring to PRISM (or the NSA), but google's lack of respect for privacy of their users/customers. I don't think they should be combing through our correspondence to direct advertisement or learn our acquaintances. Although many see no problem in this, I, for one think that, at worst, should be an opt-in situation, not a unilateral decision made by the service provider, with no recourse by the user. So, I opted out by not using their service.
I look at google's invasion of privacy, as if the USPS, were opening mail, to sell the info to directed marketing firms. Yes, there have been time when mail has been opened and censored, but those were war times and not for advertising purposes.
I'm glad you have found a solution that satisfies you.
Brent
On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:37 PM, James Robertson wrote:
On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
> Take a look at the below. Gmail's filters can't do any better with out stopping too much of the good email. Mail's filters have caught nearly 40% of the spam that got through my ISP, and they all use spam filter's to lower their overhead.
Since I'm the OP here, I'll summarize my own realizations a bit :-)
First, I learned that I shouldn'
Actually, I THINK I knew it wasn't quite that simple. After all, clicking links while browsing doesn't send my email address anywhere. In THAT sense, the realization that my wife is seeing the same phenomenon could - I guess - be reassuring.
Second, following the advice of people who usually know what they're talking about in all things Mac (Chris Breen from Macworld, David Pogue, and Randy Singer), I installed Spamsieve. I can tell already that the spam spigot has been wrenched almost closed (just now something got through extolling my financial prowess and congratulating me on my willingness to invest in real estate in an unnamed foreign country).
So it looks as though I won't have to pay Google to comb my mail for keywords while NSA distributed processing farms check Google's work (not that I'm so naive as to believe that the NSA isn't doing it even without the benefit of blanket surveilance of everything that goes through Google's mail servers).
Bottom Line: Spamsieve appears to be qualitatively superior to Mail.app'
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Jim Robertson
__o
_-\<,
(*)/ (*)
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My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
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Tue Sep 3, 2013 6:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Again, another case where one size does _not_ fit all.
I have never found the volume of spam to be that high, that I needed to add an app to handle it. That is not to say that I have not found it at times to be very aggravating.
I can very easily see where in Randy's or Charles Carroll's situations, that the volume would be large enough to require extra help filtering spam.
I had never looked at Spamsieve, until now, and I am impressed by the fact that the developer included automatic analysis of it's accuracy and made that available to the user.
While spam is almost inevitable, and almost impossible to prevent, I look at it more as a symptom of poor internet habits. Granted we all that that one aunt or old friend that emails every joke or chain email they ever received to everyone in their address book, with all the thousands of attached e-ddresses. So the poor internet habits don't have to be just our own, but also those of your correspondents. It took me years to train a couple of my relatives better internet habits. And sometimes it took phone calls where I screamed at them for spreading my e-ddress all over the internet. Put succinctly, we all need to help friends and family practice safe internet habits.
But then again we have social networking like Facebook, and all those poor judgements on what to share with others. So I think trying to teach others better internet habits, a constant and uphill or losing battle. So I see the need to have apps like Spamsieve, available.
And we each have different levels of tolerance for spam. Personally, I enjoy a good Spam® sandwich every once in a while, and have even been to the Hormel's Spam® Museum in Austin, MN.
Brent
On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:37 PM, James Robertson wrote:
> Bottom Line: Spamsieve appears to be qualitatively superior to Mail.app's Junk Mail filter, right out of the box.
SpamSieve keeps meticulous statistics of its efforts. (Click on SpamSieve in the Dock and then hit Command-2.)
Right now, for me, it is reporting that it has been 99.7% accurate.
It's created about 10,000 blocklist rules and about 30,000 whitelist rules in the past 4.5 years. Yet it doesn't seem to have impacted Mail's performance a bit.
Every now and then the spammers come up with something new and cute to try and mess up user's anti-spam filters, and a spam message will squeak through. With SpamSieve it's not a problem. You just mark that message as spam and all similar messages are blocked forever more.
___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
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I have never found the volume of spam to be that high, that I needed to add an app to handle it. That is not to say that I have not found it at times to be very aggravating.
I can very easily see where in Randy's or Charles Carroll'
I had never looked at Spamsieve, until now, and I am impressed by the fact that the developer included automatic analysis of it's accuracy and made that available to the user.
While spam is almost inevitable, and almost impossible to prevent, I look at it more as a symptom of poor internet habits. Granted we all that that one aunt or old friend that emails every joke or chain email they ever received to everyone in their address book, with all the thousands of attached e-ddresses. So the poor internet habits don't have to be just our own, but also those of your correspondents. It took me years to train a couple of my relatives better internet habits. And sometimes it took phone calls where I screamed at them for spreading my e-ddress all over the internet. Put succinctly, we all need to help friends and family practice safe internet habits.
But then again we have social networking like Facebook, and all those poor judgements on what to share with others. So I think trying to teach others better internet habits, a constant and uphill or losing battle. So I see the need to have apps like Spamsieve, available.
And we each have different levels of tolerance for spam. Personally, I enjoy a good Spam® sandwich every once in a while, and have even been to the Hormel's Spam® Museum in Austin, MN.
Brent
On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:37 PM, James Robertson wrote:
> Bottom Line: Spamsieve appears to be qualitatively superior to Mail.app'
SpamSieve keeps meticulous statistics of its efforts. (Click on SpamSieve in the Dock and then hit Command-2.)
Right now, for me, it is reporting that it has been 99.7% accurate.
It's created about 10,000 blocklist rules and about 30,000 whitelist rules in the past 4.5 years. Yet it doesn't seem to have impacted Mail's performance a bit.
Every now and then the spammers come up with something new and cute to try and mess up user's anti-spam filters, and a spam message will squeak through. With SpamSieve it's not a problem. You just mark that message as spam and all similar messages are blocked forever more.
____________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
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Tue Sep 3, 2013 7:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"caribsea@bellsouth.net" caribsea@bellsouth.net
Did I miss something? The App Store icon has disappeared from my iPad desktop.
Willi
Willi
Tue Sep 3, 2013 8:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Yeap! There will no longer be any new apps for any iDevices!
Just kidding. You probably just dropped it on another icon and hid it.
Brent
On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:08 AM, caribsea@bellsouth.net wrote:
Did I miss something? The App Store icon has disappeared from my iPad desktop.
Willi
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Just kidding. You probably just dropped it on another icon and hid it.
Brent
On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:08 AM, caribsea@bellsouth.
Did I miss something? The App Store icon has disappeared from my iPad desktop.
Willi
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Tue Sep 3, 2013 7:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"halfhoff" halfhoff
Thanks Randy. It's a great site. Appreciate the update too!
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
>
> I've done a quite extensive update to my Web site:
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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> I'd appreciate it if folks had a look at it and let me know if they see any mistakes, if they can find any broken links, or if there are things left out that folks would like to see.
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> Thanks!
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I've done a quite extensive update to my Web site:
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattor
>
> I'd appreciate it if folks had a look at it and let me know if they see any mistakes, if they can find any broken links, or if there are things left out that folks would like to see.
>
> Thanks!
>
> ____________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattor
> ____________
>
Tue Sep 3, 2013 7:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Les Streater" linernut_uk
I have recently upgraded to BT Infinity fibre broadband here in the UK. I need to try to set up port forwarding to allow my Xerox printer to connect to Xerox's servers, but I am totally baffled.
I have downloaded McAfee from the BT site, but do I need this? It seriously slows down the system and gives me lots of beachballs.
On my old Netgear I could access the firewall settings in the router and configure several outgoing rules - Ports 80, 8000, 8443, 9000 and 9443.
I can't find firewall settings in the BT hub. In McAfee I can find a firewall but this doesn't seem to respond and I have a feeling it's an internal firewall and nothing to do with the hub - is that possible? Should I just delete McAfee????
When I google port forwarding on Infinity there are loads of differing responses, many saying it can't be done, others that it corrupts the system, etc. BT's own guide has screen grabs that bear no resemblance to what actually comes up on screen.
Xerox's technical support say it should all be done within the printer and not through the mac. But when they talked me through the printer set up it made no difference.
The supplier of the printer doesn't offer network support.
BT's Technical Support refers me back to Xerox.
Anyone have any ideas about how this all fits together? Because I am totally lost!
Thanks for any help.
Les Streater
I have downloaded McAfee from the BT site, but do I need this? It seriously slows down the system and gives me lots of beachballs.
On my old Netgear I could access the firewall settings in the router and configure several outgoing rules - Ports 80, 8000, 8443, 9000 and 9443.
I can't find firewall settings in the BT hub. In McAfee I can find a firewall but this doesn't seem to respond and I have a feeling it's an internal firewall and nothing to do with the hub - is that possible? Should I just delete McAfee????
When I google port forwarding on Infinity there are loads of differing responses, many saying it can't be done, others that it corrupts the system, etc. BT's own guide has screen grabs that bear no resemblance to what actually comes up on screen.
Xerox's technical support say it should all be done within the printer and not through the mac. But when they talked me through the printer set up it made no difference.
The supplier of the printer doesn't offer network support.
BT's Technical Support refers me back to Xerox.
Anyone have any ideas about how this all fits together? Because I am totally lost!
Thanks for any help.
Les Streater
Tue Sep 3, 2013 8:20 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Julian Thomas"
On 3Sep 2013, at 10:47 AM, Les Streater <les.streater@
> I have downloaded McAfee from the BT site, but do I need this? It seriously slows down the system and gives me lots of beach balls.
Best bet is to get rid of it and get clamXav.
I leave the questions about the BT hub [or is it a router?] to someone familiar with the device and the service.
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Tue Sep 3, 2013 8:34 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
You have not told us what you are trying to accomplish with your printer. I bet you have a full set of Xerox drivers already provided by Apple, if you are running a version of OS X from 10.4 or newer. (I kind of have an impression or memory that you were running an older version.)
Give us a little more info.
Brent
On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Les Streater wrote:
I have recently upgraded to BT Infinity fibre broadband here in the UK. I need to try to set up port forwarding to allow my Xerox printer to connect to Xerox's servers, but I am totally baffled.
I have downloaded McAfee from the BT site, but do I need this? It seriously slows down the system and gives me lots of beachballs.
On my old Netgear I could access the firewall settings in the router and configure several outgoing rules - Ports 80, 8000, 8443, 9000 and 9443.
I can't find firewall settings in the BT hub. In McAfee I can find a firewall but this doesn't seem to respond and I have a feeling it's an internal firewall and nothing to do with the hub - is that possible? Should I just delete McAfee????
When I google port forwarding on Infinity there are loads of differing responses, many saying it can't be done, others that it corrupts the system, etc. BT's own guide has screen grabs that bear no resemblance to what actually comes up on screen.
Xerox's technical support say it should all be done within the printer and not through the mac. But when they talked me through the printer set up it made no difference.
The supplier of the printer doesn't offer network support.
BT's Technical Support refers me back to Xerox.
Anyone have any ideas about how this all fits together? Because I am totally lost!
Thanks for any help.
Les Streater
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Give us a little more info.
Brent
On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Les Streater wrote:
I have recently upgraded to BT Infinity fibre broadband here in the UK. I need to try to set up port forwarding to allow my Xerox printer to connect to Xerox's servers, but I am totally baffled.
I have downloaded McAfee from the BT site, but do I need this? It seriously slows down the system and gives me lots of beachballs.
On my old Netgear I could access the firewall settings in the router and configure several outgoing rules - Ports 80, 8000, 8443, 9000 and 9443.
I can't find firewall settings in the BT hub. In McAfee I can find a firewall but this doesn't seem to respond and I have a feeling it's an internal firewall and nothing to do with the hub - is that possible? Should I just delete McAfee????
When I google port forwarding on Infinity there are loads of differing responses, many saying it can't be done, others that it corrupts the system, etc. BT's own guide has screen grabs that bear no resemblance to what actually comes up on screen.
Xerox's technical support say it should all be done within the printer and not through the mac. But when they talked me through the printer set up it made no difference.
The supplier of the printer doesn't offer network support.
BT's Technical Support refers me back to Xerox.
Anyone have any ideas about how this all fits together? Because I am totally lost!
Thanks for any help.
Les Streater
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Tue Sep 3, 2013 8:59 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Les Streater" linernut_uk
Apologies, I am so wound up over this I forgot to give the basics!
I am on a 27in iMac, OSX 10.6.8, 12GB memory, printing to a Xerox 7800. I have working drivers etc., it's port forwarding that's baffling me.
Since buying the printer Xerox have brought in a new requirement that all large printers on PagePack contracts have to automatically and regularly connect to the Xerox servers to send meter readings and toner readings, so that they can automatically send out fresh toner as needed. If you don't automatically connect they charge you an extra fee every quarter for the privilege of using your own phone to order toner!
Unfortunately their software is PC only, not Mac or Linux, so it has to be hand adjusted. And every router, hub and modem [is there a difference????] needs different settings.
A senior Xerox technician assured me today it could be done direct from the printer without needing to go through the router - but as it is ethernet connected to the router and then to the internet that didn't seem right. And his instructions also failed to connect so he's had to refer it back to even more senior people in Dublin.
Hope this clarifies the situation a bit - it's still very cloudy to me.....
Les
On 3 Sep 2013, at 16:34, N.A. Nada wrote:
You have not told us what you are trying to accomplish with your printer. I bet you have a full set of Xerox drivers already provided by Apple, if you are running a version of OS X from 10.4 or newer. (I kind of have an impression or memory that you were running an older version.)
Give us a little more info.
Brent
I am on a 27in iMac, OSX 10.6.8, 12GB memory, printing to a Xerox 7800. I have working drivers etc., it's port forwarding that's baffling me.
Since buying the printer Xerox have brought in a new requirement that all large printers on PagePack contracts have to automatically and regularly connect to the Xerox servers to send meter readings and toner readings, so that they can automatically send out fresh toner as needed. If you don't automatically connect they charge you an extra fee every quarter for the privilege of using your own phone to order toner!
Unfortunately their software is PC only, not Mac or Linux, so it has to be hand adjusted. And every router, hub and modem [is there a difference??
A senior Xerox technician assured me today it could be done direct from the printer without needing to go through the router - but as it is ethernet connected to the router and then to the internet that didn't seem right. And his instructions also failed to connect so he's had to refer it back to even more senior people in Dublin.
Hope this clarifies the situation a bit - it's still very cloudy to me.....
Les
On 3 Sep 2013, at 16:34, N.A. Nada wrote:
You have not told us what you are trying to accomplish with your printer. I bet you have a full set of Xerox drivers already provided by Apple, if you are running a version of OS X from 10.4 or newer. (I kind of have an impression or memory that you were running an older version.)
Give us a little more info.
Brent
Tue Sep 3, 2013 9:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:
ken.klein
I use One Password on my MAC/Iphone/IPad. My wife will not switch from her PC. I know One Password has a PC version. But...my question is....if she installs One Password on her PC can we exchange password "data" between computers?
Ken
Ken
Tue Sep 3, 2013 9:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Gijzette Strickland" gijzette
Ken,
I know you can do this if you're using Dropbox to sync between devices.
On Tuesday, September 3, 2013, wrote:
> I use One Password on my MAC/Iphone/IPad. My wife will not switch from her
> PC. I know One Password has a PC version. But...my question is....if she
> installs One Password on her PC can we exchange password "data"
> between computers?
> Ken
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I know you can do this if you're using Dropbox to sync between devices.
On Tuesday, September 3, 2013, wrote:
> I use One Password on my MAC/Iphone/IPad. My wife will not switch from her
> PC. I know One Password has a PC version. But...my question is....if she
> installs One Password on her PC can we exchange password "data"
> between computers?
> Ken
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http://www.elfinbea
http://twitter.
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harbor a teddy bear - which is perhaps why they are thoroughly mature and
well-adjusted.
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Tue Sep 3, 2013 10:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:
ed-reiff
Yes, Try this: http://support.agilebits.com/kb/syncing/how-to-move-your-1password-data-file-between-pc-and-mac Ed
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
I use One Password on my MAC/Iphone/IPad. My wife will not switch from her PC. I know One Password has a PC version. But...my question is....if she installs One Password on her PC can we exchange password "data" between computers?
Ken
--- In macsupportcentral@
I use One Password on my MAC/Iphone/IPad. My wife will not switch from her PC. I know One Password has a PC version. But...my question is....if she installs One Password on her PC can we exchange password "data" between computers?
Ken
Tue Sep 3, 2013 10:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Eric" emanmb
Social Fixer is a cross platform browser add on that blocks ads and allows one to customize their FB page. You can add it to Firefox, Safari, Opera etc. http://SocialFixer.com/ It's donation ware so the author doesn't make a ton of $ off Social Fixer. His add ons work very well on Mac.
Today FB removed Social Fixer's page from FB saying there were complaints of spam, which it does not have. I find it suspicious personally but for now I'll go with the FB claim that there have been spam reports and it's all a misunderstanding. In the meantime their FB page remains down.
If you don't use Facebook this won't matter, but I thought I'd mention this as I see the author as one of the good guys and also it shows how tenuous one's professional page can be on that site.
<http://socialfixer.com/blog/2013/09/02/facebook-removes-social-fixer-page-without-warning/ >
Today FB removed Social Fixer's page from FB saying there were complaints of spam, which it does not have. I find it suspicious personally but for now I'll go with the FB claim that there have been spam reports and it's all a misunderstanding. In the meantime their FB page remains down.
If you don't use Facebook this won't matter, but I thought I'd mention this as I see the author as one of the good guys and also it shows how tenuous one's professional page can be on that site.
<http://socialfixer.
Tue Sep 3, 2013 11:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barb Adamski" bkadamski
Yes, l had HP printers before, so I steered clear of em for my scanner...
Barb Adamski
Sent from my iPad
On 2013-09-02, at 1:59 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Your welcome. Anytime.
>
> I'm glad you chose Canon for your scanner. In the past I spent two weeks dealing with HP tech support on an issue w their drivers and OSX. I saw that despite their claim, they lied to me over and over about OSX compatibility. I was never able to get my HP scanner/printer to work w OSX. I bought a Canon scanner/printer and it worked first time every time with OSX. HP is garbage. Since 2000, HP has lost half it's value. I'll be waving goodbye when it gets dismantled.
>
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> > Yup. That's an awesome thing to know. Thanks, HAL9000!
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> > On 2013-09-02, at 4:41 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
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> > > It seems you can now also use Preview and System Preferences > Print & Scan.
> > > <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505 >
> > >
> > > Otto
> > >
> > > On 2 September 2013 12:25, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@...> wrote:
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> > >> I think he is talking about the program "Image Capture" which should be in
> > >> your applications folder.
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Barb Adamski
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On 2013-09-02, at 1:59 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.
> Your welcome. Anytime.
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> I'm glad you chose Canon for your scanner. In the past I spent two weeks dealing with HP tech support on an issue w their drivers and OSX. I saw that despite their claim, they lied to me over and over about OSX compatibility. I was never able to get my HP scanner/printer to work w OSX. I bought a Canon scanner/printer and it worked first time every time with OSX. HP is garbage. Since 2000, HP has lost half it's value. I'll be waving goodbye when it gets dismantled.
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> > Yup. That's an awesome thing to know. Thanks, HAL9000!
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> > On 2013-09-02, at 4:41 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@
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> > > It seems you can now also use Preview and System Preferences > Print & Scan.
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> > > Otto
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> > > On 2 September 2013 12:25, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@
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> > >> I think he is talking about the program "Image Capture" which should be in
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Tue Sep 3, 2013 2:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
Interesting news at http://www.macrumors.com/
About the multi colours rumoured of the 5C, shipping of the 5C/S, and Microsoft buying Nokias handset business.
Going to be an active and busy forum month! Holiday is over, forum readers.
About the multi colours rumoured of the 5C, shipping of the 5C/S, and Microsoft buying Nokias handset business.
Going to be an active and busy forum month! Holiday is over, forum readers.
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