9/07/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9740

13 New Messages

Digest #9740
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Re: Leopard partition by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Encryption/security by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Encryption/security by "David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
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Re: Encryption/security by "James Robertson" jamesrob328i
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Re: Encryption/security by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Re: Fusion by "John Engberg" mrbyte
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Safari autofill by "Patsy Price" beyondwords2
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Re: Safari autofill by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: Safari autofill by "Patsy Price" beyondwords2
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Re: Safari autofill by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: Safari autofill by "Julian Thomas"

Messages

Fri Sep 6, 2013 9:24 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> But I cannot get the iMac to boot from either the Leopard installer disk, or the Leopard disk image.
>
> Have I gone beyond the ability to boot from Leopard, having gone to Mountain Lion on the main HD.
>
> It doesn't make sense, unless Leopard is incompatible with a late 2009 27" iMac.
>
> 27" iMac, 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 12gig RAM, OSX10.8.4, 1 TBHD, 1 external DVD firewire burner, 500GB external firewire HD.

iMac10,1 came with Snow Leopard, which suggests that it will not boot from anything earlier.

Fri Sep 6, 2013 9:25 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I hope this is not a silly question…….
> I have encrypted some but not all user accounts on my iMac using FileVault.
> I do daily backups (as a clone) to external hard drive using carbon copy cloner.
>
> Because some accounts are encrypted on the computer and then copied to the external hard drive, does it mean that the accounts on the external hard drive are also encrypted?

Yes.
That's what a clone is: identical.

Fri Sep 6, 2013 10:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On Sep 6, 2013, at 03:37 , ck368@me.com wrote:

> I have encrypted some but not all user accounts on my iMac using FileVault.
>
> I do daily backups (as a clone) to external hard drive using carbon copy cloner.
>
> Because some accounts are encrypted on the computer and then copied to the external hard drive, does it mean that the accounts on the external hard drive are also encrypted?

Yes--you can check this by booting from the clone and trying to open one of the encrypted user accounts. You should be prevented until you supply the correct password.

David

Fri Sep 6, 2013 11:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:

cheeky_chas

Thank you David and Jim

Charles.

On 6 Sep 2013, at 18:33, David Brostoff <davbro@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On Sep 6, 2013, at 03:37 , ck368@me.com wrote:
>
>> I have encrypted some but not all user accounts on my iMac using FileVault.
>>
>> I do daily backups (as a clone) to external hard drive using carbon copy cloner.
>>
>> Because some accounts are encrypted on the computer and then copied to the external hard drive, does it mean that the accounts on the external hard drive are also encrypted?
>
> Yes--you can check this by booting from the clone and trying to open one of the encrypted user accounts. You should be prevented until you supply the correct password.
>
> David
>
> ------------------------------------

Fri Sep 6, 2013 6:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Sep 6, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:

> Yes.
> That's what a clone is: identical.

I haven't looked recently, but my memory seems to be that both CCC and SuperDuper each do "block level" and "file level" clones, and that they're of course not the same things.

Is that not the case?

Jim Robertson

Fri Sep 6, 2013 9:22 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Sep 6, 2013, at 6:18 PM, James Robertson wrote:

> I haven't looked recently, but my memory seems to be that both CCC and SuperDuper each do "block level" and "file level" clones, and that they're of course not the same things.

SuperDuper never uses a sector-level copy; it always copies file by file, and that's the way a backup program should work.

A sector-level (aka block-level) copy of a disk volume with a corrupted catalog will give you a copy of that corrupted catalog. If you have a corrupted catalog, you usually don't know about it for days, weeks, or even months. By the time you realize you have a problem (usually when you have had a failure of your main hard drive, and have tried to bootup from your backup) you find yourself with a hosed backup just when you need it most.

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3150.html

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Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
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Fri Sep 6, 2013 11:05 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"John Engberg" mrbyte


On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:03 AM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> On Sep 6, 2013, at 12:55 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:36 PM, John Engberg <mrbyte@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've never had a problem before with any of the previous iterations go Fusion.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions out there?
>>
>> On the VMware community forums there are a few threads reporting what you may be experiencing. People who've upgraded sequentially all the way from V1 or V2 of Fusion may befall a problem somehow related to the upgrade installer not clearing out previous preferences correctly. Fusion's support people have listed a Terminal command that can banish those remnants and permit the new Fusion V6 to start up correctly and completely.
>>
>
> Thanks, Jim. I found the terminal command. Here it is if anyone is interested
>
> sudo rm /Library/Preferences/VMware&#92; Fusion/license.fusion.site.6.0.200*
>
> I tried using the terminal command before installing v6 (I had reverted to v5), but that didn't work. I had to install v6 and then run the command. That worked. This is the messiest Fusion installation I've ever encountered.
>
> John Engberg
>

I discovered that you don't need to go into Terminal (At least I my case I didn't). I had Fusion v5 on another machine. I tried to install v6, but it crashed, of course. So I went to the to the VM Fusion Preferences file in the root library and deleted the entry for license-fusion-60-2013. I tried the install again and it worked perfectly.

John Engberg

Fri Sep 6, 2013 12:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Patsy Price" beyondwords2

In Safari 5.1.9 on OS 10.6.8 it possible to find the list of autofill
items and delete only selected ones for a particular website?

(I know how to delete ALL the autofill items for a particular
website: Safari Preferences -> Autofill -> Other forms.)

I would like to do some housecleaning of autofill items for a
particular website but not start over from scratch.

Patsy

Fri Sep 6, 2013 3:22 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Interesting problem.

I have not found one that will allow you to delete only selected items from a single web site. You are only given the option to delete all, or delete all from a single web site, and that is as narrow as it goes.

Since it is likely less than 6 items, delete the web sites entries and enter them correctly next time. You will not have the option to omit an item. Sorry, no joy, here. There were many results in a web search, but none offered how to correct a misspelling, or remove a single entry in autofill.

The only place that I have more than a few items that repeatedly need to be entered into sites, is resume info. I keep a TextEdit doc, for that purpose, and cut & paste. But that is across many web sites, not repeatedly at one site.

I have autofill turned off in all of my browsers, except one. Thank you for the interesting question.

Brent

On Sep 6, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Patsy Price wrote:

In Safari 5.1.9 on OS 10.6.8 it possible to find the list of autofill
items and delete only selected ones for a particular website?

(I know how to delete ALL the autofill items for a particular
website: Safari Preferences -> Autofill -> Other forms.)

I would like to do some housecleaning of autofill items for a
particular website but not start over from scratch.

Patsy

Fri Sep 6, 2013 4:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Patsy Price" beyondwords2

It's a lot more than 6 items. It's at least 100 I want to get rid of,
and about 200 I want to save. All for one site: the moderator tools
for Freecycle. And those are for one field--the location. In the
Calgary group, for offers we require the name of a community and a
city quadrant, in either order. Examples: Brentwood NW, NW Brentwood,
Acadia SE, SE Acadia. But a whole lot of other variations have
sneaked in over the past year. Some are my typos. Others seem to be
whatever the member supplied, before I made the correction. Calgary
has about 200 communities. (I'm not concerned right now about the
location for members who live outside Calgary.)

In Library -> Safari I found a file called Form Values. But it's gibberish.

Maybe I'll just turn off autofill. And then decide whether to leave
it off or to start over. But first I'd just like to clean house if
it's possible.

Patsy

Brent wrote:
>I have not found one that will allow you to delete only selected
>items from a single web site. You are only given the option to
>delete all, or delete all from a single web site, and that is as
>narrow as it goes.
>
>Since it is likely less than 6 items, delete the web sites entries
>and enter them correctly next time. You will not have the option to
>omit an item. Sorry, no joy, here. There were many results in a web
>search, but none offered how to correct a misspelling, or remove a
>single entry in autofill.
<snip>
>I have autofill turned off in all of my browsers, except one. Thank
>you for the interesting question.

Patsy Price wrote:
>>In Safari 5.1.9 on OS 10.6.8 it possible to find the list of
>>autofill items and delete only selected ones for a particular
>>website?
>>
>> I know how to delete ALL the autofill items for a particular
>>website: Safari Preferences -> Autofill -> Other forms.
>>
>> I would like to do some housecleaning of autofill items for a
>>particular website but not start over from scratch.

Fri Sep 6, 2013 6:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

You have a somewhat unique situation.

I could not find a solution. Part of what I found were threads from Apple Discussions, and they did not offer a solution to removing individual autofill items, either.

BTW, I joined my local Freecycle group, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Brent

On Sep 6, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Patsy Price wrote:

It's a lot more than 6 items. It's at least 100 I want to get rid of,
and about 200 I want to save. All for one site: the moderator tools
for Freecycle. And those are for one field--the location. In the
Calgary group, for offers we require the name of a community and a
city quadrant, in either order. Examples: Brentwood NW, NW Brentwood,
Acadia SE, SE Acadia. But a whole lot of other variations have
sneaked in over the past year. Some are my typos. Others seem to be
whatever the member supplied, before I made the correction. Calgary
has about 200 communities. (I'm not concerned right now about the
location for members who live outside Calgary.)

In Library -> Safari I found a file called Form Values. But it's gibberish.

Maybe I'll just turn off autofill. And then decide whether to leave
it off or to start over. But first I'd just like to clean house if
it's possible.

Patsy

Brent wrote:
>I have not found one that will allow you to delete only selected
>items from a single web site. You are only given the option to
>delete all, or delete all from a single web site, and that is as
>narrow as it goes.
>
>Since it is likely less than 6 items, delete the web sites entries
>and enter them correctly next time. You will not have the option to
>omit an item. Sorry, no joy, here. There were many results in a web
>search, but none offered how to correct a misspelling, or remove a
>single entry in autofill.
<snip>
>I have autofill turned off in all of my browsers, except one. Thank
>you for the interesting question.

Patsy Price wrote:
>>In Safari 5.1.9 on OS 10.6.8 it possible to find the list of
>>autofill items and delete only selected ones for a particular
>>website?
>>
>> I know how to delete ALL the autofill items for a particular
>>website: Safari Preferences -> Autofill -> Other forms.
>>
>> I would like to do some housecleaning of autofill items for a
>>particular website but not start over from scratch.

Fri Sep 6, 2013 7:40 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Julian Thomas"


On 6Sep 2013, at 6:22 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have not found one that will allow you to delete only selected items from a single web site. You are only given the option to delete all, or delete all from a single web site, and that is as narrow as it goes.
>
For the adventuresome, in ~/Library/Safari there is probably a file with this information. However, the most likely suspects were not .plist files, where you might have a chance of doing some selective deletes.

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Fri Sep 6, 2013 5:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Eric" emanmb

Just get Hot Spot Shield.
It's free and if you want more beepers and buzzers there's a paid version. Here in Thailand some sites are blocked so to get around this I use HSS.

Downsides are VPN's will slow your wifi's performance and while using HSS I CANNOT send emails from Mail or browser based Yahoo. Perhaps w/the paid version you can tweak this. Also one will not be connectable using Torrent software as ports will all be closed.

To get around this I turn HSS on and off as needed.
e

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Bob Cook <cookrd1@...> wrote:
>
> > First, just use TeamViewer in the auto remote access mode. This will get you the security you need without having to set up a VPN. Downside is your home computer/internet must be on all the time.
> >
> > Or, just tether to your phone if you can.
> >
> > Recommendations on VPN - if you are going to pay for one, suggest you get one based in a country that doesn't require records be kept AND that uses shared access (lots of people have same internet IP address). If your needs are not quite so high, Hide My Ass or proXPN are good choices, and if you use the offer code for proXPN from Twit and go with the annual plan, cost is only $5/month as long as you keep the service.
> > BTW, some (maybe many?) sites don't implement SSL correctly, so you are correct in not trusting any public WIFI that isn't using WPA2 Enterprise.
>
> Thanks for responding. I'm hoping this topic is of general interest (how many of us DON'T sometimes sit, sip and surf at Starbucks or Peet's?). The questions that follow aren't in any way intended to be dismissive of your suggestions, but to help me understand what actually happens if I follow one of them. I won't get technical (because I can't); I'll focus on user experience.
>
> Let's say I'm at Starbucks or SFO or anywhere else that my public WiFi access is "open" to sniffing by the miscreant sitting across from me with his own laptop. I THINK what I'd be doing with TeamViewer is logging on to my Mac at home and using IT to do my browsing, email reading/composing, etc., so that the traffic of my personal data to/from the internet goes via my home computer, then back to my eyes via TeamViewer&#39;s encrypted tunnel between my home computer and my laptop. One problem with that is that if the purpose of obtaining internet access is to "grab" my inbox contents into my IMAP and Exchange accounts for offline reading, what I'll actually be doing is filling the instances of those inboxes on my HOME computer, not my laptop. (I think also I'd need to make certain my email client isn't running on my laptop when I connect to my home computer via TeamViewer, else the laptop might take advantage of the simultaneous unsecured connection to the Internet to synchronize mail (or does establishing a TeamViewer remote access connection prevent other internet access at the same time?).
>
> Another problem (I'm assuming that what I'm doing with TeamViewer is akin to opening a "Back To My Mac" screensharing connection or log in connection): when I do screensharing from my 15" laptop to my multi-monitor setup at home, each time I have to spend some setup time picking which monitor to look at, set screen aspect ratio, etc. When I do it from work to home or the other direction, I'm using fat pipes at both ends, so the user experience once I get the displays arranged isn't bad, but if I'm doing it over public WiFi surrounded by all the other laptop owners waiting for their OWN chance to be crammed into 34B for the next five hours, the maximum available throughput to each individual is DREADFUL. Adding the overhead of making my laptop primarily a remote control for my home Mac, then trying to stuff what my home Mac is trying to do for me through that SFO WiFi shared access would be even MORE painful (again, lots of assumptions on my part about what's actually happening here).
>
> I've actually considered your second suggestion and I'm getting ready to try it. My son is renting an apartment locally, and we've recently had ATT LTE data service turned on. A few months ago I purchased an ATT "Unite" MiFi hotspot that turned out not to be useful where I work remotely (LTE isn't available there yet, and the latency was painful). I've loaned my son the MiFi device, and with it his whole family get quite usable internet access for their desktops and laptops (they're on the honor system about not streaming or downloading HD movies, to control my costs). I plan to borrow back the MiFi device for my next two trips to test
> (1) can I save money and avoid the security concerns by making IT the WiFi access point for my and my wife's laptops?
> (2) will using it avoid all the issues I mentioned above?
>
> As far as not trusting Public WiFi that doesn't use WPA2 Enterprise: aren't they pretty much ALL guilty of that?
>
> Finally, your response to my concerns about the REAL security of VPN providers addressed concerns much more sophisticated than what I was actually asking. My use of a VPN to date involves logging on to enterprise health care servers, where I get an end-to-end tunneled connection in both directions. My understanding of what the subscription-based VPN providers really offer is encrypted traffic only from me to their servers, which also permits me to "tell the world" I'm somewhere else by showing the world that my IP address is atop Mt Everest or in Adack, AK--actually I doubt I'll find a VPN provider with servers in one of those locations :-)
>
> My question related to the issue of the accessibility of my "stuff" to bad guys as it travels from the VPN provider's servers to its real destination, be that my ISP's mail servers, my bank, my iCloud servers, or whatever. My feeble understanding of the way the internet "works" is that this part of the data journey is much lower risk, because the ONE place where everything could be traveling in a continuous stream of readable data is the very first hop from my computer to the first router, and THAT's where the risk lies with open unencrypted WiFi. Am I right there?
>
> Again, thanks so much for answering. I'm learning quite a bit here!
>
>
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