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Mon Sep 2, 2013 6:06 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bob Cook" cookrd1
Unless you have an 11.ac device at both ends, you aren't going to see much
if any improvement. The higher throughput on 11.ac only affects the 5 GHz
band and is achieved with beamforming and channel bonding. The new
11.adstandard will implement beamforming on 2.4 GHz. Apple laptops
are hindered
when it comes to WIFI due to the unibody construction. Not much room for
the wifi signal to "escape" through the Apple logo which also really limits
antenna spacing and design. At least that is the case on mine. My
solution is to just use a good quality external adapter.
I would not recommend spending any money to upgrade to 11.ac. Wait for
11.ad which should be approved early next year.
-Bob
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> There has been some complaints about the Extreme ac that it fast on both ac
> or n but not that fast. I have 20 down 10 up here at home speed wise it
> might be a little faster than the older extreme. But the Extreme ac is
> slower than the D-Link ac at the office and we have the same up and down
> speed as at home. What do like is how strong the signal is on it that is
> outstanding.
> Mike
>
>
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if any improvement. The higher throughput on 11.ac only affects the 5 GHz
band and is achieved with beamforming and channel bonding. The new
11.adstandard will implement beamforming on 2.4 GHz. Apple laptops
are hindered
when it comes to WIFI due to the unibody construction. Not much room for
the wifi signal to "escape" through the Apple logo which also really limits
antenna spacing and design. At least that is the case on mine. My
solution is to just use a good quality external adapter.
I would not recommend spending any money to upgrade to 11.ac. Wait for
11.ad which should be approved early next year.
-Bob
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.
> **
>
>
> There has been some complaints about the Extreme ac that it fast on both ac
> or n but not that fast. I have 20 down 10 up here at home speed wise it
> might be a little faster than the older extreme. But the Extreme ac is
> slower than the D-Link ac at the office and we have the same up and down
> speed as at home. What do like is how strong the signal is on it that is
> outstanding.
> Mike
>
>
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 9:51 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
That is very true I do have one of the new Haswell MacBook Air that has
11.ac in it.
Mike
On 9/2/13, 8:06 AM, "Bob Cook" <cookrd1@discoveryowners.com > wrote:
> Unless you have an 11.ac device at both ends, you aren't going to see much
> if any improvement. The higher throughput on 11.ac only affects the 5 GHz
> band and is achieved with beamforming and channel bonding. The new
> 11.adstandard will implement beamforming on 2.4 GHz. Apple laptops
> are hindered
> when it comes to WIFI due to the unibody construction. Not much room for
> the wifi signal to "escape" through the Apple logo which also really limits
> antenna spacing and design. At least that is the case on mine. My
> solution is to just use a good quality external adapter.
>
> I would not recommend spending any money to upgrade to 11.ac. Wait for
> 11.ad which should be approved early next year.
>
> -Bob
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina) •
10.9 Mavericks
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11.ac in it.
Mike
On 9/2/13, 8:06 AM, "Bob Cook" <cookrd1@discoveryow
> Unless you have an 11.ac device at both ends, you aren't going to see much
> if any improvement. The higher throughput on 11.ac only affects the 5 GHz
> band and is achieved with beamforming and channel bonding. The new
> 11.adstandard will implement beamforming on 2.4 GHz. Apple laptops
> are hindered
> when it comes to WIFI due to the unibody construction. Not much room for
> the wifi signal to "escape" through the Apple logo which also really limits
> antenna spacing and design. At least that is the case on mine. My
> solution is to just use a good quality external adapter.
>
> I would not recommend spending any money to upgrade to 11.ac. Wait for
> 11.ad which should be approved early next year.
>
> -Bob
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina) •
10.9 Mavericks
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 6:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002
Hi Charles,
Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A good IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the lucky ones grandfathered in?
My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise it, I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to remain within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail addy.
If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
Thanks.
Jim
On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A good IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the lucky ones grandfathered in?
My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise it, I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to remain within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail addy.
If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
Thanks.
Jim
On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
Mon Sep 2, 2013 6:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll
Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not your
domain.
http://smarterware.org/3628/host-your-domain-email-at-gmail-without-forwarding
is a good a starting point as any.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
>
> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail
> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A good
> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have
> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
> lucky ones grandfathered in?
>
> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise it,
> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to remain
> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
>
> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail addy.
>
> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>
> > And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.comso
> > my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>
>
>
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domain.
http://smarterware.
is a good a starting point as any.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
> **
>
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
>
> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail
> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A good
> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have
> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
> lucky ones grandfathered in?
>
> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise it,
> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to remain
> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
>
> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail addy.
>
> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>
> > And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.comso
> > my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>
>
>
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 6:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002
Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @mcgarvie.us.
I'll check out the link. Thanks.
Jim
On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
> Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not your
> domain.
>
> http://smarterware.org/3628/host-your-domain-email-at-gmail-without-forwarding
> is a good a starting point as any.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
>>
>> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail
>> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A good
>> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have
>> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
>> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
>> lucky ones grandfathered in?
>>
>> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise it,
>> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to remain
>> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
>>
>> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail addy.
>>
>> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>>
>>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.comso
>>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
I'll check out the link. Thanks.
Jim
On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
> Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not your
> domain.
>
> http://smarterware.
> is a good a starting point as any.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
>>
>> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail
>> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A good
>> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have
>> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
>> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
>> lucky ones grandfathered in?
>>
>> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise it,
>> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to remain
>> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
>>
>> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail addy.
>>
>> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>>
>>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.comso
>>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Mon Sep 2, 2013 7:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim McGarvie" jgarv2002
Charles,
I checked out the link, and her article (and the two linked from that link) is four years old and I think the situation has changed. It appears the lowest price is $50/user/year, unless you know something I don't know.
Thanks.
Jim
On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
> Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @mcgarvie.us.
>
> I'll check out the link. Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>
> > Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not your
> > domain.
> >
> > http://smarterware.org/3628/host-your-domain-email-at-gmail-without-forwarding
> > is a good a starting point as any.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Charles,
> >>
> >> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
> >>
> >> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail
> >> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A good
> >> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have
> >> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
> >> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
> >> lucky ones grandfathered in?
> >>
> >> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise it,
> >> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to remain
> >> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
> >>
> >> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail addy.
> >>
> >> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.comso
> >>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I checked out the link, and her article (and the two linked from that link) is four years old and I think the situation has changed. It appears the lowest price is $50/user/year, unless you know something I don't know.
Thanks.
Jim
On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
> Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @mcgarvie.us.
>
> I'll check out the link. Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>
> > Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not your
> > domain.
> >
> > http://smarterware.
> > is a good a starting point as any.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Charles,
> >>
> >> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
> >>
> >> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail
> >> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A good
> >> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have
> >> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
> >> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
> >> lucky ones grandfathered in?
> >>
> >> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise it,
> >> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to remain
> >> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
> >>
> >> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail addy.
> >>
> >> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
> >>
> >>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.comso
> >>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://tech.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 7:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
Google no longer offers the free level of Google Apps. It's $5 per month or
$50 per year. If your needs are minimal you could look at Zoho which is
free for 3 users / 5gb each. I've not tried zoho mail but do like some of
their other services.
-Dane
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
> Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @
> mcgarvie.us.
>
> I'll check out the link. Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>
> > Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not
> your
> > domain.
> >
> >
> http://smarterware.org/3628/host-your-domain-email-at-gmail-without-forwarding
> > is a good a starting point as any.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Charles,
> >>
> >> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
> >>
> >> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail
> >> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A
> good
> >> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have
> >> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
> >> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
> >> lucky ones grandfathered in?
> >>
> >> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise
> it,
> >> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to
> remain
> >> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
> >>
> >> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail
> addy.
> >>
> >> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain
> @learnasp.comso
> >>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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$50 per year. If your needs are minimal you could look at Zoho which is
free for 3 users / 5gb each. I've not tried zoho mail but do like some of
their other services.
-Dane
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
> Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @
> mcgarvie.us.
>
> I'll check out the link. Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>
> > Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not
> your
> > domain.
> >
> >
> http://smarterware.
> > is a good a starting point as any.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Charles,
> >>
> >> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
> >>
> >> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac Mail
> >> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A
> good
> >> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I have
> >> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
> >> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
> >> lucky ones grandfathered in?
> >>
> >> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise
> it,
> >> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to
> remain
> >> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
> >>
> >> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail
> addy.
> >>
> >> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
> >>
> >>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain
> @learnasp.comso
> >>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------
> >
> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://tech.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mon Sep 2, 2013 7:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
FWIW - it seems I remember hearing that after the 30 day free trial of
google apps expired it would convert to a free account but I've never tried
that either.
-Dane
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Dane Reugger <dane@downtownpc.com > wrote:
> Google no longer offers the free level of Google Apps. It's $5 per month
> or $50 per year. If your needs are minimal you could look at Zoho which is
> free for 3 users / 5gb each. I've not tried zoho mail but do like some of
> their other services.
>
> -Dane
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
>
>> Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @
>> mcgarvie.us.
>>
>> I'll check out the link. Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>>
>> > Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not
>> your
>> > domain.
>> >
>> >
>> http://smarterware.org/3628/host-your-domain-email-at-gmail-without-forwarding
>> > is a good a starting point as any.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
>> >
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Charles,
>> >>
>> >> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
>> >>
>> >> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac
>> Mail
>> >> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A
>> good
>> >> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I
>> have
>> >> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
>> >> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
>> >> lucky ones grandfathered in?
>> >>
>> >> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise
>> it,
>> >> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to
>> remain
>> >> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
>> >>
>> >> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail
>> addy.
>> >>
>> >> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Jim
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain
>> @learnasp.comso
>> >>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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google apps expired it would convert to a free account but I've never tried
that either.
-Dane
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Dane Reugger <dane@downtownpc.
> Google no longer offers the free level of Google Apps. It's $5 per month
> or $50 per year. If your needs are minimal you could look at Zoho which is
> free for 3 users / 5gb each. I've not tried zoho mail but do like some of
> their other services.
>
> -Dane
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
>
>> Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @
>> mcgarvie.us.
>>
>> I'll check out the link. Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>>
>> > Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not
>> your
>> > domain.
>> >
>> >
>> http://smarterware.
>> > is a good a starting point as any.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
>> >
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Charles,
>> >>
>> >> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
>> >>
>> >> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac
>> >> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost. A
>> good
>> >> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I
>> have
>> >> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
>> >> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of the
>> >> lucky ones grandfathered in?
>> >>
>> >> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise
>> it,
>> >> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to
>> remain
>> >> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
>> >>
>> >> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail
>> addy.
>> >>
>> >> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Jim
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>> >>
>> >>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain
>> @learnasp.comso
>> >>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 8:01 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
OK I googled it and letting a trial account expire does not seem to work
but if you only need one account this still works.
http://www.techwalls.com/register-free-google-apps-standard-account-single-user/
-Dane
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Dane Reugger <dane@downtownpc.com > wrote:
> FWIW - it seems I remember hearing that after the 30 day free trial of
> google apps expired it would convert to a free account but I've never tried
> that either.
>
> -Dane
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Dane Reugger <dane@downtownpc.com > wrote:
>
>> Google no longer offers the free level of Google Apps. It's $5 per month
>> or $50 per year. If your needs are minimal you could look at Zoho which is
>> free for 3 users / 5gb each. I've not tried zoho mail but do like some of
>> their other services.
>>
>> -Dane
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
>>
>>> Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @
>>> mcgarvie.us.
>>>
>>> I'll check out the link. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>>>
>>> > Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not
>>> your
>>> > domain.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://smarterware.org/3628/host-your-domain-email-at-gmail-without-forwarding
>>> > is a good a starting point as any.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> **
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Charles,
>>> >>
>>> >> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
>>> >>
>>> >> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac
>>> Mail
>>> >> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost.
>>> A good
>>> >> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I
>>> have
>>> >> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
>>> >> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of
>>> the
>>> >> lucky ones grandfathered in?
>>> >>
>>> >> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise
>>> it,
>>> >> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to
>>> remain
>>> >> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
>>> >>
>>> >> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail
>>> addy.
>>> >>
>>> >> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jim
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain
>>> @learnasp.comso
>>> >>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> >
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>>> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
>>> >
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but if you only need one account this still works.
http://www.techwall
-Dane
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Dane Reugger <dane@downtownpc.
> FWIW - it seems I remember hearing that after the 30 day free trial of
> google apps expired it would convert to a free account but I've never tried
> that either.
>
> -Dane
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Dane Reugger <dane@downtownpc.
>
>> Google no longer offers the free level of Google Apps. It's $5 per month
>> or $50 per year. If your needs are minimal you could look at Zoho which is
>> free for 3 users / 5gb each. I've not tried zoho mail but do like some of
>> their other services.
>>
>> -Dane
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
>>
>>> Actually I have my own domain, as reflected by my email address: @
>>> mcgarvie.us.
>>>
>>> I'll check out the link. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>>>
>>> > Well you will need to buy your own domain since @EarthLink.com is not
>>> your
>>> > domain.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://smarterware.
>>> > is a good a starting point as any.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jim McGarvie <jim@mcgarvie.
>>> >
>>> >> **
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Charles,
>>> >>
>>> >> Since I've hijacked this thread I have changed the subject.
>>> >>
>>> >> I am interested in the ability to sync my email folders between Mac
>>> >> on my MBP and my iDevices, ala Exchange Server but without the cost.
>>> A good
>>> >> IMAP email service like Gmail would do what I want, I'm sure. But I
>>> have
>>> >> googled Gmail and domains and it appears it is now difficult if not
>>> >> impossible to get a free account with my own domain. Are you one of
>>> the
>>> >> lucky ones grandfathered in?
>>> >>
>>> >> My domain host is Earthlink and although they don't seem to advertise
>>> it,
>>> >> I am using IMAP with them. But I am continually deleting messages to
>>> remain
>>> >> within their 1 GB limit, and they are not very user-friendly.
>>> >>
>>> >> I want messages from me to come from my domain address, not a Gmail
>>> addy.
>>> >>
>>> >> If Gmail can do what I want can you point me in the right direction?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jim
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>>> >>
>>> >>> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain
>>> @learnasp.comso
>>> >>> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 8:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"James Robertson" jamesrob328i
On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
> For all those suggesting "training"
> Gmail that works well.
>
> For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
> SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I get
> 500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
>
> I just mention it before people start spending money and time on something
> where a FREE and no time option exists.
>
>
> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
But, another currently active thread about gmail indicates that you're probably grandfathered, and that getting gmail to manage your IMAP spam filtering using anything other than a gmail email address will cost $50 per year. Is it your understanding that it's still free?
I read glowing reviews about spamsieve (but it does require at least some training).
Just in the 24 hours since I started marking some of the incoming messages that are obvious spam but not caught by my isp as "Junk" using Mail.app, the program seems to have improved a BIT at catching them.
--
Jim Robertson
__o
_-\<,
(*)/ (*)
````````````
My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
Mon Sep 2, 2013 10:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
On Sep 2, 2013, at 03:57 , Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
> For all those suggesting "training"; that is very time consuming compared to
> Gmail that works well.
>
> For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
> SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I get
> 500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
>
> I just mention it before people start spending money and time on something
> where a FREE and no time option exists.
>
> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
I run my business domain e-mail via Google Apps for Business and am very satisfied with it, although it does filter some legitimate messages to the spam folder.
For my personal e-mail, including lists such as this one, I use Earthlink, which also does a good job of spam filtering. There too, some legitimate messages are flagged as spam. (Gmail seems to be somewhat more accurate though.)
David
> For all those suggesting "training"
> Gmail that works well.
>
> For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
> SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I get
> 500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
>
> I just mention it before people start spending money and time on something
> where a FREE and no time option exists.
>
> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
I run my business domain e-mail via Google Apps for Business and am very satisfied with it, although it does filter some legitimate messages to the spam folder.
For my personal e-mail, including lists such as this one, I use Earthlink, which also does a good job of spam filtering. There too, some legitimate messages are flagged as spam. (Gmail seems to be somewhat more accurate though.)
David
Mon Sep 2, 2013 11:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll
Yes as I did not know till this thread it apparently it is no longer free.
Since I got it years ago when it was free I was grandfathered into it being
perpetually free.
On Sep 2, 2013 11:23 AM, "James Robertson" <jamesrob@sonic.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com > wrote:
>
> > For all those suggesting "training"; that is very time consuming compared
> to
> > Gmail that works well.
> >
> > For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
> > SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I
> get
> > 500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
> >
> > I just mention it before people start spending money and time on
> something
> > where a FREE and no time option exists.
> >
> >
> > And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.comso
> > my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>
> But, another currently active thread about gmail indicates that you're
> probably grandfathered, and that getting gmail to manage your IMAP spam
> filtering using anything other than a gmail email address will cost $50 per
> year. Is it your understanding that it's still free?
>
> I read glowing reviews about spamsieve (but it does require at least some
> training).
>
> Just in the 24 hours since I started marking some of the incoming messages
> that are obvious spam but not caught by my isp as "Junk" using Mail.app,
> the program seems to have improved a BIT at catching them.
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,_
> (*)/ (*)
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
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Since I got it years ago when it was free I was grandfathered into it being
perpetually free.
On Sep 2, 2013 11:23 AM, "James Robertson" <jamesrob@sonic.
> **
>
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.
>
> > For all those suggesting "training"
> to
> > Gmail that works well.
> >
> > For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
> > SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I
> get
> > 500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
> >
> > I just mention it before people start spending money and time on
> something
> > where a FREE and no time option exists.
> >
> >
> > And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.comso
> > my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>
> But, another currently active thread about gmail indicates that you're
> probably grandfathered, and that getting gmail to manage your IMAP spam
> filtering using anything other than a gmail email address will cost $50 per
> year. Is it your understanding that it's still free?
>
> I read glowing reviews about spamsieve (but it does require at least some
> training).
>
> Just in the 24 hours since I started marking some of the incoming messages
> that are obvious spam but not caught by my isp as "Junk" using Mail.app,
> the program seems to have improved a BIT at catching them.
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,
> (*)/ (*)
> ````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 12:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
And I avoid gmail, because I don't think my ISP needs to review my email. I'm not talking about Prism.
You aren't willing to turn on the filters, but you are willing to allow others to read your email. If you had turned it on long ago, the filters would have learned and we would not be having this discussion.
Brent
- You know what Ben Franklin said about liberties and security.
On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll wrote:
For all those suggesting "training"; that is very time consuming compared to
Gmail that works well.
For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I get
500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
I just mention it before people start spending money and time on something
where a FREE and no time option exists.
And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Charles Lenington <macsonly@brightok.net >wrote:
> **
>
>
> On 9/1/13 11:38 AM, James Robertson wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Jim Hamm <machamm@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>> Here<
> http://www.maclife.com/article/columns/maclife_101_how_filter_spam_apple_mail
>>
>>> is
>>> an articles to read that should help....Jim
>>
>> Thanks for the link! I should have mentioned in my original post that I
> DO have Apple's "Junk Mail Filter" turned on using mostly the default
> configuration; actually, I'm one level up from the defaults: if Mail.app
> catches something, I have it divert the message to the Junk folder, but
> there's still a steady stream (I'd guess more than 20 messages per day) of
> this stuff that reaches my inbox NOT caught either by my ISP or by the
> Mail.app Junk filter.
>>
>> Basically, your suggestion boils down to "spend some time TRAINING
> Mail.app's junk filter. If that works, I'll be a happy camper. However, so
> far as I know, the results of that training are not available to me; i.e.,
> even if doing this keeps my inbox more clean, I won't know what is telling
> the Mail.app junk filter to divert the spam (my ISP's "spamassassin" adds a
> few lines to the mail header that report how it compiles its score.
>>
>> I get enough of this crap that it shouldn't take long to figure out
> whether alerting Mail.app message by message helps.
>>
>> My sense is that the stuff must be pretty carefully crafted in order to
> avoid triggering server-side recognition my my ISP's "spamassassin"
> program. I'm reading about spamsieve now, to get a sense whether that might
> be a useful "escalation of force" tool.
>>
>>
>
> My isp uses Powered by Proofpoint Protection Server
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proofpoint,_Inc.
>
> It still misses some. I even train FF and it misses the misses. I think
> the spammers change daily.
>
>
>
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You aren't willing to turn on the filters, but you are willing to allow others to read your email. If you had turned it on long ago, the filters would have learned and we would not be having this discussion.
Brent
- You know what Ben Franklin said about liberties and security.
On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll wrote:
For all those suggesting "training"
Gmail that works well.
For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I get
500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
I just mention it before people start spending money and time on something
where a FREE and no time option exists.
And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Charles Lenington <macsonly@brightok.
> **
>
>
> On 9/1/13 11:38 AM, James Robertson wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Jim Hamm <machamm@gmail.
>>
>>> Here<
> http://www.maclife.
>>
>>> is
>>> an articles to read that should help....Jim
>>
>> Thanks for the link! I should have mentioned in my original post that I
> DO have Apple's "Junk Mail Filter" turned on using mostly the default
> configuration; actually, I'm one level up from the defaults: if Mail.app
> catches something, I have it divert the message to the Junk folder, but
> there's still a steady stream (I'd guess more than 20 messages per day) of
> this stuff that reaches my inbox NOT caught either by my ISP or by the
> Mail.app Junk filter.
>>
>> Basically, your suggestion boils down to "spend some time TRAINING
> Mail.app'
> far as I know, the results of that training are not available to me; i.e.,
> even if doing this keeps my inbox more clean, I won't know what is telling
> the Mail.app junk filter to divert the spam (my ISP's "spamassassin&
> few lines to the mail header that report how it compiles its score.
>>
>> I get enough of this crap that it shouldn'
> whether alerting Mail.app message by message helps.
>>
>> My sense is that the stuff must be pretty carefully crafted in order to
> avoid triggering server-side recognition my my ISP's "spamassassin&
> program. I'm reading about spamsieve now, to get a sense whether that might
> be a useful "escalation of force" tool.
>>
>>
>
> My isp uses Powered by Proofpoint Protection Server
>
>> http://en.wikipedia
>
> It still misses some. I even train FF and it misses the misses. I think
> the spammers change daily.
>
>
>
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 12:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll
I used "training"; software over the years and several different
server/client tools for email. I was unimpressed by the work involved that
still resulted in false positives that meant I had to inspect my SPAM for
legit mail which defeats the point since my email address I have had since
1996 gets such a high volume.
Yes I am aware that GMail software "reads" email to decide what ads to
serve. I don't have a problem with that but understand why many people do.
I like reliable email and a quality search. Since I keep a lot of email for
reference I have been very unimpressed by the speed and lack of accuracy on
searches for the mail clients I used. I also encountered corruption a LOT
on mail clients which has not happened on Gmail, So I accept this trade off
and do so knowingly.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:29 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
> And I avoid gmail, because I don't think my ISP needs to review my email.
> I'm not talking about Prism.
>
> You aren't willing to turn on the filters, but you are willing to allow
> others to read your email. If you had turned it on long ago, the filters
> would have learned and we would not be having this discussion.
>
> Brent
> - You know what Ben Franklin said about liberties and security.
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll wrote:
>
> For all those suggesting "training"; that is very time consuming compared to
> Gmail that works well.
>
> For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
> SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I get
> 500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
>
> I just mention it before people start spending money and time on something
> where a FREE and no time option exists.
>
> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Charles Lenington <macsonly@brightok.net
> >wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > On 9/1/13 11:38 AM, James Robertson wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Jim Hamm <machamm@gmail.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Here<
> >
> http://www.maclife.com/article/columns/maclife_101_how_filter_spam_apple_mail
> >>
> >>> is
> >>> an articles to read that should help....Jim
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link! I should have mentioned in my original post that I
> > DO have Apple's "Junk Mail Filter" turned on using mostly the default
> > configuration; actually, I'm one level up from the defaults: if Mail.app
> > catches something, I have it divert the message to the Junk folder, but
> > there's still a steady stream (I'd guess more than 20 messages per day)
> of
> > this stuff that reaches my inbox NOT caught either by my ISP or by the
> > Mail.app Junk filter.
> >>
> >> Basically, your suggestion boils down to "spend some time TRAINING
> > Mail.app's junk filter. If that works, I'll be a happy camper. However,
> so
> > far as I know, the results of that training are not available to me;
> i.e.,
> > even if doing this keeps my inbox more clean, I won't know what is
> telling
> > the Mail.app junk filter to divert the spam (my ISP's "spamassassin"
> adds a
> > few lines to the mail header that report how it compiles its score.
> >>
> >> I get enough of this crap that it shouldn't take long to figure out
> > whether alerting Mail.app message by message helps.
> >>
> >> My sense is that the stuff must be pretty carefully crafted in order to
> > avoid triggering server-side recognition my my ISP's "spamassassin"
> > program. I'm reading about spamsieve now, to get a sense whether that
> might
> > be a useful "escalation of force" tool.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > My isp uses Powered by Proofpoint Protection Server
> >
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proofpoint,_Inc.
> >
> > It still misses some. I even train FF and it misses the misses. I think
> > the spammers change daily.
> >
> >
> >
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server/client tools for email. I was unimpressed by the work involved that
still resulted in false positives that meant I had to inspect my SPAM for
legit mail which defeats the point since my email address I have had since
1996 gets such a high volume.
Yes I am aware that GMail software "reads" email to decide what ads to
serve. I don't have a problem with that but understand why many people do.
I like reliable email and a quality search. Since I keep a lot of email for
reference I have been very unimpressed by the speed and lack of accuracy on
searches for the mail clients I used. I also encountered corruption a LOT
on mail clients which has not happened on Gmail, So I accept this trade off
and do so knowingly.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:29 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
> **
>
>
> And I avoid gmail, because I don't think my ISP needs to review my email.
> I'm not talking about Prism.
>
> You aren't willing to turn on the filters, but you are willing to allow
> others to read your email. If you had turned it on long ago, the filters
> would have learned and we would not be having this discussion.
>
> Brent
> - You know what Ben Franklin said about liberties and security.
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Charles Carroll wrote:
>
> For all those suggesting "training"
> Gmail that works well.
>
> For 5+ years it seems to catch every SPAM that comes to me and place in
> SPAM without sticking my good stuff in SPAM even on the groups where I get
> 500-1000 pieces of mail a day from - I am on many groups.
>
> I just mention it before people start spending money and time on something
> where a FREE and no time option exists.
>
> And it does support domain mail -- i.e. I own the domain @learnasp.com so
> my mail from there is managed by gmail even without a gmail address.
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Charles Lenington <macsonly@brightok.
> >wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > On 9/1/13 11:38 AM, James Robertson wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Jim Hamm <machamm@gmail.
> >>
> >>> Here<
> >
> http://www.maclife.
> >>
> >>> is
> >>> an articles to read that should help....Jim
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link! I should have mentioned in my original post that I
> > DO have Apple's "Junk Mail Filter" turned on using mostly the default
> > configuration; actually, I'm one level up from the defaults: if Mail.app
> > catches something, I have it divert the message to the Junk folder, but
> > there's still a steady stream (I'd guess more than 20 messages per day)
> of
> > this stuff that reaches my inbox NOT caught either by my ISP or by the
> > Mail.app Junk filter.
> >>
> >> Basically, your suggestion boils down to "spend some time TRAINING
> > Mail.app'
> so
> > far as I know, the results of that training are not available to me;
> i.e.,
> > even if doing this keeps my inbox more clean, I won't know what is
> telling
> > the Mail.app junk filter to divert the spam (my ISP's "spamassassin&
> adds a
> > few lines to the mail header that report how it compiles its score.
> >>
> >> I get enough of this crap that it shouldn'
> > whether alerting Mail.app message by message helps.
> >>
> >> My sense is that the stuff must be pretty carefully crafted in order to
> > avoid triggering server-side recognition my my ISP's "spamassassin&
> > program. I'm reading about spamsieve now, to get a sense whether that
> might
> > be a useful "escalation of force" tool.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > My isp uses Powered by Proofpoint Protection Server
> >
> >> http://en.wikipedia
> >
> > It still misses some. I even train FF and it misses the misses. I think
> > the spammers change daily.
> >
> >
> >
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Mon Sep 2, 2013 8:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barbara Adamski" bkadamski
Yup. That's an awesome thing to know. Thanks, HAL9000!
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> On 2 September 2013 12:25, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@comcast.net > wrote:
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>> I think he is talking about the program "Image Capture" which should be in
>> your applications folder.
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On 2013-09-02, at 4:41 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@
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>
> On 2 September 2013 12:25, Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@comcast.
>
>> I think he is talking about the program "Image Capture" which should be in
>> your applications folder.
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