3/24/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8806

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: I don't think I'm getting all of my emails From: Patsy Price
1b.
Re: I don't think I'm getting all of my emails From: Tod Hopkins
2a.
Re: MacBook won't boot From: Tod Hopkins
2b.
Re: MacBook won't boot From: Tod Hopkins
2c.
Re: MacBook won't boot From: Tod Hopkins
3a.
Re: Bookmarkdav_client? From: Wayne & Janet Brunner
4a.
Uninstaller From: BLAINE F GORDON
4b.
Re: Uninstaller From: Barry Austern
4c.
Re: Uninstaller From: BLAINE F GORDON
4d.
Re: Uninstaller From: Earle Jones
4e.
Re: Uninstaller From: BLAINE F GORDON
4f.
Re: Uninstaller From: Harry Flaxman
4g.
Re: Uninstaller From: Earle Jones
4h.
Re: Uninstaller From: Jim Saklad
4i.
Re: Uninstaller From: Earle Jones
4j.
Re: Uninstaller From: Barry Austern
4k.
Re: Uninstaller From: Earle Jones
4l.
Re: Uninstaller From: Bill Boy
4m.
Re: Uninstaller From: BLAINE F GORDON
4n.
Re: Uninstaller From: BLAINE F GORDON
4o.
Re: Uninstaller From: Jim Saklad
5.
Quickoffice Pro HD From: trevianace
6a.
Re: Apple TV From: Bob Cook
7a.
TechTool Protection Can Eat Up Time Machine Disk Space From: Jon Kreisler
7b.
Re: TechTool Protection Can Eat Up Time Machine Disk Space From: Jim Saklad

Messages

1a.

Re: I don't think I'm getting all of my emails

Posted by: "Patsy Price" beyondwords@shaw.ca   beyondwords2

Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:03 pm (PDT)



Does your ISP have a webmail interface? If it's Earthlink, it
apparently does. Go in there and see if any messages are languishing
in mailboxes there.

Patsy

1b.

Re: I don't think I'm getting all of my emails

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:44 pm (PDT)



You have good responses. Check all presumptions. Do you have more than one email account? Did you change providers? Does the provider have a web interface and have you checked it? Is there an "!" showing next to the "Inbox" in Apple Mail? Is there another machine checking your account?

Are you seeing our responses on this list? 8-O

Cheers,
tod

On Mar 24, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Louise Stewart wrote:

> About 3 wks ago I switched to a Mini from my G4 and use the Mail email program that comes with OS 10. I've used it for quite a while. I have the monitor, keyboard and mouse connected with a KVM switch until I get all the new software I need for the Mini. But I can't see that that would impact my problem.
>
> I've noticed recently that I seem to be getting far fewer emails than I normally do. I usually get over 300 a day and I'd guess now it's more like 100 or so. For example, between when I left the computer last night and this morning around 10, I only had 11 emails. I'd guess my usual number for that time would be at least 50.
>
> Also, I've recently emailed 3 people for some specific info I need and none of them have replied. I re-sent one of the emails and still no reply. In the past, I'd have heard back from them by now with nearly 100% certainty.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas what I can do to track down the problem? I just can't see that suddenly the numbers of emails would decrease that drastically for no apparently reason. Lots of my normal emails are from various groups I'm on. I haven't noticed that simply none of the groups' emails aren't coming through.
>
> Louise
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2a.

Re: MacBook won't boot

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:39 pm (PDT)



Do not use MacDrive to do ANYTHING to a Mac system disc!!! That is a warning for anyone even contemplating such a move. Seriously. Just don't. Find another Mac.

You don't want "repair permissions" but "Repair Disk." If you can boot from the Install disk, the hardware is fine. If you run Disk Utility from the install disk and run "Repair Disk" and this completes successfully, then the drive is not your problem. If it cannot repair, Disk Utility will tell you and you need Disk Warrior. This is pretty much the only utility that will repair a drive that Disk Utility cannot.

So, then it's software. Do a "verbose" boot. I believe you hold down the "v" key but you can check this. This will show you all the boot messages normally hidden behind the Apple logo, and will give you a better idea about what is hanging.

If you really can't boot in Safe Mode (make sure you are doing this correctly) then you must decide if need to do data recovery or simply reformat and reinstall. If you need to work on an unbootable system drive, you must either remove the drive or connect to another Mac in "target" mode.

Cheers,
tod

On Mar 23, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Ardell Faul wrote:

> Since I'm not getting any help here, I am wondering if there is a group
> I could join that is more technical oriented toward repairing broken
> systems, or perhaps has members more willing to share their knowledge.
>
> For the further information of anyone interested, I have also booted up
> with the OSX installation disk and used the Disk Utilities to repair
> permissions, as well as running the repair function on the drive
> itself. It found permission problems and fixed them, but the unit still
> hangs at the apple logo. I have also replaced the memory sticks with
> known good ones just in case a stick had developed problems, but nothing
> changes.
>
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> ardell@icehouse.net
> 509-891-5188
>
> On 3/23/2012 1:16 PM, Ardell Faul wrote:
> >
> > Model number is A1181. The apple logo appears with the rotating clock,
> > but it never gets any further. I pulled the hard drive and ran the
> > error fixing utility on it in another computer using Macdrive, which
> > said there were errors and it fixed them all, but it still will not boot.
> >
> > I have cleared the Pram and tried booting up in the Safe Mode, but
> > holding down the Shift key will not bring up the proper screen.
> >
> > Is there another technique I can use to get this unit booted up please?
> >
> > Ardell Faul
> > Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> > Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> > 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> > Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> > ardell@icehouse.net <mailto:ardell%40icehouse.net>
> > 509-891-5188
> >
> > ~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~ end group email -->
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2b.

Re: MacBook won't boot

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:40 pm (PDT)



BTW, you hijacked another thread which may be why some people were slow to respond.

Cheers,
tod

On Mar 23, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Ardell Faul wrote:

> Model number is A1181. The apple logo appears with the rotating clock,
> but it never gets any further. I pulled the hard drive and ran the
> error fixing utility on it in another computer using Macdrive, which
> said there were errors and it fixed them all, but it still will not boot.
>
> I have cleared the Pram and tried booting up in the Safe Mode, but
> holding down the Shift key will not bring up the proper screen.
>
> Is there another technique I can use to get this unit booted up please?
>
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> ardell@icehouse.net
> 509-891-5188
>
> ~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~ end group email -->
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2c.

Re: MacBook won't boot

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:46 pm (PDT)



Oh, and while this list is not perfect, it is the best! If you really want to be ignored, try Apple discussion groups.

Cheers,
tod

On Mar 23, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Ardell Faul wrote:

> Model number is A1181. The apple logo appears with the rotating clock,
> but it never gets any further. I pulled the hard drive and ran the
> error fixing utility on it in another computer using Macdrive, which
> said there were errors and it fixed them all, but it still will not boot.
>
> I have cleared the Pram and tried booting up in the Safe Mode, but
> holding down the Shift key will not bring up the proper screen.
>
> Is there another technique I can use to get this unit booted up please?
>
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> ardell@icehouse.net
> 509-891-5188
>
> ~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~ end group email -->
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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3a.

Re: Bookmarkdav_client?

Posted by: "Wayne & Janet Brunner" wajabrun@nelson-tel.net   janetsbrunner

Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:53 pm (PDT)



> What is this bookmarkdav_client, and why is it using all my memory to
> the point of not being able to run any programs? Is there anything I
> can do?


Ok, so you know that bookmarkdav_client is the part of the iCloud Control
Panel for Windows that syncs your IE or Firefox Bookmarks with your
iCloud-enabled iDevices.

I have no clue as to why it is using so much memory, but since bookmarks
don't change that often, why not turn it off most of the time and just turn
it on every so often?

Yes, it is Apple software, but the problem is how the Windows OS is
operating or how the Control Panel is affecting the Window OS's operation.

One of the other cross platform members of this list might be able to give
you a better solution, but this is really a Windows, not Mac, issue.

the other Brent

Thank you Brent,
I figured it was a Windows issue, which is why I HATE windows so much!
Anyone know where I can pick up a inexpensive Macbook?
Janet

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4a.

Uninstaller

Posted by: "BLAINE F GORDON" pepsi440@me.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:54 pm (PDT)



Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
Thanks,
Blaine

Sent from my iPad

4b.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:06 pm (PDT)



At 12:54 PM -0700 3/24/12, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:

>
>
>Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that
>gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money
>for a good one.
>Thanks,
>Blaine

Apps that need to be uninstalled generally come with an uninstaller.
Micro$oft Office, for example, that gives you a limited number of
installations, is a good example. In most cases, though, why not just
drag the application to the trash? Even if it has other, now orphaned
pieces elsewhere, are they large enough to worry about? Back when
100megs was a large hard drive you might be concerned, or even 100
gigs, but now that hard drives are so huge, is it really worth
worrying about?
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

4c.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "BLAINE F GORDON" pepsi440@me.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:12 pm (PDT)



Good point Barry.
Blaine

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 24, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

> At 12:54 PM -0700 3/24/12, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that
> >gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money
> >for a good one.
> >Thanks,
> >Blaine
>
> Apps that need to be uninstalled generally come with an uninstaller.
> Micro$oft Office, for example, that gives you a limited number of
> installations, is a good example. In most cases, though, why not just
> drag the application to the trash? Even if it has other, now orphaned
> pieces elsewhere, are they large enough to worry about? Back when
> 100megs was a large hard drive you might be concerned, or even 100
> gigs, but now that hard drives are so huge, is it really worth
> worrying about?
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net
>
>

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4d.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:18 pm (PDT)




On Mar 24, 12, at 12:54 PM, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
> Thanks,
> Blaine

*
Blaine: Greetings!

There are several uninstallers. I have used "AppZapper", which seems to be able to dig out all of the bits and pieces of an application:

http://www.appzapper.com/

I think it is $9.95, or maybe $12.95. It is very reliable—never causes a problem.

earle
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_______________________
Earle Jones 
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@comcast.net

4e.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "BLAINE F GORDON" pepsi440@me.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:21 pm (PDT)



Thank you Earle.. It is worth considering.

Blaine

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 24, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Mar 24, 12, at 12:54 PM, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
> > Thanks,
> > Blaine
>
> *
> Blaine: Greetings!
>
> There are several uninstallers. I have used "AppZapper", which seems to be able to dig out all of the bits and pieces of an application:
>
> http://www.appzapper.com/
>
> I think it is $9.95, or maybe $12.95. It is very reliable—never causes a problem.
>
> earle
> *
> _______________________
> Earle Jones 
> 501 Portola Road #8008
> Portola Valley CA 94028
> Home: 650-424-4362
> Cell: 650-269-0035
> earle.jones@comcast.net
>
>

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4f.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:23 pm (PDT)



On 3/24/2012 3:54 PM, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
> Thanks,
> Blaine
>

Usually, if an app needs an installer, it comes with an uninstaller, or,
running the installer again will offer the option to uninstall.

Otherwise, dragging it to the trash does it.

I do use AppTrap, which is a freebie, to get some of the small files
left behind. As a rule, anything that might be left behind is of no
consequence either in size or security risk.

Harry

4g.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:24 pm (PDT)




On Mar 24, 12, at 1:21 PM, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:

> Thank you Earle.. It is worth considering.
>
> Blaine

*
Blaine:

In addition to "AppZapper" working reliably, it also give out a very satisfying "ZZAPP!!" sound when it zaps.

earle
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_______________________
Earle Jones 
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@comcast.net

4h.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:27 pm (PDT)



>> Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
>> Blaine
>
> Apps that need to be uninstalled generally come with an uninstaller. Micro$oft Office, for example, that gives you a limited number of installations, is a good example. In most cases, though, why not just drag the application to the trash? Even if it has other, now orphaned pieces elsewhere, are they large enough to worry about? Back when 100megs was a large hard drive you might be concerned, or even 100 gigs, but now that hard drives are so huge, is it really worth worrying about?
> Barry Austern

Further, an App like EasyFind (freeware) will find everything on a drive.
<http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>

Say you want to remove an app named Phred, by technobabble technologies.

First you drag the app itself to the trash.
Then run EasyFind and search for phred.
It will find, for example com.phred.plist
You delete any of those files.
You can also search for technobabble, and EasyFind will find those files also.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

4i.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:13 pm (PDT)




On Mar 24, 12, at 1:22 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On 3/24/2012 3:54 PM, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
> > Thanks,
> > Blaine
> >
>
> Usually, if an app needs an installer, it comes with an uninstaller, or,
> running the installer again will offer the option to uninstall.
>
> Otherwise, dragging it to the trash does it.
>
> I do use AppTrap, which is a freebie, to get some of the small files
> left behind. As a rule, anything that might be left behind is of no
> consequence either in size or security risk.
>
> Harry

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Except: If you want to re-install a later version of the uninstalled app, the leftover bits and pieces can screw things up.

earle
*

_______________________
Earle Jones 
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@comcast.net

4j.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:16 pm (PDT)



At 4:27 PM -0400 3/24/12, Jim Saklad wrote:

>
>Further, an App like EasyFind (freeware) will find everything on a drive.
><<http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>
>
>Say you want to remove an app named Phred, by technobabble technologies.
>
>First you drag the app itself to the trash.
>Then run EasyFind and search for phred.
>It will find, for example com.phred.plist
>You delete any of those files.
>You can also search for technobabble, and EasyFind will find those files also.
>

I'm not so sure I'd want to do that without additional knowledge. For
one thing, support files for an application might not have the name
of the application. AppleWorks, which used to be ClarisWorks, for
example, has support files with the Claris name. Would you find them
with your method? Furthermore, sometimes a manufacturer will use one
file for several applications. Micro$oft Office consists of Word,
PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook, and maybe one or two others. Let's say
you want to remove Outlook because you use some other mail program.
Might it not share support files with the others in the Office
package?
I reiterate my statement from a few hours ago. Unless it is something
that you have to uninstall, which includes an uninstall program, then
you are probably best off not worrying about a few megabytes or so of
detritus. I presume you are not running from 800k floppies, are you?
Note, there are several ways to uninstall. A program might put the
uninstaller on your hard drive along with the program itself. Maybe
it is on the original install disc. Or, sometimes, run the install
program again invoking an uninstall option, possibly holding down the
option key. In other words RTFM (read the fine manual.)
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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4k.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:21 pm (PDT)




On Mar 24, 12, at 1:27 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> >> Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
> >> Blaine
> >
> > Apps that need to be uninstalled generally come with an uninstaller. Micro$oft Office, for example, that gives you a limited number of installations, is a good example. In most cases, though, why not just drag the application to the trash? Even if it has other, now orphaned pieces elsewhere, are they large enough to worry about? Back when 100megs was a large hard drive you might be concerned, or even 100 gigs, but now that hard drives are so huge, is it really worth worrying about?
> > Barry Austern
>
> Further, an App like EasyFind (freeware) will find everything on a drive.
> <http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>

*
Thanks! I'll try "EasyFind".

I note that "SpotLight" works very well -- the search kernel appears to be well designed and reliable. But the SpotLight front-end is miserable. I have been using "NotLight", which is the SpotLight engine with a better designed front-end.

It's free from MacUpdate at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/20543/notlight

earle
*
_______________________
Earle Jones 
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@comcast.net

4l.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Bill Boy" billboy@refindedvideo.com   billmboy

Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:23 pm (PDT)



AppDelete work well and is on sale at http://www.maczot.com for $4.99

I also use AppZapper

They Get those little hidden files

Bill

On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:54 PM, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
> Thanks,
> Blaine.
>
>
>

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Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "BLAINE F GORDON" pepsi440@me.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:35 pm (PDT)



Thanks to everyone who responded to my query. I have gone with AppZapper which seemed the best bargain for what you get. I needed to uninstall NeoOffice because I downloaded Libreoffice and like it better. I saw no use for two office suites. I usually don't get rid of apps but NeoOffice comes with all those patches and I want everything removed.

Thanks for all input,
Blaine

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Bill Boy <billboy@refindedvideo.com> wrote:

> AppDelete work well and is on sale at http://www.maczot.com for $4.99
>
> I also use AppZapper
>
> They Get those little hidden files
>
> Bill
>
> On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:54 PM, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
> > Thanks,
> > Blaine.
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "BLAINE F GORDON" pepsi440@me.com   blainegordon@ymail.com

Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:10 pm (PDT)



App zap is $4.99 from the app store and I assumed this was Apple's version of App zapper. I did some looking around my files and it seems to have done a good job. I have a program ( forgot it's name) that searches for hidden files and it only found my .dmg down loaders. It looks like a squirrel with a magnifying glass. So I guess App Zap does a good job.

Blaine

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:35 PM, BLAINE F GORDON <pepsi440@me.com> wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who responded to my query. I have gone with AppZapper which seemed the best bargain for what you get. I needed to uninstall NeoOffice because I downloaded Libreoffice and like it better. I saw no use for two office suites. I usually don't get rid of apps but NeoOffice comes with all those patches and I want everything removed.
>
> Thanks for all input,
> Blaine
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Bill Boy <billboy@refindedvideo.com> wrote:
>
> > AppDelete work well and is on sale at http://www.maczot.com for $4.99
> >
> > I also use AppZapper
> >
> > They Get those little hidden file
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:54 PM, BLAINE F GORDON wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know of a good uninstalled for apps. I want one that gets all the junk off the system. I don't mind paying a little money for a good one.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Blaine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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4o.

Re: Uninstaller

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:47 pm (PDT)



>> Further, an App like EasyFind (freeware) will find everything on a drive.
>> <<http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html>
>>
>> Say you want to remove an app named Phred, by technobabble technologies.
>>
>> First you drag the app itself to the trash.
>> Then run EasyFind and search for phred.
>> It will find, for example com.phred.plist
>> You delete any of those files.
>> You can also search for technobabble, and EasyFind will find those files also.
>
> I'm not so sure I'd want to do that without additional knowledge. For one thing, support files for an application might not have the name of the application. AppleWorks, which used to be ClarisWorks, for example, has support files with the Claris name. Would you find them with your method?

Yes, because I know to look for them.
Do you know an application that would look for them automatically?

> Furthermore, sometimes a manufacturer will use one file for several applications. Micro$oft Office consists of Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook, and maybe one or two others. Let's say you want to remove Outlook because you use some other mail program. Might it not share support files with the others in the Office package?

Yes, and that is an additional reason to not bother removing all the accessory files.

> I reiterate my statement from a few hours ago. Unless it is something that you have to uninstall, which includes an uninstall program, then you are probably best off not worrying about a few megabytes or so of detritus.

Usually, true.

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5.

Quickoffice Pro HD

Posted by: "trevianace" josephkish@mac.com   trevianace

Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:15 pm (PDT)



Has anyone used this app? Thoughts good or bad? Thanks.

Joe

6a.

Re: Apple TV

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:30 pm (PDT)



On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com> wrote:
> On a related note, at $99 there really is no reason NOT to buy an Apple TV

I guess that all depends on what you want to do. Roku is a lot less
expensive and supports a lot more content than Apple TV. Obviously,
there are advantages to "all Apple", but for some people, content is
something to be considered.

Bob

7a.

TechTool Protection Can Eat Up Time Machine Disk Space

Posted by: "Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler@gmail.com   jonkreisler

Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:39 pm (PDT)



I found this out the hard way.
If you are running TechTool Protection Directory Backup, then you should
exclude the folder '/Library/Application Support/TechTool Protection' in
Time Machine preferences.
Every time Directory Backup runs, new data is added to this folder. It is a
wonderful recovery tool, but, since it is updated so often, Time Machine
will create a new backup copy whenever it runs after a Directory Backup, if
you don't exclude it. This can overrun the disk space used by Time Machine.
It happened to me in less than a month. I have more than 650 GB space
available to Time Machine and my main disk normally uses under 200 GB. I am
glad I figured out why Time Machine was running out of space. I am hoping
this piece of advice can help someone before it is too late.
Regards,
Jon

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7b.

Re: TechTool Protection Can Eat Up Time Machine Disk Space

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:43 pm (PDT)



> If you are running TechTool Protection Directory Backup, then you should exclude the folder '/Library/Application Support/TechTool Protection' in Time Machine preferences.

BackupLoupe <http://soma-zone.com/BackupLoupe/> will show you exactly what is getting backed up in every Time Machine snapshot.

That Is how I decided to exclude those offending files around 2 years ago.

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