8/07/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9691

15 New Messages

Digest #9691
1a
Re: Onyx? by "PAULS" psimon
1b
Re: Onyx? by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
1c
Re: Onyx? by "David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
1d
Re: Onyx? by "Earle Jones" earlejones501
1e
Re: Onyx? by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
1f
Re: Onyx? by "ralfee2002" ralfee2002
1g
Re: Onyx? by "Jim Harry" jnharry
1h
Re: Onyx? by "David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
1i
Re: Onyx? by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
1j
Re: Onyx? by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
1k
Re: Onyx? by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
1l
Re: Onyx? by "David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
1m
Re: Onyx? by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
2a
Re: SSD Drive Maintenance by "barryhottle" barryhottle
3a
Re: Getting rid of Outlook by "fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart

Messages

Wed Aug 7, 2013 5:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"PAULS" psimon

Thanks!

Looks like I have my homework cut out for me!

---Paul

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 PM, PAULS wrote:
>
> > Is Onyx a safe software package to help "clean up" a MAC? I see lots of pinwheels and have read that Onyx can help with it.
>
> Wow, this question (about dealing with slowdowns and rotating beachballs) is starting to come up more and more often.
>
> Onyx is really nice, in that it is free, and it has lots of useful features. I tend not to recommend it, because it also has several features that newbies might get themselves into trouble with. I've tended to recommend this similar, but more limited, utility instead:
>
> YASU (free)
> http://yasuapp.com/
>
> I created two Web sites to deal with slowdowns and excessive appearances of the rotating beachball cursor. This is the one that I'd look at first:
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> While this page says that it is only for up to OS X 10.6, the only significant change for OS X 10.7 and 10.8 is that you should never, ever, defragment an SSD or a hybrid hard drive.
>
> If doing all of the suggested routine maintenance doesn't fix things, try this:
>
> Make sure that you have the latest copy of Flash (which is free) installed by doing this:
>
> Uninstall the copy of Flash that you have installed with this uninstaller (Adobe recommends doing this first):
> <http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player_osx.dmg>
> or
> http://is.gd/lrnKUG
>
> Then download the latest version of Flash directly from Adobe, and install it:
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>
> Then delete all of your Flash cookies by:
>
> - In the Finder
> Option-click the Go menu
> Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
> Trash all of the files in the folder at:
> /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/#SharedObjects
>
> - In the Finder
> Option-click the Go menu
> Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
> Trash all of the files in the folder at:
> /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys
>
> If you have commercial anti-virus software installed, I would suspect it to be the cause of your problem. For now, anti-virus software isn't needed for the Macintosh, and it tends to be more trouble than it's worth. Uninstall it using the developer's uninstaller program. (It's unlikely that you can fully uninstall it just by dragging its icon to the trash.)
>
> Finally, if the above doesn't solve the problem, see:
>
> Macintosh OS X Beachballs!
> http://www.macattorney.com/rbb.html
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>

Wed Aug 7, 2013 10:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

I may be one of the persons who started mentioning OnyX in this group
several years ago.

I think it's an excellent program but I have one caveat. It's
important to download and install the right version of OnyX for your
version of OS X.

I think in particular that OnyX has excellent cache cleaning features
including the ability to clear all of the Apple ATS font cache plus the
Microsoft Office, Adobe, and Quark font caches.

The Safe Disk boot command (boot with Shift key pressed) clears only
the ATS font cache (ATS = Apple Typographic System).

One of the good aspects of OnyX is that is has a nice brief Help
system. This is good for people who want to learn more about what each
of the Maintenance and Cleaning and other commands do before running
them.

For example, cleaning some items may result later in having to instruct
the Mac which program to use to open which file. After cleaning this
item, you reboot, and try to open a document with a double-click and
you get a dialog box asking which program to use. You only have to do
this one time for each file format after running some of the cleaning
commands but using the Help system first, when new to OnyX, would
prepare you for this to happen.

Denver Dan

On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 02:15:10 +0000, PAULS wrote:
> Is Onyx a safe software package to help "clean up" a MAC? I see lots
> of pinwheels and have read that Onyx can help with it.
>
> Anyone have any experience with it?
>
> Thanks...
>
>
> ---Paul
>

Wed Aug 7, 2013 10:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> I think in particular that OnyX has excellent cache cleaning features
> including the ability to clear all of the Apple ATS font cache plus the
> Microsoft Office, Adobe, and Quark font caches.

Are these features different than the ones in Yasu?

David

Wed Aug 7, 2013 10:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Earle Jones" earlejones501


On Aug 7, 13, at 4:35 AM, Chris Randazzo <chris.randazzo@clippermagazine.com> wrote:

> We've used it since it was released and I have over 400 machines. It works great for us. Never had an issue with it and it is always being upgraded when there is a new release of the next OS. I would highly recommend it.
>
> Chris
>
> On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:15 PM, PAULS <faatcpss@aol.com<mailto:faatcpss@aol.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Is Onyx a safe software package to help "clean up" a MAC? I see lots of pinwheels and have read that Onyx can help with it.
>
> Anyone have any experience with it?
>
> Thanks...
>
> ---Paul
>
*
Paul, Randy, et al:

I like 'Cocktail&#39; for routine cleanup operations. It is not free (about $20 ?) but has some nice features.

It runs the usual Daily, Weekly and Monthly scripts, clears the caches (system, user and internet caches), repairs disk permissions and clears log files. You can schedule all of these events or just have them done at your own request.

But the thing I like best is when it finishes its work, you can have it automatically shut down, quit, sleep, restart, or log out. I usually select 'sleep&#39; and start Cocktail when I finish work at the end of the day.

Randy, have you tried Cocktail? Any opinions?

Thanks!

earle
*
>

_______________________
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Wed Aug 7, 2013 12:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Download both programs and try them.

OnyX is 100% free. It's by a French company and has versions in French
and English.

I haven't used YASU.

However, I just browsed to the YASU web site to look and I think that
OnyX has a much larger set of maintenance and cleaning features

<http://yasuapp.com/>

And I just saw this announcement of the termination of YASU.

"Yasu is Free

With OS X Maverick's coming, I've made the decision to discontinue Yasu
development. So that means the app is now 100% free for all users. Use
this email and code to register the app. Support is not included."

Here is the Titanium (OnyX) web site:

<http://www.titanium.free.fr/>

For those new to Macintosh, or who haven't discovered it, this web site
is a database list of thousands of Macintosh programs including
shareware, freeware, nagware, postcard ware, and commercial ware.

<https://www.macupdate.com/>

Search for a listing like OnyX and it will present you with the ability
to download or to visit the Developer's web site.

Good luck!

Denver Dan

On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 10:27:57 -0700, David Brostoff wrote:
> On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:15 , Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I think in particular that OnyX has excellent cache cleaning features
>> including the ability to clear all of the Apple ATS font cache plus the
>> Microsoft Office, Adobe, and Quark font caches.
>
> Are these features different than the ones in Yasu?
>
> David

Wed Aug 7, 2013 3:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"ralfee2002" ralfee2002

I've used Onyx with previous OS versions and downloaded it to use with Mountain Lion. However, I get the message "Onyx can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer. Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the Mac App Store and identified developers". I can't find any reference in security prefs. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Ralph

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 PM, PAULS wrote:
>
> > Is Onyx a safe software package to help "clean up" a MAC? I see lots of pinwheels and have read that Onyx can help with it.
>
> Wow, this question (about dealing with slowdowns and rotating beachballs) is starting to come up more and more often.
>
> Onyx is really nice, in that it is free, and it has lots of useful features. I tend not to recommend it, because it also has several features that newbies might get themselves into trouble with. I've tended to recommend this similar, but more limited, utility instead:
>
> YASU (free)
> http://yasuapp.com/
>
> I created two Web sites to deal with slowdowns and excessive appearances of the rotating beachball cursor. This is the one that I'd look at first:
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> While this page says that it is only for up to OS X 10.6, the only significant change for OS X 10.7 and 10.8 is that you should never, ever, defragment an SSD or a hybrid hard drive.
>
> If doing all of the suggested routine maintenance doesn't fix things, try this:
>
> Make sure that you have the latest copy of Flash (which is free) installed by doing this:
>
> Uninstall the copy of Flash that you have installed with this uninstaller (Adobe recommends doing this first):
> <http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player_osx.dmg>
> or
> http://is.gd/lrnKUG
>
> Then download the latest version of Flash directly from Adobe, and install it:
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>
> Then delete all of your Flash cookies by:
>
> - In the Finder
> Option-click the Go menu
> Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
> Trash all of the files in the folder at:
> /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/#SharedObjects
>
> - In the Finder
> Option-click the Go menu
> Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
> Trash all of the files in the folder at:
> /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys
>
> If you have commercial anti-virus software installed, I would suspect it to be the cause of your problem. For now, anti-virus software isn't needed for the Macintosh, and it tends to be more trouble than it's worth. Uninstall it using the developer's uninstaller program. (It's unlikely that you can fully uninstall it just by dragging its icon to the trash.)
>
> Finally, if the above doesn't solve the problem, see:
>
> Macintosh OS X Beachballs!
> http://www.macattorney.com/rbb.html
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>

Wed Aug 7, 2013 3:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Harry" jnharry

On the General page of the Security & Privacy control panel. Click
"Anywhere"; under "Allow applications downloaded from:".

Jim H.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:23 PM, ralfee2002 <upnatm24@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I've used Onyx with previous OS versions and downloaded it to use with
> Mountain Lion. However, I get the message "Onyx can't be opened because it
> is from an unidentified developer. Your security preferences allow
> installation of only apps from the Mac App Store and identified
> developers". I can't find any reference in security prefs. Any
> suggestions? Thanks.
>
> Ralph
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 PM, PAULS wrote:
> >
> > > Is Onyx a safe software package to help "clean up" a MAC? I see lots
> of pinwheels and have read that Onyx can help with it.
> >
> > Wow, this question (about dealing with slowdowns and rotating
> beachballs) is starting to come up more and more often.
> >
> > Onyx is really nice, in that it is free, and it has lots of useful
> features. I tend not to recommend it, because it also has several features
> that newbies might get themselves into trouble with. I've tended to
> recommend this similar, but more limited, utility instead:
> >
> > YASU (free)
> > http://yasuapp.com/
> >
> > I created two Web sites to deal with slowdowns and excessive appearances
> of the rotating beachball cursor. This is the one that I'd look at first:
> >
> > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> > While this page says that it is only for up to OS X 10.6, the only
> significant change for OS X 10.7 and 10.8 is that you should never, ever,
> defragment an SSD or a hybrid hard drive.
> >
> > If doing all of the suggested routine maintenance doesn't fix things,
> try this:
> >
> > Make sure that you have the latest copy of Flash (which is free)
> installed by doing this:
> >
> > Uninstall the copy of Flash that you have installed with this
> uninstaller (Adobe recommends doing this first):
> > <
> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player_osx.dmg
> >
> > or
> > http://is.gd/lrnKUG
> >
> > Then download the latest version of Flash directly from Adobe, and
> install it:
> > http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
> >
> > Then delete all of your Flash cookies by:
> >
> > - In the Finder
> > Option-click the Go menu
> > Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
> > Trash all of the files in the folder at:
> > /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/#SharedObjects
> >
> > - In the Finder
> > Option-click the Go menu
> > Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
> > Trash all of the files in the folder at:
> > /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/
> macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys
> >
> > If you have commercial anti-virus software installed, I would suspect it
> to be the cause of your problem. For now, anti-virus software isn't needed
> for the Macintosh, and it tends to be more trouble than it's worth.
> Uninstall it using the developer's uninstaller program. (It's unlikely
> that you can fully uninstall it just by dragging its icon to the trash.)
> >
> > Finally, if the above doesn't solve the problem, see:
> >
> > Macintosh OS X Beachballs!
> > http://www.macattorney.com/rbb.html
> >
> > ___________________________________________
> > Randy B. Singer
> > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
> >
> > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> > ___________________________________________
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Wed Aug 7, 2013 4:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On Aug 7, 2013, at 15:23 , ralfee2002 <upnatm24@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I've used Onyx with previous OS versions and downloaded it to use with Mountain Lion. However, I get the message "Onyx can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer. Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the Mac App Store and identified developers". I can't find any reference in security prefs. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Right-click the application, then click Open in the resulting dialog box.

David

Wed Aug 7, 2013 4:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>> I've used Onyx with previous OS versions and downloaded it to use with Mountain Lion. However, I get the message "Onyx can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer. Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the Mac App Store and identified developers". I can't find any reference in security prefs. Any suggestions?
>> Ralph
>
> On the General page of the Security & Privacy control panel. Click "Anywhere"; under "Allow applications downloaded from:".
> Jim H.

Better yet, leave that alone to maintain your security, and hold down <Control> while you click to open the App for the first time.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Wed Aug 7, 2013 4:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 8 August 2013 00:18, David Brostoff <davbro@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> Right-click the application, then click Open in the resulting dialog box.
>
> IMO this is the best way of doing this because each time you install a new
app you are forced to think about it.

Otto

>
>

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Wed Aug 7, 2013 5:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 8 August 2013 00:31, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:

>
> Better yet, leave that alone to maintain your security, and hold down
> <Control> while you click to open the App for the first time.
>

Not aware of that. It looks like it does the same as the right-click
method. Good to know.

Otto

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Wed Aug 7, 2013 5:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On Aug 7, 2013, at 16:59 , Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 8 August 2013 00:31, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> Better yet, leave that alone to maintain your security, and hold down
>> <Control> while you click to open the App for the first time.
>>
> Not aware of that. It looks like it does the same as the right-click
> method. Good to know.

It's the way to right-click without a mouse.

David

Wed Aug 7, 2013 5:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>> Better yet, leave that alone to maintain your security, and hold down
>> <Control> while you click to open the App for the first time.
>
> Not aware of that. It looks like it does the same as the right-click
> method. Good to know.
> Otto

I have only had trackpads for 15 years. <Control><Click> = right-click.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Wed Aug 7, 2013 9:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"barryhottle" barryhottle



--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "barryhottle&quot; <barryhottle@...> wrote:
>
> I just purchased a new Macbook Air: 11 inch, 512g drive, 8 g ram. I have been unable to find a careful explanation of the workings of an SSD drive and the type of periodic maintenance it may need. Also, what recommendations does anyone have for a utility program, if any? The Apple Store reps say that no maintenance is necessary. Is that correct?
>
> Thank you.
>
Thank you to all who responded. Your input was helpful. I read the references and now understand the changes that I need to make in managing and using my Air.

Wed Aug 7, 2013 6:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart

I am glad and relieved to report that the problem seems to be solved. Glad that it's fixed and relieved that Bell didn't screw anything up when I allowed them to work directly at my desktop. It scares the hell out of me when they ask to do that but ...
The fix, finally, was to scrap the account and rebuild it, the person doing it seemed to be just poking around and trying things, much like I have been doing except I was not brave enough to scrap the account and set it up again. The net mail account is still there but all my mail also arrives in "MAIL" where I can preserve what I want on my own hard drive.

Thanks for all your suggestions

Darrell

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> Most services are pro-MS. Nothing new there.
>
> Since I don't have bell.net, how did you sign in? Go back there and turn it off. CS should be able to help you with that.
>
> Have you gone to Mail.app > Prefs > General, and made sure that your Default email reader was set to Mail.app?
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2013, at 6:03 AM, fussyoldfart wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Brent, that's a good plan. I have to say that getting help from Bell is problematical. I didn't know when I switched providers that Bell is obstinately pro-Microsoft; coupled to worse customer service than any I can think of this becomes a serious challenge for a dedicated Mac user. I know I can have Mail back in control, it worked for a few days when first I switched. Once I signed in to Outlook, however, net mail became my only path. I do not have any version of Outlook installed on my iMac. It seems that, like Facebook, once you are into Outlook there is no way out. (Ooh, that's too many "ins and outs" but I can't think of a better way to phrase it.)
>
> Darrell
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure if you set up the accounts in Mail, you could read them there. Go to the Bell.net support page or call them, and dig up the info you need if Mail can't set it up for you.
> >
> > I tried setting up a fake bell.net account on mine and the error message started "bell.net POP server "pophm.sympatico.ca" ", so there is a set up in Mail. If it is up to date is another question. I don't use bell.net and that is the reason I got an error message since it could not find my account on their servers.
> >
> > Brent
> >
> >
> > On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:36 AM, fussyoldfart wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Dan,
> >
> > I checked and that is exactly how Mail is configured but I still have to open Safari and go to Outlook to get my bell.net mail.
> >
> > Darrell McDonald
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Howdy.
> > >
> > > Darrell, launch Apple's Mail program.
> > >
> > > Open Mail>Preferences.
> > >
> > > Click the General icon on Toolbar in Preferences (if not already
> > > clicked).
> > >
> > > Note the very first item named Default email reader.
> > >
> > > What program is it set to?
> > >
> > > You should be able to set it to Mail to make Mail your default email
> > > program.
> > >
> > > Sometimes other email program may configure themselves as the default
> > > email program.
> > >
> > > BTW, same thing is available in Apple's Safari to set the default web
> > > browser program.
> > >
> > > Denver Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 02:04:39 +0000, fussyoldfart wrote:
> > > > I recently switched providers and now mail at the new address
> > > > provided by the new ISP comes in to Outlook as web mail. I want it to
> > > > arrive in my Mail Inbox with all the other mail such as gmail and
> > > > yahoo messages. It actually did this for a few days after the switch
> > > > but then I "signed in" to Outlook and now I have to use Safari to get
> > > > my email.
> > > >
> > > > With my other provider my personal mail always arrived in "Mail" as
> > > > well as my gmail.
> > > >
> > > > I went to the help section in Mail and followed the instructions to
> > > > have it delivered there but that didn't work. Outlook seems to have
> > > > taken control. It is possible I have misread the help instructions
> > > > but they seemed clear enough. I do know that I did nothing
> > > > intentional to commit to using Outlook and I don't like using it just
> > > > because it is not Mail and I can't save important messages to my hard
> > > > drive, they seem to reside on the net.
> > > >
> > > > Darrell McDonald
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
>
>
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