8/13/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9701

14 New Messages

Digest #9701
1a
Re: Mac mail by "Alan Fry" alanjohnfry
1b
Re: Mac mail by "Tauqir Rana" ranatqr
1c
Re: Mac mail by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
2a
Re: Onyx? by "Dave Clark" dave24c
2b
Re: Onyx? by "Dave Clark" dave24c
2c
Re: Onyx? by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
4a
Desktop Folder Name Change Weirdness by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
4c
Re: Desktop Folder Name Change Weirdness by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
5a
Re: Question for Randy by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
5b
Re: Question for Randy by "Eric" emanmb
6a
Security discussion by "Dave C" davec2468
6b
Re: Security discussion by "Bob Cook" cookrd1

Messages

Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Alan Fry" alanjohnfry


On 10 Aug 201322:05, at 22:05, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Tauqir,
>
> For some reason you are seeing this HTML or raw source. That particular email was an advertisement, and for some reason your Mac & your Mail.app settings are not wanting to let you see the graphics.
>
> If you have set up rules on one of the devices to move the email or in iCloud, but do not have the same folders on the Mac, you will not see it there.
>
> My rules are on my Mac, so I can not see all my email on my iPhone when the Mac is on and moves the email.
>
> Jim & Alan,
>
> Look back to the original post. For some reason Tauqir is seeing this HTML or raw source in some of his email in Mail.app on his MBA, but not his iDevices.
>
> I do not know what would cause this, do you two?
>

Yes, I now understand Tauqir's difficulty. Some Google queries revealed sporadic reports of similar problems with Mail.app but in no case was there either a resolution or diagnosis. I have tried to provoke my version of Mail (4.6) with no success at all. So I am at a loss to know what to suggest. I doubt it has anything to do with the setting of 'Mail/Message/Text Encoding' that I think Dan suggested. At any rate altering the setting to 'Simplified Chinese' didn't deter my copy of Mail.

Since Tauquir's other iDevices perform as expected it implies there is nothing amiss with the emails themselves. Hence it must be something in his MBA setup. Mail.app I believe deals with HTML with 'MailWebPlugin.webplugin' which is located inside the Mail package. I wonder if this is partly broken and a reinstall of Mail.app would resolve the problem?

Alan

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Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:03 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tauqir Rana" ranatqr

Thanks for the tips, I tweaked with all the codes but nothing doing. I am not sure this is such a common occurrence for me to reinstall mail.app. BTW if I need to reinstall where an I get a new copy.

Tauqir

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 12, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Alan Fry <ajf@afco.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
> On 10 Aug 201322:05, at 22:05, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> > Tauqir,
> >
> > For some reason you are seeing this HTML or raw source. That particular email was an advertisement, and for some reason your Mac & your Mail.app settings are not wanting to let you see the graphics.
> >
> > If you have set up rules on one of the devices to move the email or in iCloud, but do not have the same folders on the Mac, you will not see it there.
> >
> > My rules are on my Mac, so I can not see all my email on my iPhone when the Mac is on and moves the email.
> >
> > Jim & Alan,
> >
> > Look back to the original post. For some reason Tauqir is seeing this HTML or raw source in some of his email in Mail.app on his MBA, but not his iDevices.
> >
> > I do not know what would cause this, do you two?
> >
>
> Yes, I now understand Tauqir's difficulty. Some Google queries revealed sporadic reports of similar problems with Mail.app but in no case was there either a resolution or diagnosis. I have tried to provoke my version of Mail (4.6) with no success at all. So I am at a loss to know what to suggest. I doubt it has anything to do with the setting of 'Mail/Message/Text Encoding' that I think Dan suggested. At any rate altering the setting to 'Simplified Chinese' didn't deter my copy of Mail.
>
> Since Tauquir's other iDevices perform as expected it implies there is nothing amiss with the emails themselves. Hence it must be something in his MBA setup. Mail.app I believe deals with HTML with 'MailWebPlugin.webplugin&#39; which is located inside the Mail package. I wonder if this is partly broken and a reinstall of Mail.app would resolve the problem?
>
> Alan
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

There are several re-install things you can do.

A. If you made a Mac OS X bootable DVD install disc or flash/thumb
drive, you can re-install things and the system from that. One option
is to re-install so none of your applications, documents, files, music,
photos are impacted and all will still be present.

Or, insert the install DVD or flash/thumb drive. Locate the folder
named Packages. Look in Packages for Mail.pkg.

Launch Mail.pkg and you should be able to re-install Mail.

Still a good idea to have a backup first!

Note that if you bought the new Mac but don't have a bootable Mac OS X
DVD disc or flash/thumb drive you can still make one. You can access
the App Store (for Macintosh) from your Mac, log in to your account
with your Apple ID and Password, go to the Purchases section, and
download Mac OS X. Then use the download to burn a Mac OS X installer
DVD or install on a thumb/flash drive.

B. You can re-install things by booting into the Recovery partition
and re-installing.

C. Download fresh Mac OS X Mountain Lion installer, use the Disk Image
File included, burn your own Mountain Lion boot/install DVD (or do a
bootable flash/thumb drive).

C. Pacifist. This is a Shareware utility that is very useful.

<http://www.charlessoft.com/>

Pacifist can look into a Mac OS X DVD installer disk and can be used to
extract a single app and re-install it. This would include Apple's
Mail program and others.

The new 3.x version of Pacifist can now check "receipt" files and then
check for the latest version of an individual app and re-install it.

I don't think Pacifist will work with the invisible Recovery partition
that is part of Lion and Mountain Lion but if someone knows it can do
this please comment!

Denver Dan

On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:03:31 +0300, Tauqir Rana wrote:
> Thanks for the tips, I tweaked with all the codes but nothing doing.
> I am not sure this is such a common occurrence for me to reinstall
> mail.app. BTW if I need to reinstall where an I get a new copy.
>
> Tauqir

Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave Clark" dave24c

Randy and all,

My late 2011 MacBookPro with OS X 10.8.4 and 16G Ram is having far too many spinning beach balls. First, I repaired permissions in Disk Utility. The messages reflected only three repairs.

Then, I�ve tried uninstalling Flash per these instructions and installing a newly downloaded version of Flash. It will not install. I�ve tried to go to the Flash cookies per these instructions and do not find any files there, only several folders which will not delete (go to trash) because I don�t have permission.

So, as matter now stand, I have NO Flash running anywhere and can�t get it installed.

I do intend to download and install yasuapp, and maybe that will fix this problem.

Any suggestions?

Dave Clark
Irvine, CA
http://www.clarklawfirm.com
http://daveclarkimages.smugmug.com
http://facebook.com/daveclarkimages/

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On Aug 7, 2013, at 5:53 AM, PAULS <faatcpss@aol.com> wrote:

> Thanks!
>
>
> Looks like I have my homework cut out for me!
>
> ---Paul
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 PM, PAULS wrote:
>>
>>> Is Onyx a safe software package to help "clean up" a MAC? I see lots of pinwheels and have read that Onyx can help with it.
>>
>> Wow, this question (about dealing with slowdowns and rotating beachballs) is starting to come up more and more often.
>>
>> Onyx is really nice, in that it is free, and it has lots of useful features. I tend not to recommend it, because it also has several features that newbies might get themselves into trouble with. I've tended to recommend this similar, but more limited, utility instead:
>>
>> YASU (free)
>> http://yasuapp.com/
>>
>> I created two Web sites to deal with slowdowns and excessive appearances of the rotating beachball cursor. This is the one that I'd look at first:
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
>> While this page says that it is only for up to OS X 10.6, the only significant change for OS X 10.7 and 10.8 is that you should never, ever, defragment an SSD or a hybrid hard drive.
>>
>> If doing all of the suggested routine maintenance doesn't fix things, try this:
>>
>> Make sure that you have the latest copy of Flash (which is free) installed by doing this:
>>
>> Uninstall the copy of Flash that you have installed with this uninstaller (Adobe recommends doing this first):
>> <http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player_osx.dmg>
>> or
>> http://is.gd/lrnKUG
>>
>> Then download the latest version of Flash directly from Adobe, and install it:
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> Then delete all of your Flash cookies by:
>>
>> - In the Finder
>> Option-click the Go menu
>> Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
>> Trash all of the files in the folder at:
>> /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/#SharedObjects
>>
>> - In the Finder
>> Option-click the Go menu
>> Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
>> Trash all of the files in the folder at:
>> /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys
>>
>> If you have commercial anti-virus software installed, I would suspect it to be the cause of your problem. For now, anti-virus software isn't needed for the Macintosh, and it tends to be more trouble than it's worth. Uninstall it using the developer's uninstaller program. (It's unlikely that you can fully uninstall it just by dragging its icon to the trash.)
>>
>> Finally, if the above doesn't solve the problem, see:
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Beachballs!
>> http://www.macattorney.com/rbb.html
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>> Randy B. Singer
>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>
>
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Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave Clark" dave24c

Randy and All,

After running Yasu, I still cannot install the download of Flash Player 11.

And, when I try to delete the cookies as described below for #SharedObjects, there�s only a folder with another folder nested inside, and neither can be opened or trashed. The error message says they are both locked. The names of the two are 3MM5GT29 and the nested folder is s.ytimg.com (capitalization as indicated).

I haven�t tried deleting the cookies for support.

Now what?

Dave Clark
Irvine, CA
http://www.clarklawfirm.com
http://daveclarkimages.smugmug.com
http://facebook.com/daveclarkimages/

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On Aug 7, 2013, at 5:53 AM, PAULS <faatcpss@aol.com> wrote:

> Thanks!
>
>
> Looks like I have my homework cut out for me!
>
> ---Paul
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 PM, PAULS wrote:
>>
>>> Is Onyx a safe software package to help "clean up" a MAC? I see lots of pinwheels and have read that Onyx can help with it.
>>
>> Wow, this question (about dealing with slowdowns and rotating beachballs) is starting to come up more and more often.
>>
>> Onyx is really nice, in that it is free, and it has lots of useful features. I tend not to recommend it, because it also has several features that newbies might get themselves into trouble with. I've tended to recommend this similar, but more limited, utility instead:
>>
>> YASU (free)
>> http://yasuapp.com/
>>
>> I created two Web sites to deal with slowdowns and excessive appearances of the rotating beachball cursor. This is the one that I'd look at first:
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
>> While this page says that it is only for up to OS X 10.6, the only significant change for OS X 10.7 and 10.8 is that you should never, ever, defragment an SSD or a hybrid hard drive.
>>
>> If doing all of the suggested routine maintenance doesn't fix things, try this:
>>
>> Make sure that you have the latest copy of Flash (which is free) installed by doing this:
>>
>> Uninstall the copy of Flash that you have installed with this uninstaller (Adobe recommends doing this first):
>> <http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player_osx.dmg>
>> or
>> http://is.gd/lrnKUG
>>
>> Then download the latest version of Flash directly from Adobe, and install it:
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> Then delete all of your Flash cookies by:
>>
>> - In the Finder
>> Option-click the Go menu
>> Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
>> Trash all of the files in the folder at:
>> /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/#SharedObjects
>>
>> - In the Finder
>> Option-click the Go menu
>> Your ~/Library will appear in the menu; choose it
>> Trash all of the files in the folder at:
>> /Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys
>>
>> If you have commercial anti-virus software installed, I would suspect it to be the cause of your problem. For now, anti-virus software isn't needed for the Macintosh, and it tends to be more trouble than it's worth. Uninstall it using the developer's uninstaller program. (It's unlikely that you can fully uninstall it just by dragging its icon to the trash.)
>>
>> Finally, if the above doesn't solve the problem, see:
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Beachballs!
>> http://www.macattorney.com/rbb.html
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>> Randy B. Singer
>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
>
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>
>
>

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Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Aug 12, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Dave Clark wrote:

> After running Yasu, I still cannot install the download of Flash Player 11.

Are you logged in using an administrator account?

>
> And, when I try to delete the cookies as described below for #SharedObjects, there�s only a folder with another folder nested inside, and neither can be opened or trashed. The error message says they are both locked. The names of the two are 3MM5GT29 and the nested folder is s.ytimg.com (capitalization as indicated).

Assuming that you are logged in as an administrator, choose the selected folders, do a Get Info on them, and unlock them.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bill B." kernos501

I need to use Full Disk Encryption on my laptops using 10.6.8, but them cannot use Time Machine. Does this change on 10.7, 10.8 or 10.9?

How does one backup a fully encrypted disk maintaining encryption? Can this be done on iOS devices. For my computers, regulatory agencies require this.

Any advice about doing this is greatly appreciated. EG, do the cloning programs, SuperDuper, Carbon Copy Cloner created encrypted backups

IIRC, The encryption key uses ones login password. Is this still true? I woukd want to use a very strong key.

TIA,

BIll B

Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

This is a major mystery!

I have had 6 or 7 folders on my Desktop for a long time.

This morning I noticed that they have all, somehow, been renamed and
not by me.

An example is a folder I created when I downloaded an app named Icon
Creator.

This folder has a zip file in it.

This morning the folder name was:

Icon Creator>>EMPTY<<==EMPTY==

Several other folder have the same >>EMPTY<<==EMPTY== added to end of
the original folder name.

The folders open, still have content, and were backed up by Time
Machine.

None of my other hard drives have any folders with the name EMPTY
added.

Only folders on my Desktop boot drive were renamed.

What's going on?

I have no idea what did this and can't find any answers.

Any thoughts by group members?

Sign me
Denver Dan stumped

Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Never heard of this, and can't explain. CONSOLE could tell you what and when it occurred.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> This is a major mystery!
>
> I have had 6 or 7 folders on my Desktop for a long time.
>
> This morning I noticed that they have all, somehow, been renamed and
> not by me.
>
> An example is a folder I created when I downloaded an app named Icon
> Creator.
>
> This folder has a zip file in it.
>
> This morning the folder name was:
>
> Icon Creator>>EMPTY<<==EMPTY==
>
> Several other folder have the same >>EMPTY<<==EMPTY== added to end of
> the original folder name.
>
> The folders open, still have content, and were backed up by Time
> Machine.
>
> None of my other hard drives have any folders with the name EMPTY
> added.
>
> Only folders on my Desktop boot drive were renamed.
>
> What's going on?
>
> I have no idea what did this and can't find any answers.
>
> Any thoughts by group members?
>
> Sign me
> Denver Dan stumped
>

Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Good idea. Forgot about checking console.

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iSent from iDan's iPad

On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:44 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Never heard of this, and can't explain. CONSOLE could tell you what and when it occurred.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> This is a major mystery!
>>
>> I have had 6 or 7 folders on my Desktop for a long time.
>>
>> This morning I noticed that they have all, somehow, been renamed and
>> not by me.
>>
>> An example is a folder I created when I downloaded an app named Icon
>> Creator.
>>
>> This folder has a zip file in it.
>>
>> This morning the folder name was:
>>
>> Icon Creator>>EMPTY<<==EMPTY==
>>
>> Several other folder have the same >>EMPTY<<==EMPTY== added to end of
>> the original folder name.
>>
>> The folders open, still have content, and were backed up by Time
>> Machine.
>>
>> None of my other hard drives have any folders with the name EMPTY
>> added.
>>
>> Only folders on my Desktop boot drive were renamed.
>>
>> What's going on?
>>
>> I have no idea what did this and can't find any answers.
>>
>> Any thoughts by group members?
>>
>> Sign me
>> Denver Dan stumped
>
>
>
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>
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> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm>
>
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>
>
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Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> as to be run from a startup disk. But many new Macs don't come with optical drives. If you have a Mac that doesn't have an optical drive and you want to purchase DW, it's best to purchase it as a download and put it on an external boot drive or a bootable USB flash drive.

That's what I do. I installed Disk Warrior on my main drive. I clone the main drive weekly. When I need to run Disk Warrior I boot from the clone, and run Disk Warrior on the main drive. I still think it's a good investment unless you are almost penniless.

Daly

Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Eric" emanmb

Holy moly I had to check that as I couldn't believe that DW is now $100. Glad I bought a used disk for $20 and upgraded from that! :s
e

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...> wrote:
>
>
> Rarely, someone will run DU and it will report that it can't fix something, and in that instance DW can usually fix things. But that doesn't happen often enough to warrant paying $100 for a copy of Disk Warrior just on spec.
>
> Two interesting notes. First is that you can get a huge brand new hard drive for that same $100. It might be a better deal. Second, DW has to be run from a startup disk. But many new Macs don't come with optical drives. If you have a Mac that doesn't have an optical drive and you want to purchase DW, it's best to purchase it as a download and put it on an external boot drive or a bootable USB flash drive.

Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

I'm following a discussion regarding search engines and security. Someone made this statement:

"Seems pretty clear to me. You get anonymized if you go through the proxy, but not if you don't. It [a proxy] also disables javascript so the website you reach via proxy can't run code on your machine and potentially get information that way."

Filtering out the pros and cons of proxies, I thought maybe the author of that statement meant java, not javascript?

The risks of enabling java on personal computers is well-known. Is javascript also insecure? Or is that statement wrong?

Thanks,
Dave

Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:13 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bob Cook" cookrd1

Only problem I am aware of on Mac is a js exploit used to call Java which
then ran another exploit. Apple fixed that. Of course, not a problem if
you didn't have Java in the first place.

JS exploits are more of a problem on Windows, and email is used quite a bit
as the attack vector - a vulnerable computer only has to open an email, and
some email programs don't let you delete an email unless you open it first.
Such as the default mail program on my Windows tablet.
On Aug 13, 2013 1:24 AM, "Dave C" <davec2468@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I'm following a discussion regarding search engines and security. Someone
> made this statement:
>
> "Seems pretty clear to me. You get anonymized if you go through the proxy,
> but not if you don't. It [a proxy] also disables javascript so the website
> you reach via proxy can't run code on your machine and potentially get
> information that way."
>
> Filtering out the pros and cons of proxies, I thought maybe the author of
> that statement meant java, not javascript?
>
> The risks of enabling java on personal computers is well-known. Is
> javascript also insecure? Or is that statement wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>

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