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Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
I have a 2.8 GHz MacBookPro5,1 that I received originally in February 2009.
It had it the logicboard replaced in Autust 2009, and possibly again in 2011. No problems with it for the last 2 years, but that *could* be your problem.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
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> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
I have a 2.8 GHz MacBookPro5,
It had it the logicboard replaced in Autust 2009, and possibly again in 2011. No problems with it for the last 2 years, but that *could* be your problem.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
This sounds like a bad CMOS battery, the one on the motherboard that looks like a coin. That battery provides power to the motherboard BIOS firmware which is where the motherboard settings are, including the time and date. Battery goes bad, or wears out, or is taken out, the motherboard will lose all settings. It will still work as the board will auto detect hard drives etc but the time is often 1996 or so. As your computer is 2009 maybe the battery is bad (normally last 5+ years) or bad connection. I recall the battery model is 2026 I think.
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From: Hester Reik <dhreik@gmail.com >
To: macsupportcentral <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 11:53 PM
Subject: [macsupport] What happened.
Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC..
I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
out?
MBP 2009
Snow Leopard
2.26 GH
4 G RAM
New 500 GB HD
hester
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From: Hester Reik <dhreik@gmail.
To: macsupportcentral <macsupportcentral@
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 11:53 PM
Subject: [macsupport] What happened.
Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC..
I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
out?
MBP 2009
Snow Leopard
2.26 GH
4 G RAM
New 500 GB HD
hester
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Showalter" jshowalt94127
Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey. Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the clock updated to the current date/time.
This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
On Aug 28, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Hester Reik <dhreik@gmail.com > wrote:
> Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
> set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
> were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
>
> I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
> pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
> reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC.
>
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
On Aug 28, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Hester Reik <dhreik@gmail.
> Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
> set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
> were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
>
> I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
> pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
> reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC.
>
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
I dont know about if it has a CMOS battery as I use a PC, but they are using the same tech, so the motherboard should be no different to a PC one, which jave CMOS batteries.
Checked, they do, do a Google for mbp cmos battery
Lots of info re how to and location of it
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From: Jim Showalter <jshowalt@mindspring.com >
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] What happened.
Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey. Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the clock updated to the current date/time.
This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
On Aug 28, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Hester Reik <dhreik@gmail.com > wrote:
> Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
> set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
> were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
>
> I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
> pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
> reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC.
>
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Checked, they do, do a Google for mbp cmos battery
Lots of info re how to and location of it
____________
From: Jim Showalter <jshowalt@mindspring
To: macsupportcentral@
Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] What happened.
Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey. Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the clock updated to the current date/time.
This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
On Aug 28, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Hester Reik <dhreik@gmail.
> Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
> set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
> were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
>
> I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
> pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
> reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC.
>
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue
Jim;
I believe your MacBook does have a removable PRAM battery,
[
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Replacing+MacBook+Core+2+Duo+PRAM+Battery/529/1
]
but it's not a trivial matter to get to it to replace it.
> Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring.com >
> August 28, 2013 2:54 PM
> Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed
> a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time
> from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey.
> Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not
> show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the
> join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the
> clock updated to the current date/time.
>
> This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon
> was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join
> again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC
> reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
>
> I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not
> Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop
> battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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I believe your MacBook does have a removable PRAM battery,
[
http://www.ifixit.
]
but it's not a trivial matter to get to it to replace it.
> Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring
> August 28, 2013 2:54 PM
> Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed
> a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time
> from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey.
> Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not
> show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the
> join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the
> clock updated to the current date/time.
>
> This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon
> was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join
> again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC
> reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
>
> I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not
> Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop
> battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Showalter" jshowalt94127
Thanks, Tim, but that is for the A1181 model. Mine is the A1278. I'll keep looking.
On Aug 28, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@runbox.com > wrote:
> Jim;
>
> I believe your MacBook does have a removable PRAM battery,
> [
> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Replacing+MacBook+Core+2+Duo+PRAM+Battery/529/1
> ]
> but it's not a trivial matter to get to it to replace it.
>
> > Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring.com >
> > August 28, 2013 2:54 PM
> > Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed
> > a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time
> > from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey.
> > Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not
> > show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the
> > join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the
> > clock updated to the current date/time.
> >
> > This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon
> > was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join
> > again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC
> > reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
> >
> > I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not
> > Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop
> > battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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> > Group FAQ:
> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >
> >
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On Aug 28, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Tim O'Donoghue <tjod@runbox.
> Jim;
>
> I believe your MacBook does have a removable PRAM battery,
> [
> http://www.ifixit.
> ]
> but it's not a trivial matter to get to it to replace it.
>
> > Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring
> > August 28, 2013 2:54 PM
> > Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed
> > a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time
> > from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey.
> > Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not
> > show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the
> > join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the
> > clock updated to the current date/time.
> >
> > This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon
> > was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join
> > again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC
> > reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
> >
> > I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not
> > Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop
> > battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Tony wrote:
> As your computer is 2009 maybe the battery is bad (normally last 5+ years)
Unplug your computer from AC for one minute, then plug it back in and start it up (do not connect any network or Internet cable and be sure Wi-Fi was turned off before shutdown and remains turned off so that your Mac doesn't reset the data and time via the Internet.) If the Date and Time are correct, then the PRAM battery is OK. If they aren't correct, you need to replace your PRAM battery.
____________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"hester" drhester_06107
Thank you everyone for the replies. I tested it as Randy suggested and seems like PRAM battery is okay.
hester
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Randy B. Singer" <randy@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Tony wrote:
>
> > As your computer is 2009 maybe the battery is bad (normally last 5+ years)
>
> Unplug your computer from AC for one minute, then plug it back in and start it up (do not connect any network or Internet cable and be sure Wi-Fi was turned off before shutdown and remains turned off so that your Mac doesn't reset the data and time via the Internet.) If the Date and Time are correct, then the PRAM battery is OK. If they aren't correct, you need to replace your PRAM battery.
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
hester
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Tony wrote:
>
> > As your computer is 2009 maybe the battery is bad (normally last 5+ years)
>
> Unplug your computer from AC for one minute, then plug it back in and start it up (do not connect any network or Internet cable and be sure Wi-Fi was turned off before shutdown and remains turned off so that your Mac doesn't reset the data and time via the Internet.) If the Date and Time are correct, then the PRAM battery is OK. If they aren't correct, you need to replace your PRAM battery.
>
> ____________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattor
> ____________
>
Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tim O'Donoghue" timodonoghue
I thought the Unibody started in 2009 - that's another thing I learned
today.
That's good to know, thanks!
> Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring.com >
> August 28, 2013 4:19 PM
> Thanks, Tim, but that is for the A1181 model. Mine is the A1278. I'll
> keep looking.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Tim O'Donoghue <mailto:tjod@runbox.com >
> August 28, 2013 3:34 PM
>
> Jim;
>
> I believe your MacBook does have a removable PRAM battery,
> [
> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Replacing+MacBook+Core+2+Duo+PRAM+Battery/529/1
>
> ]
> but it's not a trivial matter to get to it to replace it.
>
> > Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring.com
> <mailto:jshowalt%40mindspring.com>>
> > August 28, 2013 2:54 PM
> > Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed
> > a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time
> > from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey.
> > Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not
> > show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the
> > join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the
> > clock updated to the current date/time.
> >
> > This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon
> > was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join
> > again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC
> > reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
> >
> > I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not
> > Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop
> > battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
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> > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
> Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring.com >
> August 28, 2013 2:54 PM
> Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed
> a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time
> from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey.
> Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not
> show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the
> join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the
> clock updated to the current date/time.
>
> This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon
> was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join
> again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC
> reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
>
> I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not
> Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop
> battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/files/faq.htm >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> Hester Reik <mailto:dhreik@gmail.com >
> August 28, 2013 4:53 AM
>
> Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
> set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
> were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
>
> I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
> pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
> reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC.
>
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was
> failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
today.
That's good to know, thanks!
> Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring
> August 28, 2013 4:19 PM
> Thanks, Tim, but that is for the A1181 model. Mine is the A1278. I'll
> keep looking.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://tech.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> Tim O'Donoghue <mailto:tjod@runbox.
> August 28, 2013 3:34 PM
>
> Jim;
>
> I believe your MacBook does have a removable PRAM battery,
> [
> http://www.ifixit.
>
> ]
> but it's not a trivial matter to get to it to replace it.
>
> > Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring
> <mailto:jshowalt
> > August 28, 2013 2:54 PM
> > Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed
> > a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time
> > from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey.
> > Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not
> > show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the
> > join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the
> > clock updated to the current date/time.
> >
> > This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon
> > was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join
> > again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC
> > reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
> >
> > I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not
> > Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop
> > battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
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> Jim Showalter <mailto:jshowalt@mindspring
> August 28, 2013 2:54 PM
> Wow, what a coincidence. Yesterday my wife's Macbook late 2008 showed
> a date of 2000. Checking to see why it wasn't updating the date/time
> from Apple per the settings, I noticed that the wifi icon was grey.
> Clicked on it and there was no wifi connection. Our home wifi did not
> show in the list of servers (it's set to not broadcast) so I did the
> join another network, entered the id and password. After reconnect the
> clock updated to the current date/time.
>
> This morning, after the Macbook slept during the night, the wifi icon
> was grey again and our home wifi did not show. I did the join
> again,and it seems to be ok for now. Had been considering the SMC
> reset to fix. If it happens again, I will do that.
>
> I haven't been able to find out whether the late 2008 Macbook (not
> Pro) has an onboard CMOS battery or not. Does anyone know? The laptop
> battery has a good charge, but could be getting flakey I guess.
>
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> Hester Reik <mailto:dhreik@gmail.
> August 28, 2013 4:53 AM
>
> Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
> set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
> were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
>
> I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
> pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
> reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC.
>
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was
> failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
>
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> I thought the Unibody started in 2009 - that's another thing I learned today.
Wonderful resource -- Mactracker:
<http://www.mactracker.ca >
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Aug 28, 2013, at 4:56 PM, hester wrote:
> Thank you everyone for the replies. I tested it as Randy suggested and seems like PRAM battery is okay.
Note that PRAM batteries are inexpensive, and if you have the least bit of doubt about yours, it's usually best to just replace it.
Other World Computing is a good source for PRAM batteries.
They stock them for less than $2:
http://eshop.
(note that I haven't checked to see if this is the right part number for your model of Mac)
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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Eric" emanmb
Hester this happened to me yesterday w/my wife's MBP 5,5 (same model as yours) with the only upgrade being a bigger HD than the OEM which was installed by the previous owner.
The one difference tween yours and my incident is that our battery was drained completely till the machine shut down. Upon attaching the power cord and RS'ing, the date was wrong with a warning about that, plus the network had been "forgotten" so I had to reset that and the PW.
It sounds like Tony's guess might be correct, at least in my case, as I performed the PRAM battery test per Randy's instructions too and everything was fine.
In my own search for an answer to this, I saw some posts saying there is NO PRAM battery in some MBP models of this vintage. http://tinyurl.com/omlo97t I haven't found anything conclusive that says OUR 2.26 model has no PRAM tho.
The link for PRAM replacement instructions posted earlier http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Replacing+MacBook+Core+2+Duo+PRAM+Battery/529/1 is for a different model than ours.
Ours has an intro date of June 8, 09. Repair Guides are here: <http://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_Pro_13%22_Unibody_Mid_2009 > <http://tinyurl.com/pgvta6j > and I see no mention, not that this is conclusive evidence, of PRAM replacement guides or PRAM at all.
Eric
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Hester Reik <dhreik@...> wrote:
>
> Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
> set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
> were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
>
> I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
> pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
> reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC.
>
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
The one difference tween yours and my incident is that our battery was drained completely till the machine shut down. Upon attaching the power cord and RS'ing, the date was wrong with a warning about that, plus the network had been "forgotten&quo
It sounds like Tony's guess might be correct, at least in my case, as I performed the PRAM battery test per Randy's instructions too and everything was fine.
In my own search for an answer to this, I saw some posts saying there is NO PRAM battery in some MBP models of this vintage. http://tinyurl.
The link for PRAM replacement instructions posted earlier http://www.ifixit.
Ours has an intro date of June 8, 09. Repair Guides are here: <http://www.ifixit.
Eric
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Yesterday after a random restart I saw a window saying the date/clock was
> set to before 2000. There were instructions how to reset. But all the tabs
> were grayed out so I couldn't reset.
>
> I realized that my Airport icon was also grayed out and had to re-enter my
> pw to join the network. Only then I was able to reset date/time and after
> reading on-line went ahead and reset the SMC.
>
> I am curious b/c 2 weeks ago I had to have my HD replaced as it was failing
> and wanted to make sure something else (??? MOtherboard) is not on the way
> out?
>
> MBP 2009
> Snow Leopard
> 2.26 GH
> 4 G RAM
> New 500 GB HD
>
> hester
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Louise Stewart" pudgybulldog
I too often get a message when looking at websites that the "pages are not responding" and if I choose to go to the page that I might lose information. What can I do to stop this and WHY is it happening?
Louise
OS 10.7.5 (11G63b)
Mac mini -- Mid 2011
2GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Intel HD Graphics 3000 288 MB
Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: Macmini5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2.3 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Boot ROM Version: MM51.0077.B10
SMC Version (system): 1.76f0
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Louise
OS 10.7.5 (11G63b)
Mac mini -- Mid 2011
2GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Intel HD Graphics 3000 288 MB
Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: Macmini5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2.3 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Boot ROM Version: MM51.0077.B10
SMC Version (system): 1.76f0
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Julian Thomas"
Today I turned on the wifi for the first time since I've had the machine. After several hours, the upper edge (right side) of the machine was quite warm. It's cooled down now that I turned it off again.
Is this normal?
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