8/08/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9694

15 New Messages

Digest #9694
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Re: Completely dead iMac by "Dave C" davec2468
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Re: Completely dead iMac by "Charles Lenington" fooltouse2
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Re: Completely dead iMac by "Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz
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Re: Completely dead iMac by "Dave C" davec2468
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Re: Completely dead iMac by "Vixpix" nyskater
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1Password with Dropbox by "John Masters" joemastersk
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Re: 1Password with Dropbox by "Jim Hamm" jimhamm90
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Re: Making Safari Act as Windows Browser by "Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
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Re: Making Safari Act as Windows Browser by "Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

Messages

Thu Aug 8, 2013 8:55 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Yup. Walked over the old rail high bridge at Poughkeepsie one cold
COLD windy day wearing a windbreaker. Froze to death. Colder than the
arctic survival camp out week I did in the Boy Scouts years ago when we
lived in Anchorage. Great view.

OK. Sign. back on topic.

Jim S mentioned doing a SMC Reset.

I should have mentioned that and I'm glad Jim did.

The SMC is the System Management Controller. It deals with a variety
of things but many have to do with sleep, power management, and more.
Doing the reset sometimes makes a dead Mac come to life. No guarantees
but always worth a try and it's easy to do as Jim showed in his
response.

Denver Dan

On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:44:13 -0400, Vixpix wrote:
> Dan,
>
> You do?? How cool is that! Have you tried the Walkway over the Hudson
> bridge? Longest walking bridge in the world.
>
> Vickie

Thu Aug 8, 2013 9:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

Does this model Mac have one of those small internal batteries that cause this symptom when they go flat?

Or am I thinking of ancient history?

Dave

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Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.

On 8 Aug 2013, at 08:55 AM, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

My question is - is there ever a chance for a fix to this? It's not responding to anything, as if there is no power supply.

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Thu Aug 8, 2013 10:24 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Charles Lenington" fooltouse2

On 8/8/13 9:28 AM, Vixpix wrote:
> I live in the Hudson Valley (Orange County) and I don't think we got any storm. The driveway was dry this morning.
>
> I also need to get a new UPS unit, because the battery is pretty much dead.
>
> Vickie 

Take the battery out noting the wires and proceed to Batteries Plus (or
similar) store for a new battery. most of the apc's use awerker WKA12-9F2
NOTE: THE 9F2 may vary

Thu Aug 8, 2013 12:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz

CMOS battery? That keeps the BIOS settings, tinme, etc, if that goes flat it just means the BIOS or Mac equivalent, time, is reset to probably years ago. In the PC world that won't cause a dead computer

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From: Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.com>
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] Completely dead iMac


 
Does this model Mac have one of those small internal batteries that cause this symptom when they go flat?

Or am I thinking of ancient history?

Dave

Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.

On 8 Aug 2013, at 08:55 AM, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

My question is - is there ever a chance for a fix to this? It's not responding to anything, as if there is no power supply.

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Thu Aug 8, 2013 12:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

Many Mac models ago a dead batterywould cause a "no boot". Dunno about current models...

Dave

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On 8 Aug 2013, at 12:31 PM, Tony <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

CMOS battery? That keeps the BIOS settings, tinme, etc, if that goes flat it just means the BIOS or Mac equivalent, time, is reset to probably years ago. In the PC world that won't cause a dead computer

________________________________
From: Dave C <davec2468@yahoo.com>
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] Completely dead iMac

Does this model Mac have one of those small internal batteries that cause this symptom when they go flat?

Or am I thinking of ancient history?

Dave

Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.

On 8 Aug 2013, at 08:55 AM, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

My question is - is there ever a chance for a fix to this? It's not responding to anything, as if there is no power supply.

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Thu Aug 8, 2013 4:30 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Vixpix" nyskater

YAY!!!

I took the computer's power cord from the UPS unit (with an expired battery) to a power strip nearby, and the computer turned right back on!

The Mac is Back!!

...now it's time to replace the battery in that UPS unit! Lol!

Vickie 

Sent from a spoiled little iPad

On Aug 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Vixpix <vixpix26@hvc.rr.com> wrote:

> Is there ever a chance of reviving a completely dead iMac? Mine never revived from sleep this morning. I have disconnected all other peripherals, and the only thing I haven't done was plug the Mac directly into the wall outlet. I have an appt. with Apple tomorrow.
>
> My question is - is there ever a chance for a fix to this? It's not responding to anything, as if there is no power supply.
>
> Vickie 
>
> Sent from a spoiled little iPad

Thu Aug 8, 2013 10:24 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"John Masters" joemastersk

Just a heads up for those of you using 1Password v3 on iOS and synching with Dropbox.

From September 1st Dropbox will be using a new , more secure API which means 1Password v3 for iOS will no longer sync to Dropbox. They are currently offering a low upgrade price to v4. All is explained here: http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/08/08/1password-3-dropbox-sync-faq/

John Masters
johnmasters@me.com

Thu Aug 8, 2013 11:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Hamm" jimhamm90

Thanks, John. Good info to know.....Jim

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM, John Masters <johnmasters@me.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Just a heads up for those of you using 1Password v3 on iOS and synching
> with Dropbox.
>
> From September 1st Dropbox will be using a new , more secure API which
> means 1Password v3 for iOS will no longer sync to Dropbox. They are
> currently offering a low upgrade price to v4. All is explained here:
> http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/08/08/1password-3-dropbox-sync-faq/
>
> John Masters
> johnmasters@me.com
>
>
>

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Thu Aug 8, 2013 2:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

mstupinski

I've lost track of the way to make Safari act as if it is a Windows browser. Seems to me it was an option under an 'Advanced&#39; menu, but darned if I can find it in Safari 6.0.5.

My town has installed on their home site a link to an application called AppGeo which allows detailed graphic view of the Assessor's database, but it is only partially functional under Safari. If I use Firefox as a browser most of the app (so far) seems to function OK, but I would like to use it under Safari.

The company that supplies it apparently says it "...works best with Internet Explorer 8 or higher." Does that sound familiar? I'l be pursuing that with the company but, in the meantime, how would I adjust Safari as described above?

Thanks,
................Mike

Thu Aug 8, 2013 2:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I've lost track of the way to make Safari act as if it is a Windows browser. Seems to me it was an option under an 'Advanced&#39; menu, but darned if I can find it in Safari 6.0.5.

*I* remember that one -- it's "User Agent" in the Developer menu.

What *I* don't remember is how to activate the Developer menu....

I probably could Google that....

> If I use Firefox as a browser most of the app (so far) seems to function OK, but I would like to use it under Safari.
>
> The company that supplies it apparently says it "...works best with Internet Explorer 8 or higher."

If it said IE 8 or better, you could claim you're already doing that, you're using Safari....

Found it: Safari Preferences -- Advanced -- check "Show Develop menu in menu bar."

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Thu Aug 8, 2013 2:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

Thanks, Jim! It's really hidden down that sequence though, isn't it?

...........Mike

On Aug 8, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:

>> I've lost track of the way to make Safari act as if it is a Windows browser. Seems to me it was an option under an 'Advanced&#39; menu, but darned if I can find it in Safari 6.0.5.
>
> *I* remember that one -- it's "User Agent" in the Developer menu.
>
> What *I* don't remember is how to activate the Developer menu....
>
> I probably could Google that....
>
>> If I use Firefox as a browser most of the app (so far) seems to function OK, but I would like to use it under Safari.
>>
>> The company that supplies it apparently says it "...works best with Internet Explorer 8 or higher."
>
> If it said IE 8 or better, you could claim you're already doing that, you're using Safari....
>
>
> Found it: Safari Preferences -- Advanced -- check "Show Develop menu in menu bar."
>
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Thu Aug 8, 2013 3:14 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Note that this cannot make Safari behave exactly like IE. What it does is
tell websites you visit that they should act as if the browser is IE, not
Safari.

Of course, none of this should be necessary: every website should obey W3C
standards and not behave any differently with different browsers.

Otto

On 8 August 2013 22:54, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:

> Thanks, Jim! It's really hidden down that sequence though, isn't it?
>

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Thu Aug 8, 2013 3:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

I agree, Otto. Running Safari as if it were IE8 resulted in an experience in which things seemed to go well, but then everything became unstable (displayed maps shrank to point sources, searches were erratic, etc.) I'll try talking to the app provider tomorrow and see what I learn.

.........Mike

On Aug 8, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Note that this cannot make Safari behave exactly like IE. What it does is
> tell websites you visit that they should act as if the browser is IE, not
> Safari.
>
> Of course, none of this should be necessary: every website should obey W3C
> standards and not behave any differently with different browsers.
>
> Otto
>
>
> On 8 August 2013 22:54, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@tiac.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Jim! It's really hidden down that sequence though, isn't it?
>>
>
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Thu Aug 8, 2013 3:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pete Nalda" lpnalda

Isn't the developer menu accessed in Safari preferencesin the advanced tab?

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On Aug 8, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com> wrote:

>> I've lost track of the way to make Safari act as if it is a Windows browser. Seems to me it was an option under an 'Advanced&#39; menu, but darned if I can find it in Safari 6.0.5.
>
> *I* remember that one -- it's "User Agent" in the Developer menu.
>
> What *I* don't remember is how to activate the Developer menu....
>
> I probably could Google that....
>
>> If I use Firefox as a browser most of the app (so far) seems to function OK, but I would like to use it under Safari.
>>
>> The company that supplies it apparently says it "...works best with Internet Explorer 8 or higher."
>
> If it said IE 8 or better, you could claim you're already doing that, you're using Safari....
>
>
> Found it: Safari Preferences -- Advanced -- check "Show Develop menu in menu bar."
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
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Thu Aug 8, 2013 4:43 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Aug 8, 2013, at 3:52 AM, James Robertson wrote:

> I've taken two more steps: first, after reading glowing reviews of the new Airport Extreme a/c router, I replaced my Airport Extreme (2nd generation) because:
>
> 1. It enables 802.11n devices to operate on the 5 GHz band while devices (iPhones, iPads) that cannot access the 5 GHz band to operate at 2.4 GHz. Apple says that permits the 5GHz-capable devices to communicate with the router faster (that's not new with this generation of the Airport Extreme, but it was not supported by my previous AEBS router.

That's cool.

> 2. It supports a Guest network (second SSID), so that people coming to my house who need internet access can obtain it without requiring access to my primary LAN, and I don't need to give out the WPA2 password for my primary WiFi network to those guests.

Just a comment, really, but so did the earlier Airport Extreme (mine is one of those square ones). I have a guest network.

Daly