8/18/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9709

11 New Messages

Digest #9709
2a
email question by "Louise Stewart" pudgybulldog
2b
Re: email question by "John Masters" joemastersk
2c
Re: email question by "Barry Austern" barryaus
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Re: email question by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: email question by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: email question by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: email question by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: email question by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
2i
Re: email question by "Christopher Collins" cjc1959au
3a
Re: Help with Users and Groups by "aaandme127" aaandme127

Messages

Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll

The square box is the right side but on/y the top left 1/4 of the
video shows the other 3/4 is white/nothing.

Even when I did a version check at the Flash site the little box that
shows browser version is cut off.

I re-installed Flash and Firefox 23.0.1 still same problem Safari and
Chrome fine.

Any Fiefox Mac users have this problem and solve it?

Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:51 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Louise Stewart" pudgybulldog

I have a Mac Mini and also a G4. The Mac MIni is the computer I use 99% of the time, but I occasionally use Quark on the G4. When I first switched over, I don't remember why, but I kept my email on both computers working and receiving emails. The email is Mail that comes with the Macs.

I keep email on the Mini cleaned out pretty well, but on the G4, there are over 100,000 emails. Occasionally I try to delete them, but I can only delete maybe 15 or 20 at a time because otherwise, I have to wait and wait for them to delete. Is there a way I can delete all of the emails on the G4 and not allow anymore to come in, but keep the addresses there? There might still be some email addresses I'll need. OR, how can I move ALL of the email addresses to the Mini? Most WERE moved when the Mini was installed, but some remained on the G4. I have no idea why.

Louise

OS 10.7.5 (11G63b)
Mac mini -- Mid 2011
2GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Intel HD Graphics 3000 288 MB

Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: Macmini5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2.3 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Boot ROM Version: MM51.0077.B10
SMC Version (system): 1.76f0

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Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:16 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"John Masters" joemastersk

First of all we need to know whether your email accounts use IMAP or POP3.

IMAP accounts keep the mail on the server and if you delete an email from one machine then it is deleted from the server and consequently from all other machines that access that account through IMAP.

POP3 accounts, on the other hand, download messages to each machine and do not delete the emails from the server unless set to do so, although typically they will delete messages after a certain time to free up space.

Some email providers allow you to access through either IMAP or POP3 which can get confusing. Firstly establish which protocol you are using for each account. Get rid of the emails you do not need to keep and archive the rest. I create a folder for each year with subfolders for each month. When I have read an email and wish to keep it I move it to the appropriate folder. If it can be deleted then I delete it immediately. If it needs actioning then I flag it appropriately.

If you have more than half a dozen emails in your inbox at any time then you need to clean things up.

BTW there are several tools I use to help me in this especially InfoClick, Mail Act-On, Mail Tags and Keyboard Maestro.

John Masters
johnmasters@me.com

On 17 Aug 2013, at 19:51, Louise Stewart <veggie236@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I have a Mac Mini and also a G4. The Mac MIni is the computer I use 99% of the time, but I occasionally use Quark on the G4. When I first switched over, I don't remember why, but I kept my email on both computers working and receiving emails. The email is Mail that comes with the Macs.
>
> I keep email on the Mini cleaned out pretty well, but on the G4, there are over 100,000 emails. Occasionally I try to delete them, but I can only delete maybe 15 or 20 at a time because otherwise, I have to wait and wait for them to delete. Is there a way I can delete all of the emails on the G4 and not allow anymore to come in, but keep the addresses there? There might still be some email addresses I'll need. OR, how can I move ALL of the email addresses to the Mini? Most WERE moved when the Mini was installed, but some remained on the G4. I have no idea why.
>
> Louise
>
> OS 10.7.5 (11G63b)
> Mac mini -- Mid 2011
> 2GB 1333 MHz DDR3
> Intel HD Graphics 3000 288 MB
>
> Model Name: Mac mini
> Model Identifier: Macmini5,1
> Processor Name: Intel Core i5
> Processor Speed: 2.3 GHz
> Number of Processors: 1
> Total Number of Cores: 2
> L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
> L3 Cache: 3 MB
> Memory: 2 GB
> Boot ROM Version: MM51.0077.B10
> SMC Version (system): 1.76f0
>
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>
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Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:38 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus


On Aug 17, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Louise Stewart wrote:

> I have a Mac Mini and also a G4. The Mac MIni is the computer I use 99% of the time, but I occasionally use Quark on the G4. When I first switched over, I don't remember why, but I kept my email on both computers working and receiving emails. The email is Mail that comes with the Macs.
>
> I keep email on the Mini cleaned out pretty well, but on the G4, there are over 100,000 emails. Occasionally I try to delete them, but I can only delete maybe 15 or 20 at a time because otherwise, I have to wait and wait for them to delete. Is there a way I can delete all of the emails on the G4 and not allow anymore to come in, but keep the addresses there? There might still be some email addresses I'll need. OR, how can I move ALL of the email addresses to the Mini? Most WERE moved when the Mini was installed, but some remained on the G4. I have no idea why.
>
>
>
>

Transfer the few (if any) you wish to save and then delete the accounts. This will delete the mail in the account. If you wish then reinstitute the account(s)
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:03 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Rather than delete the accounts, disable them.

Mail Prefs > Accounts > Advanced (tab) > uncheck Enable this account

If you re-enable the account it will download a ton from the server.

Brent

On Aug 17, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Barry Austern wrote:

On Aug 17, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Louise Stewart wrote:

> I have a Mac Mini and also a G4. The Mac MIni is the computer I use 99% of the time, but I occasionally use Quark on the G4. When I first switched over, I don't remember why, but I kept my email on both computers working and receiving emails. The email is Mail that comes with the Macs.
>
> I keep email on the Mini cleaned out pretty well, but on the G4, there are over 100,000 emails. Occasionally I try to delete them, but I can only delete maybe 15 or 20 at a time because otherwise, I have to wait and wait for them to delete. Is there a way I can delete all of the emails on the G4 and not allow anymore to come in, but keep the addresses there? There might still be some email addresses I'll need. OR, how can I move ALL of the email addresses to the Mini? Most WERE moved when the Mini was installed, but some remained on the G4. I have no idea why.
>
>
>
>

Transfer the few (if any) you wish to save and then delete the accounts. This will delete the mail in the account. If you wish then reinstitute the account(s)
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:06 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

I forgot to say that I believe Apple's Mail.app for Mac does not store the emails as individual entries, but all as a total database. And that might explain why deletions take so much time.

Hopefully, someone with a better understanding on Mail.app can help.

Brent

On Aug 17, 2013, at 4:03 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

Rather than delete the accounts, disable them.

Mail Prefs > Accounts > Advanced (tab) > uncheck Enable this account

If you re-enable the account it will download a ton from the server.

Brent

On Aug 17, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Barry Austern wrote:

On Aug 17, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Louise Stewart wrote:

> I have a Mac Mini and also a G4. The Mac MIni is the computer I use 99% of the time, but I occasionally use Quark on the G4. When I first switched over, I don't remember why, but I kept my email on both computers working and receiving emails. The email is Mail that comes with the Macs.
>
> I keep email on the Mini cleaned out pretty well, but on the G4, there are over 100,000 emails. Occasionally I try to delete them, but I can only delete maybe 15 or 20 at a time because otherwise, I have to wait and wait for them to delete. Is there a way I can delete all of the emails on the G4 and not allow anymore to come in, but keep the addresses there? There might still be some email addresses I'll need. OR, how can I move ALL of the email addresses to the Mini? Most WERE moved when the Mini was installed, but some remained on the G4. I have no idea why.
>
>
>
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Transfer the few (if any) you wish to save and then delete the accounts. This will delete the mail in the account. If you wish then reinstitute the account(s)
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I forgot to say that I believe Apple's Mail.app for Mac does not store the emails as individual entries, but all as a total database. And that might explain why deletions take so much time.
>
> Hopefully, someone with a better understanding on Mail.app can help.
> Brent

Apple's Mail stores the emails as individual entries.
In my case, I can browse under:

/Users/jimdoc/Library/Mail/V2/AosIMAP-jimdoc/

and find messages in the subdirectories.

I have even used TextWrangler to edit and re-save individual email messages.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:40 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Like I said I don't know much about Mail.

I can follow you down to V2, but that is as far as I can follow you. Most of mine are POP accounts and I can only drill down to a folder named something like 7302F398-CCF7-4BE7-BE06-524B4E18B4F2 and a info.plist. I can not even find my mac.com account mailbox. I can dig down a little more, but I would not even begin to now how to find a specific email.

Brent

On Aug 17, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> I forgot to say that I believe Apple's Mail.app for Mac does not store the emails as individual entries, but all as a total database. And that might explain why deletions take so much time.
>
> Hopefully, someone with a better understanding on Mail.app can help.
> Brent

Apple's Mail stores the emails as individual entries.
In my case, I can browse under:

/Users/jimdoc/Library/Mail/V2/AosIMAP-jimdoc/

and find messages in the subdirectories.

I have even used TextWrangler to edit and re-save individual email messages.

--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

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Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> Like I said I don't know much about Mail.
>
> I can follow you down to V2, but that is as far as I can follow you. Most of mine are POP accounts and I can only drill down to a folder named something like 7302F398-CCF7-4BE7-BE06-524B4E18B4F2 and a info.plist. I can not even find my mac.com account mailbox. I can dig down a little more, but I would not even begin to now how to find a specific email.
>
> Brent

I can't help a lot with POP accounts.

Although I have one set up as POP, as soon as anything appears in it, I either delete it or move it somewhere else, so that area of ~/Library/Mail is more or less empty.

--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:14 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Christopher Collins" cjc1959au

Tag one mail, CTRL-A to tag all, and then do what you wish.

cjc

On 18/08/2013, at 4:51 AM, Louise Stewart <veggie236@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I have a Mac Mini and also a G4. The Mac MIni is the computer I use 99% of the time, but I occasionally use Quark on the G4. When I first switched over, I don't remember why, but I kept my email on both computers working and receiving emails. The email is Mail that comes with the Macs.
>
> I keep email on the Mini cleaned out pretty well, but on the G4, there are over 100,000 emails. Occasionally I try to delete them, but I can only delete maybe 15 or 20 at a time because otherwise, I have to wait and wait for them to delete. Is there a way I can delete all of the emails on the G4 and not allow anymore to come in, but keep the addresses there? There might still be some email addresses I'll need. OR, how can I move ALL of the email addresses to the Mini? Most WERE moved when the Mini was installed, but some remained on the G4. I have no idea why.
>
> Louise
>
> OS 10.7.5 (11G63b)
> Mac mini -- Mid 2011
> 2GB 1333 MHz DDR3
> Intel HD Graphics 3000 288 MB
>
> Model Name: Mac mini
> Model Identifier: Macmini5,1
> Processor Name: Intel Core i5
> Processor Speed: 2.3 GHz
> Number of Processors: 1
> Total Number of Cores: 2
> L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
> L3 Cache: 3 MB
> Memory: 2 GB
> Boot ROM Version: MM51.0077.B10
> SMC Version (system): 1.76f0
>

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Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:28 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"aaandme127" aaandme127



--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "aaandme127&quot; <aaandme127@...> wrote:
>
>
> New to mac mini and OS X 10 Mountain Lion. During install and setup, migration assistant was used to import files from a macbook,ethernet to ethernet. It was a smooth and quick setup. The only issue so far is the 3 user accounts.
> How can I make the mac mini a one user machine?
> Allen Eaton
>
Mountain lion up and running on mac mini.

With the help from Mac Support,the extra user was deleted without loosing files.

If you are unable to delete a User on Mountain Lion, try this: Open and unlock Users-Restart computer-Open and unlock users again- All users will be highlighted - Select the user you want to delete and click on the (-).

Thank all of you again for your help.

Allen