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Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"hester" drhester_06107
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> The one difference tween yours and my incident is that our battery was drained completely till the machine shut down. Upon attaching the power cord and RS'ing, the date was wrong with a warning about that, plus the network had been "forgotten&quo
>
> In my own search for an answer to this, I saw some posts saying there is NO PRAM battery in some MBP models of this vintage. http://tinyurl.
>
>
> Eric
Hi Eric,
What serendipity!
Your issue is easier to explain since it had to do w a drained battery. I have a local tech (Mac-certified) guru who agreed that it was likely the pram battery (in fact as I was speaking with him he said, if you totally drain your battery.... then he outlined what happened to your wife's mbp)..... but like you I read that some 2009s have no removable Pram battery. Who knows?
So far this mbp has hung onto the settings. I'll take it to this guy if it starts acting funny. Thanks for your reply.
hester
Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Other World Computing is a good source for PRAM batteries.
> They stock them for less than $2:
> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/CR2032/
> (note that I haven't checked to see if this is the right part number for your model of Mac)
A few weeks ago I needed exactly that: a CR2032 coin cell.
I found it locally.
Some places to look: Radio Shack, Best Buy, hardware stores, drug stores.
> They stock them for less than $2:
> http://eshop.
> (note that I haven't checked to see if this is the right part number for your model of Mac)
A few weeks ago I needed exactly that: a CR2032 coin cell.
I found it locally.
Some places to look: Radio Shack, Best Buy, hardware stores, drug stores.
Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:42 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> In my own search for an answer to this, I saw some posts saying there is NO PRAM battery in some MBP models of this vintage. http://tinyurl.com/omlo97t I haven't found anything conclusive that says OUR 2.26 model has no PRAM tho.
My research online suggests that this is the case: this model (MacbookPro5,5) does NOT have a PRAM battery.
My research online suggests that this is the case: this model (MacbookPro5,
Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pat Taylor" pat412255
I've found that the prices for these batteries on Amazon are substantially lower than what the local merchants charge in my area. I am a Prime member so shipping is not a factor for me.
On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.com > wrote:
> A few weeks ago I needed exactly that: a CR2032 coin cell.
> I found it locally.
> Some places to look: Radio Shack, Best Buy, hardware stores, drug stores.
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On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.
> A few weeks ago I needed exactly that: a CR2032 coin cell.
> I found it locally.
> Some places to look: Radio Shack, Best Buy, hardware stores, drug stores.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Eric" emanmb
My guess is you're right.
The Apple Model No A1278 is the same for this and some others according to the everymac.com page for the 2.26. This must be why I saw the references for another model having no PRAM battery as well.
I dunno, we'll live w/it for now. :s
e
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > In my own search for an answer to this, I saw some posts saying there is NO PRAM battery in some MBP models of this vintage. http://tinyurl.com/omlo97t I haven't found anything conclusive that says OUR 2.26 model has no PRAM tho.
>
> My research online suggests that this is the case: this model (MacbookPro5,5) does NOT have a PRAM battery.
>
The Apple Model No A1278 is the same for this and some others according to the everymac.com page for the 2.26. This must be why I saw the references for another model having no PRAM battery as well.
I dunno, we'll live w/it for now. :s
e
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> > In my own search for an answer to this, I saw some posts saying there is NO PRAM battery in some MBP models of this vintage. http://tinyurl.
>
> My research online suggests that this is the case: this model (MacbookPro5,
>
Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"hester" drhester_06107
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> My guess is you're right.
> The Apple Model No A1278 is the same for this and some others according to the everymac.com page for the 2.26. This must be why I saw the references for another model having no PRAM battery as well.
> I dunno, we'll live w/it for now. :s
> e
>
>
Eric, don't worry. Further research turned up this from ifixit:
"Yes, you need to unsolder it. It is located right next to the trackpad connector. It looks exactly like a small watch battery with solder tabs. Be very careful, too much heat and the logic board trace will lift.
"I am looking at a small battery soldered onto the A1278 logic board right now as I type. All macbooks and macbook pros have batteries, but most are on a pigtailed connector either taped to the logic board or hidden under the optical drive. The sizes range from a 1/4 dime to a quarter. The types are lithium although the smallest almost seem like alkalines?"
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:
peteret2002
Good afternoon,
This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for help.
I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a Mac
compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft's Office suite. Does that also
mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of date and
not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this group
might help me out with some advice.
Thank you in advance.
Peter.
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This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for help.
I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a Mac
compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft'
mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of date and
not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this group
might help me out with some advice.
Thank you in advance.
Peter.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:
ed-reiff
There are open source suites, "Open Office" and others that are free and you have IWorks for a fairly reasonable price. Ed --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , <thompsonpe@...> wrote: Good afternoon,
This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for help.
I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a Mac
compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft's Office suite. Does that also
mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of date and
not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this group
might help me out with some advice.
Thank you in advance.
Peter.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for help.
I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a Mac
compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft'
mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of date and
not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this group
might help me out with some advice.
Thank you in advance.
Peter.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:24 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Hamm" jimhamm90
Another good office suite for the Mac is NeoOffice. Take a look
here<http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php >
.....Jim
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:30 AM, <ed@reiff.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> There are open source suites, "Open Office" and others that are free and
> you have IWorks for a fairly reasonable price. Ed --- In
> macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , <thompsonpe@...> wrote: Good
> afternoon,
>
> This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for
> help.
>
> I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
> very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
>
> My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
> sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a
> Mac
> compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
>
> To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
> Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft's Office suite. Does that also
> mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
> systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of
> date and
> not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
>
> I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
> versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this
> group
> might help me out with some advice.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Peter.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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here<http://www.neooffic
.....Jim
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:30 AM, <ed@reiff.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> There are open source suites, "Open Office" and others that are free and
> you have IWorks for a fairly reasonable price. Ed --- In
> macsupportcentral@
> afternoon,
>
> This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for
> help.
>
> I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
> very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
>
> My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
> sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a
> Mac
> compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
>
> To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
> Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft'
> mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
> systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of
> date and
> not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
>
> I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
> versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this
> group
> might help me out with some advice.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Peter.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Engberg" mrbyte
On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:21 PM, thompsonpe@aol.
> Good afternoon,
>
> This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for help.
>
> I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
> very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
>
> My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
> sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a Mac
> compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
>
> To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
> Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft'
> mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
> systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of date and
> not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
>
> I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
> versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this group
> might help me out with some advice.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Peter.
>
>
Take a look at Libre Office and Neo Office.
Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Earle Jones" earlejones501
On Aug 29, 13, at 9:21 AM, thompsonpe@aol.
> Good afternoon,
>
> This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for help.
>
> I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
> very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
>
> My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
> sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a Mac
> compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
>
> To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
> Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft'
> mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
> systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of date and
> not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
>
> I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
> versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this group
> might help me out with some advice.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Peter.
>
*
Peter: If you are used to the Word, Excel, and PowerPoint (Microsoft) office programs, you will find that the Apple equivalents (Pages, Numbers, and Keynote) are just as good and much easier to use.
Especially Pages vs Word. Word has become so overloaded with "features"
I would say that Pages is much, much better than Word.
I would say that Numbers is almost as good as Excel.
I would say the Keynote and PowerPoint are equal.
And no annual fees, by the way.
I'm sorry that FileMaker'
And you're right–FileMaker Pro is a bit expensive. There are some other Mac-oriented data bases, but I am not very familiar with them.
Cheers!
earle
*
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501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Go easier on your self, and there is plenty of software for both OS X and iOS.
As Earle pointed out, Pages, Numbers and Keynote are the replacements for Office. There are other Office replacements as others have mentioned.
Sadly Filremaker is dropping Bento, so if you can find a copy, grab it. FM is way too expensive for non-business use.
Once you get a Mac that is new enough to have the (Mac) App Store app on it, you can find lots of software there, besides elsewhere. You need 10.6.8 or newer to have the App Store app.
Brent
On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:21 AM, thompsonpe@aol.com wrote:
Good afternoon,
This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for help.
I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a Mac
compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft's Office suite. Does that also
mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of date and
not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this group
might help me out with some advice.
Thank you in advance.
Peter.
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As Earle pointed out, Pages, Numbers and Keynote are the replacements for Office. There are other Office replacements as others have mentioned.
Sadly Filremaker is dropping Bento, so if you can find a copy, grab it. FM is way too expensive for non-business use.
Once you get a Mac that is new enough to have the (Mac) App Store app on it, you can find lots of software there, besides elsewhere. You need 10.6.8 or newer to have the App Store app.
Brent
On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:21 AM, thompsonpe@aol.
Good afternoon,
This note will I am sure prove my ignorance. Even so I am looking for help.
I have been running out of patience with Windows and Microsoft. I bought a
very nice iPad three months ago and I am delighted with it.
My next move soon now will be to buy an iMac. All fine until I came to
sourcing software. I want an office suite and a database package. I have a Mac
compatible version of Adobe Photoshop Elements already.
To my dismay it looks like Apple Works is no longer produced and the only
Office suite available for Mac is Microsoft'
mean I will have to pay an annual fee as they do now with the Wintel
systems? I then find that Bento's Database software looks to be out of date and
not produced. File Maker looks a bit expensive.
I realise most of my lack of information will be because I am not well
versed in Mac software and I hope the very knowledgeable folk on this group
might help me out with some advice.
Thank you in advance.
Peter.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dane Robison"
In the middle of moving a ton of files from one external FW800 drive to another, progress suddenly halted. I clicked the "stop" button in the progress window and now it's stuck there saying "stopping."
After some recent problems with a different drive, I'm reluctant to take further action without asking some advice regarding what would be the most sensible next step.
Do I risk something as drastic as a hard reboot? Or is there a safer, "softer" way out of this?
I can't do anything that would jeopardize the drives, as one of them is my photo archive and the other is its backup. So sort of a nightmare scenario, with both copies of my archive involved.
Help? Thanks!
Dane
After some recent problems with a different drive, I'm reluctant to take further action without asking some advice regarding what would be the most sensible next step.
Do I risk something as drastic as a hard reboot? Or is there a safer, "softer" way out of this?
I can't do anything that would jeopardize the drives, as one of them is my photo archive and the other is its backup. So sort of a nightmare scenario, with both copies of my archive involved.
Help? Thanks!
Dane
Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Force-quit Finder. You won't lose anything already copied.
Otto
On 29 August 2013 23:32, Dane Robison <macdane@mac.com > wrote:
> In the middle of moving a ton of files from one external FW800 drive to
> another, progress suddenly halted. I clicked the "stop" button in the
> progress window and now it's stuck there saying "stopping."
>
> After some recent problems with a different drive, I'm reluctant to take
> further action without asking some advice regarding what would be the most
> sensible next step.
>
> Do I risk something as drastic as a hard reboot? Or is there a safer,
> "softer" way out of this?
>
> I can't do anything that would jeopardize the drives, as one of them is my
> photo archive and the other is its backup. So sort of a nightmare scenario,
> with both copies of my archive involved.
>
> Help? Thanks!
>
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Otto
On 29 August 2013 23:32, Dane Robison <macdane@mac.
> In the middle of moving a ton of files from one external FW800 drive to
> another, progress suddenly halted. I clicked the "stop" button in the
> progress window and now it's stuck there saying "stopping.
>
> After some recent problems with a different drive, I'm reluctant to take
> further action without asking some advice regarding what would be the most
> sensible next step.
>
> Do I risk something as drastic as a hard reboot? Or is there a safer,
> "softer" way out of this?
>
> I can't do anything that would jeopardize the drives, as one of them is my
> photo archive and the other is its backup. So sort of a nightmare scenario,
> with both copies of my archive involved.
>
> Help? Thanks!
>
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
You just won't know what was fully copied over. Redo all the files you were moving, but copy them over in smaller groups.
Brent
On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
Force-quit Finder. You won't lose anything already copied.
Otto
On 29 August 2013 23:32, Dane Robison <macdane@mac.com > wrote:
> In the middle of moving a ton of files from one external FW800 drive to
> another, progress suddenly halted. I clicked the "stop" button in the
> progress window and now it's stuck there saying "stopping."
>
> After some recent problems with a different drive, I'm reluctant to take
> further action without asking some advice regarding what would be the most
> sensible next step.
>
> Do I risk something as drastic as a hard reboot? Or is there a safer,
> "softer" way out of this?
>
> I can't do anything that would jeopardize the drives, as one of them is my
> photo archive and the other is its backup. So sort of a nightmare scenario,
> with both copies of my archive involved.
>
> Help? Thanks!
>
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Brent
On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
Force-quit Finder. You won't lose anything already copied.
Otto
On 29 August 2013 23:32, Dane Robison <macdane@mac.
> In the middle of moving a ton of files from one external FW800 drive to
> another, progress suddenly halted. I clicked the "stop" button in the
> progress window and now it's stuck there saying "stopping.
>
> After some recent problems with a different drive, I'm reluctant to take
> further action without asking some advice regarding what would be the most
> sensible next step.
>
> Do I risk something as drastic as a hard reboot? Or is there a safer,
> "softer" way out of this?
>
> I can't do anything that would jeopardize the drives, as one of them is my
> photo archive and the other is its backup. So sort of a nightmare scenario,
> with both copies of my archive involved.
>
> Help? Thanks!
>
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